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[Q] Why does android's standby time suck?

I've used around 5 Android phones (starting from 2.1 now up to 4.3) and for some reason, they all have a pathetic standby time. When I say standby, I mean when you press the power button and it turns the screen off and you don't touch it. Why is android the only OS that has this problem? WP, fine. IOS, probably the best one (only good thing about it).
I've tried different kernels, using no apps from the play store at all, turning off Google's location service, using greenify, and a bunch more. My battery still drops to ~70% at 4:00 starting at 100 at 7:00. When I briefly had an iphone and windows phone, I always was amazed at how my battery was around ~90-95% at 4:00. I know most people actually USE their phone during the day, so its probably not as noticeable.
Does anyone know the real reason for this? By real, I mean the deep down reason for this. Is java just a hog?

I think the main reason is the backround apps that are running. I used my old sensation just as a phone and so I deleted all the apps from it (Facebook, Viber etc.) and the phone lasted 5-6 days on standby with a 1 year old batery. Before I removed those apps I couldnt get 2 days on standby. I think backgrounfd apps in Android are allowed more "freedom" so they use up the CPU while on standby. That is my experience and opinion.

celelivada said:
I think the main reason is the backround apps that are running. I used my old sensation just as a phone and so I deleted all the apps from it (Facebook, Viber etc.) and the phone lasted 5-6 days on standby with a 1 year old batery. Before I removed those apps I couldnt get 2 days on standby. I think backgrounfd apps in Android are allowed more "freedom" so they use up the CPU while on standby. That is my experience and opinion.
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Yeah I thought that, but I said I tried it with no apps installed. Same thing.

Weird, I don't experience that kind of massive stand by drain.
If I turn my screen off or let it time out, my phone can sit for a almost a couple of days before it shuts down - sometimes two full days. This was true with my Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3, and now the One.
So I have no clue what you're talking about, generalizing Android like that.

i disagree
My battery drains 1% every six hours
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Weird, I don't experience that kind of massive stand by drain.
If I turn my screen off or let it time out, my phone can sit for a almost a couple of days before it shuts down - sometimes two full days. This was true with my Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3, and now the One.
So I have no clue what you're talking about, generalizing Android like that.
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I'm generalizing Android because I was talking about "Stock" android. Not what we do here. I really have to find a fix for this. I dont know what I'm doing wrong here.

Mine also has great standby time...
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aooga said:
I'm generalizing Android because I was talking about "Stock" android. Not what we do here. I really have to find a fix for this. I dont know what I'm doing wrong here.
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I am talking about stock Android as well. I have had great battery life with my last three phones.

I've had no such problems with "android" in general. Some roms / apps yes. But after fixing those issues it was pretty much what would have been expected / what reviewers/other people get.
I would recommend getting something like gsam battery monitor and let it run at least a day and then post some screenshots. Maybe we can give some concrete advice then.
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I'm very very happy to say that my very own HTC One is arriving today!!! I cannot wait to get my hands on it. I'm climbing the walls literally, much better size than the 5 invh dvtrrn. It's a 'prettier' design by far.
Any suggestions on what I should do firsrt? Perhapss some updates or upgrades?
All and any help is deeply appreciated

I would just spent time getting to know it before you start pulling it about, honestly this is the best out of the box mobile ive ever had, mine is still stock after nearly a year . The screen is awsome, terrific sound from the speakers, even blink feed is, in my opinion, a great fearure. The camera is ok probably the weakest feature on the phone but play arounds with it, but the Zoe feature is really awsome especially in combo with the video highlights. Get some NFC tags and play about with the NFC to.
Enjoy you One
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Guess what THIS is??? (and the WHEN is highlighted in red!
I'm very very happy to say that my very own HTC One is arriving today!!! I cannot wait to get my hands on it. I'm climbing the walls literally, much better size than the 5 invh dvtrrn. It's a 'prettier' design by far.
Any suggestions on what I should do firsrt? Perhapss some updates or upgrades?
All and any help is deeply appreciated
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Congrats, good choice! (Even you could have waited 8 more weeks for the new HTC One 2014).
Advices:
- unpack it and put it to charge (should be always started first time with full battery)
- start, follow instructions (you'll get there possibilities to import your old phones contacts, calendar, sms,...)
- Phone will come with Android 4.22 and sense 5.0, you'll get Upgrade notification (based on your location 4.3 or even already 4.42 each with Sense 5.5), do the upgrade! (Better performance, battery time, no more blinkfeed as homescreen)
- Make some pictures. Pictures have a violet/pink touch? Then you were lucky to pick up a unit with defective camera. Wrap up the device back and ask for another working one (probability is very low; but when the ONE was released almost every third or fourth customer had this problem)
- If your device is fine, just use it, explore the possibilities...
I get notifications on this thread, if you have questions just post them here and I'll try to answer them. Don't root too fast (HTC is in this point al little *****) and look if you can use the ONE without root and custom rom (I can, have my device since half a year and still completely stock; even launcher... Wasn't the point with any of my Samsung devices...)
Don't worry if your phone won't pass a whole day on one battery charge, it must first calibrate. The fourth charge or so you'll experience a much better battery performance
Sincerly
Snew

Amer28 said:
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I'm very very happy to say that my very own HTC One is arriving today!!! I cannot wait to get my hands on it. I'm climbing the walls literally, much better size than the 5 invh dvtrrn. It's a 'prettier' design by far.
Any suggestions on what I should do firsrt? Perhapss some updates or upgrades?
All and any help is deeply appreciated
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Before you do anything to the device, please read and make sure you understand what you are doing:angel:. If you gonna mod your phone then make a full nandroid backup before and make a copy to your computer:angel:. Also you should consider S-OFF you device if you are going to flash stuff, pretty much easier to back to stock with S-OFF if you screw something.:good:
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- unpack it and put it to charge (should be always started first time with full battery)
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BTW not true for newer devices like htc one. You can enjoy your device right out of the box, no need to wait until its fully charged.
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- Make some pictures. Pictures have a violet/pink touch? Then you were lucky to pick up a unit with defective camera. Wrap up the device back and ask for another working one (probability is very low; but when the ONE was released almost every third or fourth customer had this problem)
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This issue is caused by heating of the device so he will probably not be able to detect it ''out of the box'' imo.

strait out the box unlock it,, twrp it,,nandroid bk..up s.off ..supercid,,,,and then flash the hell out off it enjoy

[Q] Jelly like scrolling?

The Verge just published a review on the Droid Turbo and it says the phone has some kind jelly like scrolling. What do you guys think about it? Is it for real?
I can't post links here, so just search for "Motorola Droid Turbo review" on The Verge's website. They included a gif where you can see what I'm talking about.

I never noticed that on my Turbo.
Sent from my XT1095

I notice it, but it's a subtle effect. If you scroll lightly on a long list of things in the web browser, you might be able to see it.

Yea I have no doubt seen that in the store. Really bothered me.

Mine doesn't do anything like that. Wonder if it's because I switched to ART or if it's only on some devices.

Mine doesn't do that, I even tried it on their site like was in their video and smooth as silk.

Yes, mine does the same thing, though it's not nearly as bad as their example. I'm hoping I'll just get used to it.

Yeah, I returned my Turbo because of the issue. If it gets sorted out with updates I may take the plunge again, but until that time I'm out. There is another thread in the general section talking about the same issue. It's referred to as screen warping in that one.

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That's the gif from theverge's review. I haven't been able to recreate this on my device, I'd recommend asking for an exchanged unit if you see it on your Turbo.

Arkasai said:
That's the gif from theverge's review. I haven't been able to recreate this on my device, I'd recommend asking for an exchanged unit if you see it on your Turbo.
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Yep, that's how mine and all of the display models were. It was more obvious when scrolling though the xda app. Just try holding your finger on the screen, pull it down, and then go back up with it without picking up your finger. Maybe it only effected the first models but I haven't saw one that doesn't have the issue yet. :/ I would have kept it if it weren't for that issue.

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Yep, that's how mine and all of the display models were. It was more obvious when scrolling though the xda app. Just try holding your finger on the screen, pull it down, and then go back up with it without picking up your finger. Maybe it only effected the first models but I haven't saw one that doesn't have the issue yet. :/ I would have kept it if it weren't for that issue.
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I have a feeling it's a display driver issue, as some other 2560x1440 devices have had varying degrees of severity with this issue. Mine appears flawless in all apps and websites on Chrome, so you might have more luck in the future with a more recent shipment of units.

I have two turbos with a Sept 24th build date, 64gb nylon, both do not have the jelly scroll issue. Tried numerous apps, but I could replicate what I see in that GIF.

Arkasai said:
I have a feeling it's a display driver issue, as some other 2560x1440 devices have had varying degrees of severity with this issue. Mine appears flawless in all apps and websites on Chrome, so you might have more luck in the future with a more recent shipment of units.
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I hope you're right. I'm buying off contract so I would have to verify that the issue was fixed in person for me to take the plunge again. Like I said though, all of models that I have seen has it. It's been quite a few too.

I had this issue with my DROID that I bought about a week ago. Returned it since, it still had alot of kinks to work out.

My Turbo 32GB has an Oct 7 build date and I can't replicate that flaw on mine either.

I've noticed this at certain times on my Turbo. Honestly it's subtle to the point that I thought I was imagining it. At least for me personally it doesn't bother me at all. When I first saw it I actually wondered if it was intentional and thought it was kinda cool lol.

Can not replicate the gif. Tried and tried. Used chrome. Is that the browser everyone is using? I assume so since that's what the phone is shipped with. But you never know. I can see how that would be irritating

Just so we're all clear, what that gif is supposed to illustrate is the fact that when you scroll up and down things seem to expand and contract as you do so. Not the delay that appears to be in the gif, that is just part of the effect of the slow mo, all phones have that.
Every droid turbo I have seen has this effect. At this point I've seen it on about 15 phones. I've never seen a droid turbo that does not have it. It is most apparent on sites where there is a lot of color in blocks because it's easier for the eye to see the blocks expanding and contracting than with text
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Free mobile app

Anyone know of a good website or app to test for this scrolling effect?
Sent from my XT1254

I see it on my turbo, disabling animations in developer options doesn't do anything. I am not sure its even an animation effect, it may just be some lag in the scaler. Its not specific to a particular app, its throughout android. Hopefully they address it in the next update.

Did you Note ?

Anyone noticed the new game that came with the Lollipop ?
Long press on the lollipop
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Anyone noticed the new game that came with the Lollipop ?
Long press on the lollipop
Have fun [emoji6]
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LOL! Seriously?I think almost everyone on XDA knows that...but you made me laugh nonetheless hahaha

I hadn't seen any one talk about that here

Mod Edit: None of that

Ashatar said:
Mod Edit: None of that
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Thanks for insult

At end I hope that thread maybe to be helpful to some one

Everybody knows this already. Since the first build for the Nexus 5

Ashatar said:
LOL! Seriously?I think almost everyone on XDA knows that...but you made me laugh nonetheless hahaha
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I didn't know that. So I said "thanks" to the original poster. I liked that.
But I did NOT like your wrong and highly annoying full quoting and trying to make fun of people willing to contribute something nice. Not funny.

I agree with you, there is always some one who can benefitt, these forums are exactly for this purpose

Now we now what the Google devs consider priority (and are willing to spend time programming) when improving Android, and also why Lollipop is such a piece of crap.

Simonetti2011 said:
Now we now what the Google devs consider priority (and are willing to spend time programming) when improving Android, and also why Lollipop is such a piece of crap.
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As mentioned before this had been there since release LAST year. I don't see how this not being included would have changed your perception of what crap is. I'd ask but you would probably only list 1 or 2 things with any other listing still being a problem in KK.

This game is very addicting. I keep borrowing my dad's Nexus 5 just to play it.

airwa1kin7 said:
As mentioned before this had been there since release LAST year. I don't see how this not being included would have changed your perception of what crap is. I'd ask but you would probably only list 1 or 2 things with any other listing still being a problem in KK.
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I had several problems with LP not present in KK:
- bluetooth not working properly with car
- when the call screen is minimized, sometimes LP won´t end the call after pressing END
- loss of signal quality (much worse radio, might be related to the bluetooth problem)
- audio notifications at night used to be disabled in KK. Now, with LP, I have do turn wi-fi & 4G off at night so the phone won´t disturb me with notifications
- after 2-3 calls, I have to reboot the phone, because the call after that will be completely silent
Again, none of these problems existed before.

I didn't know this so thank you OP. I think the new feature that concerns me most is the addition of Interruptions to the notifications/sound profile. I like my alarm going off even know I put the phone on silent. :/

Qualcomm Security bugs.

Serious security flaws that could give attackers complete access to a phone's data have been found in software used on tens of millions of Android devices.
The bugs were uncovered by Checkpoint researchers looking at software running on chipsets made by US firm Qualcomm.
Qualcomm processors are found in about 900 million Android phones, the company said.
However, there is no evidence of the vulnerabilities currently being used in attacks by cyberthieves.
"I'm pretty sure you will see these vulnerabilities being used in the next three to four months," said Michael Shaulov, head of mobility product management at Checkpoint.
"It's always a race as to who finds the bug first, whether it's the good guys or the bad."
Affected devices included:
BlackBerry Priv and Dtek50
Blackphone 1 and Blackphone 2
Google Nexus 5X, Nexus 6 and Nexus 6P
HTC One, HTC M9 and HTC 10
LG G4, LG G5, and LG V10
New Moto X by Motorola
OnePlus One, OnePlus 2 and OnePlus 3
US versions of the Samsung Galaxy S7 and Samsung S7 Edge
Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Mr Shaulov said six months of work to reverse engineer Qualcomm's code revealed the problems.
The flaws were found in software that handles graphics and in code that controls communication between different processes running inside a phone.
Exploiting the bugs would allow an attacker to gradually be able to take more control over a device and gain access to its data.
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The flaws could be used to make booby-trapped apps that steadily gain access to a phone's data
Checkpoint handed information about the bugs and proof of concept code to Qualcomm earlier this year.
In response, Qualcomm is believed to have created patches for the bugs and started to use the fixed versions in its factories.
It has also distributed the patches to phone makers and operators. However, it is not clear how many of those companies have issued updates to customers' phones.
Checkpoint has created a free app called QuadRooter Scanner that can be used to check if a phone is vulnerable to any of the bugs, by looking to see if the patches for them have been downloaded and installed.
In addition, Mr Shaulov said Android owners should only download apps from the official Google Play store to avoid falling victim to malicious programs.
"People should call whoever sold them their phone, their operator or the manufacturer, and beg them for the patches," said Mr Shaulov.
Qualcomm has yet to respond to a request for comment.

Scary stuff - too bad Google can't just roll us out a patch for it

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Here's the result of this scan on a unrooted op3 running stock 3.2.2. so clearly over to one plus.
Source of the article http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37005226
Franes04 said:
Serious security flaws that could give attackers complete access to a phone's data have been found in software used on tens of millions of Android devices.
The bugs were uncovered by Checkpoint researchers looking at software running on chipsets made by US firm Qualcomm.
Qualcomm processors are found in about 900 million Android phones, the company said..
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tropicanapure said:
Here's the result of this scan on a unrooted op3 running stock 3.2.2. so clearly over to one plus.
Source of the article http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37005226
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I would've linked the source but I didn't have enough posts to add links. Thank you for sharing.

No worries, mate, Google has seen the issue and will release a security patch for it (2015-08-05), check here!
We can only hope OnePlus releases the security patch as soon as possible, or you can just hop on the custom ROM bandwagon since they often have the patch merged day one.