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Help! Kaiser to Dream?

I recently purchased a Kaiser, I have since unlocked and re-rommed. Now, I have the opportunity to virtually swap my Kaiser for a Rogers Dream.
The phone is a secondary phone that is being used as a basic phone for my wife. No data play will be added.
Here are my prerequisites:
1) The phone must be able to be sim-unlocked, to use in Europe.
2) It must be able to use a no data plan GPS program, currently have IGO8 on the Kaiser.
3) Must have wifi, decent camera, and a useable keyboard.
My Kaiser currently meets everything above, but is alitte big. Does anyone who has owned both have any insight on the comparison?
Please help, deadline is tomorrow.
Would you do it?
ps-Sorry mods, posted this in the xda/General thread, but no love. Thought this might be more appropriate.

A Rogers Dream is basically WORTHLESS.
Especially in europe since it uses 850/1900 MHz UMTS.
There is no currently known way to root the thing.

lbcoder said:
A Rogers Dream is basically WORTHLESS.
Especially in europe since it uses 850/1900 MHz UMTS.
There is no currently known way to root the thing.
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Thanks for the reply,
I thought the specs on the Dream are:
Cellular;Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
Cellular_Data;Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
Arent most 2G networks in Europe 900 / 1800 and or 1900?
That being said, even though it cannot be rooted yet, couldnt a purchased sim unlock code make this a viable choice?

AFAIK, all European networks use 900/1800 for GSM and 2100 for UMTS.
Hope this helps,

keithsipa said:
Thanks for the reply,
I thought the specs on the Dream are:
Cellular;Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
Cellular_Data;Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
Arent most 2G networks in Europe 900 / 1800 and or 1900?
That being said, even though it cannot be rooted yet, couldnt a purchased sim unlock code make this a viable choice?
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The rogers "robbers" version is CRIPPLED to their network frequencies. It will connect, but will definitely be limited to G2/EDGE.
And you don't want to go out making decisions based on what MIGHT be... eventually. There is currently no way to root the thing, so just assume that it will stay that way.
Robbers also uses CRIPPLED FIRMWARE -- stuck at 1.5 with no way to upgrade, and loaded with a ton of their bloat.
I *STRONGLY* suggest that you just pick up a local version.

lbcoder said:
The rogers "robbers" version is CRIPPLED to their network frequencies. It will connect, but will definitely be limited to G2/EDGE.
And you don't want to go out making decisions based on what MIGHT be... eventually. There is currently no way to root the thing, so just assume that it will stay that way.
Robbers also uses CRIPPLED FIRMWARE -- stuck at 1.5 with no way to upgrade, and loaded with a ton of their bloat.
I *STRONGLY* suggest that you just pick up a local version.
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Thanks for all of the help guys. I may pick one up to play with but keep my Kaiser for a while.
Cheers

different nexus one

Hello,
I am looking to buy a used nexus one... I have found some deals on line
BUT my only concern is: how can I differentiate between the two different versions of the phone? My carrier is FIDO and I have a data plan with them, so I want the phone that allows 3G speeds with FIDO.
I want to know how to differentiate between the two because many sellers online dont know the difference themselves since they dont have a data plan. I would rather avoid going through the trouble of meeting the person and testing my SIM in the phone. If there was anyway I could tell them to read something off the phone that tells the phone apart.?
As of March 16, 2010, there are two versions of the Nexus One. Both versions of the Nexus One cover most major GSM and 3G providers in the US, Europe and Asia. On both phones, the GSM radio frequencies covered are 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, and 1900 MHz. The original Nexus One also came along with UMTS frequency bands 1 (2100 MHz), 4 (1700 MHz), and 8 (900 MHz).[39], allowing it to access 3G throughout Europe, as well as on T-Mobile USA and WIND Mobile in Canada. The second version of the Nexus One supports UMTS frequency bands 1 (2100 MHz), 2 (1900 MHz), and 5 (850 MHz), allowing it to access 3G in most of Europe, as well as on AT&T Mobility in the USA and Rogers Wireless, Fido Solutions, Bell Mobility, and TELUS Mobility in Canada.
Thanks any help is appreciated.

For FIDO you' need At&t version of the phone.
Behind the battery:
FCC ID NM88PB99110 for Belus/Frogideros/AT&T version
FCC ID NM88PB99100 for AWS version
Courtesy of HowardForums.com

Mr ILIA said:
For FIDO you' need At&t version of the phone.
Behind the battery:
FCC ID NM88PB99110 for Belus/Frogideros/AT&T version
FCC ID NM88PB99100 for AWS version
Courtesy of HowardForums.com
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Hey thanks man. Thats exactly the kind of thing I was looking for.

aziz831 said:
Hello,
I am looking to buy a used nexus one... I have found some deals on line
BUT my only concern is: how can I differentiate between the two different versions of the phone? My carrier is FIDO and I have a data plan with them, so I want the phone that allows 3G speeds with FIDO.
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No, you dont.
You want the one that is only 2G with robbers.
The reason for this is that you will ultimately want to drop the ripoff and go with better phone service. No sense limiting yourself.
3G with robbers won't help you with anything except causing data overages. This will cost you horribly. 2G is a nice way to reduce/prevent data overages, and with robbers' data rates, this is pretty much MANDATORY.

lbcoder said:
No, you dont.
You want the one that is only 2G with robbers.
The reason for this is that you will ultimately want to drop the ripoff and go with better phone service. No sense limiting yourself.
3G with robbers won't help you with anything except causing data overages. This will cost you horribly. 2G is a nice way to reduce/prevent data overages, and with robbers' data rates, this is pretty much MANDATORY.
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Hey stupid, did you happen to read the original post saying he has a data plan and wants to use 3G?
OP: Don't listen to lbcoder, you clearly stated you wanted to keep your 3G data so the AT&T one pointed out by Mr ILIA is the right phone.

Yeah, he's clearly angry with the cell phones thugs in Canada. And I don't blame him, but I currently can't get a cheaper deal with Wind than what Fido/Rogers gives me. (For my usage.)
Here's hoping Wind is really a great success though, then it won't take people 5 hours on the phone to get a good deal anymore.
But if you do want an unlimited everything plan, and live in the few cities that Wind is in, and don't plan to travel to other cities in Canada often. Then seriously consider them when your time is up.

Taknarosh said:
Hey stupid, did you happen to read the original post saying he has a data plan and wants to use 3G?
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LOL!!! That's a style!

[Q] HTC Vivid on Tmobile 3G/4G?

Hi all,
I was wondering whether there would be any way to flash a custom modem or a ROM that would unlock the LTE bands so that the Vivid can access HSPA on Tmobile's network?
From what Ive read, the AT&T GS2 Skyrocket and the AT&T Galaxy Note have been unlocked through this method and Im not sure why the Vivid cant be since it shares much of the same specs between it and the Skyrocket & G-Note
Thanks

dante58 said:
Hi all,
I was wondering whether there would be any way to flash a custom modem or a ROM that would unlock the LTE bands so that the Vivid can access HSPA on Tmobile's network?
From what Ive read, the AT&T GS2 Skyrocket and the AT&T Galaxy Note have been unlocked through this method and Im not sure why the Vivid cant be since it shares much of the same specs between it and the Skyrocket & G-Note
Thanks
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No that isn't possible, tmobile and att have different bands. I know that you could use a sim card on the vivid, but you wouldn't get the same speed.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium

IIRC you can use a T-Mobile phone on ATT and get 2G but can't use ATT on TMO.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA

doktor buknasty said:
No that isn't possible, tmobile and att have different bands. I know that you could use a sim card on the vivid, but you wouldn't get the same speed.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium
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The LTE band can be used on Tmobile to get 4G download speeds. As visible here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507825
OP is asking if this is possible for the Vivid, need a Tmobile radio to flash. Would be great if someone could work on it.

twolves14 said:
The LTE band can be used on Tmobile to get 4G download speeds. As visible here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507825
OP is asking if this is possible for the Vivid, need a Tmobile radio to flash. Would be great if someone could work on it.
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No. The LTE Band will never work on T-Mobile's GSM. What allows the Note and Skyrocket to work is that they have the pentaband hardware GSM modem and flashing a different software modem enables access to those frequencies on GSM.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium

dante58 said:
I was wondering whether there would be any way to flash a custom modem or a ROM that would unlock the LTE bands so that the Vivid can access HSPA on Tmobile's network?
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twolves14 said:
The LTE band can be used on Tmobile to get 4G download speeds. As visible here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507825
OP is asking if this is possible for the Vivid, need a Tmobile radio to flash. Would be great if someone could work on it.
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Uh yeah, it's going to be hard to get the LTE bands on the LTE radio on the phone to pick up UMTS/HSPA signal.
There's a reason why phones are usually advertised like:
GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/HSPA 850/1900/2100MHz
LTE AWS700MHz
They kiiiinda aren't interoperable. Note how you can't connect to UMTS 900MHz or use a Telstra LTE phone and get 1800MHz 2G service if the phone doesn't have that band in its 2G spectrum.
I remember reading about the pentaband radios having UMTS/HSPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz. That's still pretty different than your standard quad-band GSM radio.

It is absolutely possible...given that the specs on GSM Arena and Phonescoop are right...
700 MHz Class 17, 1700/2100 MHz
It has the correct pair for Tmobile.
The only thing is whether or not you can flash the radio with a Tmobile equivalent (Amaze?) radio.
What happened to all the hardware hackers on this forum? It seems as if no one knows ANYthing about the interworkings of a network anymore.
Anyhow, the phone having the bands and knowing what to do with them are 2 different things. For example. Stereo FM 101.9 Mhz vs. HD(Digital)-FM 101.9...they're both on the same band/frequency but are utilized differently...
The signals are still transmitted on the same frequency, however the radio itself doesn't know how to decode/interpret the HD (Digital) signal...unless it is told how to do so.
The only place that this analogy differs is when it comes to actual comparison of FM receivers and Cellular phones. With FM receivers it actually requires a decoder to understand the digital signal being broadcasted...Cellular however just needs to be flashed and voila, you've got HSPA...
So. Yes. It is %100 possible.

NO NO NO NO.
LTE bands do NOT equal GSM. Not going to happen. They are physically different receivers for lack of a better phrase. There is no way to do this without physically changing hardware. Also, you realize T-Mobile's "1700" frequency does not actually mean 1700 on the dot. They use a different subset of actual radio bands than AT&T's 1700 LTE. As in 1721-1727 or some such vs 1781-1793 or something. I don't know the actual frequencies, but you get the drift.
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

It is absolutely possible. No question about it.

Then do it. For one, there is no compatible modem to flash. Two, it isn't possible.
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Hand is hitting my face so hard right now.
RavenII, if it's so possible, then why don't you do it? If you can't, give a large donation to one of our developers and tell them to do it.
I, and many others here are blatantly telling you it's not possible for clear reasons.
The Galaxy Nexus has a PENTABAND UMTS/HSPA "3G" radio. 850/900/1700/1900/2100. That's why it can access TMobile's 3G and faux-G. We here, on the HTC Holiday, have a tri-band 3G radio.
DIRECTLY from your sources at GSM ARENA and PHONESCOOP. I've added HTC.com for good measure:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LTE 700 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
LTE (AWS/700), HSPA+/UMTS Tri-band (850/1900/2100MHz), and tri-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900MHz)
What? I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the fact that "3G network/WCDMA/HSPA+/UMTS" doesn't have 1700MHz. Oh wait, I couldn't hear you over the fact that TMobile's faux-G is not based on LTE, nor is it 4G (big hint: it's 3G HSPA-based service ).
GSM Arena and Phonescoop also do not account for the of LTE bands supported by the Vivid. Each region of the Holiday pretty much only supports the LTE band in that region. Rogers and ATT only supports AWS700, Telstra only supports 1800, etc.

I'm glad I'm not the only one to retain my senses about this. Leave it to a fellow Saab fan to explain it correctly.
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Ok...I really didn't want to do this since I HATE spoon feeding people on forums...but here goes. And try to keep up because I'm only going to dumb it down so much.
What you guys are mistaking for "Bands"...really ARE NOT BANDS....there is NO SUCH THING as an LTE band...or HSPA+ band...
There are Network types ...LTE, HSPA+, -Insert other modulation/channeling scheme here-, etc.
There are Frequencies (which are actually specific ranges but for the sake of confusion, they're referred to as the following 700, 800, 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100...etc.) By the way...all those frequencies fall under the UHF band...
So far we've established that there are Network types...and different frequencies...are you still with me? Any questions?
Ok, onward.
There exists something called an SDR or Software Defined Rado...it has the ability to receive and transmit on certain frequencies...It's the software that defines how much of that frequency to use per channel (1Mhz, 25khz, etc.), what range of frequencies to use, how to use them, how much power to use while transmitting, among MANY other things (what frequency to send on, which to receive on, etc.)...That's how they came up with "Software defined radio"
If you look at the Product Brief for the MSM8X60/APQ8060 you should notice all of the frequencies that these specific chips support...
I really don't want to lose you guys, still following?
You might notice that the APQ8060 doesn't have a WWAN modem...but what does THAT mean? It means that it needs something like ohhhhh let's say the MDM9200...FINE! Here's one more spoon full
Reader to me: But RavenII...you're being a condescending ****, and we still don't know what the hell your point is...you're spewing all this **** like you're some know it all...
Me to Reader: There there grasshopper. I will get straight to it...
With all of the information I've given you...you should be able to see that when you see something like "LTE (AWS/700), HSPA+/UMTS Tri-band (850/1900/2100MHz), and tri-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900MHz)"...it means the radio is...
Being told to use LTE Standards (modulation, channeling, frequency steps, etc.) on AWS/700 (which if they're using AWS to signify Band IV...it would in turn mean 1700/2100), HSPA+/UMTS Standards on 850/1900/2100MHz...etc.
Still reading?
When I say that it is %100 possible...I'm saying that with software or "flashing the radio"...you can effectively change/tell what the chip should do (in this case either an MSM or MDM) with the frequencies it's capable of transmitting/receiving on. That's it.
Aus_Azn: I really hope you didn't leave a hand print on your face...
Thank you, good night.
One last thought: I never said that I would do it, I said that it's possible...

Here's the real simple way to explain it: it is theoretically possible to do but no one outside of HTC has the skill or proprietary code to do it.
So for all intents and purposes, impossible. It will not now nor ever happen.
Also, while the chip may support all bands from the factory that initially fabricated the chip, it may be locked at a firmware level (not a software radio, but actual ROM on the physical chip) that a software based radio cannot affect. This is why you can't just flash a T-Mobile software radio on another AT&T s-off device and have it work. The physical chip itself DOES NOT SUPPORT THE FREQUENCY NEEDED due to changed firmware configuration.
Is that condescending enough for you?
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

Let's see, how can I put this...You're still wrong. It's still possible.
I don't even own a Vivid so I'm no longer going to post to this thread...but I will tell you this...everyone once told me that blackberrys could not have data without having the BIS (Blackberry specific plan)...and guess what. I'M the reason that people are hacking them away. I was the first one to figure it out and prove everyone wrong. While I don't have a phone that I need to convert for T-Mobile, you can bet, that once there's a phone that I want to use on T-Mobile's network...I'll more than likely find a way.
Farewell.

@totally off topic
RavenII I think you're going on the right track here. I'm already convinced by what your saying.
peaceout

What RavenII is saying does have a good base logically because it has been done before for a very similar set of hardware to the raider. The ATT Galaxy S2 Skyrocket and the ATT Note LTE are both phones featuring very similar processor and modem as the Raider. The APQ8060 and MDM9200 (i think).
Samsung released devices with this modem running on all sorts of bands 1700, 850, 1900, 2100 and even LTE on 1700 and 700.
The ATT Versions of the devices do not feature UMTS in AWS range however people have simply flashed the modem from the T-Mobile version of the device which doesn't have LTE and the ATT LTE devices actually started working on UMTS AWS bands. Various modems give various degrees of success but it is possible and has been confirmed many many times over.
Here is the thread for the ATT Skyrocket. You will find people doing the same thing on ATT Galaxy Note LTE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507825

You guys are funny, now I can't wait to get my Vivid which I just received today running on T-Mobiles "4g". The funny thing about this is when i very first started reading this thread and saw Mr. buknastys' reply, I was thinking "That is absolutely not true". Now I'm not going to go into detail or try and prove any points, as Raven has done a perfectly fine job proving his point and answering the OPs question. Bottom line; the two readers are absolutely wrong and Raven is absolutely right. Also one last thing, I love how suddenly a firmware "lock" is something of an obstacle, yet we have gained S-Off on nearly every HTC bootloader out there. Just sayin..

motoxxx138 said:
You guys are funny, now I can't wait to get my Vivid which I just received today running on T-Mobiles "4g". The funny thing about this is when i very first started reading this thread and saw Mr. buknastys' reply, I was thinking "That is absolutely not true". Now I'm not going to go into detail or try and prove any points, as Raven has done a perfectly fine job proving his point and answering the OPs question. Bottom line; the two readers are absolutely wrong and Raven is absolutely right. Also one last thing, I love how suddenly a firmware "lock" is something of an obstacle, yet we have gained S-Off on nearly every HTC bootloader out there. Just sayin..
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I really didn't mean to come off as a **** in this thread, but it seems as if though people have forgotten about actual hacking and everything has moved to "Supercharging" and theming...it's saddening, I come from a time where there was no such thing as impossible.
...I encourage you to try, but do so with a lot of caution...because the fact of the matter is...you can brick your device...
Happy hacking.

THANK YOU!!!
RavenII said:
I really didn't mean to come off as a **** in this thread, but it seems as if though people have forgotten about actual hacking and everything has moved to "Supercharging" and theming...it's saddening, I come from a time where there was no such thing as impossible.
...I encourage you to try, but do so with a lot of caution...because the fact of the matter is...you can brick your device...
Happy hacking.
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I would just like to say thank you to Raven as I now have a AT&T Vivid and have successfully placed it on the T-mobile 3G network working 100% of the time. I will be putting together a full tutorial on how to do this shortly as it was indeed a challenge. I have been reading these forums for awhile and Raven your post has by far been one of the most beneficial and inspiring ones...thanks for sticking it out on these forums...few do these days. I actually just joined this forum after months of reading because of this post. I figure i too will provide feedback. I am actually a Tech Manager w/ Sprint. I work on these things everyday in other words....hints why I actually have a T-mobile phone lol. Not saying T-mobile is the best but you at least get exactly what you pay for and they are honest about coverage haha. Anyways..back on topic...the HTC Vivid is an interesting phone to root even and get the S-off. It is needed in order to get the sim unlocked. You have to do a combo of the rooting kit "Vivid_All_in_One_kit_v2.2" posted on another section and the "ControlBearRelease_holiday_ICS_WIN" (if your running Win 7). After you do what they call the "wire trick" (basically short the sim reader temporarily to allow temp access to flash) you can get the sim lock off. After that it is simple trial and error with modem flashes from various tmobile devices onto the HTC Vivid to get the 3G up and going. Mine actually kicked on with the AT&T radio flashed at first but I only had coverage in certain areas. Basicly it will depend alot on your local towers. Believe it or not...ALL CELL TOWERS ARE LEASED FROM VARIOUS COMPANIES LIKE SONY ERICSON WHICH MAINTAIN THEM ALL ALMOST!!...therefore it is very dependent on the towers in your area which radios are likely to work if not the stock modem on the device. It depends on what lease and roaming agreements are in place in your region....again...I WORK ON PHONES EVERYDAY FOR SPRINT...know a little about all that stuff...trust me...i have people yelling everyday about not having this or that when most of it is the carrier hasnt signed an agreement with Kyocera or whom ever to support that device or the lease contract has expired and will be resigned in a few days....bottom line is ....if the phone has a radio chipset that supports multibands and frequencies it is almost always possible to do what ever you would like with it. As far as firmware lock....too funny...those do not work on Android devices as the chipsets were intentionally designed to be unviersal to all carriers to cut manufacturing costs...much like in automotives where Mazdas and Fords use the same parts...just a reference. Anywho....It really is possible...it just takes research and a TON of time sometimes but that is the point of hacking....most would have said the Xbox Kinect wouldnt have been able to been hacked or the Wii remote seeing as both those use internal chips that range in the thousands if sold for other purposes. Long story short....happy hacking and Thanks to all of you for a great discussion forum.

64gb Developer Edition in UK Network Mode possible Bug

Hi Community
I think this is a bug with the Network Mode
I’ve run numerous tests to come to this conclusion but I cant figure out how to fix it
For the Dev Edition
The bands stated on the US website are
• HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
• GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
• LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)“
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html stated these bands for the uk
United Kingdom 900/1800 (3G) 2100
So this handset should cover all UK bands expect but LTE (I'm cool with that)
The Network Mode options are
WCDMA only , GSM only , GSM/WCDMA auto, GSM/WCDMA LTE auto ,
When the phone is set to
WCDMA only: 3G and HSPA (H) connections work perfect But the 2G signal is very weak and drops out almost completely
When the phone is set to GSM/WCDMA auto it’s constantly set to GPRS(G) when there is a perfect 3G and HSPA signal available. But the 2G signal is perfect
This also option causes the phone to overheat and battery drain maybe because its trying to switch but fails to do this
The Power History shows that the drain is coming from the Mobile Network Signal
This phone should operate as normal GSM + HSPA (fall back to 3G)
The GSM/WCDMA auto isn’t allowing 2G signal and HSPA to work together
Should this should be a software fix for this Global handset ????
Thanks guys

I had this back from HTC
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Thank you for contacting HTC regarding mobil network conection bug.
HTC is an innovative company and appreciate any feedback from their customers. Your comments have been forwarded to the appropriate department for review.
Please contact us again if you have any further feedback.
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
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Sincerely,
Espen
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Do they say this to shut you up ?

unque1 said:
I had this back from HTC
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Thank you for contacting HTC regarding mobil network conection bug.
HTC is an innovative company and appreciate any feedback from their customers. Your comments have been forwarded to the appropriate department for review.
Please contact us again if you have any further feedback.
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
To send a reply to this message, please click here.
Sincerely,
Espen
"
Do they say this to shut you up ?
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ROFL for a second I thought you were playing out to be a HTC representative trolling the OP
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

Greetings!
Could you please keep us up-to-date should HTC offer a real reply/solution?
I'm on the verge of ordering a Developer Edition for myself (Belgium) so I would be using the same network frequencies as you are.
I can't seem to find others from Western EU who are using the Dev Ed and are posting about it, which makes it quite hard to gather intel, even whilst scouring the forums for hours on end...
This sounds like a possible dealbreaker, but I want one -badly- .
Thanks in advance!
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda app-developers app

LSS_Ghost said:
Greetings!
Could you please keep us up-to-date should HTC offer a real reply/solution?
I'm on the verge of ordering a Developer Edition for myself (Belgium) so I would be using the same network frequencies as you are.
I can't seem to find others from Western EU who are using the Dev Ed and are posting about it, which makes it quite hard to gather intel, even whilst scouring the forums for hours on end...
This sounds like a possible dealbreaker, but I want one -badly- .
Thanks in advance!
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda app-developers app
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Deal breaker indeed
I will try to keep you posted but I doubt HTC will acknowledge this bug
what I'm going to do is open a ticket weekly till I hear something back as the handset is performing as it should
I know another user on her facing the same issues

Freq Band Setting
unque1 said:
I had this back from HTC
"
Thank you for contacting HTC regarding mobil network conection bug.
HTC is an innovative company and appreciate any feedback from their customers. Your comments have been forwarded to the appropriate department for review.
Please contact us again if you have any further feedback.
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
To send a reply to this message, please click here.
Sincerely,
Espen
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Do they say this to shut you up ?
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unque1 said:
Hi Community
I think this is a bug with the Network Mode
I’ve run numerous tests to come to this conclusion but I cant figure out how to fix it
For the Dev Edition
The bands stated on the US website are
• HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
• GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
• LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)“
stated these bands for the uk
United Kingdom 900/1800 (3G) 2100
So this handset should cover all UK bands expect but LTE (I'm cool with that)
The Network Mode options are
WCDMA only , GSM only , GSM/WCDMA auto, GSM/WCDMA LTE auto ,
When the phone is set to
WCDMA only: 3G and HSPA (H) connections work perfect But the 2G signal is very weak and drops out almost completely
When the phone is set to GSM/WCDMA auto it’s constantly set to GPRS(G) when there is a perfect 3G and HSPA signal available. But the 2G signal is perfect
This also option causes the phone to overheat and battery drain maybe because its trying to switch but fails to do this
The Power History shows that the drain is coming from the Mobile Network Signal
This phone should operate as normal GSM + HSPA (fall back to 3G)
The GSM/WCDMA auto isn’t allowing 2G signal and HSPA to work together
Should this should be a software fix for this Global handset ????
Thanks guys
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Hello Gents!
Maybe you guys might be able to help me. I recently bought HTC One Dev Edition from the US. My question is very simple I live here in china
and i was not sure if the band frequency would let me use 3G here in china. is it possible and would it also work on UMTS 3G? If it does how do i change it to that band? I would appreciate ur help.
here is my phones Frequencies
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)

@op What network are you using? it may be trying to use the 900mhz band in GSM/WDCMA mode, which is why its not working for you

Hmmm no overlap ?
IINexusII said:
@op What network are you using? it may be trying to use the 900mhz band in GSM/WDCMA mode, which is why its not working for you
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Why would this matter, if you don't mind me asking ?
The specs of the Dev Ed phone state a GSM band range of 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, and none of the other operation modes are piggy-backing on this frequency.
So if his network uses any or all of these frequencies, why would the phone have any issues with that while in combined (GSM/WCDMA auto) mode?
Kind regards,
Ghost.

LSS_Ghost said:
Why would this matter, if you don't mind me asking ?
The specs of the Dev Ed phone state a GSM band range of 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, and none of the other operation modes are piggy-backing on this frequency.
So if his network uses any or all of these frequencies, why would the phone have any issues with that while in combined (GSM/WCDMA auto) mode?
Kind regards,
Ghost.
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because some networks in the UK use 900mhz for 3G, which the dev edition does not have

Woops
IINexusII said:
because some networks in the UK use 900mhz for 3G, which the dev edition does not have
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Sorry, didn't know that.
Thanks

LSS_Ghost said:
Sorry, didn't know that.
Thanks
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i wouldnt bother getting the dev edition to be honest without LTE and and full 3g bands you'd rather buy a Nexus 4
how much do they cost btw (full price including customs duty)?

Well, since I live in a top 3 rip-off capital of the world, it would cost me approximately:
USD:
650 base price
136 import tax (21%)
110 shipping
30-ish bureaucratic import tax
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900 usd approx
Now believe me when I say, this is still cheaper than me buying the EU 32GB one in any local store.
Especially since I hope to evade the shipping cost by using a friend.
I'm keen on the One Dev, and I've been a huge fan of HTC phones ever since I got wind of them.
Anyways, we'll see...
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda app-developers app

Two more questions...
@OP:
unque1 said:
Deal breaker indeed
I will try to keep you posted but I doubt HTC will acknowledge this bug
what I'm going to do is open a ticket weekly till I hear something back as the handset is performing as it should
I know another user on her facing the same issues
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After re-reading your post, I came up with two more questions:
1. We are not alone... ?
Would you mind telling us where the other user is from ?
If not by country, then perhaps by operating frequencies.
2. HTC Tickets
Has your latest HTC ticket perchance resulted in a descent reply yet ?
Or are they being silent / beating around the bush ?
Kind regards,
Ghost.

[Q] Local carrier has one phone using LTE, am I able to utilize it with the One?

Hello everyone,
I have a question I am hoping can be answered.
I used to own an HTC Dinc with that device I was able to watch YouTube no problem, however I can't watch any videos at all with this new phone.
I am thinking it's just slow connectivity*this is prolly it* but what's so different with my old phone to this?
My local carrier sells this particular model so I bought it second hand, it's a great device don't get me wrong but this one thing is killing it for me.
Is there a way to bring it back to the carrier and have them set it up to use the data like on my Dinc or am I just stuck with crappy connection?
Now with that all said, my local carrier markets 4G LTE but it has only one device which is an LG AS840, I actually asked if I can implement this to my One. They said they can't, I am wondering why wouldn't it work? Is it because the frequencies don't correspond with each other? Or am I missing something entirely?
All I want to do is be able to watch videos when I am not using WiFi*no internet at home atm, I have WiFi at work though*.
Another thing to add as well is, my girlfriend has an S3 which is AT&T branded, well to say it frankly her phone has much better connection than my One. I am also wondering about SIM unlocking, if I SIM unlock will I be able to use a SIM card from her carrier? Currently the carrier she uses is DoCoMo Pacific which uses AT&T branded devices while mine uses Sprint.
If anyone can enlighten me on this subject or even shoot down all my hopes I would appreciate it!!

v1ral said:
Hello everyone,
I have a question I am hoping can be answered.
I used to own an HTC Dinc with that device I was able to watch YouTube no problem, however I can't watch any videos at all with this new phone.
I am thinking it's just slow connectivity*this is prolly it* but what's so different with my old phone to this?
My local carrier sells this particular model so I bought it second hand, it's a great device don't get me wrong but this one thing is killing it for me.
Is there a way to bring it back to the carrier and have them set it up to use the data like on my Dinc or am I just stuck with crappy connection?
Now with that all said, my local carrier markets 4G LTE but it has only one device which is an LG AS840, I actually asked if I can implement this to my One. They said they can't, I am wondering why wouldn't it work? Is it because the frequencies don't correspond with each other? Or am I missing something entirely?
All I want to do is be able to watch videos when I am not using WiFi*no internet at home atm, I have WiFi at work though*.
Another thing to add as well is, my girlfriend has an S3 which is AT&T branded, well to say it frankly her phone has much better connection than my One. I am also wondering about SIM unlocking, if I SIM unlock will I be able to use a SIM card from her carrier? Currently the carrier she uses is DoCoMo Pacific which uses AT&T branded devices while mine uses Sprint.
If anyone can enlighten me on this subject or even shoot down all my hopes I would appreciate it!!
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Who is your carrier, specifically? If your girlfriend is on DoCoMo Pacific, I’m guessing you live in Guam. The Sprint One can only use LTE on the 1900 MHz G-block (Band 25). Currently, I believe that Sprint is the only carrier in the world that uses that frequency/block, meaning the Sprint One will only be able to use Sprint’s LTE network. Since this is part of the physical design of the radio/antenna, it cannot be changed.
Here is the full list of frequencies that the Sprint One can access:
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/HSPA: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA: 800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE: Sprint: 1900 MHz
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In order to access the UMTS/HSPA bands, you would have to SIM-unlock. You would have to find out if there’s a carrier in Guam that transmits on those 3G frequencies (1900/2100 MHz) if you want to do things like stream video because the 2G/2.5G is very likely not fast enough.

subhumanderelict said:
Who is your carrier, specifically? If your girlfriend is on DoCoMo Pacific, I’m guessing you live in Guam. The Sprint One can only use LTE on the 1900 MHz G-block (Band 25). Currently, I believe that Sprint is the only carrier in the world that uses that frequency/block, meaning the Sprint One will only be able to use Sprint’s LTE network. Since this is part of the physical design of the radio/antenna, it cannot be changed.
Here is the full list of frequencies that the Sprint One can access:
(Source)
In order to access the UMTS/HSPA bands, you would have to SIM-unlock. You would have to find out if there’s a carrier in Guam that transmits on those 3G frequencies (1900/2100 MHz) if you want to do things like stream video because the 2G/2.5G is very likely not fast enough.
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My carrier is IT&E.
So doing a SIM unlock will help me at least switch to a different carrier, I was actually thinking about doing it just to switch. But as I was reading the various SIM unlock threads here, it's still pretty sketchy.
How about that LG AS840 using LTE on my carrier, or should I throw that thought out the window?
I will look around and see what kind of prices the carrier's offer, I dont want to be on contract so maybe prepaid is the way to go*I'm actually off contract but still pay my contracted amount.
This device is exceptional but the data speeds here locally suck.