This may be a stupid question, but I am curious if the differences between the i9000 and i500 are so great that i9000 ROMs won't even run on i500 hardware. My i500 (Fascinate) is used as a media device and GPS for running/biking. The Fascinate community is stale and I'm curious about playing with other ROMs. I was hoping that the only significant difference was the radio/modem. In which case, I would assume that the ROM would work, but 3G/data would be out of the question (as it already is -- being an inactive device).
Any clarification on this would be appreciated.
Zieen said:
Any clarification on this would be appreciated.
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view this But what happens is, such units are branded to certain phone company's , as such only those branded ROMs meant for that unit will function
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Thats the question.
I have been reading their forum and tweets... and all i see is Vibrant here, Vibrant there... nothing for i9000?
vibrant is i9000
unless you are refering to the USA version of vibrant which is SGH-T959
AllGamer said:
vibrant is i9000
unless you are refering to the USA version of vibrant which is SGH-T959
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I'm sure for the purposes of the forums people refer to the us model as the vibrant the european model as the i9000 and the canadian vibrant model as i9000m... I read that somewhere in one of the sticky's. Therefore assume he would be talking about the european i9000
The Vibrant isn't exactly the same as the international I9000 (and is, in fact, an SGH T959). However, they are both Galaxy S series phones, and are both GSM. They have far more similarities than differences.
Once CyanogenMod is available for the Vibrant, I have little doubt that it will be ported to the international i9000 and the Captivate, at least.
i mean the european GT-I9000
Cyanogen mod is coming, you can see them talking about it being ported on their forums now, and iirc the dev said that they are working on it.
If you know what you are doing you can even make your own version of it now (mind you its not fully functional and buggy)
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Cyanogen mod is coming, you can see them talking about it being ported on their forums now, and iirc the dev said that they are working on it.
If you know what you are doing you can even make your own version of it now (mind you its not fully functional and buggy)
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There was recently a tweet from one of the main devs working on Cyanogen for Galaxy S saying that his work was only for the Vibrant model... So perhaps international users have to wait longer for a port once the vibrant version is released
Yes, the international/European i9000 is what I was talking about. You won't be able to directly install the Vibrant CM6 ROM, but I don't think it will take much to port it. These phones are very similar indeed.
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There was recently a tweet from one of the main devs working on Cyanogen for Galaxy S saying that his work was only for the Vibrant model... So perhaps international users have to wait longer for a port once the vibrant version is released
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I imagine that this would be because that particular dev only has a Vibrant to work on, and so that is where he can best do his work for the time being. Since the cyanogen guys have to work across a lot of different phones and don't turn much of a profit, I wouldn't say it is unreasonable to see an individual dev only pick up one SGS varient.
However, the vibrant is DEEPLY similar to the euro SGS, and I can't see why a Vibrant ROM would be so dissimilar to a euro ROM as to require anything more than testing and tweaking.
Basically, don't worry. I bet ya a pound to a penny that they will put out a full set of SGS ROMs rather than doing it piecemeal.
Hi all...
I dont even know how this will work but I wanted to see if there are any devs here that could and are interested in making specific roms for the i9000M for us Canadians?
I would be willing to pay a bounty and im sure others would be willing to pitch in as well for something made with the i9000M specific kernal (and other works) to help us poor Canadians from bricking our devices when we seem to flash to international firmware.
I have come to the conclusion that there must be something different in our devices which is causing all the havok of dead sd cards etc. Perhaps I am wrong but from the polls it seems that the most dead sd cards are due to the lagfix and flashing new roms.
Anyone have an opinion? Anyone willing to try?
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I would be willing to bounty for this aswell i've been monkeying around trying to get things to work.
The only big difference i think is that our band for cell network is different.
Viper717 said:
I would be willing to bounty for this aswell i've been monkeying around trying to get things to work.
The only big difference i think is that our band for cell network is different.
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Well thats 2 of us... Come on people. If we get enough interest we could maybe get some good Canadian goodies for our SGS!!!
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What's wrong ruth the Doc/kalpik roms? Many of us i9000m owners are using them without issue
GT-i9000m on Doc/kalpik v 6
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What's wrong ruth the Doc/kalpik roms? Many of us i9000m owners are using them without issue
GT-i9000m on Doc/kalpik v 6
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I dont know much about those roms at all but i do know that lits of us Canadians that flash international firmware, mods, etc end up with a corrupt internal sd card and i think if there were some roms made with i9000m specific software that it would be safer to flash.
Like I said in the original post... I may be wrong but it would be nice to see...
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Is no one interested in this at all? Hmmm... Perhaps once Canada gets the official FROYO update then maybe?
Are there any experts / devs that can confirm or deny that the i9000M is the exact same as the international i9000?
i am interested in this as i am i9000m user who has bricked his phone with jpm. however, i did voice my opinion before and got people bashing me and saying the hardware is identical between the international i9000's and our i9000m. so i don't think you'll get much love for us, especially considering we represent a small portion of the sgs owners. i had suggested that if the hardware IS identical, and obviously the firmware is identical (if we're both flashing jpm/o), then all that is left is the bootloaders, or something else that isn't flashed with the firmware. but no one is interested, so i dunno. i was thinking maybe dumping the bml1-9 and comparing with that of an international phone, but i don't have the intellect to understand the differences. personally, i think we're boned.
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What's wrong ruth the Doc/kalpik roms? Many of us i9000m owners are using them without issue
GT-i9000m on Doc/kalpik v 6
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+1
Working great here....
Sent from a Bell I9000m running Froyo.
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Is no one interested in this at all? Hmmm... Perhaps once Canada gets the official FROYO update then maybe?
Are there any experts / devs that can confirm or deny that the i9000M is the exact same as the international i9000?
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AFIK the m is exactly the same other than the actual modem hardware. In respect to the polls, the m is at about a 28% failure and the international is at 14%. Too close imo to say that the m troubled.
The only thing the m really needs is a froyo modem file. The rest is working great. If froyo never came out for the m I would be just fine.
Flash through clockwork as it seems to be less harsh and limit your odin use.
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My real question is how do we flash one of these roms without losing our cell signal? I've flashed a rom previously and my phone would not connect back to the bell network at all. Took me a little while to figure out how-to odin back the stock modem file which in turn fixed it for me
This might be a silly question but why are ROM developers basing ROMs off of anything other than a Captivate ROM? Are there fixes in the i9000 or the Vibrant based ROMs that the Captivates don't have? Easier to piggy back someone else's work for one of the other ROMs? Major short comings in the Cappy ROM?
I really don't care one way or another, was just curious as to why it was.
Newer, less buggy, final Galaxy S Froyo builds are available for the i9000 and they don't include ATT bloat and restrictions (HSUPA, sideloading, tethering). Once we get an official Froyo release with kernel sources, I suspect we will see some ROMs based off of that, but devs will still have to endure the pain in the ass of undoing ATT bloat and restrictions.
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This might be a silly question but why are ROM developers basing ROMs off of anything other than a Captivate ROM? Are there fixes in the i9000 or the Vibrant based ROMs that the Captivates don't have? Easier to piggy back someone else's work for one of the other ROMs? Major short comings in the Cappy ROM?
I really don't care one way or another, was just curious as to why it was.
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Until now all i9000 roms I have tried are faster and smoother than Captive based ones so that is why I go with them.
Please post this in the Q&A section...this is only for development.
Moved to Q&A.
Could probably sum up the answer to this post as "newer, better stuff"
It's closer to what Android ought to be. For example, theres a check box for Unknown Sources in Settings. There's HUSPA. The ROM is faster. Theres a plethora of i9000 mods, hacks, kernels, etc. to be ported over.
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Thanks for the responses guys, that's what I was looking for.
Apologies for starting in the wrong forum.
This Is The Vendor File From UGKG3 Bell's Vibrant, If You Need Anything More Let Me Know... I Figured Its Possible Being A North America Rom
http://www.mediafire.com/?nu6rx2n4lbp5iq4
I Dont Know Anything About Gps, If It Work Good But If It Doesn't Kill Thread...
This might do it... certainly hope so
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UnderGroundKingGinger
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i think this will help quite alot
I'll take a look at it and see if there's anything usable for my CM7 fix. But I'm guessing this was pulled from a TouchWiz ROM? From what I can tell at first glance, CM7's gps does not use a lot of the stuff found in the rar you posted. Maybe some stuff can be integrated into CM7 directly, but I don't know enough to incorporate it into a fix after the fact.
Maybe someone else can help take a look, but AFAIK I can't use most of this.
Hopefully it'll help out TW-based ROMs.
aosp 4g rom for sprint that has source http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...urce-code-before-the-phone-even-hits-shelves/ might have something there for, might not. Phone is kinda galaxy s ish
I'd hate to break it to you but, the virgin mobile and the bell vibrant are simply rebranded i9000's using these files would be like using i9000 gps files. We wont be able to get 100% fast and accurate gps until our vibrant (sgh-t959) gets its own leak, if it even exists. We won't ne able to get gps with files from even phones that look identical to our phones (t959d) because of their radio bands. Our vibrants are the only galaxy s models (other than the t959V) that get 3G signals on 1700mhz bands. I think to have the 1700 bands, it requires a slightly different hardware radio, this slight difference allows the i9000 gingerbread gps (from jellete) to work but leaves all other files from the i9000 unusable on 2.3.
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I'd hate to break it to you but, the virgin mobile and the bell vibrant are simply rebranded i9000's using these files would be like using i9000 gps files. We wont be able to get 100% fast and accurate gps until our vibrant (sgh-t959) gets its own leak, if it even exists.
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I also hate to be negative here but it may be that the T-959 is no longer being supported (evidence being that Sam firmwares source only seen the froyo update in the system)
I think that the obly way we will see a spot on GPS is if someone takes the time to hack, crack, and reverse engineer the files we do have and try to figure out where certain things go.
Maybe ... just maybe since cyanogen got a job at Samsung he may be able to convince them to opensource certain things in the better interest of android.
Just a thought lol
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I think that the obly way we will see a spot on GPS is if someone takes the time to hack, crack, and reverse engineer the files we do have and try to figure out where certain things go.
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If only we knew someone with enough experience
ironlood said:
Maybe ... just maybe since cyanogen got a job at Samsung he may be able to convince them to opensource certain things in the better interest of android.
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Someone better hit him up
Really ikno samsung pays attention to hacker community so they know our problem at least give us GPS files to implement into the roms
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so i have a captivate, i love it. however my carrier has limited service where i live. i have seen people say they get better download and upload speed with different modems and i myself have flashed different modems and used speedtest app to see these differences. my question(s) are really as follows
can a modem give you better reception?
is it possible to make your antenna in your phone work harder to pick up better signal strength?
in general is there a way i can learn how modems work?
thanks smart peeps!
Gorship
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so i have a captivate, i love it. however my carrier has limited service where i live. i have seen people say they get better download and upload speed with different modems and i myself have flashed different modems and used speedtest app to see these differences. my question(s) are really as follows
can a modem give you better reception?
is it possible to make your antenna in your phone work harder to pick up better signal strength?
in general is there a way i can learn how modems work?
thanks smart peeps!
Gorship
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First, a modem us the binary file that runs the antenna. So if we were able to control and edit the binary (which we can't) you could potentially make the antenna "work harder".
so a modem works by controlling, software wise, the frequencies the antenna uses. For example, I9000 modems tell the antenna to also pick up hsupa, and that is why I9000 based roms have faster data. The modem needs to also be compatible with the kernel so it can run properly. This is why e can't use modems like JK4 on captivate based Roms.
flashing a modem can increase signal. It is all about where you are though. JK4, which is a great modem in Boston, might not be a great modem in San Francisco, or Detroit.
there is a sticky thread in the development section for this with a website that will help you pick out a new modem. Make sure it is compatible with your kernel first.
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There is not an easy answer to this (I don't think) but here is an interesting read that may be of some help (or at least an interesting read )...
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.modem.html
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There is not an easy answer to this (I don't think) but here is an interesting read that may be of some help (or at least an interesting read )...
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.modem.html
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as detailed as it can get..thanks for the read...
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as detailed as it can get..thanks for the read...
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True... Detailed.. However, mostly irrelevant..
When you flash a modem, you're flashing an operating system for the communications chip. It's an entire stand-alone operating system designed to minimalistically receive and transmit data. The communications chip is capable of running an entire device. This is evidant when you examine the binary. It contains keyboard, mouse and display drivers.
When the Captivate was released, it was released as a 3G device, not H, so its communications chip was configured to work as a 3G modem. This was likely a marketing decision as "3G" was all the rave at the time.
A modem won't improve your reception unless your old modem was configured incorrectly
As far as signal strength, it won't improve unless your old modem was configured incorrectly.
There are several tweaks which are applied in each version of modem firmware for different devices. Unfortunately, the communications chip is locked down/Closed-source Qualcrap.. So, we will never fully understand what configurations are available, nor can we do anything other than test and see which one works more effectively.
hey thank you so much guys, this is really interesting, sadly a little depressing but interesting. i have one last question then, since i am running my i897 captivate... with the ICS rom, does this mean i should use i9000 or i897 modems? i heard that i9000 modems were just better then i897 so i am using them... but if the above is true, i shoud be using i897 to get proper configuration of my device.
you guys are all awesome and ill be mashing the thanks button!
<3 Gorship
U have to use the specific modems for ICS... See here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16843698&postcount=1
And more specifically...See this page... http://soggycashew.weebly.com/cm7miui--ics-modems.html
yea im flashing a few of the ics i897 vs the i9000 i was using... still though... i have full bars with my old blackberry bold 9000 compared to my cappy which has 1 or 2... i dont understand why.