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Am I completely screwed?

So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?

If you got it off ebay, att doesnt want anything to do with it. You can try for HTC support, but i have no idea how HTC is with that kind of stuff.
Do a hard reset, and see if that helps any.

I wonder if it's just a faulty keyboard and it's causing shortcuts to open the notes software.
What other things are happening?
Could be a cable loose inside or the keyboard circuit board could have slipped out of place. This happened on mine.

HTC wont touch an HTC device under warranty without a receipt (from original purchase) Branded devices they wont touch without them coming from the network.
Paid repairs are different, they'll carry out the repairs for you, and invoice you for the repairs. They also charge for a quotation for repairs if you dont get it repaired (£20 in the UK I think, no idea outside of the UK)
If the phone keeps recording notes, it could be something as simple as a button being stuck. my solution with old devices was to mash the buttons as much as possible, and it generally unstuck them.
If your device is 45 days old (to you) then to be fair, its not likely to be an issue that the seller knew about, as its something thats occured since then. Issues can occur at any stage in a devices life, its just unfortunate that yours has chosen now to go wrong.
If you're not looking to pay to get the device fixed, it may be something as simple as opening the case up, and cleaning around the keyboard/extra buttons and re-assembling it, but if you're unsure on how to do this, I'd recommend not trying. When I opened my old 9100 to try and clean it up, something went sproing, and I lost a spring... I could never use the bottom row on the keyboard after that.

I've had good experiences with HTC.
SpugDarktyde said:
HTC wont touch an HTC device under warranty without a receipt (from original purchase) Branded devices they wont touch without them coming from the network.
Paid repairs are different, they'll carry out the repairs for you, and invoice you for the repairs. They also charge for a quotation for repairs if you dont get it repaired (£20 in the UK I think, no idea outside of the UK)
If the phone keeps recording notes, it could be something as simple as a button being stuck. my solution with old devices was to mash the buttons as much as possible, and it generally unstuck them.
If your device is 45 days old (to you) then to be fair, its not likely to be an issue that the seller knew about, as its something thats occured since then. Issues can occur at any stage in a devices life, its just unfortunate that yours has chosen now to go wrong.
If you're not looking to pay to get the device fixed, it may be something as simple as opening the case up, and cleaning around the keyboard/extra buttons and re-assembling it, but if you're unsure on how to do this, I'd recommend not trying. When I opened my old 9100 to try and clean it up, something went sproing, and I lost a spring... I could never use the bottom row on the keyboard after that.
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This isn't my experience.
I've had a couple of dealings with HTC UK and have been very happy:
1) Ebay-sourced Tornado failed screen - I phoned HTC and from the IMEI number they got the manufacturing date, worked out it was under a year old, and fixed it for free
2) ebay-sourced Artemis - I dropped it, bent the casing. I phoned HTC and they fixed it as a paid repair for 65UKP. This included a complete recase. When I noticed some of the buttons were a bit sticky afterwards, they did a second repair replacing the controls for free, despite it almost certainly being a problem caused by my initial dropping.
3) ebay-sourced Qtek 8500. Had a problem with the LCD failing when the clamshell was flexed. Again, phoned HTC UK and replaced under warranty.
They've been prompt, have native helpdesks, cheap and generally couldn't have been more helpful - definitely worth approaching them. This contrasts with, say, Nokia and is a major part of why I like HTC products.
Ric

Richie V6 said:
So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
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The first thing u should do is figure out if it is hardware or software related. Just do a hardreset and see if that helps. If not, then its most likely hardware related.

Check in Settings - Buttons what button is assigned to the recorder (usually the one on the left side), remove that assignment.
The button must be stuck or the sensor below it faulty, so it senses that button always pressed.
Richie V6 said:
So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
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This isn't my experience.
I've had a couple of dealings with HTC UK and have been very happy:
1) Ebay-sourced Tornado failed screen - I phoned HTC and from the IMEI number they got the manufacturing date, worked out it was under a year old, and fixed it for free
2) ebay-sourced Artemis - I dropped it, bent the casing. I phoned HTC and they fixed it as a paid repair for 65UKP. This included a complete recase. When I noticed some of the buttons were a bit sticky afterwards, they did a second repair replacing the controls for free, despite it almost certainly being a problem caused by my initial dropping.
3) ebay-sourced Qtek 8500. Had a problem with the LCD failing when the clamshell was flexed. Again, phoned HTC UK and replaced under warranty.
They've been prompt, have native helpdesks, cheap and generally couldn't have been more helpful - definitely worth approaching them. This contrasts with, say, Nokia and is a major part of why I like HTC products.
Ric
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Dont get me wrong, I wasnt slating HTC for their support, I'm with you on that one. I've just seen jobs that have been bounced back from them (rightfully so) and was just giving the worst case scenario, that being that HTC dont actually have to fix it.

the agent or att will not help you, you got it from eBay and even if they help it will be for extra $$ so you may well just override that idea
first thing we must be sure if its hardware failure or software failure
if its software then you need to read lots but eventually you will have to get a new ROM and start from scratch eliminate all 3rd party ( so i advice using stocked ROM)
look at this it might help http://rapidshare.com/files/103168855/HTC_Kaiser_Service_Manual_jas_pik.pdf
this is the repair manual for kaiser

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After this happened to me the first time I got some bunk electronics from ebay, I started using squaretrade.com. They will give you a warranty at about 50% of the cost of a Manufacturer/Dealer warranty and have a five day fix/replacement guarantee.

I would like to thank everyone for their reply I can see this is a dedicated community.
Starscreamer said:
I wonder if it's just a faulty keyboard and it's causing shortcuts to open the notes software.
What other things are happening?
Could be a cable loose inside or the keyboard circuit board could have slipped out of place. This happened on mine.
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Last night I reverted back to my factory rom but this did not fix the problem. Some odd things that I noticed that has me completely baffled is that only the directional keys (up, down, right, left) work on the keyboard but nothing else works. I tried doing a hard reset but that didn't wont since the 2 soft keys are not responding.
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the agent or att will not help you, you got it from eBay and even if they help it will be for extra $$ so you may well just override that idea
first thing we must be sure if its hardware failure or software failure
if its software then you need to read lots but eventually you will have to get a new ROM and start from scratch eliminate all 3rd party ( so i advice using stocked ROM)
look at this it might help http://rapidshare.com/files/103168855/HTC_Kaiser_Service_Manual_jas_pik.pdf
this is the repair manual for kaiser
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That manual seems very complete if I can't get HTC to fix it I will attempt to fix it myself. Does anyone know if I can purchase replacement part?

There's some hope for you. I bought my Tilt off of Ebay. AT&T warranted it from the day that it hit their network with my SIM card. So although it was originally purchased from AT&T (by the ebayer seller) on Oct 17th 2007, my warranty started December 6th 2007. No receipt required. They swapped it no problem. The TILT has a 365 day warranty via AT&T.
Just make sure you deal with a service center and not the individual stores. Go to attwireless.com and search for "TILT Warranty" .. look for the service center information.
Mine was swapped with no hassle in about 5minutes (I had a rom issue). One note if you go this route, check the replacement! My replacement has key-sticking issues (the right key on the keyboard gets stuck down, etc). The speaker (for phonecalls, not external) also is a little more muted than my old one (I sometimes have trouble hearing people). I may rewarranty it.
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Here: http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB64687
The service centers are contractors (I could tell by their shirts, saying "Company Name: Authorized AT&T Tech"), so I really don't think they care, as long as they can warranty it they will because it is more money for them. Just my thought.

As the above poster said, AT&T WILL do warranty exchanges on tilts bought through ebay or otherwise. I bought one off of craigslist and had it exchanged when a key on the keyboard stopped working. No problem. It is warrantied for 1 year after it is first used on their system.
The people stating otherwise are flat out wrong.

Thanks for the advice guys I was able to take the phone to a AT&T service center and swap the phone for a new one.

Richie V6 said:
Thanks for the advice guys I was able to take the phone to a AT&T service center and swap the phone for a new one.
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No problem. Glad to hear.
It was a nice surprise for me last week, as I thought I was out $400 for a new one or stuck to using a temporary phone until the Touch Pro came.

KyleK29 said:
No problem. Glad to hear.
It was a nice surprise for me last week, as I thought I was out $400 for a new one or stuck to using a temporary phone until the Touch Pro came.
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The touch pro is very sexy

congratulations
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The touch pro is very sexy
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How many times can you use your warrenty

for T-Mobile G1 if it's still been under a year since first purchase?

errrr once? I don't fully understand the question but if your phone breaks whilst it's under warranty you can get it replaced. I then imagine the replacement comes with a years warranty too.
That is, unless you voided the warranty, then you're screwed

Meltus said:
errrr once? I don't fully understand the question but if your phone breaks whilst it's under warranty you can get it replaced. I then imagine the replacement comes with a years warranty too.
That is, unless you voided the warranty, then you're screwed
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I think he means that if he breaks it then breaks another one and so one, will he be able to get a new one. I would assume HTC would catch on and stop sending you replacements.

Well, do you pay for insurance?
T-Mobile will only replace your phone for certain things. If you drop and break your phone, physical damage, they will NOT replace it. This is why you pay for insurance through your Network Provider (T-Mobile in this case).
Now if you're having software issues, maybe your camera stopped working, or you bricked your phone, you can get T-Mobile to replace it for free, however you need to explain yourself correctly. If you brick your phone, tell them you received and OTA update, and now your phone won't boot up. Or if it is something legitimate like your Camera stopped working for w/e reason (I've had to replace x1 of my G1's because of this, and I received a new one, free of charge), explain that to them, "One day it stopped working, and hasn't worked sense", blah blah. They're probably try and instruct you over the phone to do a wipe/factory reset, just go along with it, and remember: ALWAYS PLAY DUMB.
Anyways, to answer your question:
-if pay for insurance, then yes, you can break your phone as many times as you want, however you have a co-pay to pay (It was $130, it might be less now).
-If you've broken your phone, and don't have insurance, either replace it yourself, or you're screwed.
-If you've bricked your phone, or have some kind of software issue, you can get it replaced for free, as long as you do it right.
Hope that answers your question.

Ace42 said:
I think he means that if he breaks it then breaks another one and so one, will he be able to get a new one. I would assume HTC would catch on and stop sending you replacements.
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yes this is indeed what i mean. thanks for the help both of you.

personal experience..
I got 6 blackberry pearls in a span of 10 months when they first came out...

Problem with HTC Support (and the N1 phone) - Need advise

Has anyone been able to dispute a repair charge and does anyone know if there would be charges if the power button was not working?
I just want to share my story and am wondering if investing $400 of repair charges on top of a $530 phone is worth it.
4/7/10 - Purchased N1 (Compatible with 3G on AT&T U.S.) from Google Webstore.
6/7/10 - Begin having 3G data & phone signal loss in New Orleans. Contacted AT&T and was told they were having tower issues in the area. Spent one week using 2G instead.
6/13/10 - Went to AT&T store to check on service. Got a brand new SIM card that worked on another phone. At this point, carrier issue has been ruled out
6/14/10 - Phoned N1 support, performed a master reset and then got transferred to HTC for warranty support. It was either replacement or repair. Chose replacement option.
6/17/10 - Received replacement phone and shipped my original phone back to them the very next day.
6/23/10 - Received email for a $196(!) repair quotation. Phoned into HTC support and was told that it was a customer induced motherboard damage. I asked for more details on the damage & charge, and customer service said that they need information from the "warehouse" and get back to me. Never heard back from CS.
7/10/10 - New replacement phone shut off by itself and could not be powered back on.
7/11/10 - Called N1 support and performed master reset which did not work. Got transferred to HTC support but a case cannot be opened because the previous case was still outstanding. The customer serivce rep confirmed that the case notes stated that I had called for more information, and they were supposed to get back to me. I was told that I need to talk to a supervisor for further support and they do not work on weekends.
7/12/10 - Called HTC support and spoke to a supervisor. Basically she told me that my options are
my options are either to pay the $196 and close the case or wait up to 48 hours to get the details back from the "warehouse". Either way, no replacement can be processed until the previous case is closed. I was told that there is no way to:
1. Get the open case closed temporarily so a replacement for my current issue can be dealt with.
2. No other person beyond the supervisor(s) I can talk to.
3. No way to escalate to the wareshouse to speed up 48 hours needed on getting the previous repair details.
4. No one can do anything else for a customer who is going through an exception situation.
5. No clear instructions on how to dispute a repair quotation.
All customer service reps sounded pleasant but HTC has procedures that do not support customer satisfaction. Here are somethings that I find completely unsatisfying. Neither phones have been rooted, tempered with, dropped, or water damage on neither device.
1. First let's talk about 2 defective phones.
2. Sending repair quote to customers demanding payment without more information is unacceptable.
3. Blaming customer for self-induced damange while there is a known 3G issue for the N1.
4. Not getting back to customer on repair details is also unacceptable.
5. Not being able to open more than one case is absurd. In my situation, we're dealing with 2 different issues but for some reason, one is related to the other in the system.
6. Where is the repair charge dispute process documentation?
7. The is no exception to the "normal" escalation process is a huge gap. Basically I was told that after the supervisor level, it goes to the "warehouse". No one can talk to the wareshouse without going through the 48 hour escalation process.
8. Tell customer that damage maybe water related when the battery has no record of such.

You studiously do not deny self induced damage.did you break it? We're not here to play guessing games.
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Hi
I faced a similar situation as you. My power button went wonky and I sent it in to HTC for servicing. It was a very tiring ordeal for me.
The HTC support (in Singapore) kept insisting that my motherboard needed a replacement and they wanted to charge me for it as I had an unlocked bootloader and was unable to claim warranty.
I kept arguing with their phone support that I just wanted my power button fixed and I was skeptical that that required a motherboard replacement. They kept insisting that I needed to replace my motherboard in order fix the power button.
As I was getting nowhere with phone support( I spent 3 days arguing with them) I made a trip down to their service center to try to speak to the engineer actually servicing my phone.
Had a similar argument with the CSO there who repeated the same BS to me and finally said she will go inside and have the engineer come out to explain further. So I waited. After several minutes (of which i believe she was informing him that there was an angry customer outside), she emerged alone and said they will wave the charges for the button repair.
Do you know what disgusts me the most about this entire ordeal?
When i finally received my phone back from them, they repaired my power button but my boot loader remained unlocked!
They did not need to replace my motherboard!
IMO, HTC simply wanted to replace the motherboard cos I had an unlocked bootloader. What better way to make easy money then to milk me with an unnecessary but expensive repair simply cos I voided my warranty. It' s unethical and personally, HTC has lost any future business from me.
It ironic as I bought my phone from Google.

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You studiously do not deny self induced damage.did you break it? We're not here to play guessing games.
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I'm putting my money on an unlocked bootloader

No I have not unlocked or rooted neither phones. My replacement N1 received the Froyo push. I did not even install it myself. Seriously there was no tempering, dropping, or water damage on neither device.
I would agree that HTC is passing repair charges to customers because it makes good business sense. It'll be highly unlikely that I am going to purchase another HTC phone.

TangBiz said:
All customer service reps sounded pleasant but HTC has procedures that do not support customer satisfaction.
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Exactly my thought. I've had my phone repaired for almost a whole month now and I still have no hope of getting it back.
The customer service is nice but they are absolutely useless. Everything regarding the actual status of the phone has to be initiated by the escalation team or warehouse, and I highly doubt that they give a **** of the customers.

TangBiz said:
No I have not unlocked or rooted neither phones. My replacement N1 received the Froyo push. I did not even install it myself. Seriously there was no tempering, dropping, or water damage on neither device.
I would agree that HTC is passing repair charges to customers because it makes good business sense. It'll be highly unlikely that I am going to purchase another HTC phone.
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Has this been resolved?
If you haven't unlocked the bootloader, then there's no reason to charge you for the repair. Definitely talk to a supervisor and don't be afraid to insist that the phone if fully covered under warranty and they need to replace the unit or repair it.

I guess HTC support is 50/50, i've read that many HTC sends over a new phone the next day i guess it depends on certain malfunctions they do that. You should find out on what malfucntions do they send phones right away, and claim that as the problem.

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I guess HTC support is 50/50, i've read that many HTC sends over a new phone the next day i guess it depends on certain malfunctions they do that. You should find out on what malfucntions do they send phones right away, and claim that as the problem.
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I'm getting my rooted/unlocked phone repaired for free. So yeah, it really is 50/50!

My headphone jack started wigging out and thinking there was a headset plugged in when there wasn't. I also explained that I started to see dust coming in underneath the screen in the bottom left corner.
I opted for a replacement. I got it the next day. New one is great. Bootloader was unlocked and no charge was issued.
I would be livid. How old was the original phone with the "broken motherboard"? April? Well all hardware defects are covered up to 1 year. If the phone casing shows no physical signs of abuse yet the motherboard is broken... then that is a ringer that it is a manufacture defect.... especially if you'd had the phone for 2 months.
If there are no signs of physical damage and the water sticker is clean then you have full entitlement to your warranty. This includes motherboard replacements.

Samsung Warantee

The front speaker on my captivate has quit working. I purchased the phone from Best Buy so I assume I have to go though Samsung. Anyone have experience with Samsung's warantee procedures?

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The front speaker on my captivate has quit working. I purchased the phone from Best Buy so I assume I have to go though Samsung. Anyone have experience with Samsung's warantee procedures?
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It sucks. My phone was randomly shutting down and I called AT&T. After several transfers, they connected me to Samsung warranty department. They told me I had to ship my phone back to them and they will do some diagnostics on it and might fix it or might send me a different one (didn't say a brand new one). Meanwhile, I am on my own. I probably needs to take my old phone out and use it for a week or two. Because my issue is not so major, I still haven't sent mine back yet.

You mean the one you listen to calls with? I've never heard of that one going out. The rear one is common and is typically easily fixed. I just returned mine a couple weeks ago without a problem. Bought it at Wally world but it's all ATT so you can go through them. We have a repair center in town that does returns on the spot. Walked in, told them it was shutting down, gave me another one. Wasn't new though, but a refurb.

Yea, the speaker you put up to your ear. The speaker is not actually broken, it is the headphone jack - it constantly reports that headphones are plugged in thus muting the front speaker. At first the problem could be temporarily fixed by blowing air into the headphone jack (would fix the problem for 5 minutes - 1 day) but that trick is no longer working. Sticking a plastic stick into the headphone jack and pushing to the left will fix the speaker but as soon as I release the pressure the speaker goes silent again.
That is great news that ATT will swap it for refurb on the spot. I don't know how I could do without my phone for a week or two if I had to ship it to samsung...
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You mean the one you listen to calls with? I've never heard of that one going out. The rear one is common and is typically easily fixed. I just returned mine a couple weeks ago without a problem. Bought it at Wally world but it's all ATT so you can go through them. We have a repair center in town that does returns on the spot. Walked in, told them it was shutting down, gave me another one. Wasn't new though, but a refurb.
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axis01, thanks again. I went to the ATT repair center and walked out 4 minutes later with a new captivate. AWESOME. Thanks so much for that tip.

axis01 said:
You mean the one you listen to calls with? I've never heard of that one going out. The rear one is common and is typically easily fixed. I just returned mine a couple weeks ago without a problem. Bought it at Wally world but it's all ATT so you can go through them. We have a repair center in town that does returns on the spot. Walked in, told them it was shutting down, gave me another one. Wasn't new though, but a refurb.
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Yeah, if there is a repair center near you, then you are in good shape. If not, you have to ship it to them and that would really suck.

Samsung warranty takes about a week or two for them to repair your phone. You wont get a new one.
Here is a list of ATNT service centers:
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB91429
You are better off going to them. Less hassle and they will give you a refurbishment phone or maybe even a new one...
Trust me. I complained to samsung about the gps. They filed a repair claim and sent me a label. They had my phone for almost two weeks and claimed they replaced the parts. Got the phone back and it still sucked. Went to my local device center and the kid swapped the phone out and it works fine now.

Contact the AT&T Warranty Exchange at 1-800-801-1101 and tell them your issue. They'll send you a refurb by mail that won't include the battery or battery cover. Once you receive the phone, you have about 10 days to return it to them or they'll charge you for it until it's returned. You send the old phone back to them in the same box they shipped it in free of charge to you.
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make sure you make copies of all the labels on the return box, once you sent it back you have no way of tracking it without the number on the label. I read some horror stories where people were charged by ATT for the replacement phone because they could not locate the returned one in their own warehouse (they use a 3rd party shipping company and do not share RMA information!!)

Htc one warrenty service Qs

My HTC has major build quilty issues. The power button is flush with the top making turning on the phone annoying as hell and one side of the gaples construction has a huge gap on my screen! Ugggg. Can't trade it in at att since I'm pass 14 days and now its getting anoyying.
My question is... How is HTC with their warranty system? Do I just send my phone in to them? Are they good with sending me back a decent unit.. Will it be a new one or mine fixed? I don't see how they can open these phones without heat guns lol. And how long did it take?
Thanks guys!

Nickslife89 said:
My HTC has major build quilty issues. The power button is flush with the top making turning on the phone annoying as hell and one side of the gaples construction has a huge gap on my screen! Ugggg. Can't trade it in at att since I'm pass 14 days and now its getting anoyying.
My question is... How is HTC with their warranty system? Do I just send my phone in to them? Are they good with sending me back a decent unit.. Will it be a new one or mine fixed? I don't see how they can open these phones without heat guns lol. And how long did it take?
Thanks guys!
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AT&T will trade it out for you. You bought it from them so it goes back to them. You can send it to HTC but you will be without a phone for 10 days or longer. They are sending out replacement units I have not heard of them repairing a unit. But as I said if it's AT&T branded take it back to the store and get another one.

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AT&T will trade it out for you. You bought it from them so it goes back to them. You can send it to HTC but you will be without a phone for 10 days or longer. They are sending out replacement units I have not heard of them repairing a unit. But as I said if it's AT&T branded take it back to the store and get another one.
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I've tried I'm pass the 14 days they keep saying there is nothing they can do

Nickslife89 said:
I've tried I'm pass the 14 days they keep saying there is nothing they can do
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I would get a manager. They are responsible for the warranty for 1 years time. The gaps in the gapless construction is a warranty issue. You may need to just call into AT&T and they will get you a replacement sent to your house.