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Battery Lifetime

Ok i am new here to windows mobile this forum and the x1 as i only have it for about 3 days. But my question is, is it normal that it uses 57% ram when idle? And is the battery supposed to be empty at the end of the day (i leave it charging when i go to sleep)? I got the Hard-spl and Touch-IT v4.5 landscape installed.

The ram is normal for the rom, but the batt life aint.

What is a normal battery life then?

xinos said:
What is a normal battery life then?
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Depends on what you're doing with your phone.
The battery life can vary between a few hours (full usage of WiFi and/or Bluetooth and MP3) to 10+ days (most time in standby).
I have 4 days with average usage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495841

I charge it each day.Nomatter it's 90% or 30%.
I never now"will I use my X1 to listen music or go surfing tomorrow?".

Uhm i got 1 day when i am not using the phone and it's just on standby mode all the day and no i don't have wifi on. But i don't know if GPS goes on/off auto but as far as i know it's off.

If make x1 just standby and never used it,maybe a week or more.
But,who can buy a mobile just make it standby
I never mind it,get one more battery maybe a good idea

Hmm i think ill just wait for a week or so and look what happens as i just had it for 3 days.

xinos said:
Hmm i think ill just wait for a week or so and look what happens as i just had it for 3 days.
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3 days is enough for me...I can not believe my x1 could do it...
I don't know is there the "momax battery" in your area..
My friend told me the battery is better than the original one.

You should search the forum... there are some ways to increase battery life... the biggest issue people have is that they don't fully charge the phone before switching it on. There is a bug in WM which takes the battery charge at the time to be 100%. It will not charge above this figure unless it's turned off.
So turn off the phone and fully charge then restart the phone and it will set the charge level correctly.
Then see what life you get on stand by... I bet it's lots higher.
crabby

No it doesn't, i switched mine on at the phone shop then charged it at home. Worked fine

Wow... that's a nice kick in the nads... could you at least let him try it? I know I had the issue when I first got the phone... did this and it helped me. But of course, if you haven't had this problem dadeadman you must be universally correct.
crabby

I'm gonna give that a go. Since going to itje v4.5 my battery life has been completely naff, doesn't even last a day :-(

djs10 said:
I'm gonna give that a go. Since going to itje v4.5 my battery life has been completely naff, doesn't even last a day :-(
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same as mine

i feel thre battery life on my x1 is terrible, i full charge it n dischange it on 6: 30am, was using some GPS, heavy EDGE to go online but around 8am to 1pm is using wifi to go on... after all this it drop to 20% battery... so i borrow some1 laptop to charge da fone, n it seems it wont charge n drain battery from my fone, it shows dat im gettin charge but after i unplug it around 5pm i got 5% battery left. my fone shut down on me at 6pm...i got home around 9pm... dat means i got 3 hrs lost in space... no1 can call me, cant go online n lalalala...
i thought my w960 battery was wack... dis is worst...

[Q] Battery weirdness

Hi guys,
I have attached a screenshot of a juice plot of my battery. I turned on flight mode last night and as shown for ~1.5h everything is fine and dandy but then the battery is being drained. I am at a loss regarding what might be going on there and have no clue on how to debug this. There were no apps running and I did not use the phone until the morning (turned flight mode off again).
Does anybody have an idea?
Thanks and greetings
N.

hum... I maybe seeing the same issue, the past few days my battery overnight is being drained by about 20% when in flight mode, normally it only goes down 5%~.
could it be related to the time change? only thing that I can think of that has changed in the past few days.

My battery power is a bit inconsistent and it has its good days and bad days. I am currently using the Hong Kong battery in my phone and have been making calls, using the internet and listening to music for a couple of hours while at work. The phone has been on for 22 hours and 20 minutes and the battery is reading 69% yet the other night I went to bed with the battery at about 70% and when I woke up in the morning the phone was totally dead!

Huge problems with my galaxy s3 in the past few days.

Hello everyone!
This is my second post here...but I really felt like I had to take attitude this time and actually do something.
So my samsung galaxy s3 is acting so weird that I can't use it without something bad happening for one day.
So...first of all...my battery doesn't last more than four hours straight if, for example, I am listening to music.
It literally goes down about 1% every few minutes.
Also..there is something really weird happening with my battery even after it completely shuts down. Lets's say I am on 1% and the phone shuts off. After the screen goes black and I plug it in...the charging screen appears and the battery seems to be half charged. I open the phone again and it is already at 45%. All this operation takes a matter of seconds...but still it goes from 1% to 45%. After the phone is up...this percentage starts to go down even faster than before...in the end my phone shuts down again...and this time it starts to charge from 0%.
Today it shut off...and when I got home and plugged in the charger it didn't do anything...i just left it like that for about 10 minutes then tried to power it on without the charger being plugged in...and it worked. After that it started to charge. I have no ideea what is happening.
Also...my charging time is really big. I do not know why but when I use another charger from a samsung galaxy mini 2 it seems to charge way faster.
That's pretty much all so far. If you need more details, please let me know.
I hope you can help me sort this out!
Best regards!

Ilie Mihai said:
Hello everyone!
This is my second post here...but I really felt like I had to take attitude this time and actually do something.
So my samsung galaxy s3 is acting so weird that I can't use it without something bad happening for one day.
So...first of all...my battery doesn't last more than four hours straight if, for example, I am listening to music.
It literally goes down about 1% every few minutes.
Also..there is something really weird happening with my battery even after it completely shuts down. Lets's say I am on 1% and the phone shuts off. After the screen goes black and I plug it in...the charging screen appears and the battery seems to be half charged. I open the phone again and it is already at 45%. All this operation takes a matter of seconds...but still it goes from 1% to 45%. After the phone is up...this percentage starts to go down even faster than before...in the end my phone shuts down again...and this time it starts to charge from 0%.
Today it shut off...and when I got home and plugged in the charger it didn't do anything...i just left it like that for about 10 minutes then tried to power it on without the charger being plugged in...and it worked. After that it started to charge. I have no ideea what is happening.
Also...my charging time is really big. I do not know why but when I use another charger from a samsung galaxy mini 2 it seems to charge way faster.
That's pretty much all so far. If you need more details, please let me know.
I hope you can help me sort this out!
Best regards!
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1.Might be the battery is dead or broken, or its not calibrated. How old is the phone and battery?
2. It seems to take ages to charge my s3 lte too, give us a number in hours how much time you need?
3. The problem where phone wont turn on or show charging when battery is as low as 1%, i had this too, i think its normal, its protecting the battery
4. Do you have overcloacked anything? It happend to me when i had ovecloaced and did benchamark test, the phone froze and battery eas 5% when i restarted the phone, but before it was 45.
Not realy helpful but i am trying XD. Also might wanna buy new battery, its not that expesive

if you are running stock rom with no rooting no anything....100% it's the battery.
if not install stock and see how it goes...if it's acting normal then the mods are the problem...if it's the same it's the battery.

Do a factory data reset on stock recovery. See how that works out first

Starting from factory reset is bad idea - it should be the last step IMHO.
First what in such case we need to check is battery health.
Percentage we see on our phone is weak indicator, because it is calculated
Better to see the voltage in different situations. How to check this (terminal app or adb in console):
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now
The lowest voltage that device can handle without heavy usage is less than 3500mV (I saw even 3240mV, but with low brightness, no data connection and after trying to make a call phone turned off).
The maximum voltage is obout 4300mV.
When You see 1% of battery and voltage is realy close to 3500mV or battery is charged and voltage after removing charge is dropping realy fast to then your battery very likely need to be replaced.
I bought Samsung Extended Battery (3000mAh) and this tripled the time usage than my 2 years old normal battery 2100mAh. You can see that difference in their capacity is much smaller - about 43% biger, but give me 300% much time on battery so old one was realy worn out.
BUT if your battery wasnt used for longer than half year, you can do as follows:
1. Discharge battery
2. When phone turns off - turn it on again, but into download mode (Home-VolumeDown-Power)
3. Leave phone for as long as it turns off again and repeat step 2 till time that Download Mode wont even boot.
4. Take off battery and place it back, and again try point 2 (start Download Mode) - do it until phone will show Download Mode for only 2-3 secconds
5. Again and last time replace battery and charge phone, but turned off
6. When phone will be charged, turn it on and leave it on charger for about one hour
After those steps use your phone lightly and try to repeat whole process one more time but only when the battery will normaly discharge and phone will turn off.
I tried those steps and battery for sure can work longer FOR ONE RUN, but unfortunately it can lead to loss of capacity much faster, but it will be noticable after one year - IMHO its always good time to buy new battery.

paffo said:
Starting from factory reset is bad idea - it should be the last step IMHO.
First what in such case we need to check is battery health.
Percentage we see on our phone is weak indicator, because it is calculated
Better to see the voltage in different situations. How to check this (terminal app or adb in console):
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now
The lowest voltage that device can handle without heavy usage is less than 3500mV (I saw even 3240mV, but with low brightness, no data connection and after trying to make a call phone turned off).
The maximum voltage is obout 4300mV.
When You see 1% of battery and voltage is realy close to 3500mV or battery is charged and voltage after removing charge is dropping realy fast to then your battery very likely need to be replaced.
I bought Samsung Extended Battery (3000mAh) and this tripled the time usage than my 2 years old normal battery 2100mAh. You can see that difference in their capacity is much smaller - about 43% biger, but give me 300% much time on battery so old one was realy worn out.
BUT if your battery wasnt used for longer than half year, you can do as follows:
1. Discharge battery
2. When phone turns off - turn it on again, but into download mode (Home-VolumeDown-Power)
3. Leave phone for as long as it turns off again and repeat step 2 till time that Download Mode wont even boot.
4. Take off battery and place it back, and again try point 2 (start Download Mode) - do it until phone will show Download Mode for only 2-3 secconds
5. Again and last time replace battery and charge phone, but turned off
6. When phone will be charged, turn it on and leave it on charger for about one hour
After those steps use your phone lightly and try to repeat whole process one more time but only when the battery will normaly discharge and phone will turn off.
I tried those steps and battery for sure can work longer FOR ONE RUN, but unfortunately it can lead to loss of capacity much faster, but it will be noticable after one year - IMHO its always good time to buy new battery.
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Nothing good will come from that procedure. Those steps were useful in the epoch of nickel-cadmium batteries, where the battery had no internal circuits to monitor itself and had a tendecy to uncalibrate. Those stops would force the device and the battery to re-adapt to one another.
But now we're using Li-Ion batteries, and those DO NOT like to be fully discharged. Hell, the device might not even recognize the battery, if it has really been fully discharged.
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Okay...so I went to the shop from where I bought my s3 (Orange shop) And they told me to send it to their service and I did so...as I still had it under warranty. It was there for exactly a week and today I got it back. They told me they replaced the battery (which they actually did...I checked that) and the power connector from my phone. The battery it's still not good enaugh in my opinion. Immediately after I got it back...I turned it on and it had 79% battery. In about an hour it went down about 25% (so to 54%) but I didn't used it havely (note: the mobile data option was on). I really do not know what to do. I asked someone and they told me to send it again because this is not normal.
My s3 is running stock 4.3 and used to last waay longer back in the day.
What should I do? I literally got about max 5 hours of use before I sent it and I am afraid this will happen again. I do not even want to think what is going to happen if I listen to music for example.
I turned the phone off a few hours ago...then let it charge up to 59% and then stopped because I had to leave. I used it moderately for about 4 hours and 51 minutes (as my phone says) and i have about 2h and 15minutes of screen on time. My screen is using 50% of the battery and also Android system is using about 17%...chrome 12% Android OS 7% and I think everything else is less important as they use 7%<. After those almost 5 hours...while the mobile data option was on all the time I am at 14% battery.
What do you think? Is it good enaugh? Should I send it back? I really need help!
I am waiting for suggestions.
Best regards!

Ilie Mihai said:
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I turned the phone off a few hours ago...then let it charge up to 59% and then stopped because I had to leave. I used it moderately for about 4 hours and 51 minutes (as my phone says) and i have about 2h and 15minutes of screen on time. My screen is using 50% of the battery and also Android system is using about 17%...chrome 12% Android OS 7% and I think everything else is less important as they use 7%<. After those almost 5 hours...while the mobile data option was on all the time I am at 14% battery.
What do you think? Is it good enaugh? Should I send it back? I really need help!
I am waiting for suggestions.
Best regards!
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I think so, the fact that you have the screen on top of Android OS (and not the other way around) pleases me. You had your screen on for 2h15m, of course your battery went down fast
Test it, charge it full, and use it. Normally.
Do this for 2 or 3 days, and check how the battery lasts

[Q] Losing battery doing nothing

I used to think this "cell standby battery drain" problem everyone was having was just that cell standby happened to be what was using the most battery instead of screen like most phones. But, lately this phone has been aggravating me greatly. I will unplug my phone when it becomes fully charged in the morning and go back to sleep for around 3 hours. In this time of doing nothing the battery will drop from 100% down to between 85%-75%, does anyone else have this problem? Where the battery just loses a huge amount of charge doing nothing. Because it's starting to really annoy me. All my other Android phones would lose around 1% an hour in deep sleep and I'm only getting around 12 hours of use now with 1 hour of screen on time. I have the VZW model with 4.4.4.

Alcatel Idol 4S Battery Drain

My Alcatel Idol 4S Windows 10 seems to lose charge. Yesterday, after fully charging around 4:00 PM, I let the phone sit, completely unused, till this morning. It was turned off with LTE enabled...nothing else on, and most everything set not to run in background. I also have set the phone not to sync automatically. Now at 9:00 it is at 94%. When I browse or use YouTube it really drains quickly. I have done a factory reset. Any thoughts?
Once the phone went down to 10% and powered down. Afterwards it charged normally. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Update: A 20 minute call drained the phone by 4%

Update 2 I went back in and made sure that absolutely nothing is working in background. I wish another Windows owner could give me a sense of what kind of battery usage/drainage is normal for this phone. I amcoming from a Lumia 521 which drains slowly. I'm reluctant to return this to T-Mobile and wind up with a refurb.
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My Alcatel Idol 4S Windows 10 seems to lose charge. Yesterday, after fully charging around 4:00 PM, I let the phone sit, completely unused, till this morning. It was turned off with LTE enabled...nothing else on, and most everything set not to run in background. I also have set the phone not to sync automatically. Now at 9:00 it is at 94%. When I browse or use YouTube it really drains quickly. I have done a factory reset. Any thoughts?
Once the phone went down to 10% and powered down. Afterwards it charged normally. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Update: A 20 minute call drained the phone by 4%
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Last night I charged the phone to 100%, turned everything off...phone in airplane mode, so no cellular drain. This morning phone at 95% with nothing running and nothing in background. Surely someone on this forum must have insight into this.

emu86 said:
Last night I charged the phone to 100%, turned everything off...phone in airplane mode, so no cellular drain. This morning phone at 95% with nothing running and nothing in background. Surely someone on this forum must have insight into this.
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5% battery drain overnight seems about par for the course, no? Means your phone untouched would stay on for 6.6 days in standby mode if my math is right.

macallik said:
5% battery drain overnight seems about par for the course, no? Means your phone untouched would stay on for 6.6 days in standby mode if my math is right.
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is that par for the course? Some people seem to lose no or 1% charge when in standby overnight (everything off). How much charge do you lose when you make a 20 minute call, or play a youtube, or when your phone is not in use, but is connected to cellular with bluetooth on?
Thanks for your response

Send it to Alcatel for a battery replacement. You will get the same phone back that you sent in. I just did, and my battery life issues are much better.
The simple fact that your phone shuts of at 10% means that you need a new battery. It will get worse.