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Hello there,
Here's my situation: I'm still on Froyo JPY stock (unrooted) and have been reading extensively in this forums for quite a long time now.
I have various issues with my current configuration, the most prominent being fast battery drain (my phone has never lasted more than approx. 18hours), slow gps fix, occasional crashes and sometimes slow responses. Apart from that I dig the idea of a different lock-screen, VoodooSound for better audio recording quality while shooting videos at concerts, nice themes etc. etc.
Now I've looked into Virnik0's step-by-step guide and this sounds all very understandable and should give me a rooted 2.3.3 stock with SuperCurio's VoodooKernel (thank you in advance for such a clear guide).
However I'm still hesitating to upgrade for various reasons, and I hope someone can clear up some of these for me and might give me their general opinion.
1. Going from Froyo to Gingerbread, I feel like a full wipe would be necessary (or nicer and cleaner), am I right? How would I go about that before the update? (If I wait until the Kies Update, will this wipe my phone automatically?)
2. With the update, will I get the SamsungApps again with 2.3.3 that came with my phone on Froyo?
3. What's up with the issues in the 2.3.3 version, can they be fixed without too much understanding of mounting and rootexplorer etc.? (You read so much about issues like Swype, GoogleMaps, Battery Drain etc. It's hard to decide whether the new version will meet my needs or make things worse)
Now as an alternative, do you guys think flashing a custom Kernel like Voodoo (Froyo Versions) togehter with a less battery draining modem would already solve some, or all of my issues?
I am just quite confused with all the options and new information everyday and I don't want to mess up anything. This being said, I can easily access both Recovery and Download Mode with the 3-button combos (kind of an intermediate newbie here, i guess )
Well all opinions and answers are very much appreciated.
Kind regards.
Point one gingerbread is BETA .
Point two using the unofficial methods may brick your phone and will certainly void warranty .
Point three using unofficial roms means kies no longer updates .
Point four the Samsung apps you get are in the main the same .
Point four the majority of reported bugs are either bad flash or idiot using the phone .
Your choice to proceed .
Personal route would be to follow Virnik0's step-by-step guide. But stop before Installing Darky rom .
Instead go to Rom Kitchen and build a rom .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817703
Stock with WIPE Kernel Chainfires .and all other apps available .
when thats done install CF-Root-XW_XEE_JVB-v3.1-CWM3RFS
Followed by if required XWJVB_Gingerbread_v5.2_Android_lock
jje
Thanks for your swift reply, it is much appreciated.
Just for my understanding: The procedure you recommend sounds a little "double" to me:
If I follow Virnik0's guide until step 20 (right before Darky ROM), my phone has already been flashed with stock firmware including bootloaders + CFRoot Kernel + VoodooKernel (supercurio).
After that you mean go to ROM Kitchen (the new Beta I suppose?) and stock again this time with WIPE and Chainfire's Kernel. After that again with CFRoot Kernel?
I am confused. What is the purpose of this. Besides that, can you point me to the XWJVB_Gingerbread_v5.2_Android_lock file?
Not if its already flashed you dont need them just pick what you want .
I probably stopped as soon as i had 2.3 installed and then went rom kitchen etc .
Just stop before the post that says install Darky rom and you should be fine .
XWJVB_Gingerbread_v5.2_Android_lock file?
You will have to search i have deleted all my SGS 1 links .
jje
I think the point he was trying to make was that you can build a rom to suit your needs in the kitchen. If u want sammy apps you can include them, if u don't you don't have to.there are many custom roms out there too. alot off which strip out the crap from samsung. I personally use debusrom but this does not have samsung apps. it does however have the aosp lockscreens. Its all down to what you want. Which is why the kitchen may be a better option for you, right down to the modem you wish to use.
Drew
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JJEgan said:
Not if its already flashed you dont need them just pick what you want .
I probably stopped as soon as i had 2.3 installed and then went rom kitchen etc .
Just stop before the post that says install Darky rom and you should be fine .
XWJVB_Gingerbread_v5.2_Android_lock file?
You will have to search i have deleted all my SGS 1 links .
jje
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oh man ur always here to answer people's quesion u got thanks from me
now commenting on the original post, the only reason for me stay away from the gb roms is the call recording function which is unavailable yet in gb roms (apart from miui which is awesome but unstable according my experience )
MIUI is not unstable, it just has a few minor bugs, biggest one being battery drain. everything works as it should do, ive been using it since rc3 and i aint going back..... ever lol
azzledazzle said:
MIUI is not unstable, it just has a few minor bugs, biggest one being battery drain. everything works as it should do, ive been using it since rc3 and i aint going back..... ever lol
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wat about the compass+accelerometre+occasional restarts+ laggy 3g+imei issues ?
Hello all.
This is my very first post here. So, first of all I want to say many thanks to all developers/members on this forum. Big thanks for sharing knowledge, for doing great investigations and so on.
And right now... questions...
I recently bought Sony Xperia X8. This is my first Android device (I helped my friends with these ones, but just to reflash using manufacturer steps, or configuring devices, not customizing) with which I can do anything I want. I read a lot information about this device and need to clear some things... So, lets start:
(Just for note: I 'm an experienced linux programmer/developer/user, so I have a lot of experience and need just some specific things)
1. What is bootloader in meaning of specific device. Is this something like plain Grub, but just hardware-related? Or it is something like BIOS in PCs meaning?
2. What does ROM file contains? Is that just list of packages and platform-related things excluding kernel, loader and etc, or ROMs contains kernel also? I saw post where someone said "I use xxxx kernel with xxxx ROM", and another post where someone said "This ROM contains xxx kernel". What is the right one?
3. I saw three types of flashes around the forum: "ftf", "sin" and "img". What is the difference between them? Which ones are better (prefferable)?
4. All ROMs which I tried have same issue: Reboot while using ad-hoc wi-fi and activating lockscreen (trying wipes, formating, flash from stock). Can someone, who used stable version of "Cyanogen Mod 7.1.0 stable" confirm is this bug fixed here or not? WiFi is very important for me, especially ad-hoc. (I just want to wait some time 2~3 weeks to see if device working fine and no any defects occur, before I void my warranty by unlocking bootloader)
5. I saw a lot of reviews for different ROMs so I can't just choose one... Maybe someone will suggest me some stable ROM with 100% working wifi based on 2.2 (or 2.3)
Any comments/advices/explanations are greatly appreciated.
P.S. Sorry me for my bad english, I'm originally from Ukraine.
hello..
i'm newbie too in this forum,maybe you must search all answer of your qustion in general forum not in subforum here or try to go to cyanogen forum.
just sugestion,i sugest you to use froyobread rom or froyopro i (2.2.x both) if you want wifi work good in your device ( cause there any wifi bugs in other rom's,actually in 2.3.x rom).
The bootloader it can be locked again
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dotsen9 said:
The bootloader it can be locked again
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Yes, I know, but if subject will die during using custom ROM because of some factory defects (believe me, today quality of products is very low level, especially here, in Ukraine) can be situation when I will not be able to return to stock firmware. Anyway, thanks... and still waiting for some explanations.
zieaditya said:
hello..
i'm newbie too in this forum,maybe you must search all answer of your qustion in general forum not in subforum here or try to go to cyanogen forum.
just sugestion,i sugest you to use froyobread rom or froyopro i (2.2.x both) if you want wifi work good in your device ( cause there any wifi bugs in other rom's,actually in 2.3.x rom).
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Hmm, I have same issues with the wifi even on 2.2 froyo pro, floyo and others, so I thinking about custom kernels, just need to someone confirm what it will solve problem.
By the way, I got questions which I posted here during search forum, so there aren't answers which I need. I really need some technical details about that. Maybe I will be able to help developers with some improvements. Just need to know more about android (coz I have a lot of linux experience - building linux from scratch, optimization, developing, debugging, etc)
Thanks anyway for your attention.
P.S. Offtop... What do I need to do so moderators will permit me to post in <5 min? Coz now working a restrictions for newbies.
You need at least 10 posts here on forum...,;-)
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1. The bootloader is a special software, that is loaded by the firmware and loads the kernel itself.
This doesn´t only exists on Android, every OS has a bootloader.
2. The ROMs and the kernels are different to flash, the only ROm that "includes" a kernel is the official Android 2.1, which can be flashed with flashtool.
What flashtool is, and what you can do with it, can be read in the X8 FAQ-thread.
3. have a look at the FAQ-thread again....you will find something.
4. GingerDX should have working ad-hoc Wi-Fi, as this is also inportant for DX, especially on WEP.
CM 7.1.0 is still under development, as it´s based on the FXP ROM.
5.I´d suggest you GingerDX+LinuxDX, this combination is smooth like a baby´s ass and as fast as hell!
And everything is working!(Well, maybe there are some bugs, but I´m using this for a few months now and I didn´t found anything that does absolutely NOT work.
codfreak said:
1. The bootloader is a special software, that is loaded by the firmware and loads the kernel itself.
This doesn´t only exists on Android, every OS has a bootloader.
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I know what is bootloader. I asked is the bootloader in the current context something like software thing (GRUB, LILO, NTLDR, bootrecord if you want) OR it is something like hardware-specific BIOS alternative? This is the question.
codfreak said:
2. The ROMs and the kernels are different to flash, the only ROm that "includes" a kernel is the official Android 2.1, which can be flashed with flashtool.
What flashtool is, and what you can do with it, can be read in the X8 FAQ-thread.
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What is flashtool I know too. So all ROMs, excepting Stock does not include kernel. Clearly, thanks.
codfreak said:
4. GingerDX should have working ad-hoc Wi-Fi, as this is also inportant for DX, especially on WEP.
CM 7.1.0 is still under development, as it´s based on the FXP ROM.
5.I´d suggest you GingerDX+LinuxDX, this combination is smooth like a baby´s ass and as fast as hell!
And everything is working!(Well, maybe there are some bugs, but I´m using this for a few months now and I didn´t found anything that does absolutely NOT work.
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Will give it a try... Thanks!
You are a linux programmer?guys we might have a new developer in few months
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Hi
I`m also have WiFi problems with Froyo Pro v1 and v1.1.
Froyobread 23b works fine.
Looking for a 2.2 rom still in developmen with a working WiFi!!!!
I have a LG optimus 2x (rooted)...I changed alot of rom's and things before..but it is a long time ago,and now I got a new LG optimus 2x for fun ,and I want to change the ROM and play with stuff like that.
so I'm just wondering.. Can I go from stock rom to cm10 without having cm7 first? I saw a thread about that you cant change from stock rom over to cm10 ,without having cm7 installed first?...
And is it the same way to install as before? like , root your phone,install clockwork recovery ,then reboot in recovery,wipe everything,and install cm10 from there ,and then everything works?
should I go for cm10 or cm7 ? which one is the best?
Sorry for my english.
-Andrè
It's the same classic way of installing roms as you say, but CM10 roms aren't perfect for the moment and a lot of people are having call audio problems (no sound!) so either try CM7 with less bugs and everything working, or try the official v28e/g leaked ICS version roms (with less bugs than CM10, but a little slower).
If you try the official ICS rom you'll have to try the nvflash method (very good tutorial in dev section) which will change phone partitions. I reckon that more CM10 roms will be developed soon though, it's really your choice.
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It's the same classic way of installing roms as you say, but CM10 roms aren't perfect for the moment and a lot of people are having call audio problems (no sound!) so either try CM7 with less bugs and everything working, or try the official v28e/g leaked ICS version roms (with less bugs than CM10, but a little slower).
If you try the official ICS rom you'll have to try the nvflash method (very good tutorial in dev section) which will change phone partitions. I reckon that more CM10 roms will be developed soon though, it's really your choice.
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Ahh..okey! thanks a lot
Hi, I just installed the JellyBlast 3.0.3 rom for my Galaxy Pop Plus with the Cor Plenus Kernel 2.1.5 yesterday, and I must say it's a great rom. It's pretty and boots faster than a fresh install of a stock rom. I couldn't help but notice there seem to be some bugs though that don't seem to be reported in the dev thread, so I was wondering if it was just me, or are these actual issues:
1. Some settings don't take effect properly until restart
This happens for things like enabling a keyboard, or allowing installation of non-Market apps. Also, the wifi seems to turn on properly, but it doesn't seem like the apps can detect or use it properly until a restart is done. This isn't a rom breaking issue, but it's an annoying one for a rom that works quite well.
2. The QuickPanel Settings crashes the settings "app".
Every time I try to access the QuickPanel Settings, the entire setting "app" crashes, so I haven't been able to look at those settings at all. This seems to be quite a major bug, though it hasn't really affected the way I use the rom yet.
I hope someone can enlighten me on whether these 2 issues are actual issues, or otherwise. Thanks.
write same words in dev thread
I would have posted this inside the dev thread, unfortunately, I've yet to hit the 10 post requirement to post in the dev thread, and thus I had no choice but to post it here.
NightShadow89 said:
I would have posted this inside the dev thread, unfortunately, I've yet to hit the 10 post requirement to post in the dev thread, and thus I had no choice but to post it here.
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Im about tot flash this rom but out of thhe blue I saw this thread and make me a halt to flash this rom.
It's a good rom regardless of the bugs. They're annoying to be sure, but nothing really deal breaking. I would have preferred a more stable rom with less bugs, but given the lack of custom roms for the 5570i, this seems to be the best out there. Given a choice between this and stock, I'll take this rom every time. The bugs shouldn't stop you from flashing and trying it out. In any case, you can always do a nandroid backup before flashing so you can go back to your previous rom if you like.
the Arabic support
I tried to install the ataboc file from cwm but the installation aborted... Please help there is alot of featire I cant use :crying:
Guys,
Since ive got my HTC Desire ive been changing roms etc.. but only the CM based roms.
Did it all by just reading, and complete failure ( sometimes )
I also did this on my Gnote and its running perfectly.
Running CM9 on 4.0.4 with CM based kernel.
But its a time to change, im getting pretty bored with it.
Ive seen nice features on the ParanoiAndroid Rom and would like to install it.
Readed alot of threads but cant figure out what the best way is to do it.
Can someone help me so that i wont mess my phone
CM9 has a safe kernel. so you could just follow the instruction in the OP.. just the usual wipes and install rom and gapps