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Separate radio for 3G?

Are there two physical radios in the Tilt/TyTN II? I ask because I'm experiencing a strange problem that nobody else seems to have seen before. That, or nobody noticed my posts here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335096
The problem is that phone/data work fine when the phone is in non-3G mode. (In the Comm Manager, available in most recent ROMs, I have disabled the 3G mode, so I'm using only GSM here in the US).
In 3G mode, I'll get a 3G icon (used to get an H, months ago), but will be unable to place/receive calls, and no data connections will be established -- they'll all time out or say that "the answering modem has disconnected."
So, back to my question: is it possible that my radio is partly damaged? Can that happen? I'm not sure how else to explain the utter lack of 3G on my phone.

can't have a damaged radio, you could have the wrong radio for the device and/or version of windows mobile. 3g only works if in 3g area,have it enabled and turned on through comm manager.also make sure you're network settings are correct and make sure phone is set to auto in networks tab in phone settings,not set to gsm/cdma
PS, the search tool/wiki are you're friends since this has been covered too many times

dyetheskin said:
can't have a damaged radio, you could have the wrong radio for the device and/or version of windows mobile. 3g only works if in 3g area,have it enabled and turned on through comm manager.also make sure you're network settings are correct and make sure phone is set to auto in networks tab in phone settings,not set to gsm/cdma
PS, the search tool/wiki are you're friends since this has been covered too many times
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Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I've tried everything I can think of, and everything suggested. Nearly ever ROM I've seen, with nearly every radio; every combination of wap.cingular, isp.cingular, etc. The AT&T store thinks the phone is defective b/c they can't figure it out, either. In response to your comments: tried every version of windows mobile and most of the radios available; I'm very much in a HSDPA 3G area (used to get 5 bars "H" all the time); 3G is enabled; network settings are correct; phone is set to auto/auto.
Any other ideas, anyone? I appreciate it!

I've been have the same exact problem. I posted about it about a month and a half ago, but got nothing.
Everything worked perfectly until one day, out of nowhere, 3G stopped working for me. I've also tried multiple radios and ROMs and to no avail. The weird thing is that when it stopped working, nothing had been changed in months.
I know that I'm definitely in a 3G coverage area because I used to get 3G service all the time.
If I turn 3G on, it'll work in an edge only area, but as soon as it switches over to WCDMA, the problems occur.
This is super aggravating.

AndyNJ said:
I've been have the same exact problem. I posted about it about a month and a half ago, but got nothing.
Everything worked perfectly until one day, out of nowhere, 3G stopped working for me. I've also tried multiple radios and ROMs and to no avail. The weird thing is that when it stopped working, nothing had been changed in months.
I know that I'm definitely in a 3G coverage area because I used to get 3G service all the time.
If I turn 3G on, it'll work in an edge only area, but as soon as it switches over to WCDMA, the problems occur.
This is super aggravating.
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Well, the good part is, you're not alone. I found another forum online (can't remember where, I'm at work now and I found it last night) were several people were having the exact same problem -- in various countries around the world, including the US.
They had decent luck flashing the stock HTC ROM and then the French radio mentioned on the big XDA radio post (search google for "kaiser radio" and you should see it). However, I did the same and still have the 3G problem.

did you try using a shipped att rom and see if you still have this problem? if the problem goes away, then maybe its just a rom/radio mismatch problem. if it doesnt, then its more likely a hardware failure.

I'm in france, and since few days, i've the same problem, and i haven't change the radio. the phone is going for repair.
link to my post

XtreMe_G said:
did you try using a shipped att rom and see if you still have this problem? if the problem goes away, then maybe its just a rom/radio mismatch problem. if it doesnt, then its more likely a hardware failure.
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Yep -- I've tried going all the way back to the original ROM and radio. No go.

yeantbron said:
I'm in france, and since few days, i've the same problem, and i haven't change the radio. the phone is going for repair.
link to my post
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Can you keep us posted on what happens when it comes back? If it's really a hardware problem, many inquiring minds would love to know.
Bonne chance!

chaosniner said:
Are there two physical radios in the Tilt/TyTN II? I ask because I'm experiencing a strange problem that nobody else seems to have seen before. That, or nobody noticed my posts here:
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As mentioned in this thread, some shipments of the TyTN II have faulty hardware with broken 3G support.
No patch or driver update can fix this because it is a hardware problem. I experienced exactly the same issue with my first TyTN II and finally replaced it with a new device which works flawlessly out of the box.
I believe you should also better get your device replaced if you ever want to use 3G.

Can you keep us posted on what happens when it comes back? If it's really a hardware problem, many inquiring minds would love to know.
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Yes of course !

Well, 4 days to receive my phone !!
and they have changed :
_motherboard
_antenna
and MAJ rom and radio
Version de ROM : 1.56.163.8 ===> 1.56.163.9
Date de ROM : 09/04/07 ===> 10/15/07
Version de radio : 1.27.12.11 ===> 1.27.12.32
Version de protocole : 22.45.88.07H ===> not changed

are you saying you have gotten your phone back? is it working now?

Losing data connection (NOT wifi but HSPDA, EDGE...)

This is about all the data connection through the MOBILE provider, so not WIFI.
It is after x time when the phone is on. Maybe it is GPS related.
But bottomnline: the icon with the H or the E(dge) is there and it is even flashing for data, however every app stats there is no connection to the network.
After a reboot all is fine.
Other persons are also experiencing this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=675786&highlight=huuub
I am using cyanogens latest with one of pershoots latest, but other kernels show the same behaviour.
My guess is that everyone has this problem? Is this a bug somewhere?

This happensto mine as well. I just switch in and out of flight mode to fix it.
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So why make a new thread if you've already found one that fits your problem?

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This happensto mine as well. I just switch in and out of flight mode to fix it.
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this solution is not working for me.. i have the same problem as well..

Dis happend to me .. go to settings, wireless settings, mobile networs, nd denn go to network operator nd choose automatic
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I did that already, did not work . Are we the only one having this problem

Which radio are you using?

EPE54B
32.26.00.24U_4.04.00.03_2
Kernel : 2.6.33.3-cyanogenmod [email protected] #2
gr,
J

This is a carrier issue. Not the Rom. trust me.

I have not that impression. Why do you?

nixxofugi said:
This is a carrier issue. Not the Rom. trust me.
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Oh, ok, I should trust you. If you hadn't told me to trust you, I wouldn't have, but now that you did tell me, I do.
I think it's a software issue, as do many other people. Never had this problem with tmobile on any other phone.
Oh, I almost forgot: trust me.

Does anyone here notice it seems to get lost after leaving a wifi connection? Like this bug?
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2207

I have the same problem, im using modaco CM mod 5.0.6
I don't remember to have this problem with modaco desire/nexus Rom
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I've experienced this more frequently on Cyanogen roms vs. Modaco's.

really a bug ?
ok guys, I am completely in a stock 2.1 rom .. no mods whatsoever and not rooted as well .. to get this problem, use wi-fi for a while(5mins example) and then disable it .. then use ur gprs/edge and see if it works.. the small E logo will show and the upstream arrow will glow white but downstream arrow will stay dark gray.. both should glow white when accessing the net but it doesn't after using wi fi .. this is really pissing me off having to restart my phone everytime this happens and I use both wi fi and gprs for everyday use .. can someone check to see if this problem is persistent ? thanks ..

Juicedefender is the cause
Ok, I figured out what was causing these problems. And I found out that after uninstaling Juicedefender my Cell connection returns. Anyway Juicedefender didn't seem to do so much for me anyway. (on the contrary I believe)
Can anybody confirm?

Vodafone NL + Custom roms Incredible S

Hi Peeps,
Can some explain to me why al the non sense custom roms won't have a internet connection with this device and vodafone NL?
I would really like to find a fix for this problem. I quote the maker of the cyanogenmod rom.
"I think part of the problem is the RIL we are using."
Could someone help me get this fixed?
thanx!

freddyemmer said:
Hi Peeps,
Can some explain to me why al the non sense custom roms won't have a internet connection with this device and vodafone NL?
I would really like to find a fix for this problem. I quote the maker of the cyanogenmod rom.
"I think part of the problem is the RIL we are using."
Could someone help me get this fixed?
thanx!
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Good, then I am not the only one
I really want to use MIUI but the because it wont give me a data connection (3g,H,etc.) stops me from using it further
I checked the "Monitor" app pre-installed with MIUI, and changed some settings with the firewall and the statusbar displayed a 3G icon, but it still didnt work.

Curiously, does it work for other people running MIUI/CM7 on different phones who are on Vodafone NL? I'm trying to understand if it's the radio or something that stock Android doesn't have that Sense/other providers do have. I am pretty sure it would work even if you install ARHD and run the no sense script.
I don't think it's the sense. It's either the radio, ROM kernel (?) or some other config in stock that MIUI/CM7 are picking up that Sense might have overwritten.
It's interesting, really
Works fine for me on Vodafone India but yeah, that doesn't help you

Only one thing to add, Vodafone NL comes in 2 variations: Vodafone NL and Vodafone NL Business which uses a different APN. For me Vodafone NL has not worked on CM7 but Vodafone NL Business does work (due to the SIM having corporate contract I guess)

Hi john,
Thanx for looking into it, i have tried different radio's and roms. Its not the card itself because it works flaweless in the htc legend with cm7.
It must be something that connects the radio with the software.. the developer of cyanogenmod for the incredible S was talking about the RIL (Radio Interface Layer)
cince it's not only a CM 7 problem i guess it has to do with something all the rommakers are using.

serious *yawn* as i mentioned like dozens of time yes it is the ril and yes there is a version from cm for the vodafone nl users, ask attn1 (and no they dont know what it is or how it should be fixxed atm)
end of discussion

lol relax dude, i don't own a incredible S that long and couldn't find anything about it on XDA... After that i asked another dutch users but he didn't know why it was not working..
I created this topic so new users like me can find a answer why a custom rom is not working on their phone at this moment. Hopefully they will crack it.

it's okey problem is most people dont do the research and just start asking, but no biggy...
just do what ive told you before, im sure attn1 is willing to help when he has the time

This problem with the RIL is this just vodafone blocking some RIL or is er a functional problem with this RIL and the vodafone carrier?
I don't know what to do, i would realy like to use a miu of cm rom without the sense.
Can anyone give me a hand? or a push in the right direction?

its the ril that has an issue with vodafone duhh...
its like i said before there is an version from cm that works with it...
so yes other roms are possible also, how? erhm... read back...

sorry for asking but i can't find that build of CM7 not on their website nor on XDA Developers. I just want to know what to do myself to rebuild a rom and make the appropiate changes to the RIL so it wil work.

contact attn1 mate

i have did that multiple times but i get no responsse of attn1

i'll upload some this weekend (not 100% sure which one was it but im sure you can test that out ), i currently switched to kpn cause of some connection problems i was having where im stationed...

finally got time to work on this issue
latest cm7 nightlies (#95) should restore support for this kind of sim
let me know if it work

Kali- said:
finally got time to work on this issue
latest cm7 nightlies (#95) should restore support for this kind of sim
let me know if it work
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It works! You're a hero, finally CM on my IncS

Everytime i'm moving in The Hague, i lose my GSM and 3g signal.
Is that a known problem?? I am using Android Revolution HD 1.1.7
To get my signal back i have to go to airplane mode and then log in again with my pin.....

I have this issue on many custom roms on telus too.
how can you flash a new ril?

I'm dealing with the same error. the newest cm7 works fine. The revolution roms as well. (BTW I haven't noticed any issues in the Hague. as soon as 3g dropped all my colleague's 3g dropped as well on their Iphones.)
Unfortunately mobile network isn't working on most of the fancy 3.5 sense roms.
I posted about the vodafone issue in one of the sense 3.5 threads and got this reply as solution. Could anyone confirm whether these steps solved the problem?
ibrahimh said:
@nagoo
Found this might help you
This is actually simple to fix. My girlfriends phone was doing this a bit ago. After a bit of tinkering I found this to work. 1. Shut down your phone 2. Carefully remove the battery cover and battery from the phone. 3. Using a toothpick or something similar, depress the clip holding the Verizon/vodafone sim card in place and remove the card. 4. Replace your battery and turn the phone back on. 5. Wait about a minute, the phone may display a message saying somehting along the lines of "no sim card found, switching to CDMA" or something similar. 6. Turn the phone back off, remove the battery and replace the sim card 7. Completely re-assemble the phone and turn it back on. 8. Your phone should now show that you have Verizon as your carrier and all your phones functions should be restored.
Hope this works as well for you guys as it did for me.
I assume this is some sort of error with the phone recognizing which network is its default carrier. I also assume that verizon has some ort of deal with vodafone, a carrier in the Netherlands, that allows some of there phones to access vodafones gsm network if the verizon customer happens to be travelling. That would explain why they have a vodafone sim card in some of these phones. from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
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nagoo said:
I'm dealing with the same error. the newest cm7 works fine. The revolution roms as well. (BTW I haven't noticed any issues in the Hague. as soon as 3g dropped all my colleague's 3g dropped as well on their Iphones.)
Unfortunately mobile network isn't working on most of the fancy 3.5 sense roms.
I posted about the vodafone issue in one of the sense 3.5 threads and got this reply as solution. Could anyone confirm whether these steps solved the problem?
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i am on Vodafone Egypt and i have the same problem and i tried this fix and doesn't work
some one help me

[Q] When I turn wifi off, Note does not connect to 3G or HSDPA

Hi guys,
I have this strange problem, it even seems random.
After I turn wifi off, my Note does not connect to 3g anymore.
And I have to reboot the phone to get it working again.
Does anyone experience the same problem, or knows a sollution?
I rooted KK1 and flashed LA4 using Mobile Odin.
Cheers,
Daan

I've had this problem once, but it worked again after a reboot. Haven't experienced it again. It happened on KK5, but i flashed LA4 yesterday, so it's too early to tell if it will happen again.
It also happened on my Desire HD with MIUI and also while running CM7, so it might turn out to be a bug in Android.

I guess you had turned/switched off data network mode by pressing and holding the turn off button for two seconds.
Try and turn it off and see if it is the same symptom that you had before.
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m2b999 said:
I guess you had turned/switched off data network mode by pressing and holding the turn off button for two seconds.
Try and turn it off and see if it is the same symptom that you had before.
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No, this is not the issue.

I manually set the APN settings for Telfort, removing MMS and setting it up for "internet" only.
Did a wifi on/off cycle, with a short interval and it seems to work.
Going to test with a longer interval. Not completely convinced yet.
Hope it's fixed.
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On wifi for half an hour, turned it off and [email protected]#$% 3g does not connect anymore.
Maybe it's just Telfort. They don't have the Note listed on their website, but still.

My infuse 4g does this. I have to put it in airplane mode then back to get my data to reconnect. It did this stock and on serindipity 7. I couldn't find a fix either.

Goneeuro said:
My infuse 4g does this. I have to put it in airplane mode then back to get my data to reconnect. It did this stock and on serindipity 7. I couldn't find a fix either.
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Annoying stuff! Cycling airplane mode does not work for me, only a full reboot.
But if you had the problem too, It could be that it's the network's (in my case Telfort's) problem.
Maybe I have to get my sim replaced, but I'm switching to T-Mobile in about a month.
So it's a bit of a pain.

I am currently using the infuse on o2 in Germany, but it did it on att in the states also. I can't wait to get my note. I am just waiting for it to be released on o2 over here. They have the black but I really want a white one.

Goneeuro said:
I am currently using the infuse on o2 in Germany, but it did it on att in the states also. I can't wait to get my note. I am just waiting for it to be released on o2 over here. They have the black but I really want a white one.
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Telfort used to be O2, it has been using KPN's network for a while now.
So it's probably not connected. Though it is a strange coincidence.
I'm off today, I think I'll walk by the Telfort store to ask for a new sim or something.
Maybe they'll have to flip a switch somewhere.

DaanJordaan said:
Telfort used to be O2, it has been using KPN's network for a while now.
So it's probably not connected. Though it is a strange coincidence.
I'm off today, I think I'll walk by the Telfort store to ask for a new sim or something.
Maybe they'll have to flip a switch somewhere.
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Did u try keeping network mode in "WCDMA Only" ??

DaanJordaan said:
Telfort used to be O2, it has been using KPN's network for a while now.
So it's probably not connected. Though it is a strange coincidence.
I'm off today, I think I'll walk by the Telfort store to ask for a new sim or something.
Maybe they'll have to flip a switch somewhere.
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what i think is..i had dis problem too...
if minor tweaks dnt work...format yr phone..n if it still aint working
change your firmware...
still nt working den i would blame the network..!!

ranjan.alva said:
Did u try keeping network mode in "WCDMA Only" ??
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Thanks for the reply, yes I tried it. Did not work sadly
drashish36 said:
what i think is..i had dis problem too...
if minor tweaks dnt work...format yr phone..n if it still aint working
change your firmware...
still nt working den i would blame the network..!!
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Yeah you're right, I have to troubleshoot properly. But it's such a pain
And I think I recall having this problem a few roms back as well.
I'm not sure because I was on wifi all the time.
But I have to wipe, I'll use titanium backup so it won't be such a hard blow
Man I'm going to pissed if it turns out to be the network

DaanJordaan said:
Thanks for the reply, yes I tried it. Did not work sadly
Yeah you're right, I have to troubleshoot properly. But it's such a pain
And I think I recall having this problem a few roms back as well.
I'm not sure because I was on wifi all the time.
But I have to wipe, I'll use titanium backup so it won't be such a hard blow
Man I'm going to pissed if it turns out to be the network
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Thats a pain i was so tired of formating,..reformatting....coz many custom firmware have some error and new updates keep coming almost daily...and all ask to wipe for best experience..dat was when i finally decided to come bk to stock and stick to it...
yeah it doesnt hav those fancy colors and throbbing speed which a custom rom boosts about but...but hey everythin works flawlessly and i dnt have any tension of random reboots and alarm not ringing..or any smartphone related error to comeup...plus all my apps and schedule is there forever no reinstalling tension....enjoying my phone....

Okay, so I I did a full wipe and installed a deodexed rooted LA4.
I still have this issue.
Also tested on KK1 stock and still experienced this issue.
If it does this on KK1 and LA4 it's reason enough for me to believe it's the network.
I'll just wait for my T-Mobile plan to start. Meh.
edit: It seems to work just fine on CM9 :-/

Losing 3G Mobile Network on certain location

Hi Experts out there,
I have been having 3G mobile network issue with CM7 base ROM. On certain location, I cannot download and make or receive calls. my 3G icon arrows show upload activities but no download happening. My ISP name (Maxis Malaysia) showing as normal. I upgraded to CM7.2, tried Kang ROM, preshoot kernel and change new SIM card but doesn't help.
Disable and Enable the 2G only a few times might resolve the problem for a while. The may come back again as long as I am still at the same locations.
Anyone has any ideas on this problem? ROM or Kernel issue? Recommendations on solutions? Thank you.
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permai said:
Hi Experts out there,
I have been having 3G mobile network issue with CM7 base ROM. On certain location, I cannot download and make or receive calls. my 3G icon arrows show upload activities but no download happening. My ISP name (Maxis Malaysia) showing as normal. I upgraded to CM7.2, tried Kang ROM, preshoot kernel and change new SIM card but doesn't help.
Disable and Enable the 2G only a few times might resolve the problem for a while. The may come back again as long as I am still at the same locations.
Anyone has any ideas on this problem? ROM or Kernel issue? Recommendations on solutions? Thank you.
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It's not the phone. It's signal coverage that you're having problem. Try another location and see if that helps.

I have been getting full bar signal strength on the icon. If connected (after a few tries of enable / dissable 2G only), the connection will be good for a while (some time quite ok for hour). The connection on 2G is 100% stable and reliable. If 3G is weak, it should automatically switch to 2G without issue right?
Thank you for the reply.
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No. The problem could be with internet access of the specific UMTS base station that you're connecting to at that spot, and not with the connectivity between your phone and the tower. In any case, it's not your phone, it's the base station, and there's nothing you can do but complain to your cellular carrier.

I have checked with friends (iPhone, Android, BB,etc) surrounding me on the same location, no one is complaining the same problem. That lead me to confirm that its my N1. The worst part is I cannot make or receive calls. I have been missing many important calls...
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permai said:
I have checked with friends (iPhone, Android, BB,etc) surrounding me on the same location, no one is complaining the same problem. That lead me to confirm that its my N1. The worst part is I cannot make or receive calls. I have been missing many important calls...
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When did you have this problem? After or before you updated to the latest version of CM7.2? If after then I suggest you do a full wipe and format system and then reflash the ROM. Or you could try to flash a standalone kernel and see if that helps.

I have been having this problem foe
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I have been having this problem for many months. Since I rooted my N1 using CM 7.1.
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permai said:
I have been having this problem for many months. Since I rooted my N1 using CM 7.1.
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Another option would be to flash a different radio. Try to read the radio section on Nexus One thread for more information

I just flash MIUI ROM and will put it to test tomorrow. Hopefully it will be fine. If not, will try to flash different radio. Thank you for all the replies.
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Here's a couple solutions:
1) Go to settings>wireless>mobile networks >access point names. Look and see if an option called "Simple" is ticked. If it is, tick your network name instead of Simple. For example, for me, I have T-Mobile; so I have T-Mo ticked and not Simple.
2) Try flashing a new radio or ROM. I highly doubt this is your problem but it is worth a try. Try the .08 version radio or the .12, whichever you don't have.
3) Go to your carrier's store and see if you can get a replacement SIM card. I did this once and they gave me one for free. Just say you are having connection problems and you think your SIM is cutting out. My N1 once fried a SIM card. Just re-read post and seen that you did this. I would highly suggest you try my first option as I had a very similar problem and solved it that way.

Closed Source Project said:
Here's a couple solutions:
1) Go to settings>wireless>mobile networks >access point names. Look and see if an option called "Simple" is ticked. If it is, tick your network name instead of Simple. For example, for me, I have T-Mobile; so I have T-Mo ticked and not Simple.
2) Try flashing a new radio or ROM. I highly doubt this is your problem but it is worth a try. Try the .08 version radio or the .12, whichever you don't have.
3) Go to your carrier's store and see if you can get a replacement SIM card. I did this once and they gave me one for free. Just say you are having connection problems and you think your SIM is cutting out. My N1 once fried a SIM card. Just re-read post and seen that you did this. I would highly suggest you try my first option as I had a very similar problem and solved it that way.
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SORRY IM HAPPY CAUSE THIS DOES WORK EVERYTIME DANG T-MOBILE GET AT&T TOWERS btw HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE leave me a egg

I have tried MIUI ROM and latest Radio (5.12) for passed few days. The problem still remain.
The new radio giving more stable 3G connection many locations but lost 3G connection on the previous problematic locations.
Really not sure what to do with it now. I have tried everything that is known on the web.
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There's nothing you can do. It's between your phone and local base station.
You didn't listen to me earlier, I guess now you will.

It is sad that nothing can be done. The phone should at least switch to 2G when 3G is not available, but my N1 stuck there causing me loosing voice and SMS capabilities. This is fundamentally wrong on the phone.
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