[Q] Dead simple question to those in the know... - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This has obviously been asked before I'm sure but I've got 2 questions really...
1. In a nutshell, what is the difference between the Original Android Development and Android Development sections? I don't understand that...
2. Does a Custom ROM exist that's running a newer version of Android than the official 4.1.2 (i.e. 4.2.2 or 4.3?) but heres the catch... With all the samsung bells and whistles thrown in i.e. SNote stuff and that handy Stylus AirView tool? etc... All the Roms i've seen that include them are the 4.1.2 stuff...
Cheers, Adam.

API182 said:
This has obviously been asked before I'm sure but I've got 2 questions really...
1. In a nutshell, what is the difference between the Original Android Development and Android Development sections? I don't understand that...
2. Does a Custom ROM exist that's running a newer version of Android than the official 4.1.2 (i.e. 4.2.2 or 4.3?) but heres the catch... With all the samsung bells and whistles thrown in i.e. SNote stuff and that handy Stylus AirView tool? etc... All the Roms i've seen that include them are the 4.1.2 stuff...
Cheers, Adam.
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1. Original android development are roms and kernels built solely from Google source files from the ground up. Android development are roms built on the original android development rom platforms, so the original roms with mods written in.
2. I think chasmodo has written a 4.3 rom, not sure what base it is or where it is though.
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[Q] Stock Android

Hi guys,
I am really interested in figuring out the steps that should be followed in order to compile a stock android rom for i9000.
I find the phone amazing but really hate touchwiz and all samsung's applications.
Thanks in advance
compile a stock android rom for i9000.
Stock as in stock rom supplied by Samsung or do you mean a Custom Rom .
Custom roms are in the development section as are the guys that build them .
jje
JJEgan said:
compile a stock android rom for i9000.
Stock as in stock rom supplied by Samsung or do you mean a Custom Rom .
Custom roms are in the development section as are the guys that build them .
jje
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I meant vanilla android, i am aware of resources where you can find stock samsung compilations (namely samfirmware -sorry but as a new user i cannot post links- although there's also an updated list in a thread somewhere in xda forums) and i also follow some of the custom made roms (currently i'm using Darky's v9.3).
I would like to get to know how to get my custom rom compiled and packged so i9000 can load it, the reason: i really dislike samsungs additions to android (touchwiz) and i haven't found a custom rom similar to what i am seeking.
For the first steps i suppose i should grab the code from aosp but i just don't know if i need some drivers (i suspect i do), and if so... where can i get these?
Then... once all that stuff is compiled, what are the steps that should be followed to make the compiled image flasheable?
Thanks.
I really thought that the custom ROMS in the dev section could be built as custom as you like via the kitchen. First take the bare Android 2.2.1 JPY/JS5 system and add the Gingerbread launcher as well as the market then off you go. Can't get anymore vanilla than that ?

[Q] Kernel/Rom Selection & Me

So I ordered a Galaxy Note 1 yesterday, and i am pretty sure I wanna root& put a custom rom on it.
Right now, i tried to find the right rom for me, which turns out to not be that easy, since there seem to be many good roms &kernel combination
Its simply not "clear" which one is the best, nor is there a comparison table or anything that would help a noob to know about advantages of different roms without actually trying them.
I read many threads, but I found out that there are a lot of fans of all those roms, so that i am not able to decide what to choose...
Maybe you could give me a hint, which rom/kernel is nice for my needs which are the following:
1) I would like to use "google now" since i like to test voice assistance
2) I am exited about project butter, since i want a very fluid/smooth feel when swiping homescreens, also want this "animation" when swiping through screens like with the s3
3) I want this s3 typical live wallpaper with those waterdrop effects (has nothing to do with the rom, does it? )
4) I want to use the pen and those apps (at least until I find out i dont use it as often as i think...) so I would like to have the galaxy note 2 experience on my galaxy note, speaking newest Touchwiz ?! (since i think some pen functionality get lost when using some roms..)
5) I saw there are roms, which support this tablet/hybrid more, so you can select for each app if you want it in tablet or smartphone view, i like that very much, would be cool to have it!
6) I am noob at all this, but whatever you suggest, I will read into it and spend a lot of time doing it the right way or as you say and succeed with it
7) I like easy upgrade mechanics, so if there is something new out for this type of rom, it would be cool to be able to update this from my phone without the initial tools needed to get root/flash/custom rom it (dont know if this is even possible)
8) German language support would be a nice to have, but not a must have...
Based on those needs, which combination would you suggest to me kernel/rom wise?
Advice is very very appreciated!
Regards, James
JamesBrooooks said:
1) I would like to use "google now" since i like to test voice assistance
2) I am exited about project butter, since i want a very fluid/smooth feel when swiping homescreens, also want this "animation" when swiping through screens like with the s3
3) I want this s3 typical live wallpaper with those waterdrop effects (has nothing to do with the rom, does it? )
4) I want to use the pen and those apps (at least until I find out i dont use it as often as i think...) so I would like to have the galaxy note 2 experience on my galaxy note, speaking newest Touchwiz ?! (since i think some pen functionality get lost when using some roms..)
5) I saw there are roms, which support this tablet/hybrid more, so you can select for each app if you want it in tablet or smartphone view, i like that very much, would be cool to have it!
6) I am noob at all this, but whatever you suggest, I will read into it and spend a lot of time doing it the right way or as you say and succeed with it
7) I like easy upgrade mechanics, so if there is something new out for this type of rom, it would be cool to be able to update this from my phone without the initial tools needed to get root/flash/custom rom it (dont know if this is even possible)
8) German language support would be a nice to have, but not a must have...
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There are mods to get google now on any rom but i guess project butter can be experienced only on jb
You can get all spen apps on tw based custom roms and some apps are available on non-tw based roms but not all
There are many cm roms that support tablet mods like paranoid android
And on any rom,the best kernel is hydracore..Its an universal kernel and can be flashed on any rom
I'd say the best for you is stock Samsung JB (Android 4.1.1).
kopitalk said:
I'd say the best for you is stock Samsung JB (Android 4.1.1).
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You are right but....Stock jb rom is not yet released for note
it should be here in a months time I hope
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rajsekhar.300 said:
There are mods to get google now on any rom but i guess project butter can be experienced only on jb
You can get all spen apps on tw based custom roms and some apps are available on non-tw based roms but not all
There are many cm roms that support tablet mods like paranoid android
And on any rom,the best kernel is hydracore..Its an universal kernel and can be flashed on any rom
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Thanks rajsekhar!
So lets say I would use hydracore and as a rom i have tot decide between a tw rom and paranoid android rom.
1) In the hydracore thread its seems that gavin the main developer is stopping his work, does this mean i should not use his kernel? Or does he have something "finished" released? Like completly without bugs, that can be used for the next year or so?!
He said in his thread:
If CM and AOSP type roms continue down this path then unfortunatly Hydra will be coming to an end.
So, on this note, when v6.1 final is released on friday (still more testing to do) i think I shall be calling it a day and cease all development activities for the Note.
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If I should not use this Kernel because of this, which alternative is there?
2) If you suggest the paranoid android rom, you mean i should stick to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871713 ,right?
3) I cannot find the thread for the TW based-ROM do they also have a thread in this forum?!
Thanks so far, and in advance!
hydra core 5.4 is quite good,
nickyleon said:
hydra core 5.4 is quite good,
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Ok, so I will pick hydra core 5.4, without OC.
Is there a touchwiz rom based on jelly bean yet?!I have not found any,...
If there is non, i have to decide to use touchwiz & 4.0.4 OR no touchwiz but 4.1 jelly bean, right?!
So i will try to install the paranoid android rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797698
In this Thread its stated that I should make sure to run CM9 before I try to flash this ROM to avoid a brick, so I guess I have to do something else before...
To be honest, I feel a little bit helpless with all those FAQ´s which Link to other threads which include further FAQ, there is no clean way to follow even after reading all those threads...
What I have done so far is:
- have donwloaded the correct hydracore v5.4 kernel
- downloaded samsung USB driver and installed it
- downloaded "gapps-jb-20120726-signed.zip"
- downloaded "pa_n7000-2.17-04OCT2012-130953.zip"
- downloaded odin v1.85
So with the aim of using hydracore 5.4 with paranoid android on it, and I expect gb on my note when i receive it today:
What are the steps to take?!
Help would be very much appreciated!
JamesBrooooks said:
Ok, so I will pick hydra core 5.4, without OC.
Is there a touchwiz rom based on jelly bean yet?!I have not found any,...
If there is non, i have to decide to use touchwiz & 4.0.4 OR no touchwiz but 4.1 jelly bean, right?!
So i will try to install the paranoid android rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797698
In this Thread its stated that I should make sure to run CM9 before I try to flash this ROM to avoid a brick, so I guess I have to do something else before...
To be honest, I feel a little bit helpless with all those FAQ´s which Link to other threads which include further FAQ, there is no clean way to follow even after reading all those threads...
What I have done so far is:
- have donwloaded the correct hydracore v5.4 kernel
- downloaded samsung USB driver and installed it
- downloaded "gapps-jb-20120726-signed.zip"
- downloaded "pa_n7000-2.17-04OCT2012-130953.zip"
- downloaded odin v1.85
So with the aim of using hydracore 5.4 with paranoid android on it, and I expect gb on my note when i receive it today:
What are the steps to take?!
Help would be very much appreciated!
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There are no tw jb roms
If you were on gb and interested in stock 4.0.4,then go to settings<about phone<software update.Then you will be updated to 4.0.4 through ota
If you wish to flash paranoid android or any other rom,then follow this guide to get root and cwm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
Then flash the rom and gapps through cwm recovery
If you were on ics,then flash hydracore kernel using odin and then flash any rom through cwm
rajsekhar.300 said:
There are no tw jb roms
If you were on gb and interested in stock 4.0.4,then go to settings<about phone<software update.Then you will be updated to 4.0.4 through ota
If you wish to flash paranoid android or any other rom,then follow this guide to get root and cwm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
Then flash the rom and gapps through cwm recovery
If you were on ics,then flash hydracore kernel using odin and then flash any rom through cwm
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Yes, I guess i will first test stock 4.0.4 but at first sign of underperfomance / stuttering, i guess i will try to follow your linked guide!
Will 4.0.4 run faster if I would take a TW Rom from the forum? Or will I only get "butter smooth" feeling through Jelly Bean Roms? What are your experiences?
Thank you very much for your help
JamesBrooooks said:
Yes, I guess i will first test stock 4.0.4 but at first sign of underperfomance / stuttering, i guess i will try to follow your linked guide!
Will 4.0.4 run faster if I would take a TW Rom from the forum? Or will I only get "butter smooth" feeling through Jelly Bean Roms? What are your experiences?
Thank you very much for your help
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4.0.4 is stable and faster but i really dont like the tw interface and so i am on jb rom now..It runs fine and stable enough for me
But you need to experience both of hem to get a clear idea

[Q] 4.3 Update Ported to i9305

Hello XDA,i have a pretty neat idea about the new 4.3 update for i9300.What if someone let's say i try to port i9300's 4.3 update (Stock update) and make it a custom rom (or stock rom).Would that be possible?If yes,how?
PS:I mean by porting by bringing all the features for TouchWiz and things like that.I know there is CM 10.x for 4.3 but i'm not trying to stick to Classic google update,i enjoy the TouchWiz(not a fan,but i just like it more than Standard black menu and stuff).I remember from reading some posts that for porting you need to delete the FM Radio,CMDMA (or something like that),etc.I'm just curious why it doesn't port over i9305,don't flame me,i'm a newbie to development would be just like a tutorial for n00bs.
Stock update I9300 has been pulled due to problems .
Development tutorials etc you start in the Android Development Forum .
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Stock update I9300 has been pulled due to problems .
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I know,i'm asking something else.I'm asking what if we port the germany update+china kernel (i've read and they're the best combo) and port it over to i9305?
I think porting the Korean update would make much more sense - especially as the inverse port has already been done, as documented in a YouTube video. Perhaps adding light effect & other goodies from the new AT&T update (if the Korean one doesn't have them).
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.NetRolller 3D said:
I think porting the Korean update would make much more sense - especially as the inverse port has already been done, as documented in a YouTube video. Perhaps adding light effect & other goodies from the new AT&T update (if the Korean one doesn't have them).
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That would be amazingly great,though nobody would port it over.I don't know how,because i'm a user,not a dev,if i would learn i would've ported 4.2 by now even 4.3 .I've seen it's easy because you need to delete some stuff,so yeah.(I'm just saying,don't drop the bomb).

Why are there AOSP roms here

I thought this was the sub forum for stock/ stock-modded roms and 'original development' was for all other roms. What gives? Page one has at least 2 AOSP roms and an app mod for xposed. I'm only asking because it's been this way for weeks and it's not making much sense.
I was wondering the same
phantomzer0 said:
I thought this was the sub forum for stock/ stock-modded roms and 'original development' was for all other roms. What gives? Page one has at least 2 AOSP roms and an app mod for xposed. I'm only asking because it's been this way for weeks and it's not making much sense.
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Original Android development is supposed to be for roms built from source code and android development is for roms not built from original source.
It has nothing to do with AOSP or Sense really, but still there's a lot of roms that aren't in exactly the right category and some of that is because we are taking items with lots of grey components and forcing them to be black or white so to speak. But that's the idea behind the concept when it was formed.
And due to it being sense, which is closed source proprietary, kernel excluded, it means that it's a lot harder to make the argument that a sense rom should be in original development, whereas with AOSP roms they will be in both. There have been device sections though where sense roms have been in original development, usually it was one or two major roms with a lot of custom source or a bunch of custom java and tweaks added, and then in android development it was just roms with minor changes and tweaks that were borrowed.
???
No disrespect but who cares as long as development is happening, some devices have no development at all, so just enjoy having variety my friend.
Why is there a question in the Dev section? Lol, you've got your answer. Now who is gonna answer my question. ?
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Because ROMs in this section are either sense based or OEM from HTC or Google meaning the bugs and other issues you get from AOSP roms shouldn't be found in roms you install from this sub forum. It can get confusing quickly if there are two different sub forums with essentially the same material. I wasn't asking out of malice, I was more trying to understand what was going on lately so I can browse appropriately. I got my answer. /thread. Thanks Charles!
Moderator update,
Thread moved to Q&A as we do not allow question threads in the development forums.
Now to answer your question, which is a good question. There are certain OSAP Roms in the AD forum for the following reasons.
Original development is just that. It is what makes the rom original. This applies to both sense and OSAP Roms. For an example of a sense rom that could be in original development is the venom rom. They have so much code in the rom that is original it makes it different from the rom it was built from.
In terms of OSAP Roms simply building it from source does not make it original. It needs extra code to make it original. Eg official CM Roms are original because of this, an unofficial build is not original so does not belong in OG so goes into AD.
So to sum up. Simply building a rom or kernel does not qualify for OD. It is the amount of original code that the developer has added to the base rom that determines which section the rom goes in.
Sorry for the long post hope it clears things up. Let me know if you need any more info.
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Best Rom for Android ?

Well, Today I've fixed my phone ? And know Im running on CWM 12 Nightly & Im just wondering whats the best Custom Rom you have right now or Had ?
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Well, first & foremost, we have Q&A forums here on the site for such questions. Second, these "best ROM" threads are always subjective. Every single user has likes and dislikes. Some users prefer AOSP, while other users prefer Sense (HTC devices), Touchwiz (Samsung devices) and the like, based on their needs & uses. Personally, I've always owned HTC devices and while I do like AOSP and ROM's like CyanogenMod, I always end up back with Sense-based ROM's because of the features that Sense ROM's have that I lose with AOSP. Having said all that, this thread is closed.

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