I prefer CM or Vanilla based roms and I don't need Blinkfeed or Zoe. However, I do want the camera to take pictures like the stock does. I read, and from what I understand, GE ROM's do not use the full 4ultrapixel camera. ARHD looks cool and so does Excelsus One.
Thanks for your help.
slypenguin0 said:
I prefer CM or Vanilla based roms and I don't need Blinkfeed or Zoe. However, I do want the camera to take pictures like the stock does. I read, and from what I understand, GE ROM's do not use the full 4ultrapixel camera. ARHD looks cool and so does Excelsus One.
Thanks for your help.
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your point? i assume you want the sense camera but CM style rom. your best option is to use a sense rom and just use a aftermarket launcher? lols...
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your point? i assume you want the sense camera but CM style rom. your best option is to use a sense rom and just use a aftermarket launcher? lols...
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I just wasn't sure if I was incorrect in my understanding that CM or GE/Vanilla roms had lower quality pictures. I don't need all the fancy effects. The HTC One S didn't use the onboard picture chip when you used vanilla roms. Was wondering if it was still the case.
Thanks for your response.
slypenguin0 said:
I just wasn't sure if I was incorrect in my understanding that CM or GE/Vanilla roms had lower quality pictures. I don't need all the fancy effects. The HTC One S didn't use the onboard picture chip when you used vanilla roms. Was wondering if it was still the case.
Thanks for your response.
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No one said the vanilla roms had lower quality pictures. both the same to me. youll just loose the extra settings the sense camera had
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when the nexus s was released i was a god send for galaxy s devs because they had all they stuff they need (source) to have a very good implementation of cm7
when the galaxy s2 was released it was hell for devs they ended up signing a petition with +10000 signatures just to get the kernel source and that took them over 6 months or so (as far as i can remember )
now with the HTC one almost as the same as the nexus 4's hardware , no ?
are there big architectural changes?
could they use stuff from the nexus 4 to make cm10.1 work flawlessly ?
The hardware of the n4 and the one are very very very different , so it won't benefit from the n4.
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Why did you think a HTC built phone would benefit from a LG built phone.
The soc isnt even in the same Series Never mind all the camera changes. There nothing alike
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An open SoC from QC is a step in the right direction, however sense kernels are quite different from those needed for CM/AOSP roms, so it's unlikely it will be perfect. The HOX still has niggles with CM today because some of the blobs just don't play along with non-sense roms.
These days if you want decent CM, I think you just need to buy a Nexus. If only the N4 were better I'd buy one...
Currently tossing up between this phone and the Xperia Z, if I get this it'll be under the mindset that i'll probably be running sense on it forever (annoyingly).
M.
what is the difference between sense based roms vs aosp based roms? i've seen some sense based ones that have the same UI as CM10 etc.
CursiveQ said:
what is the difference between sense based roms vs aosp based roms? i've seen some sense based ones that have the same UI as CM10 etc.
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It's personal preference. CM10 roms are typically alot smaller and tend to use less ram so can aid device performance. Some people also just like running a rom like they would get on a nexus. Of course this all depends on CM10/10.1 being decent on the phone.. if it doesn't work well because of sense kernels, then it's not really worth it.
If you want to run excellent CM roms, I would suggest waiting until kernel sources are out and see what devs can do, or just buy a nexus (though there's no nexus as good as the One).
i'm currently running aokp on my One X. the only real reason i flash roms is so i can have the status bar, settings, dialer, phonebook etc look like stock android.
is it possible to have a sense based rom that will be skinned to look like stock android? with the status bar, settings, dialer and all that jazz?
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i'm currently running aokp on my One X. the only real reason i flash roms is so i can have the status bar, settings, dialer, phonebook etc look like stock android.
is it possible to have a sense based rom that will be skinned to look like stock android? with the status bar, settings, dialer and all that jazz?
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Not completely skinned, no. Dialler is the hardest part IMO as there's no custom dialler that looks like the stock one does. It's actually the thing I miss most when running sense.
M.
mattman83 said:
Not completely skinned, no. Dialler is the hardest part IMO as there's no custom dialler that looks like the stock one does. It's actually the thing I miss most when running sense.
M.
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ah.. bummer. i really hated the sense dialer
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Not completely skinned, no. Dialler is the hardest part IMO as there's no custom dialler that looks like the stock one does. It's actually the thing I miss most when running sense.
M.
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I would disagree with that to a point. I've used sense ROMs where, when you push AOSP contacts.apk to /system/app, you get get AOSP dialer and contacts. Same with mail is possible, if I remember correctly. I've even seen the AOSP settings used in sense (though, it may have been just themed that way) in jellybomb domination ROM. I forget exactly, it's been a while. I run just AOKP or PACman on my Evo lte. I buy HTC for the hardware, not the software. But, sense 5 is intriguing and seems to resemble AOSP more than in the past, but with the blink feed and Zoe (which is what I do find intriguing).
From my Evo LTE, yup.
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what is the difference between sense based roms vs aosp based roms? i've seen some sense based ones that have the same UI as CM10 etc.
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in cm your're guaranteed to miss out on some key features. For instance, with the HTC EVO 4g LTE (and the one x and all its variants as far as i know), CM cannot incorporate the sense based cameras into the rom, so your're really getting something like 70% of the image quality because nobody's been able to figure out how to use the separate, Sense-designated optics hardware with an aosp rom. You're obviously missing out on hmdi/mhl out so forget about connecting to your tv. There are issues with using mass storage from sdcard (probably not going to be a problem here though), amongst others.
CM is on the other hand, generally more customizable and smoother to run than sense based roms, but there are some sense roms (like VIPER 4G 3.X) that are imo right on par with CMX when it comes to great custom experience yet do not omit important hardware features.
It's the sense camera really that much better then the cm/aosp camera? Opinions?
Sense will be that much better cos it interacts with ImageSense and has software to make full use of it. AOSP will have to create their own drivers to make the camera work at all. Should AOSP ever produce super awesome camera drivers, then I would expect it to at least match the Sense camera
As of right now Sense camera destroys AOSP camera, due to software.
Syn Ack said:
As of right now Sense camera destroys AOSP camera, due to software.
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Yes I just went back to a sense Rom because of it. was really just wondering some of your opinions. I've heard from some that there's really not that much of a difference but it's pretty easily noticed.well hopefully they'll release a pure Google version and we'll be able to steal the drivers from that.
chriselmore said:
Yes I just went back to a sense Rom because of it. was really just wondering some of your opinions. I've heard from some that there's really not that much of a difference but it's pretty easily noticed.well hopefully they'll release a pure Google version and we'll be able to steal the drivers from that.
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A pure Google version would probably only have basic drivers to ImageSense. If the device supports ImageSense, that means the drivers will have to go open sourced as well. Not sure how much HTC wants that to happen though.
Sense camera is better then AOSP camera.
Not for the zoe etc, but for the software and the ui
Hi there,
I installed the Kitkat RUU on my Htc One. The ROM itself is very smooth, but I have one very big problem: The Android stock camera takes quite bad photos. As long as I'm just focussing, the picture quality is as fine as always. But when I actually take the photo, the quality is very bad. This happens to front and rear camera. I already tried Camera ZOOM FX, but I also have other problems with this app. I already tried to change the settings in both applications, but I can't get as sharp pictures as before. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
OdlG
Happens to me too, guess its because of GPE. Tried a 4.4 sense rom (on insertcoin you can choose to install the AOSP camera) and well, guess what happened? on both cameras (sense / AOSP) the quality is way better. Thats why i propably go to a sense rom. I dont really care about the GPE features (well, whats the most important? ART? the new dialer?.. well, art is broken and new dialer.. to be honest, when i call a number i know who i call, i dont need such stuff).
So either MIUI or a 4.4 sense rom is my suggesstion
OdlG26 said:
Hi there,
I installed the Kitkat RUU on my Htc One. The ROM itself is very smooth, but I have one very big problem: The Android stock camera takes quite bad photos. As long as I'm just focussing, the picture quality is as fine as always. But when I actually take the photo, the quality is very bad. This happens to front and rear camera. I already tried Camera ZOOM FX, but I also have other problems with this app. I already tried to change the settings in both applications, but I can't get as sharp pictures as before. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
OdlG
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I use GPE it takes very good pictures.. even the purple noise with dark light is almost away with GPE 4.4 Stock Sense 4.3 can't provide this.. I used this RUU here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358781
kewkie said:
Happens to me too, guess its because of GPE. Tried a 4.4 sense rom (on insertcoin you can choose to install the AOSP camera) and well, guess what happened? on both cameras (sense / AOSP) the quality is way better. Thats why i propably go to a sense rom. I dont really care about the GPE features (well, whats the most important? ART? the new dialer?.. well, art is broken and new dialer.. to be honest, when i call a number i know who i call, i dont need such stuff).
So either MIUI or a 4.4 sense rom is my suggesstion
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I really dislike Sense though :/ And I would like to have a ROM with OTA support.
LibertyMarine said:
I use GPE it takes very good pictures.. even the purple noise with dark light is almost away with GPE 4.4 Stock Sense 4.3 can't provide this.. I used this RUU here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358781
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I use the same RUU. Bur for me, the image quality is pretty bad in comparison to the Stock Android 4.3 Sense ROM
OdlG26 said:
I really dislike Sense though :/ And I would like to have a ROM with OTA support.
I use the same RUU. Bur for me, the image quality is pretty bad in comparison to the Stock Android 4.3 Sense ROM
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the only difference I noticed that I have to wait a couple of seconds that the picture loads and I see it with full resolution
LibertyMarine said:
the only difference I noticed that I have to wait a couple of seconds that the picture loads and I see it with full resolution
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That's normal. That also happened on Stock Sense. And also on other Android devices.
tried both roms, GPE and Sense, and cannot see a difference
Hello guys,
i just looked a video about the htc ones slow motion function. I^ve tried it with the cyanogenmod 11 build in camera, but it crashes when i chose hdr and i cant find the slowmo function, so i`m looking for the htc ones stock camera app. Ive already tried to search it via google but without any results. Are there any possibilitys to install the 4.3 stock Camera on cm 11?
Thanks a lot!
bl4zing said:
Hello guys,
i just looked a video about the htc ones slow motion function. I^ve tried it with the cyanogenmod 11 build in camera, but it crashes when i chose hdr and i cant find the slowmo function, so i`m looking for the htc ones stock camera app. Ive already tried to search it via google but without any results. Are there any possibilitys to install the 4.3 stock Camera on cm 11?
Thanks a lot!
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Sorry to disappoint, but this is not possible. The HTC Camera app uses code that is a part of HTC's Sense UI. Without a stock Sense Rom, you cannot install the Sense Camera, which is a shame.
The biggest problem is that the code related to the camera app is not open source, so Devs cannot really use it to port the app to AOSP/CM roms.
Hopefully some genius dev will be able to replicate the function of the required code, and port over the camera, but it is not really a priority for any of them right now.
Mihir1997 said:
Sorry to disappoint, but this is not possible. The HTC Camera app uses code that is a part of HTC's Sense UI. Without a stock Sense Rom, you cannot install the Sense Camera, which is a shame.
The biggest problem is that the code related to the camera app is not open source, so Devs cannot really use it to port the app to AOSP/CM roms.
Hopefully some genius dev will be able to replicate the function of the required code, and port over the camera, but it is not really a priority for any of them right now.
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oh, well, i allready thaught so..
it seems, that the camera app is a vergy good work from htc. As i heard, it comes with the best slowmo quality until now.. what should i do now? are there any better ways then taking the stock rom? I really like the design of 4.4 , but the batterylife decrease slightly. I think i would take a custom rom with sense, so i can delete some stock roms. Is that possible?
bl4zing said:
oh, well, i allready thaught so..
it seems, that the camera app is a vergy good work from htc. As i heard, it comes with the best slowmo quality until now.. what should i do now? are there any better ways then taking the stock rom? I really like the design of 4.4 , but the batterylife decrease slightly. I think i would take a custom rom with sense, so i can delete some stock roms. Is that possible?
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I think you meant you would delete/replace some of the stock apps on a rooted Sense rom... Am I correct?
If so, yes. I personally would vouch for ViperOne. The team is super amazing. They have quick, over-the-air updates, and their rom is rock solid stable.To delete apps, you can use Rom Cleaner (just search the XDA forums in the general android development) I can provide links 2morrow when I get back home bcoz my phone doesn't show the XDA search bar lol.
But an even better approach than removing apps yourself is to Use Eragon Rom. I have a link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2423492&highlight=eragon
The developer removed the sense launcher and everything, but kept some apps like the camera, gallery, dialer, and sound equalizer. It is pretty smooth, and tbh, the Dev is a nice, helpful guy.
Hope I helped
Mihir1997 said:
I think you meant you would delete/replace some of the stock apps on a rooted Sense rom... Am I correct?
If so, yes. I personally would vouch for ViperOne. The team is super amazing. They have quick, over-the-air updates, and their rom is rock solid stable.To delete apps, you can use Rom Cleaner (just search the XDA forums in the general android development) I can provide links 2morrow when I get back home bcoz my phone doesn't show the XDA search bar lol.
But an even better approach than removing apps yourself is to Use Eragon Rom. I have a link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2423492&highlight=eragon
The developer removed the sense launcher and everything, but kept some apps like the camera, gallery, dialer, and sound equalizer. It is pretty smooth, and tbh, the Dev is a nice, helpful guy.
Hope I helped
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Perfect! I really like the eragon rom! I would like to try out some things of the galery app but its okay. I am happy with that rom. Thanks a lot.
bl4zing said:
Perfect! I really like the eragon rom! I would like to try out some things of the galery app but its okay. I am happy with that rom. Thanks a lot.
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I do believe Eragon has the HTC gallery app as well. In fact, I am sure, because it supports HTC Zoe, which requires the HTC gallery.
I'm looking to make the switch to aosp. I know that the dialer codes only work on sense roms (#data, #775, #778). How can you get access to these when using an aosp rom? Is an aosp rom that much better than a sense rom?
gsx1000r02 said:
I'm looking to make the switch to aosp. I know that the dialer codes only work on sense roms (#data, #775, #778). How can you get access to these when using an aosp rom? Is an aosp rom that much better than a sense rom?
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I was googling this earlier, and there are methods which can enable dialer codes but untested on our phones. Honestly there are hundreds of threads on AOSP and Sense comparisons, but in my opinion, AOSP has better battery life (although sometimes I've heard that Sense has better battery life), Sense has better looks as it has HTC's skin all over it. Last but not all, AOSP ROMs, such as Nocturnal GE are usually always on the latest version of Android.
If you switch to AOSP (I am using LS AOSP Rom). You will lose some of these:
Voicemail Application
Dialer Codes
All Hardware Camera Features (e.g. Burst, Zoe, etc)
Blinkfeed
fryguy503 said:
If you switch to AOSP (I am using LS AOSP Rom). You will lose some of these:
Voicemail Application
Dialer Codes
All Hardware Camera Features (e.g. Burst, Zoe, etc)
Blinkfeed
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Of those, can you get back the voicemail and camera funct. back? What, then, really makes aosp better? I have only ever had an HTC phone. The only thing I know is the Sense. If I was to switch to say a samsung or something else, what is really out there for them in terms of roms?
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Of those, can you get back the voicemail and camera funct. back? What, then, really makes aosp better? I have only ever had an HTC phone. The only thing I know is the Sense. If I was to switch to say a samsung or something else, what is really out there for them in terms of roms?
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There are Third party Camera apps that will emulate the burst feature. The Voicemail app you can use Google Voice, it has a "Similar" feature.
The deal is, AOSP is a preference some love it, some hate it. I prefer AOSP over Sense, however maybe you like TouchWiz (Samsung's Shell) or *Shudder* the old Moto Blur.
HTC Devices are built around Sense, the hardware is designed to work with it, and only it. This leads us to the closed source drivers that the Camera uses. This is what limits the AOSP's ability to interact with the camera, e.g. Burst and Zoe like functions.
The only way to tell, is to just try a AOSP Rom and decide for yourself. Do a Nandroid backup of your current setup then flash (A Sprint Version, do not flash a GSM/International Version or you will have a bad day) an AOSP Rom. I suggest Liquid Smooth.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647850
fryguy503 said:
There are Third party Camera apps that will emulate the burst feature. The Voicemail app you can use Google Voice, it has a "Similar" feature.
The deal is, AOSP is a preference some love it, some hate it. I prefer AOSP over Sense, however maybe you like TouchWiz (Samsung's Shell) or *Shudder* the old Moto Blur.
HTC Devices are built around Sense, the hardware is designed to work with it, and only it. This leads us to the closed source drivers that the Camera uses. This is what limits the AOSP's ability to interact with the camera, e.g. Burst and Zoe like functions.
The only way to tell, is to just try a AOSP Rom and decide for yourself. Do a Nandroid backup of your current setup then flash (A Sprint Version, do not flash a GSM/International Version or you will have a bad day) an AOSP Rom. I suggest Liquid Smooth.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647850
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KEWL thanx for the fast response. I've been looking around at all of the different ROMs out there. I've been consistently using either BADBOYZ or BADSEED on sense. Looking to just try something different. I have CM on my Nexus 7 wifi, just wasn't sure about putting aosp on a phone. I know I also lose the dialer codes that can be used with sense roms. Is there any way to bring them back to aosp?
One question that I have never asked and could not find anything on. Which rom type has the better signal, aosp or sense?
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KEWL thanx for the fast response. I've been looking around at all of the different ROMs out there. I've been consistently using either BADBOYZ or BADSEED on sense. Looking to just try something different. I have CM on my Nexus 7 wifi, just wasn't sure about putting aosp on a phone. I know I also lose the dialer codes that can be used with sense roms. Is there any way to bring them back to aosp?
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I know its not a perfect solution but when I use Roms with no epst/dialer code support. I just keep a nandroid of a ROM that does. When I need it its just a nandroid away! Works for me!
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