Hello friends i have been trying to port windows in xperia. Was able to run the image succesfully in windows qemu but on android it is not working, bochs2_5_1 doesnt even start and on qemu it goes to startup but doesnt start and shows options for rebooting into safe mode etc... I dont know where is the problem...
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Why windows? If you have the knowledge and time why not try Ubuntu Touch? I'm pretty sure it would be much easier and more useful. We would love to see Ubuntu Touch on our XZ
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Yes i would like to do that but right now i want to run some windis tasks from the mobile so it becomes one stop shop for me. I want to use windows onmobile for some light exe files
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This would be close to impossible since you need a x86 cpu or something that would emulate ARM to X86... Or a arm version of windows... Not to mention the ram
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kolipko said:
This would be close to impossible since you need a x86 cpu or something that would emulate ARM to X86... Or a arm version of windows... Not to mention the ram
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Maybe WinMo? Or Windows RT? That supporting ARM processor...
~iPod~nano~ said:
Maybe WinMo? Or Windows RT? That supporting ARM processor...
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I would like winmo too but lack of drivers makes it almost impossible....
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How can I improve the text quality in windows 3.1??
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What??????
I mean that graphics are very poor in windows 3.1 on my phone.is that with everybody?
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Maybe not many guys are trying windows 3.1 on an android phone => you must find your solution by yourself
Do you want to use win3.1 permanently on your phone? So if its graphic is very poor, get back to android
Is it possible to make a script, what makes it possible to run armv7 apps on armv6 phones, so that the 'armv7 commands' from an app or the system are send to a script which translates them into 'armv6 commands' and send them to the processor, and the same way back? There isn't to much difference between Armv6 and armv7, so if it's possible, i think it wouldn't be too hard for expirienced dev's...
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What u need is qemu or manually reassemble the new elf.
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What u need is qemu or manually reassemble the new elf.
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So it is possible? In that case: i'll start right away!
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kuci06 said:
Oh lol, no.
Even if some genious found a way to write this "magic" script, it would REAAAAAALLLLLYYY slow down the phone
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Agreed. Just 'translating' each command will take massive processor time, the phone may be slow as hell.
Well it would rly only cuz slowdown only in the case of optimized functions or insns that dont have armv6 equivalent. BUT this would only be possible for small chunks of code OR small program like less than 1KB of .text segment and very good asm knowledge. Also u can forget about NEON etc SIMD insns. What u describe is an interpreter emulator(sort of) which is HARD to do.
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And then u d have to change the ~ELF to sth like ~EL6 and use binutils to properly handle the elf along with user space and kernel space programs.
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Agreed. Just 'translating' each command will take massive processor time, the phone may be slow as hell.
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But you forget one thing: there isn't to much difference between armv6 and armv7. So just a few commands have to be translated: the others can run with native support. And the sdk isn't that slow, but that emulator needs to translate everything. So there is hope...
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The emulator is slow because it emulates armv6 on x86, sofrware interpreter! And arnv7 on 6 requires code to check each insn to see if it's different from v6 which translates to HUGE speed impact. Also they r 2 different archs. Not only the cpu insn set is different/update/added....
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U rly cant compare sdk emu to this, differenr problem to solve.
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The emulator is slow because it emulates armv6 on x86, sofrware interpreter! And arnv7 on 6 requires code to check each insn to see if it's different from v6 which translates to HUGE speed impact. Also they r 2 different archs. Not only the cpu insn set is different/update/added....
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I can compare it with the sdk, because everything you just said about on armv6 => armv7, is the same on armv6 => x86. And you can run all apps in de emulator, so that is translated too! So basicly it IS possible.
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Dude just calm down... Let me rephrase. If you just swap insns u won't get anywhere. There much more things to CPUs than the ISA. MUCH. Trust me in this as a student of E. Eng.
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Dude just calm down... Let me rephrase. If you just swap insns u won't get anywhere. There much more things to CPUs than the ISA. MUCH. Trust me in this as a student of E. Eng.
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I understand that there is muuuuch more, and that it will be really hard, but it is a fact that it works on x86, so theoretical it is possible. You must admit that.
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Of course. BUT it will be SLOW,unless some1 manages to optimize to hell the v6 eq code and only for programs that make no use of v7 specific features.
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i think there is a thread saying how to get armv7 apps working on armv6 by changing the build.porp stuff
It will run extremely SLOW!! but yes. Remember how Chinese developers have ported adobe flash meant for ARMv7 to ARMv6?. How 240p content couldn't even be streamed without lagging or near 30fps while 400Mhz Corext A8 can do it easily?.
It is just not worth it, it will just make it unusable
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i think there is a thread saying how to get armv7 apps working on armv6 by changing the build.porp stuff
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I thanked you, but no it doesn't work like that. ARMv7 Binary codes simply can't be executed on ARMv6 without causing force closes.
Flash player 10.1 didn't rely on armv7 specific opcodes.
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Hai guys I watched some of the videos of the Ubuntu mobile operating system in YouTube and heard about it. The developer says it can run in low-end devices and specially optimized for it! If there's any chance of running the Os in our lovely X8..? After the official release.
Curiously asking this.
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Todays low end devices have atleast 512 MB of RAM and 1GHz ARMv7 CPU.
Here are the minimal requirements for Ubuntu. X8 can't handle it.
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Todays low end devices have atleast 512 MB of RAM and 1GHz ARMv7 CPU.
Here are the minimal requirements for Ubuntu. X8 can't handle it.
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But,Nowadays no developer or Hackers/Users reading the minimal requirement to run OS in their device because for example
Our X8 only can handle Android Eclair 2.1.1 and the maker says it can't go beyond it.But Developers and Hackers managed to take our device
to new high by making the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean and its predecessor running on X8. so,i believe Ubuntu will come to X8 by anyway.
Cheers.Sorry for my Bad English
I would love to see ubuntu coming for our device
btw, how does the ubuntu get installed on the galaxy device? By using CWM ?
even if some developer takes up the task... you wont see it coming up for 7-8 months from now
X8 can handle it as it can with jelly bean , but ubuntu is kinda pointless to make it work on our device.
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even if some developer takes up the task... you wont see it coming up for 7-8 months from now
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Yes. it's just normal to take too much time to make it work on the device. but when it succeed.
its worthy!
Mockingbird said:
X8 can handle it as it can with jelly bean , but ubuntu is kinda pointless to make it work on our device.
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Like Android! Ubuntu have bright feature. i think its kinda Fun to see Ubuntu Runs on X8!
I use the ea fifa companion app and it lags really badly on my phone when I click the menu, is it the phone that is the problem or is it the app. Can anyone confirm it. Thanks in advance.
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Might be the CPU underclocking, not giving enough power. Try setting cpu frequencies to minimum over 1ghz and see if it makes a difference! if not, poor coding and optimization.
I tried making the CPU work constantly at 1.5 Ghz but that didn't help. Is it just my phone or is it all Xperia z phones
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slyviper1700 said:
I tried making the CPU work constantly at 1.5 Ghz but that didn't help. Is it just my phone or is it all Xperia z phones
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Crap app for sure
It worked on my HTC sensation and Xperia play as well as my brother's HTC desire HD
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Help anyone?
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slyviper1700 said:
Help anyone?
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Can't even help you, as I can not find this on the play store. Only get EA Sports FC, and FIFA 13 Scout
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Can't even help you, as I can not find this on the play store. Only get EA Sports FC, and FIFA 13 Scout
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Here it is: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ea.fifaultimate_row&hl=en
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I use the ea fifa companion app and it lags really badly on my phone when I click the menu, is it the phone that is the problem or is it the app. Can anyone confirm it. Thanks in advance.
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it s almost about bugs in app. (not enough compatible with xperia z, maybe!)
and now i see the link u sent that it s not compatible at all !!!!
and for this kindda lag u should also check what s happening in background
check background process with ** stock apps manager of Xperia ** and sometimes try to release manually RAM and clear cache.
(it s not about Xperia phones, that because of android and google should work on RAM and Cache management more on android, cause it happens on all smartphones)
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I use the ea fifa companion app and it lags really badly on my phone when I click the menu, is it the phone that is the problem or is it the app. Can anyone confirm it. Thanks in advance.
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Yes i use this app too, it does lag a lot on Z but its nothing to do with the phone this app is very poorly optimized it also lags in Samsung Note, SE Mini pro and S3 . (these are the phones i've used the app with)
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it s almost about bugs in app. (not enough compatible with xperia z, maybe!)
and now i see the link u sent that it s not compatible at all !!!!
and for this kindda lag u should also check what s happening in background
check background process with ** stock apps manager of Xperia ** and sometimes try to release manually RAM and clear cache.
(it s not about Xperia phones, that because of android and google should work on RAM and Cache management more on android, cause it happens on all smartphones)
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Interesting because the app tells me that is compatible with all my devices.
Just downloaded however you need an account, so can't test it further. But as stated by someone else, is that it runs slow on a number of their devices. So would appear to be a badly written software that has not progressed and been optimised as the android operating systems have. From what I gather it would seem that the software does not support multi core devices
We have great developers, why not?
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helinhof said:
We have great developers, why not?
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We don't have great device
And Ubuntu Touch is not yet released in daily driver form for any device. It's like alpha or beta.
Agreed with nishanty13 and ast00.
We don't have a great spec devices (c'mon, ARMV6 Processor, LDPI screen, 600 Mhz processor ? You gotta' be kidding me) and Ubuntu touch isn't stable yet. It still hanging around on Alpha stage.
Ubuntu Touch is just "preview", nothing works except browser. There isn't any real application on it, cannot do anything, it likes a set of screenshots of real OS.
*I know because I've tried installing and using it, but it has nothing to use *
Phan.Huy.Cong said:
Ubuntu Touch is just "preview", nothing works except browser. There isn't any real application on it, cannot do anything, it likes a set of screenshots of real OS.
*I know because I've tried installing and using it, but it has nothing to use *
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Yeah, agreed with you. I already installed it in my Nexus, but yeah, nothing is great. It's hard porting a full blown desktop experience to a phone. Also, our Mini isn't great at all, you can't just go beyond limit, our Mini is a ARMV6 powered phone with 256 MB RAM, what's so great that you want fully blown Ubuntu Touch ?
No offence but i disagree with idea of porting it.
Honestly....porting is not impossible but really is it even worth it....
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hsay said:
Honestly....porting is not impossible but really is it even worth it....
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I don't think it's wort it...only if you have a SIII or SIV maybe but on a device such as our mini i would wish that cm10.1 to become stable and official that wold be more than enough for me
i don't think it would have any interrest right now