I guess thread title says it all...
In next few days I'm about to sell my dear Arc S, and I'm undecided between three phones:
Ion, T and V, with T being the most probable option.
Now, this might sound as a newbie question, which I'm not, but I would appreciate as many opinions as I can get.
Regarding choices, I'm in love with Ion's build quality, but on the other hand T and V are more recent phones, and therefore will probably have a bit longer life regarding updates. I love Xperia T design much more than V, but on the other side, removable battery and water resistance, heh...
This is really a tough call.
(Xperia SP was also a choice, but I will rather buy older flagship device than newer mid-ranger).
So, any word will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I'm from Arc S to TX. After i just bought my TX I feel Wow! don't need to suffer for internal memory and I still remember everytime I jump out from apps to homescreen, it takes time to load the icon and content. Mmm.. So far I'm satisfied with my TX. Nowadays 1GB of ram consider just enough for average user like me so couldn't expect that much on your Xperia T too.
you coming from arc s? so i guess you like the arc design? you want a good relation smartphonesize-displaysize? and a low prize phone (how much in sarajevo? Germany around 270euro) ?
you like flashing custom roms, you like play around? check the forum sections
maybe then go with xperia T (CM Support, PAC Support, some other Port Roms, Miui v5, some stock based Roms, many Mods)
how save is the V waterproof feature? is it necessary to have that?
thats some questions i would ask myself if i want buy a new phone. (by the way theres a guessing around the net XT can maybe get 4.3 directly, skippin 4.2.2, but not 100%sure)
by the way i not have that icon loading problem joonlin write about. it would be a decent update
a little subjective end note from myself:
you want handgasms? then take the T
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I love arc(h) design, that's the main reason I bought Arc S in the first place.
Yes, I care a lot about display size (and bezel size corelation), as I don't want a chocolade in my hands.
The price is basically the same then. It's about 520-540KM in sarajevo, which is about 270 Euros.
Of course the V's water-proof is not a killer feature to me, but removable battery is. Maybe I'm a bit paranoid, I don't know.
Like I said, Xperia T is the most probable option, and I already even ordered Nillkin case for it, from eBay.
I will report in next few days what I have bought. If I decide to go with T, then white one would be my preference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BtXZiVLtWc
maybe video like this help with the paranoid thoughts?
in worst case scenario you can change or let change the battery, also its possible to change backcover (there some shops in internet who sell custom backcovers)
heres a video with ion/T comparison (german, but you can see it in hands then )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_yJnAP9DEk
I'm not afraid of disassembling the phone. I disassembled probably every piece of electronics/phones I ever had.
I just thought it's a bit easier to deal with all kinds of bricking and freezings of phone, when you have a removable battery, but I guess thats's part of paranoia too.
I guess it's clear then. T it's gonna be, 99%.
And one more thing to ask. Some reviews are mentioning that flap covering microSD and microSIM is a bit messy.
Like, once you open it, you never really get to close it ideally again. I guess this is not entirely true?
Aso, based on video comparison above, Ion seems to have a bit brighter display, with better viewing angles. But ok, this is not a dealbraker to me.
I upgraded to the T from the arc (not s). Arc was a awesome phone, with a fast and fluid ui (on gb) and a great camera. Ive used the arc for almost 2 years and i've had my T for 5 months now.
The T is a worthy upgrade, the phone is faster, i like the jellybean firmware and the screen is a big upgrade from arc. Also the 1gb ram is a big relieve since my arc would always run low on ram. The batterylife is also quite a lot better.
When i first got the T i thought it was pretty thick but thats actually kind of nice. The T feels more stable in your hand because of its thickness and rubber back. The arc felt a little fragile (which it wasn't, i must have dropped that phone like a million times and its still alive)
The only thing which is not an upgrade in my opinion is the camera. It's a good camera but the arc camera was simply amazing.
I didnt go for the latest flagship because it was to expensive. My friends have the htc one, xperia z and lumia 920 and this phone doesnt feel outdated compared to those phones. I also think sony has the best looking no nonsense smartphone software.
So yes, upgrade to T
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spromper said:
I upgraded to the T from the arc (not s). Arc was a awesome phone... The T is a worthy upgrade, the phone is faster, i like the jellybean firmware and the screen is a big upgrade from arc... The T feels more stable in your hand because of its thickness and rubber back. The arc felt a little fragile... The arc camera was simply amazing.
I didnt go for the latest flagship because it was to expensive... I also think sony has the best looking no nonsense smartphone software.
So yes, upgrade to T...
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This is basically the sum up of my current thoughts too.
Yes, Arc S was an amazing, and beautiful phone before anything else. And yes, it's having a great camera. And yes, it feels fragile, but it's not actually. Back cover is lame quality though.
And yes, the T (and Ion) feels heavier but it's a good thing. And I love T's design also, more than Ion's or V's.
And the same thing, I don't have enough money for Z or ZR now, and if I happen to have, I would question myself about buying Z. It's too big and too slippery, and too fingerprintable for my taste.
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This is basically the sum up of my current thoughts too.
Yes, Arc S was an amazing, and beautiful phone before anything else. And yes, it's having a great camera. And yes, it feels fragile, but it's not actually. Back cover is lame quality though.
And yes, the T (and Ion) feels heavier but it's a good thing. And I love T's design also, more than Ion's or V's.
And the same thing, I don't have enough money for Z or ZR now, and if I happen to have, I would question myself about buying Z. It's too big and too slippery, and too fingerprintable for my taste.
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Z is pretty awesome, my friend is really liking the waterproof feature. but its pretty big indeed and my friends Z just broke(probably his own fault, he was throwing his phone around while he was drunk). But ive dropped my T quite a few times and i barely have a scratch. If i had to choose again i would take T again with no doubt. Ive seen a lot of people crying about sony and the jb firmwares on this forum but i dont share their opinion at all. Samsung and htc also aren't that good with upgrades. Samsungs arc comparable phone(galaxy s plus) didnt get a ics upgrade, my gf has the plus and shes stuck with some crappy unstable touchwiz firmware.
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Ive seen a lot of people crying about sony and the jb firmwares on this forum but i dont share their opinion at all. Samsung and htc also aren't that good with upgrades.
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Heh, as 2011 Xperia flagship user, I'm quite familiar with all kind of whinings, cries, swears to never buy Sony again, etc...
To be honest, I was never obsessed with updates. My priorities were fast, functional, and bug-free firmware, so I spent most of my time with Xperia Arc S using stock GingerBread firmware (rooted and debloated).
But it should be said that ICS update for 2011 Xperia line was quite horrible. Creepy slow and full of bugs.
Now, what I don't get from your post is, why are people still crying about JB here? Isn't Xperia T already provided with JB update?
I didn't have time to read these forums throughly, so I don't know what is the feedback about JB yet, but shouldn't it be better than ICS in every way?
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Heh, as 2011 Xperia flagship user, I'm quite familiar with all kind of whinings, cries, swears to never buy Sony again, etc...
To be honest, I was never obsessed with updates. My priorities were fast, functional, and bug-free firmware, so I spent most of my time with Xperia Arc S using stock GingerBread firmware (rooted and debloated).
But it should be said that ICS update for 2011 Xperia line was quite horrible. Creepy slow and full of bugs.
Now, what I don't get from your post is, why are people still crying about JB here? Isn't Xperia T already provided with JB update?
I didn't have time to read these forums throughly, so I don't know what is the feedback about JB yet, but shouldn't it be better than ICS in every way?
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For me everything works great except auto brightness. So for me it is in every way better than ics. But people are whining about batterydrains, slow phones, gaming performance. I havent had any of these problems but i do have to say that i dont use a lot of heavy apps. Mainly whatsapp, chrome, dropbox, 9gag and facebook.
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i upgraded from ARC S to XPERIA TX , and am feeling satisfied , TX has the arc design , it has bigger screen than xperia V , check this comparison from the GSM arena website
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4959&idPhone2=4958
I bought it! :victory:
About hour ago I bought my new beastie boy...
My first impressions are... WOW, just WOW!
Display is huge huge improvement over Arc S, in terms of everything. Colors are amazing, as well as sharpness. UI is beautiful too, probably the best Android skin among all big players, at least for me. Also, build quality seems amazing, and it feels rock solid in hands.
Also, JB came out of the box, version 9.1.A.0.489, and also it already popped me with mesage that new update is available, 9.1.A.1.141.
I guess I should update it, it's only 20-something MBs?
since I'am too considering to switch to one of these xperias i'm in doubt whether T is better than V. V's got a 4G support and is kind of weatherproof. it's also got newer chipset and isn't that alone enough for V to work faster that T? though usb otg is not listed among features this chipset natively supports it and I see no reason for it to be not enabled at least in a custom rom. another thing, the price of SP these days is closing down to that of V or T and it might be even better deal to go for with some 50-60 KM's (~$40) of difference between these models. I was considering even Z but decided to put it on hold until that issue with back glass "ungluing" has been resolved. I do not know how serious that is and do not want to become a victim of a pore design and lack of engineering common sense. i like all three models though, and it seems to be a tough choice what to go for.
As phone design plays a huge role in my decisions when purchasing a new phone, this time Xperia T won for obvious reasons (well, at least to me).
I never liked Xperia V design, not on pictures, and not in real when I compare it with T (or with Ion for that matter).
Yes, Xperia SP is having very close price range, to those of T and V, but still it's a mid-ranger, and somehow I would always choose older flagship over newer mid-ranger, with the same/similar price. But it's just me...
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As phone design plays a huge role in my decisions when purchasing a new phone, this time Xperia T won for obvious reasons (well, at least to me).
I never liked Xperia V design, not on pictures, and not in real when I compare it with T (or with Ion for that matter).
Yes, Xperia SP is having very close price range, to those of T and V, but still it's a mid-ranger, and somehow I would always choose older flagship over newer mid-ranger, with the same/similar price. But it's just me...
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I came from the Arc and got the T, my missus just took delivery of the SP last week. I can catagorically say that the T is a most excellent upgrade to the Arc, but I like the additional items and functionality like the LED bar, slightly sleeker shape of the SP and faster processor. I'd go for the SP in hindsight but would definitely not be disappointed with the T.
Regarding pure aesthetics, I definitely don't regret buying a T and not an SP. Yes, I too like illumination bar of SP, and marginally better hardware specs (what is there to not like about that), but all in all, I think Xperia T is an amazing package, with very affordable price (maybe even underrated compared to some other OEMs devices), and generally an device with much more character to it, than Xperia SP. Like I said, design is beautiful, elegant with some nice accents, and probably the whole world is recognising it as a "Bond phone". While SP is bound to be a mid-ranger for the time being, and will never gain any significant attention probably.
And yeah, T feels rock-solid regarding build quality, something that my last phone, Arc S, was lacking badly (while still being an beautiful device).
Simply, I love my new phone, after merely two days of usage...
Dude, you sound like you're convincing yourself that you made a right choice. Praising a generaly older piece of hardware and crithisizing a new one, just because of your personal affection is not correct. I considered T as well, but opted for SP simply because is a new generation hardware. And even that is to become obsolete quite soon. There are some advantages of T, i agree it's got better camera and more storage, but anyone who want anything resembling a quality photo would go for a real point and shot or even a real dslr device, and storage can be expanded. I already put in a 32gb sdhc clas 10, fast memory with sufficient storage. And design of sp might not be striking, but sure is elegant and atractive. There are those like I am who do not want their phone to look like bannana. No offence ment. It' just personal taste. The rest of the the hardware inside SP is near flagship phones of not just sony, but of sumsung and htc as well. Go and check several tests and reviews, they can't all be wrong. So enjoy your phone but be realistic. While it is a mid-ranger, SP is a device with a lot of potential and if it had 2gb of ram it would be a absolut winner. Still, it has plenty to offer to any kind of user, even the heavy ones, and because being newer generation device it will enjoy longer support, so it was a logical chice for me. While the looks is somewhat conservative it is longlasting, plus i'm not going to take it to bad with me, at least not to make love to it. I'm going to root it and make it do it's job. It is supposed so serve my needs, connectionwise speaking, and it is supposed to do that for some time and i will need that support that SP will have. So good luck andhave a good time
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And yeah, i'm not getting a hard-on watching bond movies.
skojevac said:
Dude, you sound like you're convincing yourself that you made a right choice. Praising a generaly older piece of hardware and crithisizing a new one, just because of your personal affection is not correct.
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And your reply sounded like...? You made my post very laid back and relaxed alike, with this kind of even more biased reply.
I'm not trying to convince anybody anything. I'm simply telling why I made the choice I made. I could have easily gone with your choice if I wanted to, but I didn't wanted (not couldn't).
And yeah, I'm not "getting hard on" watching Bond movies as well, I even don't like them.
I'm just telling that Bond colored marketing campaign helped this phone being desirable and recognisable piece of hardware, a bit more than an "usual" phone, and that's it.
Take it easy friend... SP is great device as well, I might even suggest it to my friend tonight (who's migrating from iPhone soon).
Thats all subjective reasons to choose a phone, of both of you two. its some sort of personal taste. for me mr_torture taste matches also my personal taste.
I believe noone can choose a phone just from objective point of view. because we humans and not robots
And just because a phone is generaly older piece of hardware, means nothing skojevac. Just wanne say :highfive:
If i would buy a phone with your arguments, then i also would not choose the SP, i wouldnt choose any phone with 1GB Ram.:good:
love the banana
the older, the sweeter ahahahaha
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I am stuck between Incredible S and Xperia Neo cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Wave and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but HDMI and camera is good on Neo.
Kindly suggest me which one should i get ?
It's got to be the IS, Sony phones feel so plastic and cheap when you use them, even the screens feel like they're made of plastic, i know the back of the IS is plastic but that's it, at least it feels solid when you hold it.
You can customise the UI to almost anything, it never lags, it's very fast for browsing and it's light, it's a freaking awesome phone
Thanks for the reply, can you use LED Flash with video on IS ?
Yes you can!
Thanks a lot for the replies, am sure getting IS.
Xperia Neo is S-OFF with unlocked bootloader. IS isn't.
If I were you, I will get SE Xperia Neo instead. HTC is crab with this bootloader locked. You can't do much with this crab.
I regret getting this IS which I am not able to change ROM. Furthermore, you will get bored with this HTC Sense crab. Nothing much.
Also, IS phone signal is very weak. I always have signal drop till no network. I have Moto Milestone compare side by side, MM never has this problem. Same provider, network but this IS is ****.
I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't you do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Neo so I can't compare the two two, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the arc is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing oi would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
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The IS is a great phone definitely get a case for it I have an OtterBox for mine works awesome. As l0st.prophet said you should have done the research before buying it I work at Virgin Mobile and I knew before buying it with my 30% discount that it couldn't be rooted yet but that time will come. The xperia neo i wont think will have a big following go for the arc or play if u want a sony device.
Otherwise stick with the IS great phone takes amazing pictures and is pretty damn fast specially compared to my Blackberry 9780. Only issue i have is the radio seems week and I don't get as good as a signal with it as I did with my Blackberry 9780.
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I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
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Because some people are only happy when they're complaining, if they could install another ROM they only come on here to ***** about how their wifi don't work, they can't take pictures properly, etc, etc, etc ,etc
Is this ROMs/Bootloader thing really necessary to have ? I mean the factory ROMS arnt worth it or what, does it have bugs ? Does it Lags ?
SGSII was my first choice but it is very expensive and isnt durable at all plastic body and very thin, i like SLCD on IS much better screen, speed, camera, battery, durability, games, thats all i want on a phone and i guess IS has it all, doesnt matter to me if it is locked on unlocked as it will be my first time with Android i dont have any idea about these things.
Arc is also expensive, IS and Neo are the only mobile phones (i guess) in this price range which are rich in features.
I will be getting the Neo. Camera and esspecially video is much better and of course HDMI out port is awesome. I dont like capacitive buttons (esspecially if their lightning is crappy).
xperia is way better
neo is just awesome i have it !!!!!!!!
my dad has the is its good but neo nails the **** out of it
l0st.prophet said:
I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't you do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Neo so I can't compare the two two, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the arc is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing oi would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
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I agree with you but consider this - MOST of us want to help, but don't have the skills to actually provide any help. We all are impatiently waiting to get ROOT, flash ROMs and KERNELs, that we forget that it's not easy to find exploits, especially when a company like HTC spent so much money on creating the flag in the first place. (PS - What's the status on the exploit???)
Now, about the phones - the bootloader is the ONLY ONE FEATURE IN NEO, and that doesn't mean squat unless you wanna root, which I'm pretty sure you won't be doing, whereas the IS has a gr8 body, HTC Sense(which beats the crap outta sony's UI), and loads of other stuff. GET THAT FOR SURE !!!!!!!!
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I would personally stay away from all Sony Xperia series phones. I own an Arc and can't stand the way it handles memory. They all look good spec wise. Unfortunately they don't live up to expectations (at least in my opinion). I have 2 Incredible S and they perform way better. If you don't like SenseUI, you can just use a custom rom.
I currently own a Galaxy Nexus, and I'm thinking about upgrading to the Xperia T (or TX rather, cheaper and available now in NY). I'm just trying to get some opinions on if this is a smart upgrade.
Biggest problem with my Nexus is the screen... its not great. I can deal with the lack of development on the Xperia T.... (more time for life without flashing roms)
Love the camera on the T... Galaxy Nexus not so much.. Xperia should also be better to hold in my hand...
Any opinions, thoughts? Should I stick with my Nexus?
I suggest upgrading!
Xperia T is incomparable faster phone, with great stability and very nice display (in sunlight readable).
And I know what I am saying, after one month of GN usage.
I actually like the Sony skin and it doesn't change too much so I don't care much about custom roms at this point.
I like the T a lot more, but that's up to you if you wanna upgrade
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I just bought my Xperia T tonight and already I like it way more than my HTC One X. I had the GN before the HOX and loved the GN for it's ease of flashing and modding. It was also comfortable in the hand but the screen and camera really let it down.
I think the XpT will be a great upgrade.
My vote? Go for it!
Can one of you guys please tell me if you can disable the battery percentage? It might be a dealbreaker for me, believe it or not.
The Xperia T has an LCD screen and the text on it are crisp and clear. It could stand to be a bit brighter but for battery conservation purposes I like to keep mine on 50% brightness so that really doesn't affect me all too much.
I think development on the Xperia T could rival that of the SIII but since the T's just come out and the SIII has been out for months now it's just going to take a little bit of time. The same can be said on the accessory front too!
As for OS Sony has promised Jelly Bean soon after launch but who knows when that will be, only that it will come eventually.
As for handling, the Xperia T feels very well made but if you are at all familiar with Sony products then you won't need any explanation. But the rubber matte back cover is indeed a nice touch. I was at first put off by the fake in store models since they felt way more rubbery but the real phone feels way more smooth. Like an expensive screwdriver's handle. Coming from a Nexus you probably prefer stock Android but Sony's skin is very light and non-intrusive, unlike Touchwiz, and the abundance of black makes it look much more elegant and mature. Rather suited towards a businessman than compared to say Sense or Touchwiz.
And if all that hasn't convinced you of the T then maybe James Bond will in the upcoming film, Skyfall. Who could argue with a secret agent with a license to kill?
Thank you for that detailed reply, I really do appreciate it! I love the look of this device, love the fact that it is a bit smaller (will feel better in my hands), and I've never had a Sony phone, so I'm looking forward to a change.
Can you tell me if you can disable the battery percentage in the status bar please?
Thanks
caliber177 said:
Thank you for that detailed reply, I really do appreciate it! I love the look of this device, love the fact that it is a bit smaller (will feel better in my hands), and I've never had a Sony phone, so I'm looking forward to a change.
Can you tell me if you can disable the battery percentage in the status bar please?
Thanks
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I looked everywhere but I cannot find an option to remove it.
I didn't see a way to remove the percentage on the stock ROM. CM10 has the option though I'm sure.
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been using gnex since feb, will get tx in 2 days coz frd helped me buying it in hk, with sony tv dock for $99 hkd ($12.75 usd)
i didnt even see the real phone and made my mind to upgrade
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Hi all just wanted to have your opinion since most of you are Z1 owners and I'm thinking of buying either the Sony Z1 Compact which just got announced and has the same specs as the Z1 but in a smaller formfactor or the Nexus 5.
I used to have the htc One mini coz it's more suited for one hand use than the htc One but the battery life is simply horrible and not a lot of ROM support.
So I'm asking Z1 users if you recommend the Z1 over the Nexus or vice versa ???
And is Sony updating their devices to the latest Android version or Like Samsung they just slow in pushing updates??????
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Hi all just wanted to have your opinion since most of you are Z1 owners and I'm thinking of buying either the Sony Z1 Compact which just got announced and has the same specs as the Z1 but in a smaller formfactor or the Nexus 5.
I used to have the htc One mini coz it's more suited for one hand use than the htc One but the battery life is simply horrible and not a lot of ROM support.
So I'm asking Z1 users if you recommend the Z1 over the Nexus or vice versa ???
And is Sony updating their devices to the latest Android version or Like Samsung they just slow in pushing updates??????
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Personally bro I'd recommend the z1, it really is a monster Android device which is SUPER smooth and handles anything you can throw at it (software wise), personally I also think it is the better looking of the two. Honestly people have ripped this phone to shreds with saying this and that but at the end of the day (I must be very lucky) mine is perfect and it works like a charm
I think Sony is definitely one of the better manufactures to release timely updates, Samsung are just horrible!!! The z1 is getting KitKat very soon, in a few weeks time so that's awesome! But NO phone on earth can compete with a Nexus device when it comes to the latest and greatest Android release from Google. I really like Nexus for that reason, and also custom firmware support far out shines most (if not) all devices.
At the end of the day, it all boils down to personal preference. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that spec wise, the Nexus 5 doesn't even come close to the z1.
Good luck in your decision :good:
EDIT: Oh I just saw on phonearena that they are pretty similar spec wise.
It's really hard to compare the two because software-wise they may be on the same level, but just about everything else is different. I've owned both the Z1 and the N5 and I plan to get the Z1S the day it comes out.
They're so different because of the size. I truly felt like the Z1 was the size of a "phablet," and yes I hate that term but for lack of a better word, I'll use it. I had trouble fitting the Z1 in my pocket whereas the N5 was a perfect form factor for me. If you're dead set on getting KitKat and the latest updates, Nexus 5 or Moto X are your best choices (Moto X got KitKat before the Nexus 4, which was impressive). I've used the Moto X as my daily driver for a few weeks and have zero complaints. Switching carriers, however, is bringing me back into the market of new phones on T-Mobile.
Anyway, I really suggest trying to go to a Sony store to see the Z1. You're in for a very rude awakening if one-handed use is of utmost priority. I think I have normal-sized hands and the phone felt very large. I owned the G2 as well (which I would HIGHLY recommend you consider) and it was every bit as good as the Sony in every way sans build quality. It's fine, but, it's no Sony! Sony has a truly unique, high-end design. The penalty, however, is the bulk and weight. Also, even though the G2 and Z1 had the same battery size, the G2 lasted WAY longer on a charge for me.
To be honest there is no bad choice and I don't know if I made your decision any easier, but there's my objective thoughts on each of the phones. We're fortunate to have to make these hard decisions because really, you cannot go wrong.
On a final note, I found the battery life to be unacceptable on the N5 which was my reason for return. I also found it had extreme difficulty picking up and keeping a signal in comparison to the Moto X. Sometimes we forget that phones need to, well, work as phones and signal strength is a top priority for me.
Cheers!
-Collin-
Here is my hands on comparison between the two. Maybe that will help you to make up your mind. I would choose the Z1 without a doubt.
Like @NanoSurfer already says: all boils down to personal preference
I was also comparing this 2 devices. I like to have the newest OS, but I also like to have a device that is not only a plastic-bomb. So my preference went to Sony and Z1 because of the design and the specs that alltogether make my decision easy. Sure, 4.4 is out, Nexus devices had it and the number of CustomROMs is not so small. But, when the time comes, we also get 4.4 and with this there would be some other ROMs available.
I didn't see it mentioned anywhere in this thread so I'm bringing it up. The Xperia Z1 Compact is IP58 waterproof (continuous submersion at 1.5m), so on that account you can't really compare the two... and by that I mean that between the top of the line specs in a small form factor, the support for external storage, the premium feel from the Xperia Z1, the far above average developer support from the manufacturer and the waterproofing, I'd certainly have the Xperia Z1 Compact above literally any other smartphone available on the market today.
That said there are obviously pros to the Nexus 5 as well, such as the extreme level of community development going on, the wireless charging and the speedy official updates.
Compared to the Nexus 5 I think the Z1 Compact will have better battery life as well, on account of it having the same amperage battery, slightly slower clock frequency and lower (but still definitely high enough) resolution.
In the end the Z1 Compact is a clear winner in my book.
I share the exact same thoughts. Can't believe I glossed over the water-proofing in my initial comparison
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It's really hard to compare the two because software-wise they may be on the same level, but just about everything else is different. I've owned both the Z1 and the N5 and I plan to get the Z1S the day it comes out.
They're so different because of the size. I truly felt like the Z1 was the size of a "phablet," and yes I hate that term but for lack of a better word, I'll use it. I had trouble fitting the Z1 in my pocket whereas the N5 was a perfect form factor for me. If you're dead set on getting KitKat and the latest updates, Nexus 5 or Moto X are your best choices (Moto X got KitKat before the Nexus 4, which was impressive). I've used the Moto X as my daily driver for a few weeks and have zero complaints. Switching carriers, however, is bringing me back into the market of new phones on T-Mobile.
Anyway, I really suggest trying to go to a Sony store to see the Z1. You're in for a very rude awakening if one-handed use is of utmost priority. I think I have normal-sized hands and the phone felt very large. I owned the G2 as well (which I would HIGHLY recommend you consider) and it was every bit as good as the Sony in every way sans build quality. It's fine, but, it's no Sony! Sony has a truly unique, high-end design. The penalty, however, is the bulk and weight. Also, even though the G2 and Z1 had the same battery size, the G2 lasted WAY longer on a charge for me.
To be honest there is no bad choice and I don't know if I made your decision any easier, but there's my objective thoughts on each of the phones. We're fortunate to have to make these hard decisions because really, you cannot go wrong.
On a final note, I found the battery life to be unacceptable on the N5 which was my reason for return. I also found it had extreme difficulty picking up and keeping a signal in comparison to the Moto X. Sometimes we forget that phones need to, well, work as phones and signal strength is a top priority for me.
Cheers!
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I've thought about the G2 its an awesome device with a huge battery and fits the hand perfectly but i got turned off by the horrible Android layout of LG and the plastic build quality. plus its more expensive than the Z1 Compact & Nexus 5 at least in my country.
I used to love Sony-Ericsson mobile before the Android era and especially now that they finally announce the Z1 compact which is the Z1S high end specs and not so large for one hand use made it so appealing to me
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I've thought about the G2 its an awesome device with a huge battery and fits the hand perfectly but i got turned off by the horrible Android layout of LG and the plastic build quality. plus its more expensive than the Z1 Compact & Nexus 5 at least in my country.
I used to love Sony-Ericsson mobile before the Android era and especially now that they finally announce the Z1 compact which is the Z1S high end specs and not so large for one hand use made it so appealing to me
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Why do people keep talking about the Z1S? You know it's just the Z1 with T-Mobile support, plastic frame and a larger body right?
EDIT: The Z1S is literally a cheaper-to-manufacture, higher-margain-for-carrier, version of the Z1.
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Here is my hands on comparison between the two. Maybe that will help you to make up your mind. I would choose the Z1 without a doubt.
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awesome review
Rekoil said:
Why do people keep talking about the Z1S? You know it's just the Z1 with T-Mobile support, plastic frame and a larger body right?
EDIT: The Z1S is literally a cheaper-to-manufacture, higher-margain-for-carrier, version of the Z1.
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Unfortunately that's correct, but the addition of wifi calling is why I have to go with that version. When I step inside my building at work, T-mo drops and I rely on the wifi. The normal Z1 doesn't have it obviously.
I cannot believe they made this BIGGER! I mean, the Z1 is big, but why would this one be bigger? Argh.
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Hi all.I want to buy one of these two devices I'm interested what is better choise camera,rom development etc? Tnx in advance
slobo2712 said:
Hi all.I want to buy one of these two devices I'm interested what is better choise camera,rom development etc? Tnx in advance
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Build wise
Sony
Camera wise
Sony
Rom wise
Sony
Hope that clears things up for you LOL!
I'm not against Samsung or what ever, not at all.
We can all see what phone is build better. Camera wise, I'd say the S4 is better by default, but if you tweak the XZ's camera it can be better for sure.
Stock rom the XZ also wins. Custom roms.... well in the end they all run on Android, so the difference really isn't that big.
Dsteppa said:
Build wise
Sony
Camera wise
Sony
Rom wise
Sony
Hope that clears things up for you LOL!
I'm not against Samsung or what ever, not at all.
We can all see what phone is build better. Camera wise, I'd say the S4 is better by default, but if you tweak the XZ's camera it can be better for sure.
Stock rom the XZ also wins. Custom roms.... well in the end they all run on Android, so the difference really isn't that big.
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Tnx for clear answer,I've seen some comparisons on youtube about camera and S4 was better when taking picture in day light and low light,but that was old videos with older android,so today is different?btw. I know about build wise there is no doubt...
As a sony funboy,i have to admir that, in low lighf samsunf is way better, but if compare with real life view, samsung looks like crap, greens is not green, blue is not blue. Just crayon colours.
As my tought, samsung's gui looks like cildish, still like android 2.1.
Still i suggest everybody around me to buy samsung. Just to make them suffer. Ahhaha.
For real. Goto one ofe electronic store. Get both of them in your hand. use both of them for awile. With which one you feel better, get it. All new smartphones are powerfull enoght to handle all kind of applications.
Most importand thing is, will you be happy one mounth later you bought device.
Best regards.
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Tnx for clear answer,I've seen some comparisons on youtube about camera and S4 was better when taking picture in day light and low light,but that was old videos with older android,so today is different?btw. I know about build wise there is no doubt...
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I disagree on that one.
I think the XZ is one of the bests when it comes to taking pictures in daylight, when there is barely any light it's one of the worst!!!
Take a look at some pictures I made more then a year ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41689369&postcount=357
That should clear things up for you.
Just don't use the default settings when taking pictures.
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I disagree on that one.
I think the XZ is one of the bests when it comes to taking pictures in daylight, when there is barely any light it's one of the worst!!!
Take a look at some pictures I made more then a year ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41689369&postcount=357
That should clear things up for you.
Just don't use the default settings when taking pictures.
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Really great quality,what about led flash is it good?
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Really great quality,what about led flash is it good?
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In my opinion it isn't I just avoid taking pictures in the dark, when using the flash, I prefer to use torch instead of the actual flash. (Torch keeps your led on instead of flashing.)
I was also considering the S4 before I got the Z. What I learned so far:
S4:
+better screen (although a lot of the devices has an issue called purple smearing, some claim it's a software bug, some claim it's hw..who knows; it is certainly better than Z's - which is also pretty good)
+better camera (really isn't much to tell, maybe z1's and z2's can match the S4 camera's quality, Samsung flagships are always stong in this category)
+better harware (no brainer: SnapDragon 600 vs S4 Pro, it is better... avoid the Exynos 8-core one: no LTE)
+more customs ROMs, if you don't care for warranty, there's a world of ROMs to discover on the S4
+more software features (TouchWiz hits hard here, Sony hasn't got anything up against Air Gestures and the many-many more features of S4)
-worse design (Sony Z is really a looker, even looks more sexy than Z1 IMO because of the matte-black skeleton; S4 is just a pile of plastic, and it's round frame is really prone to damage, even a rubber bumper can damage it)
-worse ROM: 4.4.2. is although not quite as streamlined as previous ROMs for the XZ, Samsung even manage to make a worse one for their S4 (quesion here is are they leaving it like that: Samsung-> I don't think so, Sony-> more likely, no announce of bugfix update yet)
-KNOX: it just sucks
I went for the Z, because of the looks....and I'm happy with it
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I was also considering the S4 before I got the Z. What I learned so far:
S4:
+better screen (although a lot of the devices has an issue called purple smearing, some claim it's a software bug, some claim it's hw..who knows; it is certainly better than Z's - which is also pretty good)
+better camera (really isn't much to tell, maybe z1's and z2's can match the S4 camera's quality, Samsung flagships are always stong in this category)
+better harware (no brainer: SnapDragon 600 vs S4 Pro, it is better... avoid the Exynos 8-core one: no LTE)
+more customs ROMs, if you don't care for warranty, there's a world of ROMs to discover on the S4
+more software features (TouchWiz hits hard here, Sony hasn't got anything up against Air Gestures and the many-many more features of S4)
-worse design (Sony Z is really a looker, even looks more sexy than Z1 IMO because of the matte-black skeleton; S4 is just a pile of plastic, and it's round frame is really prone to damage, even a rubber bumper can damage it)
-worse ROM: 4.4.2. is although not quite as streamlined as previous ROMs for the XZ, Samsung even manage to make a worse one for their S4 (quesion here is are they leaving it like that: Samsung-> I don't think so, Sony-> more likely, no announce of bugfix update yet)
-KNOX: it just sucks
I went for the Z, because of the looks....and I'm happy with it
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Really thanx for such answer but even more im not sure what to buy now
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Really thanx for such answer but even more im not sure what to buy now
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Get a G2 if you can:good: they're not that expensive now, better than both (by far)
dSERiES said:
Get a G2 if you can:good: they're not that expensive now, better than both (by far)
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LG fanboy here.. Buy then better the Z2
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !
Pandemic said:
LG fanboy here.. Buy then better the Z2
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !
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oh the Irony...by the way you may want to check and compare the price of the z2 and the lg g2...I think the lg g2 is a bit more..accesible? like the xz and s4
My shop can't get rid of your last G2. Been trying to basically give it away for 2 months.
Sony all the way. Far better than most of the alternatives and you doubt have to deal with that crappy interface Samsung uses.
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LG fanboy here.. Buy then better the Z2
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !
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Not at all. I own a Z and I love it, as I've said previously. G2 is just near-the-same price category as Z snd S4 nowadays, that's why I recommended it (by saying get a G2 I automatically became an LG fanboy lol ...clever thinking:good
And yes Z2 is an excellent recommendation for someone who is looking for a smartphone in the price range of the XZ and SGS4
Samsung has Knox, Sony does not, making it much more user friendly when it comes to flashing
Check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45666586
No solution in sight for Samsung fanboys
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No I dont like LG phones at all,what is knox?I dont want to buy new phone..?tnx
Dammit you people are hijacking this topic! He want's to know XZ vs S4
Stop confusing him!:silly::silly::angel:
P.S. I haven't forgotten your pictures
The Z looks good, the S4 looks ugly.
Oke straight to the point:
XZ is a piece of art with glass and the 1st flagship of Sony, great in performance and a very nice phone and very good custom roms for it ^^
Samsung GS4:
A piece of plastic, comes from the kids store where they sell toys, worse phone and cant tip on the XZ and touchwiz s*cks
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !
Hi all. I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S3 and I'm thinking about buying the Xperia Z3 Compact. Everything about the phone seems great, but with Sony's bi-annual update cycle, I'm not sure what to do. Is it worth it to wait another 3 or so months for a yet unannounced Z4 compact? Or pull the trigger on this?
Thank you.
I don't think z4 will have great improvements.. I have a z3 compact and its great..
There is no official word about a z4 compact
Go for it man! I doubt you'll ever be half satisfied with this. I've had this since December and i'm only loving it more and more
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Z4 Compact? Z2 Compact has never been released, IMVHO the next compact phone will be Z5C
Dsteppa said:
There is no official word about a z4 compact
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Yeah, I know. Just trying to think ahead, but at the rate technology is moving, there's no way to keep up. Thank you very much all. I'll make the purchase. Like I said, I've only seen great things about this device.
Bzow said:
Yeah, I know. Just trying to think ahead, but at the rate technology is moving, there's no way to keep up. Thank you very much all. I'll make the purchase. Like I said, I've only seen great things about this device.
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The difference between the Z1 and Z3 compact are pretty minimal tbh
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There is no official word about a z4 compact
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yea so far there're only rumors and i'm quite happy with the Z3 compact. i think you should go for the Z3 compact if you really like it.
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The difference between the Z1 and Z3 compact are pretty minimal tbh
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i have owned both of the devices. my old Z1 compact was stolen 4 months ago (damn the thief). so i've been using the Z3 compact for 4 months.
honestly the performance does have some difference. you can clearly feel the Z3 compact is more smooth. but if you are not super sensitive then both devices are good.
another thing is the Z1 compact has the metal frame around. it feels much sturdy and real. while Z3 compact has it changed to plastic. it still looks good. but feels a bit differently. however, the Z3 compact has the glass back cover. even though it doesn't feel much difference comparing to the Z1 compact... i can't tell the back cover of Z1 compact is actually plastic.
so all in all.. from Z1c to Z3c it's for sure a progress. but not too much.
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yea so far there're only rumors and i'm quite happy with the Z3 compact. i think you should go for the Z3 compact if you really like it.
i have owned both of the devices. my old Z1 compact was stolen 4 months ago (damn the thief). so i've been using the Z3 compact for 4 months.
honestly the performance does have some difference. you can clearly feel the Z3 compact is more smooth. but if you are not super sensitive then both devices are good.
another thing is the Z1 compact has the metal frame around. it feels much sturdy and real. while Z3 compact has it changed to plastic. it still looks good. but feels a bit differently. however, the Z3 compact has the glass back cover. even though it doesn't feel much difference comparing to the Z1 compact... i can't tell the back cover of Z1 compact is actually plastic.
so all in all.. from Z1c to Z3c it's for sure a progress. but not too much.
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The display is MUCH better on z3c. My brother has a z1c and the colours on z3c are far better
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Furthermore there are different return policies in different countries. Means you can return it in a certain period of time if you dont like it depending on your country and your retail selling policy.
The phone may not shine in every area but it definitely has its strong sides as regards battery, raw power, size , the ability to withstand water and the easy upgradeable storage space with a micro sd. The dedicated camera button i also find a nice addition.
Downsides are the reported awful customer service (also dependant on your reseller, so read the return policies carefully) , the non replaceable battery and the somehow fragile feeling this phone gives. But this can be solved with a case or the choice of a good protection plan. The camera is as good as expected, not outstanding but not terribly bad either. If i want to shoot good photos I would not use a smartphone anyway. Also if you are a heavy multimedia consumer you might want to check out bigger phones. At last the inbuilt flashlight is pretty weak. So if you want to use your phone as a flashlight you might want to look another way also .
The Iphone 5s is really the only contester worth comparing it to, but i would choose android over ios always. If you dont care about this and need the same one handed usability (this ofc also depends on your hand size )then the 5s might be worth a look.
Now with root available with locked BL i would always recommend this phone no matter what. When it runs it runs fast, reliable and efficient and will get you through a day of heavy or 3 days of light/moderate usage. Which is the main and most important point for me.
I own the phone for 4 months now and never ran into a problem which could not be solved. I would not buy a different one.
Went from Galaxy S3 to Z3 Compact. Couldn't have asked for anything better really
Well i took the plunge and bought the Orange Z3 compact, even after reading some of these threads on some of the faults. I have come from a HTC M8, and i must say, this Z3, is one of the best phones i have ever had, the size of the phone is perfect for me, i never liked big phones, they seemed a bit silly for me.
I am still on stock, i haven't rooted the Z3, but i did root all my previous phones, and in all honestly rooting this phone is the last thing on my mind, it is brilliant as it is, lighting fast, and there is more customization, than any previous phone i have had.
And NO i am not a Sony Fanboy, neither am i being paid by Sony, These are my thoughts, i am so glad i did buy this phone, only thing i miss is a decent weather widget.
So all in all , best thing to do is check the phone out for yourself, then only you can make your decision, never let any one make the decision for you.
Can only confirm the above posts - also coming from a S3. I can promise you - even if you don't root the Z3 right away you will not turn on your S3 anymore. The Z3 outperforms the S3 by a landslide and (in my opinion) even the current, bigger and more expensive "flagships" from other companies by some degree.
My only "mistake" was not looking here before buying it, it was an impulse buy mainly because of the form factor and pure specs (SD card a big one, too). Was a bit annoyed because of not being able to root, actually with the Z3 it was the longest time I spent with an unrooted device ever. But: the positives outweighed the negatives and in the end root is finally available, making this device even better than it is with stock firmware. I'm also happy the constant chase for "the best" custom ROM is finally over, can't imagine how I could ever bare the hassle I had with previous phones/tablets. Stock is just fine and the Z3 does what it is supposed to.
As for the other problems mentioned in these forums:
- front/back glass breaking sponteanously: I use a tempered glass screen protector for the display, nothing for the back. the phone sits in a no name TPU case, I only had to put some work to the slot for the magnetic charger. No cracks whatsoever (yet) - and I'm known to be a magnet for disaster...
- flash LED: compared to your S3 you will probably think: "hey, is this thing really on ??"
It really is weak, but then again - if you need a reliable light, get a Maglite with some batteries to spare. This is a phone. In most cases I use a simple app that simply turns the screen on white at full brightness, that's more than enough for my taste.
- being slippery/attracting dirt: yes. Especially the black one if you intend to use it without a case. It's my first phone that rests constantly in a case, otherwise I would be pushing my luck... I would try to get the white or red one if you can't stand smudges when using it without a case.
- speaker quality: well, look at the size... it ain't good, but not too bad either.
- camera: as mentioned before, not brilliant, but not crap too (even with unlocked BL). It's ok for snapshots mostly.
Biggest pros as mentioned: performance, battery life and (after rooting) full use of the SD card combined with small size and a all in all great display. Being "waterproof" is an added bonus - though I would never take it to the shower or otherwise test this - I just hope it survives the occasional heavy rainstorms I get caught in from time to time when out with the dogs.
I did not regret buying it without contract for the full price.
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Schumi 01 said:
i am so glad i did buy this phone, only thing i miss is a decent weather widget.
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Well, OT :
there are millions of weather apps/widgets out there, I always come back to:
- Arcus Weather
- Weather Timeline
- Weather Pro
Currently I'm using weather pro as this is (at least for me for my region of Germany) the most precise one and I got some play store credit for my chromecast so I gave it a try for a year of pro usage. Not disappointed so far !
The other two are pretty solid, too.
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Well, OT :
there are millions of weather apps/widgets out there, I always come back to:
- Arcus Weather
- Weather Timeline
- Weather Pro
Currently I'm using weather pro as this is (at least for me for my region of Germany) the most precise one and I got some play store credit for my chromecast so I gave it a try for a year of pro usage. Not disappointed so far !
The other two are pretty solid, too.
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Thanks will check them out. :good:
Rumors Z4C, it was from a reliable place. Don't remember now, but well see in MWC next month
4.7" screen
3GB ram
Sexier then Z3C, which is sexier then Z1C
Open USB and Jack, still IP68 rated
Qualcomm 810 cat. 9
Quad or Octa core, don't remember.
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3GB ram
Sexier then Z3C, which is sexier then Z1C
Open USB and Jack, still IP68 rated
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Well, that would be an improvement. 3 gigs ?
Never understood why the Z3c can be waterproof whilst relying on flaps when the jack is open... ?
shafiq01 said:
Rumors Z4C, it was from a reliable place. Don't remember now, but well see in MWC next month
4.7" screen
3GB ram
Sexier then Z3C, which is sexier then Z1C
Open USB and Jack, still IP68 rated
Qualcomm 810 cat. 9
Quad or Octa core, don't remember.
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To be honest, I don't think there'll be a Z4C for quite a while as from what I've heard Sony is planning to change their release schedule, to one highend phone per year. Mainly because that is what certain customers want and that Sonys budget ain't that good right now. Developing a new phone costs a ton of money.
Also, please tell me what that source is as this sounds like fake and unjustified rumors.
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Folks, if you don't like a post somebody else has made, and, feel it may violate XDA rules, then just "Report Post" instead of replying to it, and creating multiple posts back and forth that a Mod will have to come in and clean.
Simple enough?
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Sptz said:
Went from Galaxy S3 to Z3 Compact. Couldn't have asked for anything better really
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Same here [emoji106]
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GethPrime said:
To be honest, I don't think there'll be a Z4C for quite a while as from what I've heard Sony is planning to change their release schedule, to one highend phone per year. Mainly because that is what certain customers want and that Sonys budget ain't that good right now. Developing a new phone costs a ton of money.
Also, please tell me what that source is as this sounds like fake and unjustified rumors.
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If these rumors are true, then maybe they will launch their last compact model, before retiring.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/02/18/sonys-smartphone-surrender-abandoning-the-xperia/
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If these rumors are true, then maybe they will launch their last compact model, before retiring.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/02/18/sonys-smartphone-surrender-abandoning-the-xperia/
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And the before mentioned rumor, I think it could be reliable, gsmarena.com usually hit spot on. Maybe its not true??
http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z4_gets_certified_by_japanese_wireless_authority-news-10798.php
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