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Hello,
I have a problem to solve, here is the situation:
next week i will go to the usa for about a month. i have an unlocked nexus one and need some data plan to connect and to use voip to call family/friends. do you know if t-mobile data plans (i want to use 3g and i think that n1 works only with t-mobile) will work with voip, or is it blocked completely?
budget: $50/month with no termination fee...
thx for all the help.
There are two versions for different radio bands, one for t-mo one for att. I don't think either provides prepaid data cards.
As evilkorn pointed out, you do need to figure out what radio bands your nexus uses.
Tmobile Radio-
If it's tmobile, then it will be fairly simple to do, but it will cost you $60 a month, with no contract. Tmobile offers two kinds of plans, one with contract, and one without. The one with no contract is called "Even more Plus". For $60 you get 500 minutes, unlimited text and 5GB of data. Here's the link: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=tb1&rateplan=Even-More-Plus-500-Talk-Text-Web
AT&T Radio-
If it's AT&T, it will be tricky. You'll have to get an Ipad plan, which is $30 a month for 2GB and no contract. You then change the APN settings on your nexus to match an Ipad. Here's a link to do that: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=177297ea7cd4781c&hl=en
But to get an Ipad plan, is very tricky. You'll have to use the method suggested here:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=928196
Since you aren't from the USA you'll have to go to an AT&T store to buy a SIM, instead of ordering it like they suggest.
Hope this helped and good luck!
thx for answers!
i have got tmobile freq nexus one (so it works here in europe)
shouldnt the data only plan be sufficient? tmobile's Even More Plus Smartphone Unlimited Web & E-mail or Even More Plus webConnect® Overage Free Plan? or i need to have plans with talk minutes which i dont need at all...
It appears you could use one of those (I'm on At&t and not to familiar tmobile plans), but I didn't even think about there being an activation fee. So even with the $39.99 data only plan, you would still have an additional $35 activation fee.
You could try calling tmobile and tell them your only going to be there for a month, and if your lucky they might wave the activation fee. After signing up over the phone (because there is pretty much zero chance they would do this in a store) you could then go pick up a sim in there store.
Let us know how it works out!
T-Mobile has a $40 data only plan as well.
For context let me say that I live in the US, currently on Verizon, but not on contract. I have been waiting since February for a device worthy of upgrading from my Droid Incredible. This is the phone for me.
Given that the US carriers seem incapable of getting new high-end hardware (7 months for SGSII to launch here is the US!!!), and that there has been no announcement of this phone on any US carrier, I am planning for the worst.
I am unfamiliar with GSM networks, having been on Verizon's CDMA for 10+years. My understanding is that I simply need a SIM card from a GSM carrier, say AT&T, and an "unlocked" GSNote from the UK. Is there any risk this won't work? I would hate to spend a ton of money for a phone I can't use.
Any news on a US release.
The galaxy note selling right now is unlock and the 3G band will work on AT&T USA 850/1900 bands and get edge on tmobile.
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3G > Edge?
Does it use standard SIM or the new Micro SIM?
Any suggestions on where / who to buy from in UK? Reputable seller.
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Seth Turner said:
3G > Edge?
Does it use standard SIM or the new Micro SIM?
Any suggestions on where / who to buy from in UK? Reputable seller.
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Yes, 3G > EDGE. EDGE is the GSM equivalent to 1x.
The biggest benefit of GSM network is the ability to swap phones around by just swapping the sim card as long the phone is network unlocked.
GNote from europe is network unlocked.
All you have to do is visit and att store, get a sim and a plan.
Once u get a sim and a number, u can put it in any gsm phone and use it .
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3G > Edge?
Does it use standard SIM or the new Micro SIM?
Any suggestions on where / who to buy from in UK? Reputable seller.
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Im using AT&T and I order the device from mobilecotyonline.com but no ETA but negrielectronics have instock also in the US the two retailers sell the unlock device with AT&T 3G bands and regular SIM Card.
Buy an unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note. Put it on Straight Talk Mobile prepaid for $45/month which uses AT&T's network. You would have to buy a refurbed Nokia E71 phone for $99 to do it and put the sim card in the Note with some settings changes. You get unlimited talk/text/data with no contract using AT&T's 3G network.
I too must have this device. My contract with verizon ends in a couple of weeks and i was planning to renew and get the galaxy nexus but after seeing the galaxy note, well....anyway i'd like to wait for the korean release of the note since it's supposed to have lte. will that model work on verizon or do i need to switch to at&t no matter what? if the lte note will work on verizon, i was thinking getting the nexus with contract renewal and then selling it to get the note.
Seth - I can recommend Expansys.co.uk
Received mine the day after they got it in stock.
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I too must have this device. My contract with verizon ends in a couple of weeks and i was planning to renew and get the galaxy nexus but after seeing the galaxy note, well....anyway i'd like to wait for the korean release of the note since it's supposed to have lte. will that model work on verizon or do i need to switch to at&t no matter what? if the lte note will work on verizon, i was thinking getting the nexus with contract renewal and then selling it to get the note.
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Verizon uses CDMA which is not compatible if the Korean version is GSM. Only way is if it was released as a world phone with both CDMA and GSM built in.
What about speeds?
It sounds like getting a European version will limit the data speeds here in the US due to compatibility of data technology faster than 3G. I don't know if T-Mobile or AT&T have anything faster than 3G, but the CDMA carriers (Sprint and Verizon) have 4G (WiMax/LTE) data.
So I could wait for any US carrier to offer it, but it seems only Sprint or Verizon would provide high speed data. If only T-Mobile or AT&T carry it I would do better to get one from UK to get it earlier.
Of course all these issues would go away if US carriers would get decent f'ing hardware!!!
Why is it that all the good stuff launches in Europe first anyway?
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It sounds like getting a European version will limit the data speeds here in the US due to compatibility of data technology faster than 3G. I don't know if T-Mobile or AT&T have anything faster than 3G, but the CDMA carriers (Sprint and Verizon) have 4G (WiMax/LTE) data.
So I could wait for any US carrier to offer it, but it seems only Sprint or Verizon would provide high speed data. If only T-Mobile or AT&T carry it I would do better to get one from UK to get it earlier.
Of course all these issues would go away if US carriers would get decent f'ing hardware!!!
Why is it that all the good stuff launches in Europe first anyway?
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I almost sure for thi syear non US carrier launch the Note,You can wait to see but if you like a carrier have this device remember just AT&T 3G?HSPA+ version pass the FCC till the moment and I think is because they know users in the US sure buy this device and they test to skip future problems not because a carrier in the US have this.
I am a bit confused. Would it have faster than 3G data if it was released on T-Mobile or AT&T as opposed to importing one from Europe?
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I am a bit confused. Would it have faster than 3G data if it was released on T-Mobile or AT&T as opposed to importing one from Europe?
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The speed of your device is influence by your carrier the device is ready to run like from 28 to 40 M,sorry don‘t be more specific but you can check the database of the device.
OP, if you leave Verizon for AT&T you'll get HSPA+ speeds (aka: fake 4G). You can typically expect 3MBish down in areas where AT&T hasn't upgraded their backhaul and 6-8MB down where they have. Anybody that uses a non-AWS device on T-Mobile is nuts.
Because the device isn't recognized on AT&T's network you can save a bunch of money on voice and data. You can get a $39.99 450 minute voice plan (900 = $59.99) with 5,000 nights and weekends minutes (900 = unlimited). Add unlimited messaging with mobile to any mobile calling (any mobile on any carrier) for $20 and you can add unlimited data for $10 on the data for non-Smartphones plan. So you're close to a truly unlimited plan for $69.99 a month. Also, if you bring your own equipment (tell them you're using a Moto Krzr) you can go contract-less and leave any time you want. I did this in May coming from T-Mobile when I got my ISGS2. I don't know if you travel internationally but, if you do, having AT&T and an unlocked phone is a joy. They have great international data roaming plans and you can also buy a pay-as-you-go plan in any country you visit and just pop the SIM in to the Note. If you want to go the route I described you have to do it over the phone, it can't be done online.
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I am a bit confused. Would it have faster than 3G data if it was released on T-Mobile or AT&T as opposed to importing one from Europe?
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No, HSPA+ is the fastest speed you can get on AT&T short of LTE. The ASGS2 and ISGS2 get the same speeds on AT&T's network with a theoretical max of 21MB down. If AT&T introduces an LTE version of the Note then yes, that would be faster. T-Mobile's a non-starter because: A) they use funky bands that aren't typically supported by international devices, and B) they'll probably be gone soon anyway.
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OP, if you leave Verizon for AT&T you'll get HSPA+ speeds (aka: fake 4G). You can typically expect 3MBish down in areas where AT&T hasn't upgraded their backhaul and 6-8MB down where they have. Anybody that uses a non-AWS device on T-Mobile is nuts.
Because the device isn't recognized on AT&T's network you can save a bunch of money on voice and data. You can get a $39.99 450 minute voice plan (900 = $59.99) with 5,000 nights and weekends minutes (900 = unlimited). Add unlimited messaging with mobile to any mobile calling (any mobile on any carrier) for $20 and you can add unlimited data for $10 on the data for non-Smartphones plan. So you're close to a truly unlimited plan for $69.99 a month. Also, if you bring your own equipment (tell them you're using a Moto Krzr) you can go contract-less and leave any time you want. I did this in May coming from T-Mobile when I got my ISGS2. I don't know if you travel internationally but, if you do, having AT&T and an unlocked phone is a joy. They have great international data roaming plans and you can also buy a pay-as-you-go plan in any country you visit and just pop the SIM in to the Note. If you want to go the route I described you have to do it over the phone, it can't be done online
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thnx, this is probably exactly what i'll do since i'm coming from verizon as well. but i think i'm gonna wait for the release of the lte version in korea and import that. will at&t send me a sim card with new service??
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OP, if you leave Verizon for AT&T you'll get HSPA+ speeds (aka: fake 4G). You can typically expect 3MBish down in areas where AT&T hasn't upgraded their backhaul and 6-8MB down where they have. Anybody that uses a non-AWS device on T-Mobile is nuts.
Because the device isn't recognized on AT&T's network you can save a bunch of money on voice and data. You can get a $39.99 450 minute voice plan (900 = $59.99) with 5,000 nights and weekends minutes (900 = unlimited). Add unlimited messaging with mobile to any mobile calling (any mobile on any carrier) for $20 and you can add unlimited data for $10 on the data for non-Smartphones plan. So you're close to a truly unlimited plan for $69.99 a month. Also, if you bring your own equipment (tell them you're using a Moto Krzr) you can go contract-less and leave any time you want. I did this in May coming from T-Mobile when I got my ISGS2. I don't know if you travel internationally but, if you do, having AT&T and an unlocked phone is a joy. They have great international data roaming plans and you can also buy a pay-as-you-go plan in any country you visit and just pop the SIM in to the Note. If you want to go the route I described you have to do it over the phone, it can't be done online.
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Thank you for this suggestion. I am coming from T-mobile and I will switch over to AT&T because I need fast internet speed for the Note.
BarryH_GEG said:
Because the device isn't recognized on AT&T's network you can save a bunch of money on voice and data.
Also, if you bring your own equipment (tell them you're using a Moto Krzr) you can go contract-less and leave any time you want. I did this in May coming from T-Mobile when I got my ISGS2.
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once the ISGS2 got released on AT&T, don't they notice? or they still don't because it's a different model number?
- Frank
leaverus said:
thnx, this is probably exactly what i'll do since i'm coming from verizon as well. but i think i'm gonna wait for the release of the lte version in korea and import that. will at&t send me a sim card with new service??
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Two things. The Korean versions of Samsung products are optimized for the two Korean carriers. They are tri-band, not quad-band like the rest of the world and don't support AT&T's bands. Also, LTE is a moving target. There are over a dozen different spectrums in use worldwide so there's no assurance a device designated LTE will work with a specific carrier. VZW and AT&T both use the 700 series bands yet their devices are incompatible.
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once the ISGS2 got released on AT&T, don't they notice? or they still don't because it's a different model number?
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They can detect a phone's model based on its IMEI. They don't have the IMEI's for international phones in their database. The exception being Google phones (including the new Galaxy Nexus) because Google makes that data available to them. So they can't identify an ISGS2 as a smartphone. The ASGS2 is both a different model number and they have the IMEIs for all of those models produced.
Might suggest sticking with Verizon buy the phone out right and get the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Mobile Hotspot then use that as your data and if you need to talk VOIP / SIP never worry about min. Benefit you can use the MIFI on your laptop and any other Wifi enabled devices. Other benefit is the price a heck of a lot cheaper than those Cell contracts. Just an idea..
I am due for an upgrade from my old Rhodium.
If I buy the Vivid will AT&T force any changes to my existing $15/month data plan due to the LTE feature?
My understanding is that LTE can not be turned off is this true?
In a non LTE area (SoCal) would the phone just connect at a lower speed and consume less battery?
Does this phone need a new sim card and would that be for my cost?
Sorry for the newb questions.
There might be a chance that you could keep your plan, but the MediaMax isn't really for smartphones. The best chance of keeping your plan is to do your upgrade through the website so that no one will review your account, because once someone checks it and changes it for you, there is no turning back even if you speak to a supervisor.
Samsat, you tried it yet? Did it let you use MediaMax with the Vivid or AT&T detected the IMEI and switched you to a smartphone data plan?
Actually LTE is running in many parts of Socal
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Unfortunately those old media data plans that att/Cingular offered years back will not be grandfathered to New smartphone unlimited plans. You'd have to.choose between the three that are currently offered (200mb, 2gb, 4gb)
Also, an LTE data plan and LTE compatible SIM card are required for data to work at all on the LTE devices. Not even a hspa+ data plan would work
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I went thru this too just get the phone don't do anything go to a att store tell the clerk what you wanna do as in keeping the unlimited but switching it to the LTE and he or she will fix u up I'm running LTE and still have my unlimited
Sorry I miss read the question no it should not
so what would happen if I take an AT&T sim card out of a 3g dumb phone and put it into a HTC vivid?
-Sim card won't be recognized?
-Sim card recognized but data won't work?
-Or data (EDGE/3g/LTE) works but it detected IMEI and require upgrade to a smartphone data plan?
sna said:
so what would happen if I take an AT&T sim card out of a 3g dumb phone and put it into a HTC vivid?
-Sim card won't be recognized?
-Sim card recognized but data won't work?
-Or data (EDGE/3g/LTE) works but it detected IMEI and require upgrade to a smartphone data plan?
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ATT sim out of any phone without the LTE plan won't work. I went from the SGS2 to the Vivid and my data didn't work till they added the LTE plan. You also need the Visual Voicemail added too. I went back to a SGS2, but haven't tried putting the sim back in the Vivid yet though.
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Also, an LTE data plan and LTE compatible SIM card are required for data to work at all on the LTE devices. Not even a hspa+ data plan would work
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THAT is not true.
The vivid will get data with the old Sim. HSPA+ in fact. But it won't get LTE.
The skyrocket will get no data.
I saw proof of this, this week when a coworker with a vivid could not understand why my vivid had LTE and his did not... He went to the AT&T store and they realized he had a non LTE Sim.
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ATT sim out of any phone without the LTE plan won't work. I went from the SGS2 to the Vivid and my data didn't work till they added the LTE plan. You also need the Visual Voicemail added too. I went back to a SGS2, but haven't tried putting the sim back in the Vivid yet though.
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AT&T 3g data plan will be a problem.
The Sim should work, but you will start getting "hate texts"from AT&T telling you that you need a 4g data plan because they will see the hspa data transfer.
There is actually no difference in the plans and I had no issue getting hspa, but I think it's a mechanism so AT&T can catch people who are trying to do exactly what is being suggested here.
This happened to me when I went from my Dell streak to the sgs2
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Thanks for the replies.
With all the Vivid hate speech (locked bootloader, CIQ, whose returning etc.) going on I still have not done an upgrade.
ATT told me though that the phone comes with a new sim card in the box. I have an existing 200MB data plan which I plan to continue if and when I get the Vivid.
Hopefully the dust will settle soon and I can then decide which phone to get (definitely not Iphone) but maybe Skyrocket, Vivid, Nitro or something else.
No it will not work on hspa without the LTE plan. I've done this a million times for people
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works for me and I'm on a blackberry plan, just added a differant apn to the phone and clicked the radio button, on hspa+ here.
What if I buy the Canadian Bell version of the phone "HTC Raider" it has all the necessary bands, I just wonder if the imei number will be the same as the Vivid. If it's not the same, I'm pretty sure I can at least get 3G without changing data plans. I'm on the old ATT unlimited medianet plan. Can anyone confirm if the Imei is the same?
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What if I buy the Canadian Bell version of the phone "HTC Raider" it has all the necessary bands, I just wonder if the imei number will be the same as the Vivid. If it's not the same, I'm pretty sure I can at least get 3G without changing data plans. I'm on the old ATT unlimited medianet plan. Can anyone confirm if the Imei is the same?
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The IMEI is unique in each device is like a serial number of the phone itself, but to answer your question the IMEI number of the Canadian bell HTC Raider won't show up in their system as a valid HTC VIVID and you won't be able to have an LTE data plan unless you get an IMEI from someone else HTC VIVID and give it to them by phone so the could put the LTE plan on your account, but in the other hand you might get away with the medianet data plan!!!
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The IMEI is unique in each device is like a serial number of the phone itself, but to answer your question the IMEI number of the Canadian bell HTC Raider won't show up in their system as a valid HTC VIVID and you won't be able to have an LTE data plan unless you get an IMEI from someone else HTC VIVID and give it to them by phone so the could put the LTE plan on your account, but in the other hand you might get away with the medianet data plan!!!
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Thanks..to be honest I would be fine with 3.5G speeds, cause I've been stuck with this European Desire HD that only gets Edge speed!!
I went from the Tilt 2 (Rhodium) to the vivid and am loving the phone. I had an unlimited data plan and I live in an non-lte area. I didn't have to change my plan and they upgraded my sim card no issue.
esloan said:
I went from the Tilt 2 (Rhodium) to the vivid and am loving the phone. I had an unlimited data plan and I live in an non-lte area. I didn't have to change my plan and they upgraded my sim card no issue.
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I had the same results, though LTE is not available in my area I was allowed to keep my unlimited data plan but given an LTE sim and LTE access. My store representative told me they will not be pushing unlimited customers to tiered plans for LTE.
I do not necessarily believe him hence why I took an early upgrade and paid more for my phone.
My advice is to talk to the representative first and hope an an LTE phone immediately if they go with your request.
Before I got my Vivid, I had an iPhone 3GS. I have the Unlimited Data plan, which I get to keep since I was grandfathered in. When I did the upgrade, the AT&T rep had to change my data plan from an "iPhone Unlimited Plan" to a "4G LTE Unlimited Plan" He also had to change my Voicemail plan from "iPhone Visual Voicemail" to the AT&T visual voicemail system. The 4G Unlimited Plan exist, but its only for those people who upgrade from a smartphone such as an iPhone to a 4G phone and are grandfathered in to unlimited data. Also, I think an AT&T rep actually has to do the switch, I dont think its something you can do online, although I haven't tried so I'm not really sure about that one.
Hello,
I recently purchased an unlocked international version GNote GT-N7000.
I went to the ATT local store and told them that I wanted to buy a gophone simcard. They asked me if I had a phone with me, I said no and the simcard is for my friend so I don't know which phone my friend's gonna use.
I got $50 unlimited call, text, data plan, and the rep activated the simcard for me.
After that, I put the simcard into my GNote.
Calls and texts work fine.
I've tried every APN settings on "[GUIDE] Getting your unlocked Note fully functional on AT&T (including MMS)" this thread.
Even the last one that should work for GoPhone plan doesn't work for me.
The Network Mode is set to "GSM/WCDMA".
When I choose "GSM only", some APN settings (about cingular one) worked for a moment with really slow speed (EDGE speed) and went back to not working.
If I left the mode to "GSM/WCDMA", I see 3G, H, H+, these signs and arrows going up and down, and mobile network shows it's connected, but if I open browser or market, none of them works (network error).
What did I do wrong? I can't find any answer from the above thread that I mentioned.
Can you reply your APN settings that work for your GoPhone plan here?
What if I change to different prepaid company, which one works best in SoCal like reception, data speed, and etc?
Anyone use Simple Mobile? cuz I know thay have $40 unlimited everything plan include 3G internet.
Thank you!!
Sorry, but I've never tried making use of GoPhone, so I can't offer assistance there.
Two issues with Simple Mobile.
Their $40 3G plan throttles data to just barely above 2G speeds.
Simple Mobile runs off of the T-Mobile network, which uses 3G/4G (UMTS/HSPA+) frequencies the International Note is currently incapable of using.
Long story short, International Note would be limited to Edge speeds on Simple Mobile. If you want a cheap unlimited plan, go to Straight Talk. If you can manage staying under 100MB of data a day, their $45 Unlimited plan would probably be the way to go. If you prefer 2GB of data per month that you're free to use any way you like, Jolt Mobile offers such a plan for $60/month.
I use Straight Talk on my International Note and the settings in the "How to use your International Note on Straight Talk" settings work for me off the bat: voice, data, sms, and mms. It's $45/month and it runs on AT&T's network. Maybe you could try the APN settings for Straight Talk on your GoPhone plan and see if it works.
If you want to try Straight Talk, you can order a SIM from their website for $15.
at t knows that your using a smartphone.so you need to add a data package to your go phone Sim account
I had the same trouble. The unlimited data us only for their approved phones. And iPhones you cannot even add a data package to their go phone accounts. Att is pure evil
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I use Straight Talk on my International Note and the settings in the "How to use your International Note on Straight Talk" settings work for me off the bat: voice, data, sms, and mms. It's $45/month and it runs on AT&T's network. Maybe you could try the APN settings for Straight Talk on your GoPhone plan and see if it works.
If you want to try Straight Talk, you can order a SIM from their website for $15.
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Noooo it doesn't work for my GoPhone plan =[
So, Straight Talk uses ATT's network? Then I maybe go for Straigh Talk.. I was worried about the coverage because in the website, the map doesn't clearly show the coverage.
Thank you!
snoopycr said:
at t knows that your using a smartphone.so you need to add a data package to your go phone Sim account
I had the same trouble. The unlimited data us only for their approved phones. And iPhones you cannot even add a data package to their go phone accounts. Att is pure evil
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wow... so they know. =[
I don't understand then why they would call the $50 plan as unlimited call, text and data if they are gonna charge extra $$ for smartphone data.
hmmmmm 250 minutes for $25 plan sound little short for me.
maybe I should go for Straight Talk then.
if you do decide to go with Straight Talk, when ordering a sim card from their site, make sure to order the AT&T compatible sim, and you will be set. I just got my N7000 Note Friday and hooked it up with Straight Talk no problem. Speeds are very decent. Good luck.
How's us the data speed for straight talk
Does it work for international unlocked iPhones too
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Straight talk is the best option for unlocked gsm phone. I'm using it on my unlocked Note and iPhone
Data speed is very good. $45 is a great deal for unlimited everything
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I have a LG G2 and I am no longer under contract to Verizon, so I just pay VZW month to month for my service.
My questions here are:
Can I switched to Walmarts Straight Talk with my G2?
Would I still have the same coverage (4G) area on Straight Talk?
Thank you
No one has any info on this?
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No one has any info on this?
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AFAIK you have to buy one of their phones to use CDMA networks. Only the gsm carriers have the bring your own phone on ST.
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AFAIK you have to buy one of their phones to use CDMA networks. Only the gsm carriers have the bring your own phone on ST.
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Isn't the G2 CDMA and GSM capible??
Yes it is.
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There are people who wrote a method to flash a sprint epic to straight talk Verizon towers that works on sprint Note 2s. One of the intermediate steps flashes a vzw phone. CDMA workshop and a little bit of work can make it happen.
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I have a LG G2 and I am no longer under contract to Verizon, so I just pay VZW month to month for my service.
My questions here are:
Can I switched to Walmarts Straight Talk with my G2?
Would I still have the same coverage (4G) area on Straight Talk?
Thank you
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I looked into this a while back, since it sounded so wonderful in the commercials. I don't think Straight Talk offers any 4G service, but I could be wrong. It may be available on their GSM towers. Either way, if you follow the link below for "bring your own phone," then click on CMDA, the next page states BYOP does not work on 4G phones.
http://straighttalkbyop.com/
I seem to remember them selling a 3G Samsung S3 when I was looking into their service. That kind of put me off of them.
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I looked into this a while back, since it sounded so wonderful in the commercials. I don't think Straight Talk offers any 4G service, but I could be wrong. It may be available on their GSM towers. Either way, if you follow the link below for "bring your own phone," then click on CMDA, the next page states BYOP does not work on 4G phones.
http://straighttalkbyop.com/
I seem to remember them selling a 3G Samsung S3 when I was looking into their service. That kind of put me off of them.
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Thank you, I sort of figured maybe it was to good to be true.
Straight talk=3g only and vzw network only. No roaming networks.
trollarc said:
Straight talk=3g only and vzw network only. No roaming networks.
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Another thank you on good info for this.
trollarc said:
Straight talk=3g only and vzw network only. No roaming networks.
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You can get a LTE sim with ATT now on ST. Don't know if you can make it work in a VZW g2, but it should work fine in the ATT g2.
Okay, correction to my post. If you want vzw towers on st you have to have only vzw towers if you have a CDMA only phone. You can fflash to their sprint based service and only have sprint service (probably, not sure if they have donors to hack). Their sim networks are Att/T-Mobile. I haven't heard of anybody flashing to the st vzw towers with a vzw sim equipped phone and using one of their sims. That might be useful if you were in a place that regularly has simbased services and occasionally went to the boonies- you could just switch which service was active assuming you get better speed or home coverage on the sim service. Also useful for international (read: not north American) roaming.
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I realize that this is an old thread but I just switched to Straight Talk from Verizon and thought I would share this. After the switch (I kept my number from Verizon) my phone still shows Verizon Wireless on the lock screen, still says VZWInternet for my APN settings and still shows that I am getting 4GLTE. I am actually on Straight Talk service though as I have my SIM from ST in my phone. I didnt have to use an ATT sim or anything. I registered CDMA on the Straight Talk site before I switched my phone number over. Hope this is useful to anyone thinking about switching over.
Verizon is a straighttalk's carrier so basically your phone is still working under Verizon wireless.
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Just to shed a little light on this, while Straight Talk might operate on VZW towers in some regions, VZW does not authorize straight talk to use phones like the LG G2. One of the powers of CDMA is they can pre-approve select serial numbers for certain carriers, thus VZW knows every single phone ever manufactured for their network and can selectively choose which can be authorized to connect. Thats why you have to go through all the crazy phone cloning to get CDMA phones to look like authorized devices.
Anyway, ST operates on both CDMA and GSM in certain markets. When operating on GSM they utilize AT&T. The LG G2 can only connect to ST if you are using the native unlocked GSM mode. Thats right, all Verizon LG G2 phones are GSM unlocked. So if Straight Talk offers a GSM service through ATT in your area then you can use Straight Talk. If you are trying to connect to Straight Talk's CDMA service (verizon towers) it will not work. Of course you can also use your G2 on any GSM carrier, so T-mobile is also a good player here as they offer some pretty attractive plans, namely their $30/month 5GB/100minute plan. If you have a google voice number you can use Hangouts to place calls that count against data and not minutes, thus you have an Unlimited voice plan with 5GB data for $30/month.
RunNgun42 said:
Just to shed a little light on this, while Straight Talk might operate on VZW towers in some regions, VZW does not authorize straight talk to use phones like the LG G2. One of the powers of CDMA is they can pre-approve select serial numbers for certain carriers, thus VZW knows every single phone ever manufactured for their network and can selectively choose which can be authorized to connect. Thats why you have to go through all the crazy phone cloning to get CDMA phones to look like authorized devices.
Anyway, ST operates on both CDMA and GSM in certain markets. When operating on GSM they utilize AT&T. The LG G2 can only connect to ST if you are using the native unlocked GSM mode. Thats right, all Verizon LG G2 phones are GSM unlocked. So if Straight Talk offers a GSM service through ATT in your area then you can use Straight Talk. If you are trying to connect to Straight Talk's CDMA service (verizon towers) it will not work. Of course you can also use your G2 on any GSM carrier, so T-mobile is also a good player here as they offer some pretty attractive plans, namely their $30/month 5GB/100minute plan. If you have a google voice number you can use Hangouts to place calls that count against data and not minutes, thus you have an Unlimited voice plan with 5GB data for $30/month.
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Er, no. "Phone cloning" was necessary for using devices on older 3G-only MVNOs, but it's no longer the case now that Verizon uses SIM cards. (as do many Verizon MVNOs, like Straight Talk, Pageplus, etc)
As long as the G2 is in good standing (IMEI/ESN not blacklisted due to non-payment/stolen phone/etc), you can use it on ST. All you need to do is request a Verizon SIM from ST CS, pop it in the phone, and go. The $45 for Unlimited/Unlimited/5GB BYOP plan works fine on Verizon. Hell, as long as you have an activated SIM card, you can even use non-Verizon-approved LTE devices on a Verizon plan as long as it has the necessary LTE bands.
Why are you reviving an old, dead topic with outdated information?
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Er, no. "Phone cloning" was necessary for using devices on older 3G-only MVNOs, but it's no longer the case now that Verizon uses SIM cards. (as do many Verizon MVNOs, like Straight Talk, Pageplus, etc)
As long as the G2 is in good standing (IMEI/ESN not blacklisted due to non-payment/stolen phone/etc), you can use it on ST. All you need to do is request a Verizon SIM from ST CS, pop it in the phone, and go. The $45 for Unlimited/Unlimited/5GB BYOP plan works fine on Verizon. Hell, as long as you have an activated SIM card, you can even use non-Verizon-approved LTE devices on a Verizon plan as long as it has the necessary LTE bands.
Why are you reviving an old, dead topic with outdated information?
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Thanks for the info, I was misinformed. Since I just canceled with Verizon and ate the ETF penalty, I still have my Verizon 4G sim. Can I use that with ST? Or do I still need to order an official ST branded sim to use with Verizon?
RunNgun42 said:
Thanks for the info, I was misinformed. Since I just canceled with Verizon and ate the ETF penalty, I still have my Verizon 4G sim. Can I use that with ST? Or do I still need to order an official ST branded sim to use with Verizon?
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ST will give you a SIM when you sign up, but be sure that it's for the Verizon network.
If you're ordering over the phone, just tell the rep that you want it for Verizon.
If you're doing it in store, make sure you're getting the ST Activation Kit for Verizon. Apparently not all Walmarts carry the ST Verizon kit, so you might have to order over the phone/on ST's website.
Once you get it, just pop it in your Verizon G2 and you're good to go.
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ST will give you a SIM when you sign up, but be sure that it's for the Verizon network.
If you're ordering over the phone, just tell the rep that you want it for Verizon.
If you're doing it in store, make sure you're getting the ST Activation Kit for Verizon. Apparently not all Walmarts carry the ST Verizon kit, so you might have to order over the phone/on ST's website.
Once you get it, just pop it in your Verizon G2 and you're good to go.
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What seems so unreal about this is that I'm paying for Verizon service for less than Verizon charges. How the hell does that work for them? Does Verizon just make most of their money roping people into contracts for new phone subsidies? Do they severely deprioritize non VZW customers to the point that ST might be miserable on their network?
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What seems so unreal about this is that I'm paying for Verizon service for less than Verizon charges. How the hell does that work for them? Does Verizon just make most of their money roping people into contracts for new phone subsidies? Do they severely deprioritize non VZW customers to the point that ST might be miserable on their network?
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There are a few of catches to ST's service, which apply to other Verizon MVNOs as well:
1) Verizon postpaid has roaming on 3rd party networks, while prepaid and MVNOs are limited to Verizon's native network only.
2) Verizon MVNOs have lower priority than Verizon-proper. On congested towers, ST and other MVNOs will have the slowest speeds.
3) Similar to the above, all Verizon MVNOs are capped at 5mbps LTE speeds. So not only do ST/MVNOs have the lowest priority, but even on uncongested towers their speeds are limited.
On the plus side, you get Verizon coverage, the largest data bucket at the $45 price point (5GB), and no additional charges/suspended data after you use your allotment (ST throttles to 64kbps after).
If priority and speeds are important, Verizon Prepaid has unlimited talk+text+2GB data (suspended after unless you pay for more) for $45. Higher priority than MVNOs and no speed restrictions.