Curiousbif anybody on tmobile USA updated their firmware to anything other than what tmobile has. I'm running HD13.3 right now and I seem to have few odd ts issues, but other than that good.
If you have flashed it, have you noticed any difference? Since tmobile fw is based on 4.1.2. I'm more concerned with it effecting the radio, since tmobile uses odd bands, don't really want to create any issues with it.
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The thing about radio and rom combos is that they sometimes contain updated modules that take advantage of the radio version you have.
Some users note that certain radio firmware work better with a certain rom while another rom hinders it. Less Battery life or signal.
You can stick to one rom and flash any radio you want and not notice a difference because of where you live while others will.
Radio updates don't control what bands you phone uses they simply make adjustments on how your phone uses them. So your T-Mo HTC One and my AT&T HTC One if they where to have the same ROM/Radio the difference in battery life and overall network performance depends on just that; the network.
If your having issues related to the T-Mobile network it could be any number of things. A bad rom flash, Radio firmware not at your favor, the phone itself, or just the local towers etc.
There are several radios available to install via recovery.. Try a couple and test each out for a day or so and compare the results. If not try to stick with the radio that was released with the ruu the rom was made from.
Tachi91 said:
The thing about radio and rom combos is that they sometimes contain updated modules that take advantage of the radio version you have.
Some users note that certain radio firmware work better with a certain rom while another rom hinders it. Less Battery life or signal.
You can stick to one rom and flash any radio you want and not notice a difference because of where you live while others will.
Radio updates don't control what bands you phone uses they simply make adjustments on how your phone uses them. So your T-Mo HTC One and my AT&T HTC One if they where to have the same ROM/Radio the difference in battery life and overall network performance depends on just that; the network.
If your having issues related to the T-Mobile network it could be any number of things. A bad rom flash, Radio firmware not at your favor, the phone itself, or just the local towers etc.
There are several radios available to install via recovery.. Try a couple and test each out for a day or so and compare the results. If not try to stick with the radio that was released with the ruu the rom was made from.
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Thank you . I will try and find a thread with all of the radios. I am kind of wanting to flash an updated Firmware, but I do not think it is possible unless I go S-OFF and go back to 4.1.2 RUU?
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Thank you . I will try and find a thread with all of the radios. I am kind of wanting to flash an updated Firmware, but I do not think it is possible unless I go S-OFF and go back to 4.1.2 RUU?
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Im kind of in the same boat. I have a T-MO branded HTC One. I wanted to get sOFF and go with the HTC Google Play edition firmware and ROM and flash the T-Mobile radios. BUT the update to my TMO unit at the end of July borked the moonshine and revone (revone?? is that right cant thing of it off the top of my head?) exploit to allow S-off.. So my unit is rooted but NOT with Soff to allow me to do the google play edition firmware..
I can tell you that for me the update in July did help with a little bit better battery life and did improve LTE performance.
I am in Dallas and often can get 35MB down and 25 up..
hoping the rumors are true that we get 4.3 around the end of September..
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I thought I could just follow a standard tutorial for getting Cyanogen on my device, but then I was horror stricken to see this tutorial which Rogers Dream users are supposed to use:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_EBI1_to_CyanogenMod
First off the bat, I am using my dream unlocked on the Bell network, which is only WCDMA 1900mhz. So I don't know if doing this will stop the device from using HSPA over EDGE, because I don't know what's being changed in the radio version. If it changes to EDGE then I'm screwed because Bell being WCDMA doesn't support EDGE.
The tutorial is discussing keeping an EBI1 kernel for that radio but then mentions a EBI0. I have no idea what affects this will have on my device running unlocked at 1900mhz with the non stock carrier.
Also, this is probably stated in a million different threads, but how can I be assured that this guide is infact for my device. I guess I'm trying to ask what must I check to assure this will work on my device?
I would recommend using the guide at that link because of the reasons listed at the beginning and your phone will remain closer to how it came (mainly radio version).
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First off the bat, I am using my dream unlocked on the Bell network, which is only WCDMA 1900mhz. So I don't know if doing this will stop the device from using HSPA over EDGE, because I don't know what's being changed in the radio version. If it changes to EDGE then I'm screwed because Bell being WCDMA doesn't support EDGE.
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If you use the guide on the wiki the radio stays the same so there shouldn't be any problems. haykro's method uses the radio from the T-Mobile G1 and it is really unknown what the differences are but some slow data speeds have been reported. I haven't heard of anyone that can't connect to networks on certain frequencies due to the radio version, this seems to just be hardware based.
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The tutorial is discussing keeping an EBI1 kernel for that radio but then mentions a EBI0. I have no idea what affects this will have on my device running unlocked at 1900mhz with the non stock carrier.
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It only says that you won't have a EBI0 radio.
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Also, this is probably stated in a million different threads, but how can I be assured that this guide is infact for my device. I guess I'm trying to ask what must I check to assure this will work on my device?
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This should work for any Dream purchased through Rogers and has Rogers stamped on the back. You can check the radio version in the settings under about phone. It should be 3.22.20.17. You can also check the SPL version in fastboot (power on while holding camera). If you have 1.33.0009 you have the original SPL, if you have 1.33.0010 you have the new "perfect" one and you will have 1.33.0005 after rooted.
And a couple of questions for you. How did you get your phone unlocked? How is the GSM with Bell and did you get a better price than Rogers?
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I would recommend using the guide at that link because of the reasons listed at the beginning and your phone will remain closer to how it came (mainly radio version).
If you use the guide on the wiki the radio stays the same so there shouldn't be any problems. haykro's method uses the radio from the T-Mobile G1 and it is really unknown what the differences are but some slow data speeds have been reported. I haven't heard of anyone that can't connect to networks on certain frequencies due to the radio version, this seems to just be hardware based.
It only says that you won't have a EBI0 radio.
This should work for any Dream purchased through Rogers and has Rogers stamped on the back. You can check the radio version in the settings under about phone. It should be 3.22.20.17. You can also check the SPL version in fastboot (power on while holding camera). If you have 1.33.0009 you have the original SPL, if you have 1.33.0010 you have the new "perfect" one and you will have 1.33.0005 after rooted.
And a couple of questions for you. How did you get your phone unlocked? How is the GSM with Bell and did you get a better price than Rogers?
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If I have 1.33.0009 does that mean I can use a method that doesn't risk bricking? It says when I flash the SPL it can brick the device
No, im sorry there is always a possibility of bricking a device when flashing firmware. If you follow the directions to the dot and verify the md5 sum of downloads the risk of bricking should be low. If you want to root it is a risk you are going to have to take just like flashing the firmware of any device (BIOS, etc.)
Beav_35:
I also am using an unlocked rogers dream on Bell.
Notes:
I called Bell with the IMEI before I bought it and asked them if it would work. They said yes.
I unlocked by purchasing a code from an ebay seller. $6. Two hours to get it. Worked for me, twice.
The roaming setting must be enabled. The status symbol has an R in it even tho I am not really roaming. Not a big problem for me.
There is an H in the data symbol. It works OK. The browsing speed is quick (this is a relative term) when tethering but molasses when using the browser in android. Not really sure what this means but it is better than the Treo650 I was using.
I just use Bell because I have contract and it is an acceptable deal. If I didn't have any contract I might look at Fido. My son uses an unlocked Rogers Iphone on Fido and can get voice,sms, and data for $50/mo plus tax - no system access fee.
I am paying $60 plus tax- no system access fee, but I get voice mail and caller ID and some more goodies like 6pm evenings.
Ok, So I have the new Fresh 2.0b ROM, right? But I have Cellular South as my service provider. Can I still flash the Radio update? I don't want to mess up my phone by bricking it because of my carrier. Yes, it is CDMA. Anyways, can I?
Someone, please correct me if Im wrong, but I do not believe that this radio will work correctly with a different carrier. I definitely wouldnt try it without being able to flash back to your original.
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Someone, please correct me if Im wrong, but I do not believe that this radio will work correctly with a different carrier. I definitely wouldnt try it without being able to flash back to your original.
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That's what I thought as well. That should really be specified in the thread of the radio update. It never specifies carrier. it just specifies "CDMA"
The radio update should work fine for Cell South.
The "big" carriers have enough buying power to get products in volume from the manufacturer. Smaller carriers, like Cell South, Alaska DigiTel, ACS, Bluegrass, etc. get their stock from a distributor who, with all those smaller companies buying, have enough customers to buy products in volume just like the "big" carriers. That's why there's no significant difference in the Hero between the smaller carriers.
KyleIsTheBeast said:
I don't want to mess up my phone by bricking it because of my carrier.
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The bricking usually happens with people flashing GSM on a CDMA phone or the other way around.
navalynt said:
The radio update should work fine for Cell South.
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Can someone please confirm? I don't want to **** up my precious hero! xD LOL
First question: Why would you want to update the radio?
Radio update cannot be undone. This may cause the sprint update a problem
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First question: Why would you want to update the radio?
Radio update cannot be undone. This may cause the sprint update a problem
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Because it is said to have a better battery life
I am aware that it can not be undone. What do you mean? How is this so? I do not have Sprint
i dont see why one of the devs could pull the old radio image out and just flash it back..but i dont think anyone would want to...and it could be the radio update that is coming for sprint since alot of these new roms are based of leaks from htc and whatnot a couple weeks before the official update
I don't see why you'd want to Sprint update now that we have working 2.1 Anyways, RUU restores the stock radio, and it is probably inside the RUU.
yea i figured it wasnt permanant..but i like it it has improved my signal more than my battery life IMO but i wouldnt take it back cause now i get real strong evdo at work when i never got it at all which does inturn help battery life...also the devs on here will make the official sprint update look like a small town guinnea.
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yea i figured it wasnt permanant..but i like it it has improved my signal more than my battery life IMO but i wouldnt take it back cause now i get real strong evdo at work when i never got it at all which does inturn help battery life...also the devs on here will make the official sprint update look like a small town guinnea.
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Are you running Fresh 2.0b2 ? My radio update seems to have killed my reception. Its not as good as it was originally.
yea i am and like i said i didnt at all see an improvvement in my bars..but my stats (i forget how its measured) but the numbers were way lower than they are normally and i noticed that while i have just 2 evdo bars it never leaves that as before it was constantly going in and out of evdo also i would think your phone also needs to get used to it seems like android phone always have to break something in weather it be a rom or we just my opinion
I have been working on development for a proof of concept application that requires AT&T 3G on the Nexus One. As I finish, I needed to deliver the app on phones to my customer--now I can only get T-Mobile version of the N1!
Why did Google/HTC pull the AT&T version from distribution?
I have a bad feeling by posting this, someone will provide "helpful" comments that I don't need to run an app on a particular carrier, or I can run a TM phone on AT&T--both technically true, but trust me, I have a special case that requires AT&T 3G enabled phones.
I don't think it will work, but I am going to try and reflash a TM N1 with the AT&T radio image and see if that works. I suspect not, since I read somewhere around here that the phones have different power amps. I will let you know...
wrong forum
flashing the at&t radio image to t-mobile hardware will not work don't waster your time
google has not given a reason for no AT&T dev phone only have said "at this time there are no plans to offer the version that is capable of 3G speeds on AT&T and Rogers networks."
Yeah, your best bet is to look on ebay/craigslist or even at the marketplace here on the XDA forums for one. I'm glad I got one before they are gone, but I'm sure you can still find one by looking.
Looks like there is one on sale for $500 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752127
Flashing the radio won't do anything because both phones already use the same radio file. There's no such thing as an ATT radio for the nexus, they all use the same single radio file.
Ebay is your best bet, or Craig list.
Radio image doesn't do anything.
The phones' hardware is different. You just have to get the AT&T version from ebay/craigslist.
Also, check out this guy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753476
Does your application *absolutely* have to run on an N1?
Cause it's worth pointing out... Telus (Canada) has now released the substantially similar HTC Desire. It's SIM-unlockable, cheaper than an N1, runs the right frequencies for AT&T 3G... and the ROM it comes with is rootable. If your application doesn't play well with Sense UI you can load a ROM such as OpenDesire which is basically stock Froyo.
So if you're in a real bind and you can't get your hands on enough Nexus Ones (Nexii?), this one might be worth consideration.
Hey guys,
Just wondering for those of you who are also using Google Edition on 4.3 (whether purchased a GE or "converted" to GE or just applied the latest radio from GE [4A.18.3263.15_10.38h.1157.04L]) and are on AT&T if you've noticed a decrease in network service on this new radio.
I was using the latest AT&T radio (the one that enabled the additional bands) for a couple days after it came out before 4.3 - Friday night after 4.3 came out I used the conversion process to GE so I could flash the 4.3 OTA, and along with it the new firmware and radio and since then I've noticed my service to be lacking. At first I thought it was just the visual indicators (even my WiFi never had full bars and that was in a 600 sq ft studio apartment!) but today now that I'm back to work in an LTE area (I live in Los Angeles), I'm only getting HSPA (indicator says H, not LTE now).
I know I can easily flash that other radio again, and I probably will. But, just curious on other's experience with the GE radio.
I would stick with the att specific radio that enables lte band 2 and 5 as it has made a huge difference for me there were areas I only got 1 or 2 bars in city
Not anymore 3-4 bars always till I go outside of city
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DanRyb said:
Hey guys,
Just wondering for those of you who are also using Google Edition on 4.3 (whether purchased a GE or "converted" to GE or just applied the latest radio from GE [4A.18.3263.15_10.38h.1157.04L]) and are on AT&T if you've noticed a decrease in network service on this new radio.
I was using the latest AT&T radio (the one that enabled the additional bands) for a couple days after it came out before 4.3 - Friday night after 4.3 came out I used the conversion process to GE so I could flash the 4.3 OTA, and along with it the new firmware and radio and since then I've noticed my service to be lacking. At first I thought it was just the visual indicators (even my WiFi never had full bars and that was in a 600 sq ft studio apartment!) but today now that I'm back to work in an LTE area (I live in Los Angeles), I'm only getting HSPA (indicator says H, not LTE now).
I know I can easily flash that other radio again, and I probably will. But, just curious on other's experience with the GE radio.
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I am not running the GE rom, but on Sense rom and I ran both. I found the initial one that unlocked the bands (4A.17.3250.20) was a great improvement for my network speed on LTE. I only ran a few tests on the newer GE radio but I do think it is a little slower, and just barely. However I have stuck with the latest radio becasue I think the battery is better when using LTE even if the speed isn't quite as good. Not a very large difference mind you, I'm talking like an average of 1-2 Mbps slower on the download side only. So could be nothing, since I didn't do lots of tests on both.
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I would stick with the att specific radio that enables lte band 2 and 5 as it has made a huge difference for me there were areas I only got 1 or 2 bars in city
Not anymore 3-4 bars always till I go outside of city
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Yeah, I think I will go back and see how it goes. I was wondering if GE radio also enabled those LTE bands for AT&T but I'm assuming they did not? Is there any way to test for sure I wonder aside from just "visual cues"?
I applied the 4.3 GE RUU on my 64GB DE HTC One and am getting ~20Mbps compared to 30+Mbps with the 4.1.2 stock rom.
Has anyone tried applying the ATT radio on a 4.3 GE rom?
Thanks!
mocsharp said:
I applied the 4.3 GE RUU on my 64GB DE HTC One and am getting ~20Mbps compared to 30+Mbps with the 4.1.2 stock rom.
Has anyone tried applying the ATT radio on a 4.3 GE rom?
Thanks!
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I did the full convention when the 4.3 ota dropped. Wasn't a big fan of GE so I converted back to sense, but left the firmware and radio in place simply because I was lazy. I flashes the newest at&t radio a few days ago. I now LTE at my house consistently where as I didn't get LTE before. I haven't done any speed tests since its not a big deal to me since I use wifi about 90% of the time.
AT&T HTC One
Baadnewz's InsertCoin 3.0-14
Flar2's Bulletproof 4.3
I applied the radio from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2388809&highlight=fastboot and now I'm getting much better speed with AT&T. :good:
I'm currently downloading the following GPE ROM and I notice it says that you can flash the radio but it is not required. Just wondering what this means exactly? Is it the drivers for the radio device in the headset that gives you your signal? Is it best practice to flash the radio or do most people leave it? What are the pros and cons etc? Is it dangerous to do?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341395
Thanks
Radios control things like Cellular, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS.
Each version has its unique radios.
The software that controls them would tell the device to get HSPDA+ on band x or LTE on band Y.. stuff like that.
For example. ME i have T-Mobile. I have a T-Mobile branded HTC One. For a while i ran my One fully stock GPe with the TMO radios. Why? Because when TMO sent out an update a while back (prior to 4.3) they updated their radios and i saw noticeable improvement on LTE for TMO..
SO naturally when i converted mine to GPe i wanted to keep my TMO radios. The GPe might not have the tweaks to its radios that TMO sent out and at the time the version on my GPe was older. So i put the newer TMO radio on it and i felt like it was working great.
Someone else chime in with pros and cons.