Developer edition or regular moto x ? - Moto X Q&A

I'm getting the moto x and I'm on Verizon currently, also thinking about switching to a different company now my question getting the developer editing will allow me to go to any company ? And also would it be better to get the developer phone since its unlock might men more developers will be able to offer ROMs for it ?
Thank you for the help guys.
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Blanko6 said:
I'm getting the moto x and I'm on Verizon currently, also thinking about switching to a different company now my question getting the developer editing will allow me to go to any company ? And also would it be better to get the developer phone since its unlock might men more developers will be able to offer ROMs for it ?
Thank you for the help guys.
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if you want custom roms, you will need to get the dev edition.

I guess my question would be if the locked bootloader will find a way to get unlocked. I'm springing for a standard edition phone and praying for a bootloader unlock.

grimez said:
I guess my question would be if the locked bootloader will find a way to get unlocked. I'm springing for a standard edition phone and praying for a bootloader unlock.
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we all want it....we just need someone with enough brain power to find an exploit...
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dwd3885 said:
if you want custom roms, you will need to get the dev edition.
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Or the Rogers Moto X :silly:

Sick and tired of flashing, reflashing and other crap.
Anyone want to bet on the timeliness of updates for the bootloader-locked versions?

herzzreh said:
Sick and tired of flashing, reflashing and other crap.
Anyone want to bet on the timeliness of updates for the bootloader-locked versions?
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I kinda agree with you. With the build Moto has given on the X I would be happy with just root.

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Unlocked bootloader?

I've been reading a bit about the pwnmymoto, but just curious if anyone is close to unlocking the bootloader? And what are the odds if custom ROMs in the future, kind of hoping to get 4.4 on here when it releases cause I doubt Verizon will be fast about it lol
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kregstrong said:
I've been reading a bit about the pwnmymoto, but just curious if anyone is close to unlocking the bootloader? And what are the odds if custom ROMs in the future, kind of hoping to get 4.4 on here when it releases cause I doubt Verizon will be fast about it lol
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Hashcode is close to releasing a Safestrap (or so they say). That's a hack for getting custom recovery through some sort of bootloader bypass. It will allow you to flash custom roms.
EDIT - just saw your name. Haha. I am Maison Pulaski. Nice to see you bro
I would not be too optimistic about them getting an unlock. Motorola has historically been very good at protecting that. The only generation that they failed was the last gen Qualcomm s4 based phones
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Unlock-able bootloader on Verzion now?!

I noticed that Motorola has added VZW to the list of MOTO X carriers on their page "What devices are supported by the Bootloader Unlock program?"
[google: motorola unlock supported devices]
Has anyone else seen this? I don't see any news releases anywhere for it, and it definitely wasn't there previously.
From the chart, it doesn't appear to be specific to the Dev edition. Does this mean I/we could unlock the non-dev 'retail' version of the phone? Has anyone actually tried or used this method to unlock with or without success?
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Impossible lol
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...sion/L3RpbWUvMTM4MDY3Njk1NS9zaWQva2dPblNLQmw= for those interested
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Zach.discgolf said:
Impossible lol
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...sion/L3RpbWUvMTM4MDY3Njk1NS9zaWQva2dPblNLQmw= for those interested
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Im pretty sure that the OP is referring to that image. Notice it says: US / Sprint, USC, TMO, VZW are all unlockable.
Im also pretty sure that it is referring to the DE.
Yeah that's for the Dev edition. You can try it on the regular one if you please (won't hurt anything) but when you enter the magic code acquired from the device you will be told its not valid for unlock.
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Anyone tried it?
infinit22 said:
Anyone tried it?
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Not a Verizon owner but Rogers , I did unlock my boot loader, you got nothing to lose. you have to get a code from your phone in fastboot which you insert into Motorola's unlocking request page at which point either you get a code or it will say your boot loader is not unlockable
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Was going to try it but can't even log into my Moto account lol.. Either way HIGHLY doubt it would work. Must be talking about the Dev edition.
Doesn't work. Worth a shot though
infinit22 said:
Doesn't work. Worth a shot though
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Well look at it this way, you still have your warranty
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infinit22 said:
Doesn't work. Worth a shot though
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yep. just tried too... no luck.
flashallthetime said:
Not a Verizon owner but Rogers , I did unlock my boot loader, you got nothing to lose...
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Unless, of course, you consider losing your warranty something to lose.

So Should I Get the Moto X?

I'm contemplating getting a Moto X on Verizon. I want root. Don't care about ROMs or anything just want to be able to do a couple things mainly. I've read some threads and what not and am a little confused about how easy it is to root the thing with the latest update. Is it possible or did they patch it up? I'd be getting the phone from Verizon so I'm guessing it'd be up to date. Thanks in advance.
If its been updated your S.O.L! If it hasn't its super easy.
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lowvolt1 said:
If its been updated your S.O.L! If it hasn't its super easy.
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****. That's what I was afraid of.
It a great device either way
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Not sure if it is but there is always the Dev edition
thekendog said:
I'm contemplating getting a Moto X on Verizon. I want root. Don't care about ROMs or anything just want to be able to do a couple things mainly. I've read some threads and what not and am a little confused about how easy it is to root the thing with the latest update. Is it possible or did they patch it up? I'd be getting the phone from Verizon so I'm guessing it'd be up to date. Thanks in advance.
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Even without root this phone is amazing! This is coming from someone who used to flash a new rom daily. Now like you, I still prefer root for certain apps but this phone is so good it would be just as enjoyable without root. You might get lucky and get one that's been in the cabinet for a couple of weeks then you could root it. If not I'd still get it. I would bet we will have a way to root the newer software before long anyway.
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There is an alternative root method, it is not going to get released before 4.4 though... If it get released now, then the exploit will undoubtedly get patch with 4.4... So the creator is waiting for the big update to release, then release his root method.
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theraffman said:
There is an alternative root method, it is not going to get released before 4.4 though... If it get released now, then the exploit will undoubtedly get patch with 4.4... So the creator is waiting for the big update to release, then release his root method.
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Jcase is working on pwnmymoto2, which he stated on twitter may be released today. This is to root the update.
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droe411 said:
Jcase is working on pwnmymoto2, which he stated on twitter may be released today. This is to root the update.
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A while back he said he had another way to root but would hold it back until 4.3+ update. That's cool he's pushing it out sooner... Hopefully the exploit doesn't get patched in the next update though, I understand the reason for waiting on these things, it's like playing chess.
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droe411 said:
Jcase is working on pwnmymoto2, which he stated on twitter may be released today. This is to root the update.
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Is the latest update the one with the camera improvements?
4.4 is a completely different ballgame when it comes to root and security exploits. His method was patched, that's why he's releasing it. Won't matter when 4.4 comes...
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thekendog said:
Is the latest update the one with the camera improvements?
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Yes.
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1ManWolfePack said:
4.4 is a completely different ballgame when it comes to root and security exploits. His method was patched, that's why he's releasing it. Won't matter when 4.4 comes...
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I was just going off of what jcase had previously said... But he was probably thinking the next big update was 4.3 which was still jb, he probably decide to release since we're now going straight to kk.
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SymbioticGenius said:
Not sure if it is but there is always the Dev edition
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I would be very careful of the Dev edition. With carriers you get good support and exchanges. With Moto, the support is horrible and no chance for an exchange.
thekendog said:
I'm contemplating getting a Moto X on Verizon. I want root. Don't care about ROMs or anything just want to be able to do a couple things mainly. I've read some threads and what not and am a little confused about how easy it is to root the thing with the latest update. Is it possible or did they patch it up? I'd be getting the phone from Verizon so I'm guessing it'd be up to date. Thanks in advance.
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there is an exploit for the comera ota update now. It is not that complicated if you toy with your phone and know how to use adb and run some simple commands. There is a video for it and another thread that gives you instructions for windows for those that really don't know how to run things in cmd prompt.

[Q] Confused about unlocking of bootloader

I recently ordered a GSM unlocked moto x from motomaker and I was wondering if the gem unlocked version's boot loader is unlockable. I plan to get a sim card from T-Mobile soon, if that info is useful at all. Thanks in advance guys!
tomh12player said:
I recently ordered a GSM unlocked moto x from motomaker and I was wondering if the gem unlocked version's boot loader is unlockable. I plan to get a sim card from T-Mobile soon, if that info is useful at all. Thanks in advance guys!
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Yes, it is unlockable: I just did mine this evening! However, it will void the warranty..but hey, I sometimes live dangerously.
markwebb said:
Yes, it is unlockable: I just did mine this evening! However, it will void the warranty..but hey, I sometimes live dangerously.
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How did you unlock it? And was it on android 4.4?
More than likely it still comes with 4.2. You unlock it by visiting Motorola Unlock Bootloader page. It lists all the steps needed. Simple process, should take no more than 10 minutes.
Btw, the T Mobile Moto maker version comes with a T Mobile SIM inside already. Just has to be activated.
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RenSoAbrupt said:
More than likely it still comes with 4.2. You unlock it by visiting Motorola Unlock Bootloader page. It lists all the steps needed. Simple process, should take no more than 10 minutes.
Btw, the T Mobile Moto maker version comes with a T Mobile SIM inside already. Just has to be activated.
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I received mine yesterday and it came with 4.4.2
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More than likely it still comes with 4.2. You unlock it by visiting Motorola Unlock Bootloader page. It lists all the steps needed. Simple process, should take no more than 10 minutes.
Btw, the T Mobile Moto maker version comes with a T Mobile SIM inside already. Just has to be activated.
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Correct on both!
I unlocked first before taking the OTA to 4.4.
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Dream Weaver said:
I received mine yesterday and it came with 4.4.2
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Interesting that units are shipping with different versions.
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Dream Weaver said:
I received mine yesterday and it came with 4.4.2
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Picture of it with 4.4.2.
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markwebb said:
Correct on both!
I unlocked first before taking the OTA to 4.4.
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Interesting that units are shipping with different versions.
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Forgive me for being such a newbie, but if you unlocked it while it was 4.2.2, and updated it to 4.4, it remains unlocked? And what do you plan to do now that you've unlocked it?
It remains unlocked regardless of which version. Now that you are unlocked. You may install TWRP and superSU. To gain root privileges and get xposed framework with gravity box. Which remains the best combo so far for most who have rooted and are on 4.4.
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It remains locked regardless of which version. Now that you are unlocked. You may install TWRP and superSU. To gain root privileges and get xposed framework with gravity box. Which remains the best combo so far for most who have rooted and are on 4.4.
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Do you mean unlocked regardless of which version?
Yes, seems my autocorrect got the best of me.
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I plan on buying a Verizon moto x NON developer edition. Is the boot loader still unlockable, from xda resources?
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Feldroid said:
I plan on buying a Verizon moto x NON developer edition. Is the boot loader still unlockable, from xda resources?
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The non-developer Moto X on VZW has never been unlockable.
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RenSoAbrupt said:
Picture of it with 4.4.2.
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I reinstalled mine so no can do, it might not have been 4.4.2 exactly but I know it was at least 4.4 for sure.
More than likely 4.4, we are all awaiting the arrival of 4.4.2 and a better camera though.
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imnuts said:
The non-developer Moto X on VZW has never been unlockable.
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Is that expected to change any time soon? I know in the past the dev community has had these things hacked apart like 24 hours after launch. We're now months into the launch of the Moto X and we only recently even got root. So I guess my question is twofold:
1. Is there a reason that the Moto X has proven so darned hard to unlock?
2. What are the limitations of having a locked (but rooted) device as far as custom ROMs, kernels, bootloaders, recoveries, etc.? Coming from a Galaxy Nexus that I was able to fully unlock and root on day one, I have no idea what's accessible via rooting vs. via unlocking. It all just kind of felt the same to me.
N00b questions I know, but I'd really like to know what I can and can't do with this VZW Moto X of mine.
gerodive said:
Is that expected to change any time soon? I know in the past the dev community has had these things hacked apart like 24 hours after launch. We're now months into the launch of the Moto X and we only recently even got root. So I guess my question is twofold:
1. Is there a reason that the Moto X has proven so darned hard to unlock?
2. What are the limitations of having a locked (but rooted) device as far as custom ROMs, kernels, bootloaders, recoveries, etc.? Coming from a Galaxy Nexus that I was able to fully unlock and root on day one, I have no idea what's accessible via rooting vs. via unlocking. It all just kind of felt the same to me.
N00b questions I know, but I'd really like to know what I can and can't do with this VZW Moto X of mine.
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All I can say is the Bionic and Galaxy S4 both on VZW have not been unlocked and never will be.
Either buy the overpriced Dev edition or the unlockable gsm version... when it is discounted again.
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[Q] Need and official T-Mobile Rom for AT&T Moto X

I have a friend with an AT&T Moto X. He is selling it and offered me a good deal on it. It is already unlocked (I know I may need to unlock it again if I change roms and such but I assume his code may carry over and I don't mind buying an unlock code if needed). I am very interested in the phone but would prefer to have the official stock T-Mobile rom on the phone. I can install a custom bootloader if necessary, but I cannot find an official T-Mobile rom for the phone. Does anyone know where I could find the official stock T-Mobile rom or know how I can switch it to the T-Mobile rom from the AT&T rom? Thanks
If it's an AT&T Moto x, then you can't bootloader unlock it. If it is SIM unlocked once, then it'll stay that way forever. If it has a locked bootloader, then you can't really install a rom on it.
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linuxgator said:
If it's an AT&T Moto x, then you can't bootloader unlock it. If it is SIM unlocked once, then it'll stay that way forever. If it has a locked bootloader, then you can't really install a rom on it.
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I thought I should stay unlocked. I had read a few posts from people suggesting it might have to be redone though, so I wasn't sure. So It is stuck with the AT&T rom for good then I presume? The only reason I would have a desire to change the rom would be to take advantage of a perticular T-Mobile app, which I can get on the phone anyways. Would there be any notable problems that anyone knows of with using an unlocked AT&T Moto X on T-mobile?
I am using one right now and it works fine. The only possible issue is if you're in an area that hasn't had a network refarm. In those areas, you can only get 2g instead of 3g. It has the same LTE coverage either way.
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linuxgator said:
If it's an AT&T Moto x, then you can't bootloader unlock it. If it is SIM unlocked once, then it'll stay that way forever. If it has a locked bootloader, then you can't really install a rom on it.
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You can buy the boot loader unlock code from that Chinese guy.
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linuxgator said:
If it's an AT&T Moto x, then you can't bootloader unlock it. If it is SIM unlocked once, then it'll stay that way forever. If it has a locked bootloader, then you can't really install a rom on it.
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My AT&T Moto X is bootloader unlocked. Cost me $40 to get the code. There's quite a few threads being posted about it. I'm using it on T-Mobile right now. Once it is carrier unlocked, it stays that way. Same with the bootloader. I get LTE on T-Mobile.
It's well worth the $40 to unlock the bootloader. You can root, install roms, and pretty much do whatever you want to your phone.
Side note: I don't think there is an official T-Mobile rom since the T-Mobile version is the unlocked GSM version.
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My AT&T Moto X is bootloader unlocked. Cost me $40 to get the code. There's quite a few threads being posted about it. I'm using it on T-Mobile right now. Once it is carrier unlocked, it stays that way. Same with the bootloader. I get LTE on T-Mobile.
It's well worth the $40 to unlock the bootloader. You can root, install roms, and pretty much do whatever you want to your phone.
Side note: I don't think there is an official T-Mobile rom since the T-Mobile version is the unlocked GSM version.
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This is the factory Dev images.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
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This is the factory Dev images.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
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Okay? I was answering the OP's inquiry about a stock T-Mobile rom, and like I said, there isn't a T-Mobile rom since it's a gsm unlocked version. I don't know why you quoted me with dev images?
I read where people have flashed this to att phones and gotten it to work. Sorry didn't mean to quote you
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southern87 said:
I read where people have flashed this to att phones and gotten it to work. Sorry didn't mean to quote you
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Oh cool. I didn't mean to come off as a jerk. If I did, I apologize. Was confused why you quoted me with that lol.
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If it is not on 4.4.2 already, you can root it and use a SafeStrap ROM. If it's on 4.4.2 already, you're out of luck. I don't think AT&T has sent out the update already, so it probably doesn't have 4.4.2.

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