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I'm getting the moto x and I'm on Verizon currently, also thinking about switching to a different company now my question getting the developer editing will allow me to go to any company ? And also would it be better to get the developer phone since its unlock might men more developers will be able to offer ROMs for it ?
Thank you for the help guys.
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Blanko6 said:
I'm getting the moto x and I'm on Verizon currently, also thinking about switching to a different company now my question getting the developer editing will allow me to go to any company ? And also would it be better to get the developer phone since its unlock might men more developers will be able to offer ROMs for it ?
Thank you for the help guys.
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if you want custom roms, you will need to get the dev edition.
I guess my question would be if the locked bootloader will find a way to get unlocked. I'm springing for a standard edition phone and praying for a bootloader unlock.
grimez said:
I guess my question would be if the locked bootloader will find a way to get unlocked. I'm springing for a standard edition phone and praying for a bootloader unlock.
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we all want it....we just need someone with enough brain power to find an exploit...
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dwd3885 said:
if you want custom roms, you will need to get the dev edition.
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Or the Rogers Moto X :silly:
Sick and tired of flashing, reflashing and other crap.
Anyone want to bet on the timeliness of updates for the bootloader-locked versions?
herzzreh said:
Sick and tired of flashing, reflashing and other crap.
Anyone want to bet on the timeliness of updates for the bootloader-locked versions?
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I kinda agree with you. With the build Moto has given on the X I would be happy with just root.
So to help us determine future mod capabilities such as custom recovery's and rom's any word if the at&t note 3 has an unlocked bootloader?... Only those with it in hand would be able to answer this question with the proper tools.
I don't have one in my hand but I can promise you the bootloader is locked.
Is there a way to unlock the bootloader?
As of right now, no one knows.
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Why now I wonder? All they achieve by locking the bootloader is potentially losing my business to another carrier...
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Sukiaki96 said:
Is there a way to unlock the bootloader?
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Look at the S4, still no bootloader unlock. If you want a GN3 unlocked bootloader your best option is to buy it unlocked.
CrashTestDroid said:
Look at the S4, still no bootloader unlock. If you want a GN3 unlocked bootloader your best option is to buy it unlocked.
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Just for my clarification, how are people installing a custom recovery and roms on the AT&T S4 if bootloader is locked? Couldn't we do the same on the AT&T N3? Thanks
The bootloader is unlocked on all Canadian versions...... Sorry to the Americans out there.. Lol. I love Canada
vince2398 said:
Just for my clarification, how are people installing a custom recovery and roms on the AT&T S4 if bootloader is locked? Couldn't we do the same on the AT&T N3? Thanks
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they are using safestrap recovery ..
Eventually, someone will figure out an exploit. The S4 uses and exploit called Loki. Since the Note 3 was just release it will be a while before anyone figure out an exploit.
I have one in hand but I dont know what tools to use to see if the bootloader is locked. Tell how to check and I will as long as it doesnt brick my device.
mimart7 said:
Eventually, someone will figure out an exploit. The S4 uses and exploit called Loki. Since the Note 3 was just release it will be a while before anyone figure out an exploit.
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Dont think loki works with the newer firmware from att.
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aalupatti said:
Dont think loki works with the newer firmware from att.
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It worked for latest firmware of LG G2 from ATT
mehdi_s82 said:
It worked for latest firmware of LG G2 from ATT
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I was referring to S4
Safestrqap is the newest exploit for the s4, but Someone will figure out an exploit for the locked bootlaoder for this Note 3. I am due for an upgrade, I just trying to decide on the Note 3 or S4.
What do you have now? I have htc One and I'm getting Note 3 for a change. I'm going to sell my Nexus 7 tablet too since I'm hoping with Note it won't be needed.
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mimart7 said:
Safestrqap is the newest exploit for the s4, but Someone will figure out an exploit for the locked bootlaoder for this Note 3. I am due for an upgrade, I just trying to decide on the Note 3 or S4.
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I suggest Note 3 because of the bigger battery, snapdragon 800 and the bigger screen.
With this locked bootloader you can still root the phone right? I don't really care about anything else except for 1. Root, and 2. Adaway. These are the only 2 things I need on my phone. Thanks
JoJo2211 said:
With this locked bootloader you can still root the phone right? I don't really care about anything else except for 1. Root, and 2. Adaway. These are the only 2 things I need on my phone. Thanks
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As of now, there is no root method for the AT&T variant that I know of!
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Tomorrow ill get the Canadian Note 3, is there a way to check for a locked bootloader?
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I'm contemplating getting a Moto X on Verizon. I want root. Don't care about ROMs or anything just want to be able to do a couple things mainly. I've read some threads and what not and am a little confused about how easy it is to root the thing with the latest update. Is it possible or did they patch it up? I'd be getting the phone from Verizon so I'm guessing it'd be up to date. Thanks in advance.
If its been updated your S.O.L! If it hasn't its super easy.
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lowvolt1 said:
If its been updated your S.O.L! If it hasn't its super easy.
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****. That's what I was afraid of.
It a great device either way
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Not sure if it is but there is always the Dev edition
thekendog said:
I'm contemplating getting a Moto X on Verizon. I want root. Don't care about ROMs or anything just want to be able to do a couple things mainly. I've read some threads and what not and am a little confused about how easy it is to root the thing with the latest update. Is it possible or did they patch it up? I'd be getting the phone from Verizon so I'm guessing it'd be up to date. Thanks in advance.
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Even without root this phone is amazing! This is coming from someone who used to flash a new rom daily. Now like you, I still prefer root for certain apps but this phone is so good it would be just as enjoyable without root. You might get lucky and get one that's been in the cabinet for a couple of weeks then you could root it. If not I'd still get it. I would bet we will have a way to root the newer software before long anyway.
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There is an alternative root method, it is not going to get released before 4.4 though... If it get released now, then the exploit will undoubtedly get patch with 4.4... So the creator is waiting for the big update to release, then release his root method.
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theraffman said:
There is an alternative root method, it is not going to get released before 4.4 though... If it get released now, then the exploit will undoubtedly get patch with 4.4... So the creator is waiting for the big update to release, then release his root method.
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Jcase is working on pwnmymoto2, which he stated on twitter may be released today. This is to root the update.
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droe411 said:
Jcase is working on pwnmymoto2, which he stated on twitter may be released today. This is to root the update.
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A while back he said he had another way to root but would hold it back until 4.3+ update. That's cool he's pushing it out sooner... Hopefully the exploit doesn't get patched in the next update though, I understand the reason for waiting on these things, it's like playing chess.
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droe411 said:
Jcase is working on pwnmymoto2, which he stated on twitter may be released today. This is to root the update.
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Is the latest update the one with the camera improvements?
4.4 is a completely different ballgame when it comes to root and security exploits. His method was patched, that's why he's releasing it. Won't matter when 4.4 comes...
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thekendog said:
Is the latest update the one with the camera improvements?
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Yes.
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1ManWolfePack said:
4.4 is a completely different ballgame when it comes to root and security exploits. His method was patched, that's why he's releasing it. Won't matter when 4.4 comes...
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I was just going off of what jcase had previously said... But he was probably thinking the next big update was 4.3 which was still jb, he probably decide to release since we're now going straight to kk.
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SymbioticGenius said:
Not sure if it is but there is always the Dev edition
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I would be very careful of the Dev edition. With carriers you get good support and exchanges. With Moto, the support is horrible and no chance for an exchange.
thekendog said:
I'm contemplating getting a Moto X on Verizon. I want root. Don't care about ROMs or anything just want to be able to do a couple things mainly. I've read some threads and what not and am a little confused about how easy it is to root the thing with the latest update. Is it possible or did they patch it up? I'd be getting the phone from Verizon so I'm guessing it'd be up to date. Thanks in advance.
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there is an exploit for the comera ota update now. It is not that complicated if you toy with your phone and know how to use adb and run some simple commands. There is a video for it and another thread that gives you instructions for windows for those that really don't know how to run things in cmd prompt.
I recently ordered a GSM unlocked moto x from motomaker and I was wondering if the gem unlocked version's boot loader is unlockable. I plan to get a sim card from T-Mobile soon, if that info is useful at all. Thanks in advance guys!
tomh12player said:
I recently ordered a GSM unlocked moto x from motomaker and I was wondering if the gem unlocked version's boot loader is unlockable. I plan to get a sim card from T-Mobile soon, if that info is useful at all. Thanks in advance guys!
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Yes, it is unlockable: I just did mine this evening! However, it will void the warranty..but hey, I sometimes live dangerously.
markwebb said:
Yes, it is unlockable: I just did mine this evening! However, it will void the warranty..but hey, I sometimes live dangerously.
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How did you unlock it? And was it on android 4.4?
More than likely it still comes with 4.2. You unlock it by visiting Motorola Unlock Bootloader page. It lists all the steps needed. Simple process, should take no more than 10 minutes.
Btw, the T Mobile Moto maker version comes with a T Mobile SIM inside already. Just has to be activated.
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RenSoAbrupt said:
More than likely it still comes with 4.2. You unlock it by visiting Motorola Unlock Bootloader page. It lists all the steps needed. Simple process, should take no more than 10 minutes.
Btw, the T Mobile Moto maker version comes with a T Mobile SIM inside already. Just has to be activated.
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I received mine yesterday and it came with 4.4.2
RenSoAbrupt said:
More than likely it still comes with 4.2. You unlock it by visiting Motorola Unlock Bootloader page. It lists all the steps needed. Simple process, should take no more than 10 minutes.
Btw, the T Mobile Moto maker version comes with a T Mobile SIM inside already. Just has to be activated.
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Correct on both!
I unlocked first before taking the OTA to 4.4.
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Dream Weaver said:
I received mine yesterday and it came with 4.4.2
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Interesting that units are shipping with different versions.
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Dream Weaver said:
I received mine yesterday and it came with 4.4.2
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Picture of it with 4.4.2.
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markwebb said:
Correct on both!
I unlocked first before taking the OTA to 4.4.
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Interesting that units are shipping with different versions.
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Forgive me for being such a newbie, but if you unlocked it while it was 4.2.2, and updated it to 4.4, it remains unlocked? And what do you plan to do now that you've unlocked it?
It remains unlocked regardless of which version. Now that you are unlocked. You may install TWRP and superSU. To gain root privileges and get xposed framework with gravity box. Which remains the best combo so far for most who have rooted and are on 4.4.
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It remains locked regardless of which version. Now that you are unlocked. You may install TWRP and superSU. To gain root privileges and get xposed framework with gravity box. Which remains the best combo so far for most who have rooted and are on 4.4.
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Do you mean unlocked regardless of which version?
Yes, seems my autocorrect got the best of me.
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I plan on buying a Verizon moto x NON developer edition. Is the boot loader still unlockable, from xda resources?
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Feldroid said:
I plan on buying a Verizon moto x NON developer edition. Is the boot loader still unlockable, from xda resources?
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The non-developer Moto X on VZW has never been unlockable.
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RenSoAbrupt said:
Picture of it with 4.4.2.
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I reinstalled mine so no can do, it might not have been 4.4.2 exactly but I know it was at least 4.4 for sure.
More than likely 4.4, we are all awaiting the arrival of 4.4.2 and a better camera though.
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imnuts said:
The non-developer Moto X on VZW has never been unlockable.
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Is that expected to change any time soon? I know in the past the dev community has had these things hacked apart like 24 hours after launch. We're now months into the launch of the Moto X and we only recently even got root. So I guess my question is twofold:
1. Is there a reason that the Moto X has proven so darned hard to unlock?
2. What are the limitations of having a locked (but rooted) device as far as custom ROMs, kernels, bootloaders, recoveries, etc.? Coming from a Galaxy Nexus that I was able to fully unlock and root on day one, I have no idea what's accessible via rooting vs. via unlocking. It all just kind of felt the same to me.
N00b questions I know, but I'd really like to know what I can and can't do with this VZW Moto X of mine.
gerodive said:
Is that expected to change any time soon? I know in the past the dev community has had these things hacked apart like 24 hours after launch. We're now months into the launch of the Moto X and we only recently even got root. So I guess my question is twofold:
1. Is there a reason that the Moto X has proven so darned hard to unlock?
2. What are the limitations of having a locked (but rooted) device as far as custom ROMs, kernels, bootloaders, recoveries, etc.? Coming from a Galaxy Nexus that I was able to fully unlock and root on day one, I have no idea what's accessible via rooting vs. via unlocking. It all just kind of felt the same to me.
N00b questions I know, but I'd really like to know what I can and can't do with this VZW Moto X of mine.
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All I can say is the Bionic and Galaxy S4 both on VZW have not been unlocked and never will be.
Either buy the overpriced Dev edition or the unlockable gsm version... when it is discounted again.
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I'm not familiar with the Moto x xt1053 at all, I've been doing some searching using tapatalk so it's not the easiest.
What I'm trying to figure out is if there's a full root method and a tether app that runs off of my phone data rather than my hotspot plan. Also if there's anything else I should know I'm getting myself into. Thank you in advance.
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Nickdroid86 said:
I'm not familiar with the Moto x xt1053 at all, I've been doing some searching using tapatalk so it's not the easiest.
What I'm trying to figure out is if there's a full root method and a tether app that runs off of my phone data rather than my hotspot plan. Also if there's anything else I should know I'm getting myself into. Thank you in advance.
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The XT1053 is either the GSM Developer Edition or the GSM "unlocked" (includes T-Mobile SIM) from Moto Maker.
You can unlock the bootloader on it via Motorola's web site, but unless you have the Developer Edition, you void your warranty. Once the bootloader is unlocked, you can root any rom version on there.
IF you get the Non-Dev Edition and do not want to unlocked (so you keep your warranty), then you have to worry about what rom is on your phone. If it already has 4.4.2 installed, you can't root it with a locked bootloader. If you have 4.4 or lower, you can root, but do NOT take the update to 4.4.2. For more details see what I've already typed over in this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/-t2702982
As for tethering, there are various options once you root depending on your carrier.
Thank you got the info! How do I know if it's the dev edition or not? If it's already on 4.4.2 can I downgrade like I would using Odin with my Samsung?
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Nickdroid86 said:
Thank you got the info! How do I know if it's the dev edition or not? If it's already on 4.4.2 can I downgrade like I would using Odin with my Samsung?
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Dev edition is black face, woven white back, silver accents (button/camera ring) and says "Developer Edition" on the back. "GSM Unlocked' wont say Dev Edition on back, and can be black or other color backs.
as for downgrade, please take the time and use the LINK I supplied, its answered over there.
Awesome, thank you again. This one is a white front and a blue back with green camera ring, trading my lte s3 for it.
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Awesome, thank you again. This one is a white front and a blue back with green camera ring, trading my lte s3 for it.
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Its not dev edition. Then again, the warranty is non-transferrable... so unless the person you are getting it from is a friend/family member who could send it for warranty repair later, the warranty wouldn't apply to you so unlocking wouldn't impact you.
I'm not worried about a warranty at all. So basically, from what I gather, I can root no matter what, but if it's on 4.4.2 I have to unlock the bootloader first?
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Nickdroid86 said:
I'm not worried about a warranty at all. So basically, from what I gather, I can root no matter what, but if it's on 4.4.2 I have to unlock the bootloader first?
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Yup.. as said in the other thread, if its on 4.4 (or lower), you can use SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo to root and disable write protection.
however, unlocking the bootloader & rooting is way way easier.
Awesome, I read it, just wanted to make sure I got it right. I appreciate the help!
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I also need to make sure it's not a clone...
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if your interested in root check out my thread here. it has all the guides you would need to unlocked bootloader, root phone and so forth. enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-how-to-root-4-4-links-guides-t2603358
That was actually very quick and painless. I unlocked the bootloader and it was just like "hey, how's some root". I was like sure, and it was just rooted. Pretty sweet.