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[Q] Stock recoveries - The right one, their behavior and the risks of flashing them

Hi, I have an Unlocked 32GB HTC One (BS_US001) and I'm having a hard time trying to find info about stock recoveries.
My phone currently is on stock 4.1.2, bootloader unlocked, S-Off and rooted. I was using the TWRP recovery, used to root my phone. Since the 4.3 update came out, I was searching for the stock recovery to proceed with the update, but too many different files seems to exist. I just want to install the right recovery and apply the 4.3 update, no full ROM flash.
Yesterday I flashed this recovery file (9MB) and got icons similar of those on the right of this image.
Today, I flashed this one (7.9MB) and got something like this, the little android icon.
Later, I've found another one (9.8MB).
Edit: and another one, a few bytes shorter than the third.
But now I'm little afraid of flashing again, just for the sake of it.
So, first of all, which one is the right file for my phone (yet another one)?
Second, I flash recoveries through fastboot command line (fastboot flash recovery recovery.img). Can this method and command brick my phone?
Third, how the stock recovery behaves on your phone? Both times, when I flashed the files and entered in recovery mode, my phone would boot 2 or 3 times straight into recovery mode again, until it boot itself properly, into the system. Also, recovery mode goes from the green to the red icon and awaits until I reboot the phone again.
Thanks in advance.
Final edit: For the sake of others lost in the lack of good info, I'm editing this old post.
I found some crap advices here and there. One of them was the need to relock the bootloader to accept OTAs. It doesn't make any sense, but if you are seeking help, you will take **** as good advice. Don't do it.
Another bad advice was about the stock recovery. Just open the last update you got (Downloads folder on your phone or get the OTA from HTC website) and extract the recovery.img file. Flash it and you have the proper stock recovery for your phone.
All of this is about the stock HTC One - no custom roms, no xposed changes, nothing. The only thing I did prior to this was to flash TWRP and root. That's how I want my phone for now - stock with root.

I kind of went through this today. Ended up just wiping it, running a RUU and reapplying OTAs.
I'll tell you this… after I went through this I attempted to salvage the stock recovery before rerooting etc. I was stuck trying to get fastboot to boot a recovery instead of flash one. I did find an alternate way to harvest the recovery. I got it out of the ota. I'm not done testing it yet, but my phone was still showing tampered. Flashed cwr and called it a day at that point
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Thank you for your answer. I'm trying to avoid the whole RUU thing, but I'll keep it as a last resource, for sure. Also, I'm trying to understand more about this piece of software called recovery.

The one I sent you is pulled directly from stock 1.29.1540.16 for Dev. edition, which comes with an unlocked bootloader as well. Also, it's signed, which will allow it to be flashed whether you're s-on or off. Assuming your MID is PN0712000, with CID BS_US001, this recovery is your stock and will work. Hope it helps.

kibmikey1 said:
The one I sent you is pulled directly from stock 1.29.1540.16 for Dev. edition, which comes with an unlocked bootloader as well. Also, it's signed, which will allow it to be flashed whether you're s-on or off. Assuming your MID is PN0712000, with CID BS_US001, this recovery is your stock and will work. Hope it helps.
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I've been running into similar issues. For the previous 2 OTA's (1540.3 --> 1540.16 & 1540.16 --> 1540.17), simply reflashed stock recovery, ran the OTA, it updated, then I flashed TWRP again. For the most recent OTA (3.22.1540.1, I think), that seems to not be working, but I can't seem to find the right recovery. I've found 1540.3's recovery, but not 1540.16 (or .17 if there was a new recovery in that OTA). Where did you end up finding it?
Thanks!

bjg222 said:
I've been running into similar issues. For the previous 2 OTA's (1540.3 --> 1540.16 & 1540.16 --> 1540.17), simply reflashed stock recovery, ran the OTA, it updated, then I flashed TWRP again. For the most recent OTA (3.22.1540.1, I think), that seems to not be working, but I can't seem to find the right recovery. I've found 1540.3's recovery, but not 1540.16 (or .17 if there was a new recovery in that OTA). Where did you end up finding it?
Thanks!
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I pulled it directly from my decrypted RUU zip of 1540.16.

Here, there are some of stock recovery.
Check if there is the right version for you.
You have to check the versionmain on your phone

kibmikey1 said:
I pulled it directly from my decrypted RUU zip of 1540.16.
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Would you be willing to share it? I haven't found a decrypted version of the 1540.16 RUU since Bugsy's hosting server stopped hosting downloads (The new thread only has 1540.3 last I checked).
Guich said:
Here, there are some of stock recovery.
Check if there is the right version for you.
You have to check the versionmain on your phone
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Thanks, looks like for the dev edition, those sites only have the new recovery from the Android 4.3 updated (3.22.1540.1), though

bjg222 said:
Thanks, looks like for the dev edition, those sites only have the new recovery from the Android 4.3 updated (3.22.1540.1), though
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Is the 3.22 in the folder

Guich said:
Is the 3.22 in the folder
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In the Dev Edition folder, 3.22 is all that's there. Have you had any luck finding the 1.29.1540.16 recovery? That's the one I need.

bjg222 said:
In the Dev Edition folder, 3.22 is all that's there. Have you had any luck finding the 1.29.1540.16 recovery? That's the one I need.
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1.29.1540.16 Developer Edition signed stock recovery.

Has anyone else flashed stock recovery while on custom ROM? I was pleasantly surprised to discover my SD card was wiped Is this normal, and was there some way I could have figured out this was what was going to happen? I don't really understand what stock recovery does/is for. The only other time I'd flashed stock recovery was after restoring to stock ROM from nandroid.

kibmikey1 said:
1.29.1540.16 Developer Edition signed stock recovery.
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Awesome, thanks!

bjg222 said:
Awesome, thanks!
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Have you had any luck with this? I have a DE 64gb and I'm in the same situation you were/are, I'm on stock recovery but I can't accept the OTA unlike the other 4.1.2 ones. Always gets stuck on the red triangle !.

arikah said:
Have you had any luck with this? I have a DE 64gb and I'm in the same situation you were/are, I'm on stock recovery but I can't accept the OTA unlike the other 4.1.2 ones. Always gets stuck on the red triangle !.
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If you're rooted, unroot through SU, then do a factory reset and try it again.

kibmikey1 said:
If you're rooted, unroot through SU, then do a factory reset and try it again.
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I haven't been rooted since one of the last 4.1.2 updates, because that's when I went back to stock recovery. I was able to accept those OTA packs, why is this one different? I'm really trying to save factory resets or RUU's for the absolute last ditch effort, in fact I'm more likely to stick with 4.1.2 until I can find a way to do this.

help
I have att htc one dev edition, its in soft brick state and i cny get it to do anything, i have tried running the recovery kit, and that get to the end then error 131...
could somebody please suggest some help for me please, thanks in advance

Ota 4.3 & twrp 2.6.3.0

I am relatively new to the HTC. I am running a Stock rooted image with TWRP 2.6.3.0 recovery.
The OTA for 4.3 came down and whenever I start the install the phone reboots and ends up in twrp recovery and I do not know where to go from there. I tried searching the forums but the search is down at the moment.
Here comes the Noob question : A little help please as I am not sure where to go next?

I just asked almost the same question. One thing everyone says is don't take the OTA update.
I found a few places with the pre-rooted stock ROM update, but it does not include the firmware update, that is a separate flashable zip, but I'm not sure how to update the "Full Firmware w/o hboot, boot, recovery" without S-off. I don't know if doing the "full firmware update" will mess up my recovery/root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467607
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46110767

generosity21 said:
I just asked almost the same question. One thing everyone says is don't take the OTA update.
I found a few places with the pre-rooted stock ROM update, but it does not include the firmware update, that is a separate flashable zip, but I'm not sure how to update the "Full Firmware w/o hboot, boot, recovery" without S-off. I don't know if doing the "full firmware update" will mess up my recovery/root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467607
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46110767
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I have been all over the forums looking at this and came up with squat.
If I take the OTA will I loose root? Can't seem to find an answer to that.
I was running an earlier version of twrp and thought that might be the issue but after updating twrp I am still at the same place. The sprint update notifications are still coming.
If I find something I will post it here.

Must be on stock firmware and recovery to take the update guys.... It has been posted numerous times. You must also ahve the stock kernel.
Yes you will lose root if you take the OTA, you always do. Also TWRP appears to be broken with 4.3, no responsive, etc, etc

jziggy101 said:
I am relatively new to the HTC. I am running a Stock rooted image with TWRP 2.6.3.0 recovery.
The OTA for 4.3 came down and whenever I start the install the phone reboots and ends up in twrp recovery and I do not know where to go from there. I tried searching the forums but the search is down at the moment.
Here comes the Noob question : A little help please as I am not sure where to go next?
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you can't flash the update with custom recovery installed, you need thev stock recovery image which is posted numerous times in this forum

jziggy101 said:
The OTA for 4.3 came down and whenever I start the install the phone reboots and ends up in twrp recovery and I do not know where to go from there.
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You have to have stock recovery to take the OTA
generosity21 said:
I just asked almost the same question. One thing everyone says is don't take the OTA update.
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You can take the OTA if you are prepared for, and know what to do - also, don't take it if you are currently S-ON and ever want S-OFF because it comes with a new hboot.
jziggy101 said:
If I take the OTA will I loose root? Can't seem to find an answer to that.
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Yes, you will probably lose root unless you are using the OTA preservation function of SuperSU and it works for you, but either way, it is easy to get it back.
Bottom line, how you take the OTA depends on whether you are S-ON or S-OFF, the latter is much easier. Assuming you are S-ON and running the Sprint stock ROM, here is what you need to do.
1. Flash stock recovery.
2. Lock the bootloader
3. Take the OTA update
4. Unlock the bootloader
5. Flash custom recovery (TWRP)
6. Flash root (SuperSU)
If you are S-off you can skip numbers 2 and 4.

Aldo101t said:
you can't flash the update with custom recovery installed, you need thev stock recovery image which is posted numerous times in this forum
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Thanks for the replies. It's very confusing whether people are referencing the OTA update, or the tweaked, rooted downloadable update (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46110767). This forum should be friendly to questions when things are confusing.
Even with the two replies on this thread, it's still not clear to me if the downloadable (NOT OTA) updates can be flashed with a custom recovery, or what the procedure is for an S-On device regarding firmware and ROM updates. Sorry to offend anyone if they feel this has been answered somewhere in the forums, but it's still unclear to some of us.
EDIT: 
 @PillowMetal Thanks for the very helpful reply. I guess the next question is, is it possible to get S-Off on 1.31.651.2 without losing everything?

Kraizk said:
Must be on stock firmware and recovery to take the update guys.... It has been posted numerous times. You must also ahve the stock kernel.
Yes you will lose root if you take the OTA, you always do. Also TWRP appears to be broken with 4.3, no responsive, etc, etc
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If your not stock ota will mess you up big time. I just rooted my HTC one on sprint with the update that was on a swap out for bad speakers . Twrp isn't responsive if you use the one in toolkit. I downloaded 2.6.3 loaded it in the data folder of toolkit installed through the toolkit and bam... I got response out of Twrp. I'll find the link and post for you guys.
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generosity21 said:
@PillowMetal Thanks for the very helpful reply. I guess the next question is, is it possible to get S-Off on 1.31.651.2 without losing everything?
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Not without losing everything because it requires tricking your bootloader by writing to your misc partition, then running the 1.29 RUU - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390821

http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/m7wls
This is the link for people who are stock and unlocking their phone. If you're using the toolkit put it in the data folder and rename to twrp. Be careful though the other files are the same name but in capital letters! Flash it and u will have responsive twrp and rooted 4.3 ota
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---------- Post added at 02:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:34 PM ----------
Anyone having poor reception?
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PillowMetal said:
Not without losing everything because it requires tricking your bootloader by writing to your misc partition, then running the 1.29 RUU - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390821
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Tried this once more, and successfully got S-off without downgrading anything, as a few others have reported.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582

Brand new device Stock 1.29 Rom Uninstalled SuperSU Unrooted for Updates
PillowMetal said:
You have to have stock recovery to take the OTA
You can take the OTA if you are prepared for, and know what to do - also, don't take it if you are currently S-ON and ever want S-OFF because it comes with a new hboot.
Yes, you will probably lose root unless you are using the OTA preservation function of SuperSU and it works for you, but either way, it is easy to get it back.
Bottom line, how you take the OTA depends on whether you are S-ON or S-OFF, the latter is much easier. Assuming you are S-ON and running the Sprint stock ROM, here is what you need to do.
1. Flash stock recovery.
2. Lock the bootloader
3. Take the OTA update
4. Unlock the bootloader
5. Flash custom recovery (TWRP)
6. Flash root (SuperSU)
If you are S-off you can skip numbers 2 and 4.
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Think I messed up a step in my attempt to return to unroot to be ready to get the 4.3 jellybean update. I was stock rom 1.29, rooted, SuperSU, twerp 2.6.3. Unlocked sim. I unistalled SuperSU using the full unroot option and relocked the bootloader. When the phone attempts to update it reboots into the bootloader straight into fastboot. Will not reboot and stay in hboot. Recovery option does nothing. Do I even want the ota 1.31? Do I just skip the OTA 1.31 and get the 4.3 jellybean update. I'm new first Android phone. Sorry for the idiocy I have portrayed here. Hope someone can help with knowledge of OTA's and Jellybean update. My problem seems so simple compared to all the other posts I read but I can't seem to figure it out on my own. Thanks everyone

upowersystems said:
Think I messed up a step in my attempt to return to unroot to be ready to get the 4.3 jellybean update. I was stock rom 1.29, rooted, SuperSU, twerp 2.6.3. Unlocked sim. I unistalled SuperSU using the full unroot option and relocked the bootloader. When the phone attempts to update it reboots into the bootloader straight into fastboot. Will not reboot and stay in hboot. Recovery option does nothing. Do I even want the ota 1.31? Do I just skip the OTA 1.31 and get the 4.3 jellybean update. I'm new first Android phone. Sorry for the idiocy I have portrayed here. Hope someone can help with knowledge of OTA's and Jellybean update. My problem seems so simple compared to all the other posts I read but I can't seem to figure it out on my own. Thanks everyone
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Did you flash stock recovery? The OTA needs that. You did not need to unroot though. Also not sure if having an unlocked SIM interferes with OTA, never performed that myself. Since we don't have RUUs for anything later than 1.29, then yes, you will need to take the 1.31 OTA update first, then the 3.04 update.

Twerp to Stock recovery
PillowMetal said:
Did you flash stock recovery? The OTA needs that. You did not need to unroot though. Also not sure if having an unlocked SIM interferes with OTA, never performed that myself. Since we don't have RUUs for anything later than 1.29, then yes, you will need to take the 1.31 OTA update first, then the 3.04 update.
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Darn, no I did not flash the stock recovery. Also I read another thread said I needed to unroot!lol So I was back tracing my steps to unroot, so I thought.. I did save the original backup before installing Twerp 2.6.3 and rooting so its in there if I can get to it. I really dont know how to proceed from here. There are no options in the bootloader to proceed.

Twerp vs Stock recovery
PillowMetal said:
Did you flash stock recovery? The OTA needs that. You did not need to unroot though. Also not sure if having an unlocked SIM interferes with OTA, never performed that myself. Since we don't have RUUs for anything later than 1.29, then yes, you will need to take the 1.31 OTA update first, then the 3.04 update.
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Do I need to figure out how to flash or return to stock recovery from Twerp or can I simploy flash the 1.29 ruu back in to the device for a return to stock?

Twerp 2.6.3
PillowMetal said:
Did you flash stock recovery? The OTA needs that. You did not need to unroot though. Also not sure if having an unlocked SIM interferes with OTA, never performed that myself. Since we don't have RUUs for anything later than 1.29, then yes, you will need to take the 1.31 OTA update first, then the 3.04 update.
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Kraizk said:
Must be on stock firmware and recovery to take the update guys.... It has been posted numerous times. You must also ahve the stock kernel.
Yes you will lose root if you take the OTA, you always do. Also TWRP appears to be broken with 4.3, no responsive, etc, etc
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Maybe you can help. Will a re-install of the stock ruu 1.29 without removing twerp 2.6.3 and reverting to stock recovery cause issues.. Will this just completely re-install everything including stock Recovery or will twerp remain. I am running stock 1.29 rom, did save an original backup when I loaded twerp. How would I get in it to load it. Then I would not need to load the complete ruu. When I try for the ota it used to reboot to twerp. Since I unrooted it reboots to bootloader and there are NO options for load, Recovery option doesnt work. I have asked this question on several threads no one seems to know or its too simple for them to reply since I'm a newb. Thanks

upowersystems said:
Maybe you can help. Will a re-install of the stock ruu 1.29 without removing twerp 2.6.3 and reverting to stock recovery cause issues.. Will this just completely re-install everything including stock Recovery or will twerp remain. I am running stock 1.29 rom, did save an original backup when I loaded twerp. How would I get in it to load it. Then I would not need to load the complete ruu. When I try for the ota it used to reboot to twerp. Since I unrooted it reboots to bootloader and there are NO options for load, Recovery option doesnt work. I have asked this question on several threads no one seems to know or its too simple for them to reply since I'm a newb. Thanks
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Are you S-Off? Is so, the easiest way to to get up to date for you would be to RUU back to 1.29 which will restore everything on your phone back to stock including recovery. Make sure you copy anything you want to keep off your phone's internal memory (/sdcard) because it will wipe that too.
But from there, you can then easily take the OTA update for 1.31, then take the update for 3.04. Now you have the latest and greatest and can now flash TWRP, SuperSU, and any 4.3 ROM you want. With S-Off, you do not need the bootloader unlocked, but if you want to, you can flash an old hboot 1.29 from May or earlier and use revone -u, or go through htcdev to unlock. But like I said, totally unnecessary and more of a pain for me than it is worth.
Now, if you are S-ON, that is a totally different story, you cannot flash back to 1.29 RUU unless you still on 1.29 and have not updated to 1.31 yet. If you are currently on 1.31 you will have to try and restore the backup you said you had through TWRP, flash stock recovery from fastboot, re-lock your bootloader and all kinds of other crap to get to 3.04 and unlocked and rooted again.
You would have to tell me more about what condition your phone is currently in. hboot version? recovery custom or stock? ROM version installed? S-On or S-Off, etc.

Current State
PillowMetal said:
Are you S-Off? Is so, the easiest way to to get up to date for you would be to RUU back to 1.29 which will restore everything on your phone back to stock including recovery. Make sure you copy anything you want to keep off your phone's internal memory (/sdcard) because it will wipe that too.
But from there, you can then easily take the OTA update for 1.31, then take the update for 3.04. Now you have the latest and greatest and can now flash TWRP, SuperSU, and any 4.3 ROM you want. With S-Off, you do not need the bootloader unlocked, but if you want to, you can flash an old hboot 1.29 from May or earlier and use revone -u, or go through htcdev to unlock. But like I said, totally unnecessary and more of a pain for me than it is worth.
Now, if you are S-ON, that is a totally different story, you cannot flash back to 1.29 RUU unless you still on 1.29 and have not updated to 1.31 yet. If you are currently on 1.31 you will have to try and restore the backup you said you had through TWRP, flash stock recovery from fastboot, re-lock your bootloader and all kinds of other crap to get to 3.04 and unlocked and rooted again.
You would have to tell me more about what condition your phone is currently in. hboot version? recovery custom or stock? ROM version installed? S-On or S-Off, etc.
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Was told if I un-rooted and relocked the bootloader I should be able to update. This is a brand new phone. No data to worry about losing.
Currently:
Stock ROM 1.29, S-On, (Was rooted) Now Unrooted
Hboot 1.44 (Bootloader relocked)
Twerp Recovery (although with attempt to update to 1.31 twerp did not open as it did in prior attempts to update before unroot)
Now You have opened an interesting subject. Do I need to S-off before any updates to defeat the new hboot? New stuff is being written for the new hboot as we speak right? Read a thread last night about it. Sounded like they could s-off a 1.31 and I wouldn't need to worry about s-off'ing before upgrading. It also seems like I should be able to re load the backup of the stock recovery somehow and skip the complete load of the ruu 1.29 since I am already running it. I am probably making somethong more difficult than it needs to be but I would like to learn the little details. My first Android here. Want to learn quickly here as I Also bought the New 4g LTE Nexus 7 tablet with jelly bean. I get 4g LTE from T-mobile and just hotspot my phone.

upowersystems said:
Was told if I un-rooted and relocked the bootloader I should be able to update. This is a brand new phone. No data to worry about losing.
Currently:
Stock ROM 1.29, S-On, (Was rooted) Now Unrooted
Hboot 1.44 (Bootloader relocked)
Twerp Recovery (although with attempt to update to 1.31 twerp did not open as it did in prior attempts to update before unroot)
Now You have opened an interesting subject. Do I need to S-off before any updates to defeat the new hboot? New stuff is being written for the new hboot as we speak right? Read a thread last night about it. Sounded like they could s-off a 1.31 and I wouldn't need to worry about s-off'ing before upgrading. It also seems like I should be able to re load the backup of the stock recovery somehow and skip the complete load of the ruu 1.29 since I am already running it. I am probably making somethong more difficult than it needs to be but I would like to learn the little details. My first Android here. Want to learn quickly here as I Also bought the New 4g LTE Nexus 7 tablet with jelly bean. I get 4g LTE from T-mobile and just hotspot my phone.
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If you don't want to go the RUU route, then the condition your phone is currently in would only require you to flash stock recovery from 1.29.651.10 (which I got from the actual OTA file). The problem is that your bootloader is now locked and your are S-ON, so you will not be able to flash stock recovery unless you unlock again. If you still have the unlock.bin file from htcdev, that will still work if was done on your current hboot version, otherwise, you would have to visit the site again. Then flash stock recovery, and relock bootloader again. Then the 1.31 update will succeed followed by the 3.04 update.
As far as S-OFF, if you ever want it, you should get it now before updating to anything - even 1.31 (as long as the date on your hboot is May 2013 or earlier). Because, you WILL get the new hboots when you update to 1.31 and 3.04 and since you are S-ON, you will be stuck with it. There is no guarantee that you will ever be able to get S-OFF again with the new hboots. People on hboot 1.54 have been waiting and clamoring for months and there has been no progress and other phones have never even been able to get S-OFF.
Using revone to S-OFF will not wipe your phone or remove anything, it does not require root, and it you do not need to be unlocked. I have performed it from the computer 3 times on Sprint phones and even have made a post about how to make it succeed. There is also a video showing how it can be done on the phone too via terminal emulator, but that method requires root.
Having S-OFF just makes life so much easier, but with it carries great responsibility because security has been turned off and you need to know what you are flashing or you can run into trouble. But as long as you can get to the bootloader, you can recover.

PillowMetal said:
You have to have stock recovery to take the OTA
You can take the OTA if you are prepared for, and know what to do - also, don't take it if you are currently S-ON and ever want S-OFF because it comes with a new hboot.
Yes, you will probably lose root unless you are using the OTA preservation function of SuperSU and it works for you, but either way, it is easy to get it back.
Bottom line, how you take the OTA depends on whether you are S-ON or S-OFF, the latter is much easier. Assuming you are S-ON and running the Sprint stock ROM, here is what you need to do.
1. Flash stock recovery.
2. Lock the bootloader
3. Take the OTA update
4. Unlock the bootloader
5. Flash custom recovery (TWRP)
6. Flash root (SuperSU)
If you are S-off you can skip numbers 2 and 4.
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On the att variant you don't need to relock the boot loader to ota.
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[Q] Downgrading FW Using Custom Recovery ?

If I created a custom recovery file using CWM when the phone was on FW 4.3, if I then updated to 4.4.2 and say I didn't like it.
Could I restore the phone back to 4.3 by using the recovery file I created before updating ?
Thank you.

0-0-0 said:
If I created a custom recovery file using CWM when the phone was on FW 4.3, if I then updated to 4.4.2 and say I didn't like it.
Could I restore the phone back to 4.3 by using the recovery file I created before updating ?
Thank you.
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hmm, that's interesting, but
1- why?
2- you definitely need to be S-Off
3- i think/believe, you can only have firmware parts which can be flashed using normal bootloader mode (such as boot.img and recovery.img), not RUU mode.
4- don't try to include hboot plus other stuff; as you probably know flashing firmware in ruu mode, requires two consecutive flashes, the first is the hboot pre-update, the second flashes the remaining firmware part.
but I wouldn't risk it to be honest, you can't be sure what's writable or not during custom recovery, and what could get corrupted and give you a hard brick.
firmware is (and should be) flashed in "fastboot oem rebootRUU" mode, and there's a reason for that... I wouldnt risk trying to flash a firmware package in custom recovery, imho.
PS: not to mention, you don't know how the custom recovery will "interpret" the contents of your zip... and where it would possibly flash stuff.... i guess you'd have to write a script to "dd" the partitions, and hope that works.... too dangerous in my opinion!!
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0-0-0 said:
If I created a custom recovery file using CWM when the phone was on FW 4.3, if I then updated to 4.4.2 and say I didn't like it.
Could I restore the phone back to 4.3 by using the recovery file I created before updating ?
Thank you.
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EDIT: wait are you talking about firmware or just your nandroid backup
... maybe my previous post was a bit too quick and only focused on your title "Downgrading FW Using Custom Recovery ?"

Thanks for the reply.
I'm S-Off.
Yes, I'm talking about both, Android JG 4.3 to KK 4.4, plus the Nandroid backup created when the phone is using 4.3.
I don't understand some of your other comments (hboot & RUU etc), they are above my skill level.
But, I understand the basics of creating/restoring backups.

0-0-0 said:
Thanks for the reply.
I'm S-Off.
Yes, I'm talking about both, Android JG 4.3 to KK 4.4, plus the Nandroid backup created when the phone is using 4.3.
I don't understand some of your other comments (hboot & RUU etc), they are above my skill level.
But, I understand the basics of creating/restoring backups.
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I think I moved/answered a little too fast....
If you want to try a 4.4 ROM go ahead, no problem (you need the correct recovery for 4.4 ROMs... TWRP 2.6.3.3+ is recommended at the moment for m7_u/ul models).
The nandroid (backup in recovery) will include everything except many parts of the firmware, which are really not needed at the moment; and do not get overwritten by installing a 4.4 ROM!!
Basically what I'm saying, is you do not need to upgrade firmware to run a 4.4 ROM, nor do you need to downgrade it to restore a 4.3 ROM.
in a simple view (at least on the M7): ROM = kernel, system and data partitions ... and at this point in time is not dependent on firmware
yes upgrading firmware to be inline with the ROM can have advantages, but it's not necessary.... some people are running 4.4.2 ROMs (including the Sense 6 ports) on firmwares as old as 1.xx
I hope that sort of answers your question :angel:

Thanks again for the reply.
I actually wanted to update from 4.3 to 4.4.2 via OTA updates (I should have mentioned that, sorry).
But, from your reply, I will find a custom 4.4.2 stock ROM and install that.
Then I can return to 4.3 with the CWM recovery file (after I swapped from TWRP to CWM) if I want to.
The reason I want to "test" 4.4.2 first, is because the Firewall I use "NoRoot Firewall" isn't supposed to fully work with 4.4 and above.
I like it, because it offers the user "prompts" when an app connects online. And all the others I've tried don't.

0-0-0 said:
Thanks again for the reply.
I actually wanted to update from 4.3 to 4.4.2 via OTA updates (I should have mentioned that, sorry).
But, from your reply, I will find a custom 4.4.2 stock ROM and install that.
Then I can return to 4.3 with the CWM recovery file (after I swapped from TWRP to CWM) if I want to.
The reason I want to "test" 4.4.2 first, is because the Firewall I use "NoRoot Firewall" isn't supposed to fully work with 4.4 and above.
I like it, because it offers the user "prompts" when an app connects online. And all the others I've tried don't.
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taking an OTA update won't prevent you from going back with your Nandroid backup. however being able to take the OTA update means returning your phone to Stock / no custom recovery. which alot of times means totally wiping the phone with a RUU to take the OTA

Thank you for your reply.
I've just installed a custom 4.4.2 ROM and even NoRoot Firewall works
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[Q] Cant get OTA, for ViperOne update

I have my Sprint HTC One m8 and I'd like to update to ViperOne ROM 3.1.0
I was using ViperOne 1.8.0, but to install the new version I need to get things back to stock so I can get all the OTA's up to the most recent update, and then flash the new ViperOne.
I've gotten this far and now I'm stuck...
Flashed Sprint_HTC_One_M8_1.54.651.8_RUU and now it boots into the stock no problem. Flashed the stock recovery here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2736048 . When I start the phone it recognizes there is an update, but when it tries to install it, the process quits about a quarter of the way through, it gives off the red ! with triangle, then eventually reboots back into android. I feel like I'm missing a step here somewhere, not sure why the stock recovery doesnt work. I can flash back and forth from the stock recovery and twrp, and twrp works. I have access to fastboot if needed.
General specs of the phone as I believe they still are...
S-Off (htc unlock)
Rooted
1.54.651.8 Stock rom
hboot 3.16.00 (i flashed some mod a long time ago to hide the red development message you'd get)
Anything else you need?

Scrufdog said:
I have my Sprint HTC One m8 and I'd like to update to ViperOne ROM 3.1.0
I was using ViperOne 1.8.0, but to install the new version I need to get things back to stock so I can get all the OTA's up to the most recent update, and then flash the new ViperOne.
I've gotten this far and now I'm stuck...
Flashed Sprint_HTC_One_M8_1.54.651.8_RUU and now it boots into the stock no problem. Flashed the stock recovery here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2736048 . When I start the phone it recognizes there is an update, but when it tries to install it, the process quits about a quarter of the way through, it gives off the red ! with triangle, then eventually reboots back into android. I feel like I'm missing a step here somewhere, not sure why the stock recovery doesnt work. I can flash back and forth from the stock recovery and twrp, and twrp works. I have access to fastboot if needed.
General specs of the phone as I believe they still are...
S-Off (htc unlock)
Rooted
1.54.651.8 Stock rom
hboot 3.16.00 (i flashed some mod a long time ago to hide the red development message you'd get)
Anything else you need?
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delete the cache after flash stock recovery ? fastboot erase cache

dawexxl said:
delete the cache after flash stock recovery ? fastboot erase cache
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did that, didnt help, but thx

does the phone have to be S-On with a locked bootloader to recieve OTAs?

Scrufdog said:
does the phone have to be S-On with a locked bootloader to recieve OTAs?
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If you're S-off, no.
You might want to take a look at the thread in the link below. It pretty much covers what you have to do to take the OTA. Since you're S-off, why not install the firmware for the latest update and then flash a ROM based off the latest update? Much simpler than having to go through all the steps you're going through.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2888993

yeah, i was trying to update via methods that were a couple weeks old, which of course are old.... lol
I installed the latest ROM from sprint, then install ViperOne on top of it, going through the install right now. Wifi is working so I guess the firmware updated correctly.
Thanks

Finally Rooted My HTC One M7, Now What....

Well I've finally rooted my HTC One M7 after months of saying I'll do it soon, I've also flashed the latest CWM recovery on there but now my question is what do I do now? I've downloaded some apps that need root permissions but nothing great. What I want is an OS that uses minimal RAM and battery. I've seen LiquidOS but that runs Android KitKat, are there any that run on Android Lollipop?
Thanks

AJHylton said:
Well I've finally rooted my HTC One M7 after months of saying I'll do it soon, I've also flashed the latest CWM recovery on there but now my question is what do I do now? I've downloaded some apps that need root permissions but nothing great.
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Normally you only root a phone if you need to use something that requires root privileges. Its like saying: I finally managed to open that locked door to access this room where there is nothing inside that I really need... now what?
What I want is an OS that uses minimal RAM and battery. I've seen LiquidOS but that runs Android KitKat, are there any that run on Android Lollipop?
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If you want to flash a custom rom, you don't need to root, only need to unlock the bootlaoder and flash a custom recovery (like you already did in the process of rooting). Most custom roms are pre-rooted anyway. There a lot of lollipop roms out there, check in the development section of this forum (Sense 6/7 + Lollipop or GPE lollipop). What will be the best rom for you? Its hard to tell, test a few one yourself, its the best way to find out. If you want something stripped down then probably a GPE rom will fit your needs otherwise if you prefer to have a more "complete" experience I would say go with Sense (6 or 7) rom.

alray said:
Normally you only root a phone if you need to use something that requires root privileges. Its like saying: I finally managed to open that locked door to access this room where there is nothing inside that I really need... now what?
If you want to flash a custom rom, you don't need to root, only need to unlock the bootlaoder and flash a custom recovery (like you already did in the process of rooting). Most custom roms are pre-rooted anyway. There a lot of lollipop roms out there, check in the development section of this forum (Sense 6/7 + Lollipop or GPE lollipop). What will be the best rom for you? Its hard to tell, test a few one yourself, its the best way to find out. If you want something stripped down then probably a GPE rom will fit your needs otherwise if you prefer to have a more "complete" experience I would say go with Sense (6 or 7) rom.
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I'd like to add - change recovery to TWRP as it's recomended for most ROMs out there

Thank you, I think I'm going to go for ViperOne by Team Venom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2334294)
This is the first time I'll be doing this so any tips or anything you'd advise me on doing?
Thank you

AJHylton said:
Thank you, I think I'm going to go for ViperOne by Team Venom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2334294)
This is the first time I'll be doing this so any tips or anything you'd advise me on doing?
Thank you
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yep,
Do a Nandroid backup of your current setup before flashing anything so if something goes wrong, you can simply restore that backup and use your phone. Better to save the backup your computer so if its wiped from the phone accidentally, you still have a copy.
read the OP of the ROM you want to flash twice before proceeding
Newer Sense roms (lollipop) requires a recent firmware on your phone to work properly (a 7.xx.xxx.x version). Confirm that before flashing the rom using "fastboot getvar all". The version-main number is your firmware version.
Ask questions if you are unsure about something, better than bricking your phone
You might also want to check if there is a RUU to return your phone back to stock in case you need to in the future. (your version-main will tell you the RUU version you'll need)

alray said:
yep,
Do a Nandroid backup of your current setup before flashing anything so if something goes wrong, you can simply restore that backup and use your phone. Better to save the backup your computer so if its wiped from the phone accidentally, you still have a copy.
read the OP of the ROM you want to flash twice before proceeding
Newer Sense roms (lollipop) requires a recent firmware on your phone to work properly (a 7.xx.xxx.x version). Confirm that before flashing the rom using "fastboot getvar all". The version-main number is your firmware version.
Ask questions if you are unsure about something, better than bricking your phone
You might also want to check if there is a RUU to return your phone back to stock in case you need to in the future. (your version-main will tell you the RUU version you'll need)
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Thank you very much I think I'm ready to do it I just need to flash TWRP recovery on as I have CWM, the only 2 questions I have are;
Do I need to do anything with the bootloader, its currently unlocked but I've read on other forums some of them require the bootloader to be locked but S-Off or something? There's nothing about this in the Viper install instructions I'm just wondering if it's relevant?
Also an RUU, is that basically a recovery file with an OS? If so would I still need to look into this if I've already done a Nandroid backup?
Thank you for all your help.

AJHylton said:
Thank you very much I think I'm ready to do it I just need to flash TWRP recovery on as I have CWM, the only 2 questions I have are;
Do I need to do anything with the bootloader, its currently unlocked but I've read on other forums some of them require the bootloader to be locked but S-Off or something? There's nothing about this in the Viper install instructions I'm just wondering if it's relevant?
Also an RUU, is that basically a recovery file with an OS? If so would I still need to look into this if I've already done a Nandroid backup?
Thank you for all your help.
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You don't need S-OFF to flash a custom rom, only an unlocked bootloader with a custom recovery.
A RUU is a factory image. It can reflash the software and firmware back to stock if needed. Its useful to know if there is one for your phone just in case you can't restore your phone using your backup for whatever reason. Tell me what your version-main is and I'll tell you if there is a RUU somewhere.

alray said:
You don't need S-OFF to flash a custom rom, only an unlocked bootloader with a custom recovery.
A RUU is a factory image. It can reflash the software and firmware back to stock if needed. Its useful to know if there is one for your phone just in case you can't restore your phone using your backup for whatever reason. Tell me what your version-main is and I'll tell you if there is a RUU somewhere.
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Apologies this is a really noob question but how do I find that out because I've been looking at it says about using fastboot in a command window but all I get is "Waiting for device"
edit: apologies I just realised I had to actually be in fastboot mode *duhh* my version main is - version-main: 7.19.401.30
Thank you

AJHylton said:
Apologies this is a really noob question but how do I find that out because I've been looking at it says about using fastboot in a command window but all I get is "Waiting for device"
edit: apologies I just realised I had to actually be in fastboot mode *duhh* my version main is - version-main: 7.19.401.30
Thank you
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There is no RUU for 7.19.401.30 but there is one for 7.19.401.22 which can be used on your phone if needed in the future. :good: