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Hi everyone!
This is my first post, since I never had any trouble toying around with my device. I have a rooted Incredible S, that ran MIUI perfectly. I want to return back to stock (this is imperative) and use the official ICS by HTC. I tried putting back my nandroid backup, which didn't work (perhaps an incompatible radio? I have no idea...). That's when I downloaded a stock, cracked ROM from a thread I found here. This is a Gingerbread ROM with Sence 3.0 I think. Obviously, I can't get the OTA to work. I think the issue here is that my recovery is still CWM, and that OTA only works with the stock recovery (this is what I concluded from research).
This is where I'm having trouble. A RUU doesn't seem to recognise my device, so that's not an option right now. Windows recognises my SD card when I hook up my phone through USB, so I can install ROMs just fine. Is there any way to get the stock recovery and the stock ROM without using a RUU, while keeping my device rooted? I really want all of this to be stock, so no mods, hacks or tweaks. I want my phone to be in the same state as when I bought it and rooted it, before installing custom ROMS. Is this possible?
Many, many thanks in advance!
gladii said:
Hi everyone!
This is my first post, since I never had any trouble toying around with my device. I have a rooted Incredible S, that ran MIUI perfectly. I want to return back to stock (this is imperative) and use the official ICS by HTC. I tried putting back my nandroid backup, which didn't work (perhaps an incompatible radio? I have no idea...). That's when I downloaded a stock, cracked ROM from a thread I found here. This is a Gingerbread ROM with Sence 3.0 I think. Obviously, I can't get the OTA to work. I think the issue here is that my recovery is still CWM, and that OTA only works with the stock recovery (this is what I concluded from research).
This is where I'm having trouble. A RUU doesn't seem to recognise my device, so that's not an option right now. Windows recognises my SD card when I hook up my phone through USB, so I can install ROMs just fine. Is there any way to get the stock recovery and the stock ROM without using a RUU, while keeping my device rooted? I really want all of this to be stock, so no mods, hacks or tweaks. I want my phone to be in the same state as when I bought it and rooted it, before installing custom ROMS. Is this possible?
Many, many thanks in advance!
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Hey mate, official welcome from me Second welcome from me today lol
I would advise against going s-on and fully stock.
You cannot run a ruu or ota with a custom recovery/root.
So the easiest way to get the stock experience you want is by flashing one of tpbklake's rooted stock roms. They are basically stock roms with root and can run on a custom recovery. No tweaks or anything
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773520
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756500
The link above (top one) is based off a newer ruu from asia, although there is not much difference
I would also suggest to try ARHD 3.0.x for the stock optimised rom
Also which bootloader version do you have?
gladii said:
Hi everyone!
This is my first post, since I never had any trouble toying around with my device. I have a rooted Incredible S, that ran MIUI perfectly. I want to return back to stock (this is imperative) and use the official ICS by HTC. I tried putting back my nandroid backup, which didn't work (perhaps an incompatible radio? I have no idea...). That's when I downloaded a stock, cracked ROM from a thread I found here. This is a Gingerbread ROM with Sence 3.0 I think. Obviously, I can't get the OTA to work. I think the issue here is that my recovery is still CWM, and that OTA only works with the stock recovery (this is what I concluded from research).
This is where I'm having trouble. A RUU doesn't seem to recognise my device, so that's not an option right now. Windows recognises my SD card when I hook up my phone through USB, so I can install ROMs just fine. Is there any way to get the stock recovery and the stock ROM without using a RUU, while keeping my device rooted? I really want all of this to be stock, so no mods, hacks or tweaks. I want my phone to be in the same state as when I bought it and rooted it, before installing custom ROMS. Is this possible?
Many, many thanks in advance!
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Yes there a some ROMs in the Development section that are completely stock that you can flash through recovery.
The original GB 2.3.3/Sense 2.1, the GB 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 and the latest ICS 4.0.4/Sense 3.6
markj338 said:
Hey mate, official welcome from me Second welcome from me today lol
I would advise against going s-on and fully stock.
You cannot run a ruu or ota with a custom recovery/root.
So the easiest way to get the stock experience you want is by flashing one of tpbklake's rooted stock roms. They are basically stock roms with root and can run on a custom recovery. No tweaks or anything
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773520
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756500
The link above (top one) is based off a newer ruu from asia, although there is not much difference
I would also suggest to try ARHD 3.0.x for the stock optimised rom
Also which bootloader version do you have?
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I'm going to sell my device so I need it back the way it was. I want to keep it rooted though, so that the next owner can decide for himself what he wants to do with it. If he he's no techie, he can enjoy the device in stock (including OTAs, or can this be done like you mentioned?). If whe wants to toy with it, he can do that too. If it's easier to just go back to stock entirely, that's fine too.
It seems that I can no longer get into hboot now? After installing that hacked gingerbread, my device just boots into Android when pressing volume down and power??
tpbklake, I'll try to flash one of those when I can get back into recovery
Weird.. Taking out the battery fixed my recovery issue. I'll flash that ROM
Btw I seem to have hboot 6.13.1002 and radio 3805.06.03.03_M. Is this the info you need?
gladii said:
Weird.. Taking out the battery fixed my recovery issue. I'll flash that ROM
Btw I seem to have hboot 6.13.1002 and radio 3805.06.03.03_M. Is this the info you need?
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Yes
But since you want stock it won't matter
You CANNOT have both root and ota updates
Either one or the other unfortunately
You have to make a choice a rooted stock ROM will be identical to the official ota from htc but you will be able to keep root, but can't get ota updates
but unfortunately I think sense 3.6 4.0.4 is the last update
But, I have been proven wrong before
Sent from my Nexus 7
K then in my case a full stock device would be best. How do I get started with this? First install a stock ROM, then the stock recovery and then put It back in S-OFF? Which ROM should I install (would prefer the stock 2.3.3)? And where can I find the recovery? Sorry for the basic questions but those lists of ROMs can get a bit complicated..
Still getting nowhere If I flash a stock ROM in CWM, my recovery won't go back to stock, will it? Shouldn't I try to get the stock recovery first and then use a RUU? Problem is that I can't seem to find a stock recovery anywhere. And when I extract the ROM from a RUU, it's only about 180 MB, so that can't be right, can it?
gladii said:
Still getting nowhere If I flash a stock ROM in CWM, my recovery won't go back to stock, will it? Shouldn't I try to get the stock recovery first and then use a RUU? Problem is that I can't seem to find a stock recovery anywhere. And when I extract the ROM from a RUU, it's only about 180 MB, so that can't be right, can it?
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Which ruu? Here's a good guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359555 but I find it faster to flash the alparev then run the ruu, 2 steps and done.
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Which ruu? Here's a good guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359555 but I find it faster to flash the alparev then run the ruu, 2 steps and done.
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Sorry for the late reply. I've been busy with exams. I've tried the RUU RUU_IncredibleC_Verizon_WWE_1.22.605.0_Radio_1.00.03.04.06_release_161493_NoDriver (but I don't actually have a Verizon, could that be the problem?).
I really have no idea what all the info in the filename means, so it's difficult to find one that fits my needs. I'll take a look at your link right now and report back!
gladii said:
Sorry for the late reply. I've been busy with exams. I've tried the RUU RUU_IncredibleC_Verizon_WWE_1.22.605.0_Radio_1.00.03.04.06_release_161493_NoDriver (but I don't actually have a Verizon, could that be the problem?).
I really have no idea what all the info in the filename means, so it's difficult to find one that fits my needs. I'll take a look at your link right now and report back!
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DO NOT attemtp to flash that one!!!! The Verizon DINC2 is a CDMA device and the radio is not compatible.
Please read the post that nonverbose referenced for you. That tells you all you need to do.
tpbklake said:
DO NOT attemtp to flash that one!!!! The Verizon DINC2 is a CDMA device and the radio is not compatible.
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Wow, good thing it didn't succeed! How about this one:
RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_HTC_ARA_2.30.415.1_Radio_20.2808.30.085AU_3805.06.03.03_M_release_199399_signed.exe
(download link: http://www.filefactory.com/file/c0af340/n/RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_HTC_ARA_2.30.415.1_Radio_20.2808.30.085AU_3805.06.03.03_M_release_199399_signed.exe)
gladii said:
Wow, good thing it didn't succeed! How about this one:
RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_HTC_ARA_2.30.415.1_Radio_20.2808.30.085AU_3805.06.03.03_M_release_199399_signed.exe
(download link: http://www.filefactory.com/file/c0a...5AU_3805.06.03.03_M_release_199399_signed.exe)
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What region of the world are you in? I would recommend the HTC WWE 2.30.405.1.
tpbklake said:
What region of the world are you in? I would recommend the HTC WWE 2.30.405.1.
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Belgium (Brussels), western Europe. I bought the device here so it should be pretty local... I'll try that one. What does the WWE mean? (Just for the info)
gladii said:
Belgium (Brussels), western Europe. I bought the device here so it should be pretty local... I'll try that one. What does the WWE mean? (Just for the info)
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World Wide English with support for most European languages
gladii said:
Belgium (Brussels), western Europe. I bought the device here so it should be pretty local... I'll try that one. What does the WWE mean? (Just for the info)
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Ah, perfect! Canceled my download, but there's a 20 minute interval before starting a new one, so it'll take me at least an hour to download it.
I've encountered this issue before, but randomness seemed to solve it back then: a fastboot command just displays "<waiting for device>" and then keeps hanging there. "fastboot devices" returns an empty line, so that's consistent. Phone is in fastboot USB mode, so I'm not sure what could be the issue?
And then I have a question. In that guide, it says that I should extract HBOOT.img from the rom I installed. In my case, my rom only contains a file named "hboot_1.13.0000_CRC_8a731c6e_0401.img" (along with others of course, but I assume they are redundant in this step); will that one do?
gladii said:
I've encountered this issue before, but randomness seemed to solve it back then: a fastboot command just displays "<waiting for device>" and then keeps hanging there. "fastboot devices" returns an empty line, so that's consistent. Phone is in fastboot USB mode, so I'm not sure what could be the issue?
And then I have a question. In that guide, it says that I should extract HBOOT.img from the rom I installed. In my case, my rom only contains a file named "hboot_1.13.0000_CRC_8a731c6e_0401.img" (along with others of course, but I assume they are redundant in this step); will that one do?
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Sounds like it may be a port issue, cable issue or driver issue on the PC.
Have you tried different ports or a different cable? Do you have HTC Sync running in the System Tray on the PC?
As for the hboot file, yes that is the one.
gladii said:
And then I have a question. In that guide, it says that I should extract HBOOT.img from the rom I installed. In my case, my rom only contains a file named "hboot_1.13.0000_CRC_8a731c6e_0401.img" (along with others of course, but I assume they are redundant in this step); will that one do?
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I thought you wanted to go to stock ICS? Hboot 1.13 it a gingerbread hboot. If you just flash the vivo_downgrade.img then run the ruu, there will be no need to extract and flash the hboot from the ruu.
Nonverbose said:
I thought you wanted to go to stock ICS? Hboot 1.13 it a gingerbread hboot. If you just flash the vivo_downgrade.img then run the ruu, there will be no need to extract and flash the hboot from the ruu.
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No I wanted it back the way I wanted it. Rom, recovery,... all stock. But surely I'll give ICS a testdrive via OTA
Hi,
I had my phone replace the camera because of the purple-tint problem, HTC upgraded my phone to HBoot 1.54 and android 4.2.2 without informing me . Anyway.
After receiving my phone, I unlocked my phone again by the official method, then I wanted to make a clean backup of my rom, so I tried to boot my phone to third party recovery image by "fastboot boot some_CWM.img", my phone just hung there. I was frustrated, if I flash the CWM.img to the phone, would I brick my phone? Before the upgrade, my phone could be booted in the same CWM image file, can I use third party CWM after upgrade my HBoot to 1.54?
Any idea? please
Since you have HBOOT 1.54, you cannot boot into recovery using fastboot anymore, you have to flash the recovery and then backup the ROM.
You flash the recovery by "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img"
I also recommend TWRP, its so much easier to use and if you cant find it ill attach it here if you want!
EDIT: **** This will replace your stock recovery by CWM or TWRP ****
HTC One 1.54 bootloader, flash recovery.
Hey guys, new member, and thanks for the extensive information provided on the forum!
I have a related question to what the OP posted...possibly pertinent info about the phone itself:
I have an HTC One with 1.54 bootloader, it used to be a 4.1.2 with 1.44 bootloader AT&T device, which I rooted, S-OFF, CWM etc. I then realized I couldn't take OTA updates and was stuck either on 4.1.2 or a custom ROM, so I downloaded a 4.4 stock google edition RUU and installed it. Everything is good so far, but I cannot do a full backup anymore because it has the stock recovery.
My question is, can I just flash the CWM recovery, backup the phone, and flash back the stock recovery? My goal is to get best of both worlds, get OTA updates from google as well as do a full back-up of my phone.
Please advise, and thanks in advance for your input!
PS: Since the 4.4 RUU update, my phone still says "unlocked" and "S-OFF", if that matters at all.
Krish_1 said:
Hey guys, new member, and thanks for the extensive information provided on the forum!
I have a related question to what the OP posted...possibly pertinent info about the phone itself:
I have an HTC One with 1.54 bootloader, it used to be a 4.1.2 with 1.44 bootloader AT&T device, which I rooted, S-OFF, CWM etc. I then realized I couldn't take OTA updates and was stuck either on 4.1.2 or a custom ROM, so I downloaded a 4.4 stock google edition RUU and installed it. Everything is good so far, but I cannot do a full backup anymore because it has the stock recovery.
My question is, can I just flash the CWM recovery, backup the phone, and flash back the stock recovery? My goal is to get best of both worlds, get OTA updates from google as well as do a full back-up of my phone.
Please advise, and thanks in advance for your input!
PS: Since the 4.4 RUU update, my phone still says "unlocked" and "S-OFF", if that matters at all.
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Sure you can but the stock recovery is only needed for OTA and they don't come that often.
and your phone has to be stock with stock recovery (no apps removed).
most people just ruu back to stock for the ota... not run custom recovery just long enough to backup.
Thanks for the quick response! I think what you're saying makes sense, though I don't have a stock AT&T RUU. I'm guessing I can download it with similar firmware so I can switch as needed. Thanks again!
Krish_1 said:
Thanks for the quick response! I think what you're saying makes sense, though I don't have a stock AT&T RUU. I'm guessing I can download it with similar firmware so I can switch as needed. Thanks again!
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here's all the ruu's you should ever need
http://www.htc1guru.com/downloads
Awesome, thanks again!
I looked around the site before posting this, didn't find anything specific. I have a Nandroid backup of the stock phone before I started messing with it. If I do a recovery of that image using CWM, is it the same as downloading and flashing one of the stock RUUs? I'm guessing not, but would like to know for sure. Is the difference that RUUs have firmware, radio etc, while a Nandroid backup is of the OS and SD card?
Krish_1 said:
Awesome, thanks again!
I looked around the site before posting this, didn't find anything specific. I have a Nandroid backup of the stock phone before I started messing with it. If I do a recovery of that image using CWM, is it the same as downloading and flashing one of the stock RUUs? I'm guessing not, but would like to know for sure. Is the difference that RUUs have firmware, radio etc, while a Nandroid backup is of the OS and SD card?
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well for one thing when you unlock the booloader it deletes some system files when it wipes the phone.. so your stock backup is already flawed (not true stock). and like i said to take OTA you must have a complete Stock phone. the only real Stock phone comes from RUU. I hope this clears it up for you. And no your sdcard is not backed up in the Nandroid
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well for one thing when you unlock the booloader it deletes some system files when it wipes the phone.. so your stock backup is already flawed (not true stock). and like i said to take OTA you must have a complete Stock phone. the only real Stock phone comes from RUU. I hope this clears it up for you. And no your sdcard is not backed up in the Nandroid
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Makes perfect sense, thanks again for the super quick responses!
Hi guys, sorry in advance for digging up an old thread!
I have an AT&T HTC One, installed the Google Edition 4.4.2 with this group's help, rooted etc.
I received an OTA update from google today (4.4.3), and while I tried installing it, it crashes with a "SET_METADATA_RECURSIVE" something failed etc. I tried it with both the recovery.img that I have from the Google Edition ROM as well as the CWM recovery.
I've searched for stuff in the forum and the only thing I found is that I may need the latest version of clockworkmod, but I think I already do...I have 6.0.4.3, which is the HTC One AT&T one. Also, since I installed the Google Edition ROM, I haven't removed or uninstalled any system apps..so my phone is pretty stock as far as Google is concerned.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks!
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I figured it out...I had to get the recovery.img from the 4.4.2 RUU, fastboot flash the bugger into my phone (CWK didn't work), and I was able to download and install the 4.4.3 with no issues. Pissed away a few hrs trying different things, hopefully this update is worth it!!!
Krish_1 said:
Hi guys, sorry in advance for digging up an old thread!
I have an AT&T HTC One, installed the Google Edition 4.4.2 with this group's help, rooted etc.
I received an OTA update from google today (4.4.3), and while I tried installing it, it crashes with a "SET_METADATA_RECURSIVE" something failed etc. I tried it with both the recovery.img that I have from the Google Edition ROM as well as the CWM recovery.
I've searched for stuff in the forum and the only thing I found is that I may need the latest version of clockworkmod, but I think I already do...I have 6.0.4.3, which is the HTC One AT&T one. Also, since I installed the Google Edition ROM, I haven't removed or uninstalled any system apps..so my phone is pretty stock as far as Google is concerned.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks!
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Firstly, thank you for reading this post. I appreciate that there are a number of posts already covering a lot of what I will be asking (I have already checked and Googled) but in much the same way you end up watching a video of a cat rescuing a child from Narnia on YouTube when you originally started with videos about the political stability in the Middle East, the tedious link between start and finish is now well and truly blurred!
With the above in mind, the aim of this post is to try and collate answers to my questions in one place. I will try and be as clear as possible.
It is also worth mentioning I am not completely new to this. I previously owned an HTC Sensation which I rooted myself (even used the paper clip technique) but the world of ROMs and “Framework” etc seems to be totally different to what is was a few years ago.
I suppose I will start with the basics, the custom recovery.
I have used both CWM and 4EXT in the past and am wondering which is favourable for the HTC One? A lot of posts I have read use CWM but an advantage I found with 4EXT was the ability to flash Kernels without having to go through the whole Super CID route I had to with my Sensation. Am I concerned about an issue that no longer exists or are the benefits of using 4EXT still relevant for the HTC One?
Secondly….and sort of thirdly, kernels and ROMs. Obviously I am wanting to OC the HTC One and I have found a number of kernels which allow this. I have also found a number of custom ROMS which include kernels that allow for over clocking….fine, except the “thirdly” part of this question is the difference between custom ROMs and the “Xposed” framework I have been reading about.
If I flash a custom ROM will Xposed still work or is it a case of one or the other?
To me, it seems the Xposed framework is the preferred option by a number of people for the very detailed level of customisable options it provides without (almost) any of the unwanted parts.
I appreciate the above might be a bit tongue tied so here is a simpler way of what I am asking:
• Custom ROM + Kernel + Xposed – Possible? And or necessary?
• Kernel + Xposed – Possible?
• Custom ROM + Kernel – I know this is possible.
Now, if the first bullet point is possible, I would like to know of a few 4.3 ROMs I can use. Please remember I am on the international UK version. A number of posts have US 4.3 ROMs but every time I look for international compatible ROMs it only ever states 4.2.2.
Is there a 4.3 ROM available for the UK HTC SIM Free One?
Note* The ROMs do not have to include kernels, I can find a compatible one easy enough.
Lastly, S-OFF.
If the original question about recovery images is negative, do I have to S-Off the device and S-CID etc?
If you got this far, thanks for reading and hopefully you can make things a little clearer than mud!
First thing I'd do is check the HBOOT on the phone as if you're on 1.44 I'd S-OFF it NOW! Even if you never do anything else it gives you the option in future
I'd then just use the phone as normal as this is the first phone I've not had to root...
If you DO want to go down the rooting route, then I'd look at Android Revolution HD which is currently running the latest leaked build for the EU handsets and works 100% fine on the unbranded EU/UK handset
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First thing I'd do is check the HBOOT on the phone as if you're on 1.44 I'd S-OFF it NOW! Even if you never do anything else it gives you the option in future
I'd then just use the phone as normal as this is the first phone I've not had to root...
If you DO want to go down the rooting route, then I'd look at Android Revolution HD which is currently running the latest leaked build for the EU handsets and works 100% fine on the unbranded EU/UK handset
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Thanks Eddy,
I would like to go down the rooting path due to the OC and customisable options.
I will check the HBOOT though when I get it in a few days....
Thanks.
Anyone else with any other comments on OP?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
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Thanks for the link.
I did already find this and have it saved as a point of reference for when I figure out what I need to do.
I think my questions above still require guidance though as I am already aware updating firmware will require S-Off and S-CID but when I rooted my second Sensation, 4EXT allowed for the flashing of certain things without the requirement to S-OFF or S-CID (paper clip trick).
Furthermore, this doesnt touch on the ROM vs Xposed query but as mentioned, thanks for the link.
WOW long post
ssjghost said:
Lastly, S-OFF.
If the original question about recovery images is negative, do I have to S-Off the device and S-CID etc?
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Actually, this should be firstly, S-Off if you can (at the moment that's only for hboot 1.44 pre June 2013, or using a JavaCard); use vomer's guide posted above.
Things have changed since Sensation, S-Off is good to change CID (IF needed), but a must for flashing unsigned firmware. (not to mention running a downgrade RUU)
However, even with S-On, you can still flash custom ROM, kernel, recovery, and even radio, using HTCdev to get an unlock token for your phone.
ssjghost said:
I suppose I will start with the basics, the custom recovery.
I have used both CWM and 4EXT in the past and am wondering which is favourable for the HTC One? A lot of posts I have read use CWM but an advantage I found with 4EXT was the ability to flash Kernels without having to go through the whole Super CID route I had to with my Sensation. Am I concerned about an issue that no longer exists or are the benefits of using 4EXT still relevant for the HTC One?
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You'll need to use either CWM or TWRP, I believe 4EXT is not (yet) compatible with HTC One M7. As mentioned above both these recoveries are able to flash ROM, kernel and radio. S-Off and SuperCID not needed. Download those from the threads in xda, not the official web site as the ones in the thread are more up to date.
ssjghost said:
• Custom ROM + Kernel + Xposed – Possible? And or necessary?
• Kernel + Xposed – Possible?
• Custom ROM + Kernel – I know this is possible.
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All three possible. :good::good:
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Now, if the first bullet point is possible, I would like to know of a few 4.3 ROMs I can use. Please remember I am on the international UK version. A number of posts have US 4.3 ROMs but every time I look for international compatible ROMs it only ever states 4.2.2.
Is there a 4.3 ROM available for the UK HTC SIM Free One?
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I can't say for all ROMs, but many of them are/were based on the US Developer edition, which was one of the first to receive 4.3, but were recoded to be WWE editions, that would work for UK.
Just remember to stay away from Sprint and Verizon editions, as these are completely different.
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Note* The ROMs do not have to include kernels, I can find a compatible one easy enough.
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The ROMs do include a kernel, but you can flash any other kernel after having flashed the ROM; so by extension every time you flash a ROM, you would need to reflash your custom kernel (making sure it's compatible with the ROM base obviously).
Hope that helps out a little, and remember to hit the thanks button for all that helped
nkk71 said:
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Actually, this should be firstly, S-Off if you can (at the moment that's only for hboot 1.44 pre June 2013, or using a JavaCard); use vomer's guide posted above.
Things have changed since Sensation, S-Off is good to change CID (IF needed), but a must for flashing unsigned firmware. (not to mention running a downgrade RUU)
However, even with S-On, you can still flash custom ROM, kernel, recovery, and even radio, using HTCdev to get an unlock token for your phone.
You'll need to use either CWM or TWRP, I believe 4EXT is not (yet) compatible with HTC One M7. As mentioned above both these recoveries are able to flash ROM, kernel and radio. S-Off and SuperCID not needed. Download those from the threads in xda, not the official web site as the ones in the thread are more up to date.
All three possible. :good::good:
I can't say for all ROMs, but many of them are/were based on the US Developer edition, which was one of the first to receive 4.3, but were recoded to be WWE editions, that would work for UK.
Just remember to stay away from Sprint and Verizon editions, as these are completely different.
The ROMs do include a kernel, but you can flash any other kernel after having flashed the ROM; so by extension every time you flash a ROM, you would need to reflash your custom kernel (making sure it's compatible with the ROM base obviously).
Hope that helps out a little, and remember to hit the thanks button for all that helped
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Perfect! Thats the answer I was "rooting" for.......
Although, your detailed answer has prompted another question.
Given that I can flash ROMS, Xposed and kernels without the need to S-Off or Super CID and the only benefit to S-Off and S-CID is the ability to flash new firmware and radios, this begs the question, for the not so hard core rooting user, do I even need to?
Agreed the posts say to S-Off straight away so I will heed this advice but in honesty, am I required to?
Am I likely to encounter any problems by flashing 4.3 ROMs without upgrading to the latest firmware?
S-OFF gives you a 'get out of jail' option should you ever need it as you can flash an RUU to return the phone to stock. What software build are you running on at present?
It's always best to match firmware to the ROM
EddyOS said:
S-OFF gives you a 'get out of jail' option should you ever need it as you can flash an RUU to return the phone to stock. What software build are you running on at present?
It's always best to match firmware to the ROM
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Sorry, excuse my ignorance.
When you say "software build" do you mean firmware version or android build? Or something else completely!?
ssjghost said:
Perfect! Thats the answer I was "rooting" for.......
Although, your detailed answer has prompted another question.
Given that I can flash ROMS, Xposed and kernels without the need to S-Off or Super CID and the only benefit to S-Off and S-CID is the ability to flash new firmware and radios, this begs the question, for the not so hard core rooting user, do I even need to?
Agreed the posts say to S-Off straight away so I will heed this advice but in honesty, am I required to?
Am I likely to encounter any problems by flashing 4.3 ROMs without upgrading to the latest firmware?
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SuperCID is not needed anyway (I believe) for flashing unsigned firmware, S-Off should suffice. On the other hand, finding signed firmware, is quite difficult, I haven't seen but a few around (and pretty old). You could still receive them using OTAs, but that would force you to flash stock ROM, stock recovery, and maybe even relock the bootloader, then having to go through the bootloader unlocking procedure again (which also wipes your phone completely, including sdcard/internal storage)
That bring one thing to mind, the first thing you should do once you install a custom recovery, is do a complete nandroid backup of your phone, should you need to get back to it at some later point in time (including for example, receiving OTAs)
As for "needing" to upgrade firmware, there are people still running 1.xx firmware (from Android 4.1.2) with 4.3 ROMs. Everything from 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 was pretty much OK with any firmware.
However, I've recently read a few posts on ARHD, where some issues (on ARHD 30.0) were actually only resolved with an update to the latest firmware. I cannot confirm these were actually issues due to different firmware and base versions, but it may very well be case.
If you are able to achieve s-off (I personally did it with revone, as it doesn't use a custom hboot, just get's rid of the security ON), I highly recommend it. Even if you never need it, having it is better as it will allow you to downgrade/upgrade, etc.etc.
One last thing, when you use HTCdev to unlock your bootloader and flash custom stuff, the bootloader will show "UNLOCKED" and "TAMPERED", even if you lock it again, it will only show as "RELOCKED", whereas with revone, you can remove the "TAMPERED" sign, and even return it to "LOCKED".
PS: Since you're in the UK, at worst, you can use the FunFoneShop (or whatever they're called), because they have JavaCards which can achieve S-Off even for 1.54 hboot (I think they charge something like 20 or 30 pounds, if I'm not mistaken)
Also, some people are saying that s-off for 1.54 "is around the corner" (by beaups), but can't confirm that either.
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Sorry, excuse my ignorance.
When you say "software build" do you mean firmware version or android build? Or something else completely!?
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Software build is the HTC version, ie ARHD 30.0 is "latest official HTC One 3.57.401.500 - Android 4.3", and firmware would be the firmware in that release. You can use different firmware version with different base version, but it's always best (if you can) to have both the same.
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Sorry, excuse my ignorance.
When you say "software build" do you mean firmware version or android build? Or something else completely!?
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As in the build shown in Settings>About phone>Software information, e.g. 2.24.401.8
nkk71 said:
SuperCID is not needed anyway (I believe) for flashing unsigned firmware, S-Off should suffice. On the other hand, finding signed firmware, is quite difficult, I haven't seen but a few around (and pretty old). You could still receive them using OTAs, but that would force you to flash stock ROM, stock recovery, and maybe even relock the bootloader, then having to go through the bootloader unlocking procedure again (which also wipes your phone completely, including sdcard/internal storage)
That bring one thing to mind, the first thing you should do once you install a custom recovery, is do a complete nandroid backup of your phone, should you need to get back to it at some later point in time (including for example, receiving OTAs)
As for "needing" to upgrade firmware, there are people still running 1.xx firmware (from Android 4.1.2) with 4.3 ROMs. Everything from 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 was pretty much OK with any firmware.
However, I've recently read a few posts on ARHD, where some issues (on ARHD 30.0) were actually only resolved with an update to the latest firmware. I cannot confirm these were actually issues due to different firmware and base versions, but it may very well be case.
If you are able to achieve s-off (I personally did it with revone, as it doesn't use a custom hboot, just get's rid of the security ON), I highly recommend it. Even if you never need it, having it is better as it will allow you to downgrade/upgrade, etc.etc.
One last thing, when you use HTCdev to unlock your bootloader and flash custom stuff, the bootloader will show "UNLOCKED" and "TAMPERED", even if you lock it again, it will only show as "RELOCKED", whereas with revone, you can remove the "TAMPERED" sign, and even return it to "LOCKED".
PS: Since you're in the UK, at worst, you can use the FunFoneShop (or whatever they're called), because they have JavaCards which can achieve S-Off even for 1.54 hboot (I think they charge something like 20 or 30 pounds, if I'm not mistaken)
Also, some people are saying that s-off for 1.54 "is around the corner" (by beaups), but can't confirm that either.
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Software build is the HTC version, ie ARHD 30.0 is "latest official HTC One 3.57.401.500 - Android 4.3", and firmware would be the firmware in that release. You can use different firmware version with different base version, but it's always best (if you can) to have both the same.
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OK, so asuming I will be flashing a 4.3 ROM or 4.2.2 at the latest, my software version will be 3.57.401.500?
Therefore find the appropriate firmware for this software build?
The build is linked to the ROM you flash. ARHD is currently based on the recent 3.57.401.500 leak which is Android 4.3 and you'd ideally need the FW to match it but you have to be S-OFF to flash the FW
Going back to my previous question, what build are you currently on? It's more to direct you for backups/recovery options more than anything as before you jump head long into the rooting world it's ALWAYS the best to know how to revert to stock if required
EddyOS said:
As in the build shown in Settings>About phone>Software information, e.g. 2.24.401.8
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Just to confirm, I am yet to obtain the phone.
Once I have it I and I have flashed a 4.3 ROM, I asume I will need to find the compantable firmware and also flash this.
ssjghost said:
Just to confirm, I am yet to obtain the phone.
Once I have it I and I have flashed a 4.3 ROM, I asume I will need to find the compantable firmware and also flash this.
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Recommended YES, needed not always necessary. (and you need s-off for that)
Firmware can be found in @vomer's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506 (in section 2)
EddyOS said:
The build is linked to the ROM you flash. ARHD is currently based on the recent 3.57.401.500 leak which is Android 4.3 and you'd ideally need the FW to match it but you have to be S-OFF to flash the FW
Going back to my previous question, what build are you currently on? It's more to direct you for backups/recovery options more than anything as before you jump head long into the rooting world it's ALWAYS the best to know how to revert to stock if required
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Gotcha,
So, what's needed is:
Root device
Install Custom Recovery
S-Off and S-CID
Flash Custom Rom
Find and Flash matching FW to ROM
Flash GApps
Flash Xposed Framework
Excluding the obligatory back-ups along the way....Happy days?
ssjghost said:
Gotcha,
So, what's needed is:
Root device
Install Custom Recovery
S-Off and S-CID
Flash Custom Rom
Find and Flash matching FW to ROM
Flash GApps
Flash Xposed Framework
Excluding the obligatory back-ups along the way....Happy days?
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No. First thing is:
1. Find build version
2. Find RUU for backup purposes and download if available for your build
3. S-OFF (if possible) and unlock bootloader at the same time
4. Flash custom recovery (through fastboot)
5. Backup current ROM
6. Flash new ROM
7. Flash GAPPs (only if using CyanogenMod/AOSP - they're included in Sense-based ROMs)
8. Flash FW (through fastboot, not recovery)
9. Do anything else you want
ssjghost said:
Gotcha,
So, what's needed is:
Root device
Install Custom Recovery
S-Off and S-CID
Flash Custom Rom
Find and Flash matching FW to ROM
Flash GApps
Flash Xposed Framework
Excluding the obligatory back-ups along the way....Happy days?
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If you get it with hboot 1.44 (pre June 2013), you can first S-Off and unlock bootloader without using HTCdev.
EddyOS said:
No. First thing is:
1. Find build version
2. Find RUU for backup purposes and download if available for your build
3. S-OFF (if possible) and unlock bootloader at the same time
4. Flash custom recovery (through fastboot)
5. Backup current ROM
6. Flash new ROM
7. Flash GAPPs (only if using CyanogenMod/AOSP - they're included in Sense-based ROMs)
8. Flash FW (through fastboot, not recovery)
9. Do anything else you want
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Thanks, and thanks eveyone else. You can probably see from the number of posts Ive made I try and find out stuff before posting so its appreciated not getting flammed when I do!
Thanks for all your help with this and no doubt youll hear from me again when I follow the step by step guides "to the letter" and end up on boot-loop!
Didn't think it would take long before I posted again.
Spent the evening trawling the forum and the CM page but cant seem to find a CM ROM for the international M7? Even a link to the CM site from another site returned a page on CM website but no files? Am I mistaken? Example: http://www.get.cm/?device=m7&type=
So...after yet more searching Im guessing the Pac-Man ROM here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348415 and kernel here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301543 are compatible although it doesn't look like the kernel allows for middle HTC button to become menu. Does anyone know where I can find the firmware?
IGNORE HERE: PRE EDIT - If not, then can anyone advise a lightweight,non-sense ROM (offering 4.2.2 or 4.3), a compatible overclocking and HTC menu button converting kernel and the applicable firmware?
Hi.
I should start by saying that I am completely new to rooting phones. I think it's fair to say that I am in over my head!
I am attempting to return my HTC One M7 back to stock. I have relocked to bootloader but am unable to find a RRU that is compatible with my device. I basically want my phone as it was (able to receive official OTA's etc). My phone is S-on and hasnt been S-off. I'm not confident enough to go S-off.
My phones details are shown in the attached photo. My CID is ORANG001 (UK EE).
I have been through the extensive list but none are compatible with my device.
Any assistance offered would be appreciated. Remember - speak slowly!
Thanks.
IchiKiriyama said:
Hi.
I should start by saying that I am completely new to rooting phones. I think it's fair to say that I am in over my head!
I am attempting to return my HTC One M7 back to stock. I have relocked to bootloader but am unable to find a RRU that is compatible with my device. I basically want my phone as it was (able to receive official OTA's etc). My phone is S-on and hasnt been S-off. I'm not confident enough to go S-off.
My phones details are shown in the attached photo. My CID is ORANG001 (UK EE).
I have been through the extensive list but none are compatible with my device.
Any assistance offered would be appreciated. Remember - speak slowly!
Thanks.
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Restore you stock backup .. their is no files available for your phone
Thanks.
How would I go about that?
IchiKiriyama said:
Thanks.
How would I go about that?
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do you have custom recovery ?
IchiKiriyama said:
Thanks.
How would I go about that?
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just on a side note, please tell us you DIDNT re-lock your bootloader with a cutom recovery on your phone like TWRP or CWM ?
sorry to butt in @clsA just had to ask as I wouldnt know what to do for him if there is no files availble.
I had attempted to install a custom rom but the installation failed and it factory reset my phone. Basically, I appear to be using my stock RUU but ota is appears to be disabled. I attempted to install this rom, followed these instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2189373
IchiKiriyama said:
I had attempted to install a custom rom but the installation failed and it factory reset my phone. Basically, I appear to be using my stock RUU but ota is appears to be disabled. I attempted to install this rom, followed these instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2189373
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Ok that's fine
you need to unlock the bootloader now at htcdev.com so you can flash the correct recovery to you phone
download TWRP 2.8.5.0 here > http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/m7
flash it
fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.8.5.0-m7.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot reboot-bootloader
enter recovery and copy your rom to your phone again and install it again
no need to wipe again / theirs no RUU for your phone so no need to relock the bootloader any more
Very helpful. Thanks.
I'm sorry to cause further frustration, but could you give me simpler instructions? I don't want to make my situation any worse!
As I said above, I'm in way over my head.
IchiKiriyama said:
Very helpful. Thanks.
I'm sorry to cause further frustration, but could you give me simpler instructions? I don't want to make my situation any worse!
As I said above, I'm in way over my head.
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Humm that's as simple as it gets
go to http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader
follow the instructions to unlock the bootloader
when it's done download TWRP 2.8.5.0 and Flash it same as you did the unlock token above, in a command prompt from the folder with fastboot in it.
when you get to the TWRP recovery screen copy your rom to the phones storage and then click install it in TWRP
choose your file you just copied and let it install
the first reboot to lollipop will take a long time ...be patient
actually your not on 7.x firmware .. you need to flash an older rom
Use this one >> https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=22071
it matches your firmware better
Thanks. And that'll return my phone to stock?
I'm overwhelmed by all the shop speak regarding the android OS. Everything's an acronym, and everything sounds vaguely similar to everything else. Stock recovery, stock rom, stock firmware, factory reset, I'm a computer literate person, and I don't know what the difference is between any of these things, I only know that they're serious.
So here's my situation:
I have a Sprint HTC One M8, unlocked with s-off.
I have adb installed on my PC, TWRP and Super SU installed on my phone,
I need to install system updates, first to install KitKat 4.4.4, then immediately after, Lollipop.
When I go to install
my phone boots into TWRP mode
I go to update
select the update zip
swipe to flash
and get "updating partition details... failed"
I gather that I'm supposed to first restore to a stock recovery, and I think I found the correct one here, but the instructions I'm finding are very convoluted. I need to either unlock or lock my bootloader using adb. I need to flash one of the downloads on that page, but I'm not certain which one, how to flash it.
I understand that this isn't a forum for newbies, but that's just the thing, I'm not usually lost when it comes to this stuff, which makes me think many others are probablylost as well.
Can anyone clearly explain the steps I need to take, with a minimum of acronyms, to do whatever you do with a stock recovery to then be able to install Sprint updates?
I posted this question in a different way back in November and had one member keep posting unhelpful answers until the whole thread got hijacked by piggyback questions. I've also found step by step guides that each conflict with one another. One may have 5 steps and the other may have 12, and in one way or another they've always gone off the rails until they no longer seemed to apply to my use case.
If you can help, thank you.
Dr.Zee said:
I'm completely overwhelmed by all the shop speak regarding the android OS. Everything's an acronym, and everything sounds vaguely similar to everything else. Stock recovery, stock rom, stock firmware, factory reset, I don't know what the difference is between any of these things, I only know that they're serious.
So here's my situation:
I have a Sprint HTC One M8, unlocked with s-off.
I have adb installed on my PC, TWRP and Super SU installed on my phone,
I need to install system updates, first to install KitKat 4.4.4, then immediately after, Lollipop.
When I go to install
my phone boots into TWRP mode
I go to update
select the update zip
swipe to flash
and get "updating partition details... failed"
I gather that I'm supposed to first restore to a stock recovery, and I think I found the correct one here, but the instructions I'm finding are very convoluted. I need to either unlock or lock my bootloader using adb. I need to flash one of the downloads on that page, but I'm not certain which one, how to flash it.
I understand that this isn't a forum for newbies, but that's just the thing, I'm not usually lost when it comes to this stuff, which makes me think many others are probablylost as well.
Can anyone clearly explain the steps I need to take, with a minimum of acronyms, to do whatever you do with a stock recovery to then be able to install Sprint updates?
I posted this question in a different way back in November and had one member keep posting unhelpful answers until the whole thread got hijacked by piggyback questions.
If you can help, thank you.
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First things first, this is a forum for all kinds but there is a Q&A section.
On to the update.
The first thing you need to do is boot to fastboot and type "fastboot oem lock" without quotes and press enter.
The device should be locked and from there you should be able to run the RUU (ROM update utility) that comes directly from htc, no need to do the incremental updates from KK (kitkat) to LP (Lollipop) unless you are looking to do something specific on a certain radio or firmware.
No need to flash stock recovery if you run the RUU, only lock the bootloader.
The RUU files are found on the HTC website or in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729173 and you should find the directions there, just follow the S-on procedure if you are S-ON, you would know because at this point the only way to obtain S_OFF is to pay 25$ to use the Sunshine app.
This might be able to be moved to the Q&A by a mod and there are plenty of users and devs around here willing to help, just ask questions and try to follow the directions first.
dopy25 said:
First things first, this is a forum for all kinds but there is a Q&A section.
On to the update.
The first thing you need to do is boot to fastboot and type "fastboot oem lock" without quotes and press enter.
The device should be locked and from there you should be able to run the RUU (ROM update utility) that comes directly from htc, no need to do the incremental updates from KK (kitkat) to LP (Lollipop) unless you are looking to do something specific on a certain radio or firmware.
The RUU files are found on the HTC website or in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729173 and you should find the directions there, just follow the S-on procedure if you are S-ON, you would know because at this point the only way to obtain S_OFF is to pay 25$ to use the Sunshine app.
This might be able to be moved to the Q&A by a mod and there are plenty of users and devs around here willing to help, just ask questions and try to follow the directions first.
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Thank you very much, I'll run through these steps.
Question, I installed a couple firmware patches after I got s-off. when this is finished, will those be overwritten? Will my phone still be s-off, or would I have to pay to have that done again?
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Thank you very much, I'll run through these steps.
Question, I installed a couple firmware patches after I got s-off. when this is finished, will those be overwritten? Will my phone still be s-off, or would I have to pay to have that done again?
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So you are S-OFF, OK.
No, the S_OFF is tracked by the device I believe, and would still be able to be used without having to pay again. I have read that many places.
I would not do the full RUU if you are s-off, but the thread I linked has zips to flash firmwares and roms and keep S_OFF. I am still on so I have no experience with S-OFF but I would not lock the bootloader until another s-off user confirms.
dopy25 said:
So you are S-OFF, OK.
No, the S_OFF is tracked by the device I believe, and would still be able to be used without having to pay again. I have read that many places.
I would not do the full RUU if you are s-off, but the thread I linked has zips to flash firmwares and roms and keep S_OFF. I am still on so I have no experience with S-OFF but I would not lock the bootloader until another s-off user confirms.
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I got a little wreckless and just went ahead and tried it. Everything worked. I'm running Lollipop, I still have S-off, and I just re-rooted through the HTC dev program. The firmware patches I installed were overwritten, but, you can't have everything.
Thank you very much, I'd been dealing with system update messages for months.
Dr.Zee said:
I got a little wreckless and just went ahead and tried it. Everything worked. I'm running Lollipop, I still have S-off, and I just re-rooted through the HTC dev program. The firmware patches I installed were overwritten, but, you can't have everything.
Thank you very much, I'd been dealing with system update messages for months.
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What do you mean by patches? Just specific bits of firmware? I don't really know of any benefits to having specific bootloader or hboot or radio over another. It used to matter back in the day but I think it is best to have the most updated if you are going to run a newer ROM anyway.
Also, if you are S-OFF you can always downgrade any of them at any time. So if any of the patches you had before gave you any benefits you can always run them again.
Glad you got it taken care of. On any note, if you muck something up you can always run the RUU to get back to stock. HTC did us a huge favor with those.
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What do you mean by patches? Just specific bits of firmware? I don't really know of any benefits to having specific bootloader or hboot or radio over another. It used to matter back in the day but I think it is best to have the most updated if you are going to run a newer ROM anyway.
Also, if you are S-OFF you can always downgrade any of them at any time. So if any of the patches you had before gave you any benefits you can always run them again.
Glad you got it taken care of. On any note, if you muck something up you can always run the RUU to get back to stock. HTC did us a huge favor with those.
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It's a patch that adds Harmon Kardon sound. Then I incorrectly remembered an app that enables Snapdragon audio (which is far superior to HK sound) but that's not firmware, you just need a rooted phone to be able to drop it into the system folder.