[Q] S-Off Is it really needed? - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I recently got a HTC One and ive managed to unlock and root.
I've read quite a lot about S-Off, and im still undecided whether or not I actually need it!
Is it really necessary? benefits from using it at the moment?

Changing CID & MID/ superCID would be my only task after s-off.. You can then flash RUUs of other CID/MID, and also flash older RUUs.. You can also flash a custom hboot
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If you can, do it!
You can return stock and you can downgrade your hboot and much more!
Do it, do it, do it if you have the 1.44 hboot

If you could s-off, do it. If you can't who cares? S-off is overrated in my book.
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Absolutely you should do it if you can. I just found out yesterday that my phone may go in for warranty or I might have to downgrade firmware. Thanks to s-off I can revert to stock. Do it!

There's no harm in doing it and it's a fairly simple task.
Follow the links in the tutorial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4BWxtjaamM

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[Q] How to downgrade HTC One Developer Edition (US) from firmware 1.29.1540.17 to 1.2

Hello,
I have been researching here to find a way to downgrade to a previous version of a firmware so that I can S-Off, and to no avail unsure how to do it myself using either use Moonshine or revone.
The reason I wish to do this is that I want to install Google Play edition and of course the necessary info to install it.
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EvilSpants said:
Hello,
I have been researching here to find a way to downgrade to a previous version of a firmware so that I can S-Off, and to no avail unsure how to do it myself using either use Moonshine or revone.
The reason I wish to do this is that I want to install Google Play edition and of course the necessary info to install it.
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If I'm not mistaken the ROM firmware is irrelevant as to if you can root or not, or get-S-OFF. The most important factor for S-OFF is the bootloader version. I haven't seen any threads about getting S-OFF on bootloader 1.54.
Reboot to your bootloader (turn device off, hold volume down and turn device on). Check your HBOOT version there. If it says 1.54, then the only possible solution is to search for an official HTC RUU with a lower HBOOT version. However I do not know if this will actually work.
RadiatorRXD said:
If I'm not mistaken the ROM firmware is irrelevant as to if you can root or not, or get-S-OFF. The most important factor for S-OFF is the bootloader version. I haven't seen any threads about getting S-OFF on bootloader 1.54.
Reboot to your bootloader (turn device off, hold volume down and turn device on). Check your HBOOT version there. If it says 1.54, then the only possible solution is to search for an official HTC RUU with a lower HBOOT version. However I do not know if this will actually work.
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Alright. Assuming that works, is there a way to reflash?
[Edit] Just checked my bootloader it says that I have 1.44. However I have tried both Revone and S-off with no success
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EvilSpants said:
Alright. Assuming that works, is there a way to reflash?
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Don't really know what you mean by reflash? Returning to the newer HBOOT (1.54)?
If that's the case, once you're S-OFF you can update the HBOOT to 1.54 and S-OFF will still be there. There are some threads in the development section about upgrading the HBOOT. I used these myself without issues.
As for the official RUU, this will probably be a Google search. I haven't seen a thread around with these files.
Keep in mind that flashing an original RUU will result in loss of root and custom recovery. You will need to re-root after flashing the RUU and reflash a custom recovery.
RadiatorRXD said:
Don't really know what you mean by reflash? Returning to the newer HBOOT (1.54)?
If that's the case, once you're S-OFF you can update the HBOOT to 1.54 and S-OFF will still be there. There are some threads in the development section about upgrading the HBOOT. I used these myself without issues.
As for the official RUU, this will probably be a Google search. I haven't seen a thread around with these files.
Keep in mind that flashing an original RUU will result in loss of root and custom recovery. You will need to re-root after flashing the RUU and reflash a custom recovery.
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A little bit off topic here but ..if I am s- off already and I were to use a stock ruu on my phone all that I will I loose is the recovery and root?... So after I run ruu my device will still be s-off ?
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NORCALkID said:
A little bit off topic here but ..if I am s- off already and I were to use a stock ruu on my phone all that I will I loose is the recovery and root?... So after I run ruu my device will still be s-off ?
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I think so yes, but I'm not 100% sure. You may find the answer, or ask the question in the hboot update threads or s-off threads. I haven't flashed a RUU myself in years.
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RadiatorRXD said:
Don't really know what you mean by reflash? Returning to the newer HBOOT (1.54)?
If that's the case, once you're S-OFF you can update the HBOOT to 1.54 and S-OFF will still be there. There are some threads in the development section about upgrading the HBOOT. I used these myself without issues.
As for the official RUU, this will probably be a Google search. I haven't seen a thread around with these files.
Keep in mind that flashing an original RUU will result in loss of root and custom recovery. You will need to re-root after flashing the RUU and reflash a custom recovery.
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What I mean to say is that once I have found one with an older HBoot, how do I go about flashing that so that I can do one of the two S-Off procedures?
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EvilSpants said:
What I mean to say is that once I have found one with an older HBoot, how do I go about flashing that so that I can do one of the two S-Off procedures?
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Ah ok. The RUU should be a windows executable. Just hook up the phone to computer, start the RUU and follow the on-screen instructions.
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RadiatorRXD said:
Ah ok. The RUU should be a windows executable. Just hook up the phone to computer, start the RUU and follow the on-screen instructions.
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I assume the RUUs can be pulled from HTCdev?
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EvilSpants said:
I assume the RUUs can be pulled from HTCdev?
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Here's an article about flashing a RUU: Flash RUU
It has a link to a website which contains several RUU files to download: HERE
RadiatorRXD said:
If I'm not mistaken the ROM firmware is irrelevant as to if you can root or not, or get-S-OFF. The most important factor for S-OFF is the bootloader version. I haven't seen any threads about getting S-OFF on bootloader 1.54.
Reboot to your bootloader (turn device off, hold volume down and turn device on). Check your HBOOT version there. If it says 1.54, then the only possible solution is to search for an official HTC RUU with a lower HBOOT version. However I do not know if this will actually work.
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I was s-off with stock unrooted locked 2.24.401.1 firmware (ruu'ed by repair center)and tried to use revone to unlock again but it would fail, then I downgraded to hboot 1.44 (I could still do this because I was s-off already) but revone would still fail, then I decided to properly downgrade to 1.28(or was that 29).401.?? with an ruu and was able to use revone again to unlock my bootloader, so hboot is not the only factor for revone to be succesful...
downgrading hboot and other system partitions, except kernel rom radio and recovery, is not possible if you are not s-off already....
RadiatorRXD said:
Ah ok. The RUU should be a windows executable. Just hook up the phone to computer, start the RUU and follow the on-screen instructions.
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My downgrade attempt failed with one of the executables. I am not sure what to try next.
EvilSpants said:
My downgrade attempt failed with one of the executables. I am not sure what to try next.
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I'm at a loss here, sorry.
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RadiatorRXD said:
I'm at a loss here, sorry.
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I should note that I did not retry, however I figure that if it fails the first time, then it wouldn't succeed a second?
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EvilSpants said:
I should note that I did not retry, however I figure that if it fails the first time, then it wouldn't succeed a second?
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You could always try a second time. Maybe also post a screenshot of the failure.
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RadiatorRXD said:
You could always try a second time. Maybe also post a screenshot of the failure.
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At this point I am looking at installing a custom recovery, though from what I am reading I may not be able to do that without S-OFF, so I am stuck if this is true.
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EvilSpants said:
At this point I am looking at installing a custom recovery, though from what I am reading I may not be able to do that without S-OFF, so I am stuck if this is true.
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S-OFF is not needed for root or custom recovery. You do need an unlocked bootloader though. On other devices S-OFF was needed to flash radio's or kernels through recovery, but from what I have read the One can flash kernels in recovery without S-OFF
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RadiatorRXD said:
S-OFF is not needed for root or custom recovery. You do need an unlocked bootloader though. On other devices S-OFF was needed to flash radio's or kernels through recovery, but from what I have read the One can flash kernels in recovery without S-OFF
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So I have gotten TWRP on there, however I have been unable to flash a previous firmware, to downgrade, getting the error message, Unable to open zip. My guess is that S-On is stopping this process even in a custom recovery. Is there a recommendation as to how I can achieve S-Off?
Also There is something I have been thinking about it, and if I were to follow the steps here, with execption of the flashing the RUU through fasboot, could I flash the RUU through TWRP instead?
[Edit] Could I install a custom ROM, S-Off through the ROM, then follow the steps in the link to flash the RUU?

HBOOT question

So I had an issue with a HTC One, but I got a replacement! I turned S-OFF, flashed the shipped ROM, locked the bootloader and turned S-ON.
Worked perfectly and looks like new!
Anyhow, during this, I found out that revone doesn't work with newer HBOOT versions.
I have a new HTC One and it has the compatible version of HBOOT so I am in luck.
I want to flash custom ROM's such as ARHD but I don't want to update the hboot.
Does a newer version of HBOOT come with ARHD, or is that something only OTA updates include? Does ARHD stick with older HBOOT?
If it does update hboot,
If I turn S-OFF right away, will I be protected in-case a new HBOOT comes through? Will I be able to flash an older HBOOT version in case I need to turn S-ON?
Is it safe to turn S-OFF right now, and just leave it off, just in the case if my hboot gets updated or something - I can always revert to an older version.
I would also like to say thank you for all of your posts! I am an old time iPhone user for 5 years and I'm glad I switched to Android. There is just so much more you can do.
Your posts really help, contributors! It helped me return my device to new status, without 'relocked' and 'tampered' flags in the bootloader!
So thumbs up to XDA! :good:
rowebil said:
So I had an issue with a HTC One, but I got a replacement! I turned S-OFF, flashed the shipped ROM, locked the bootloader and turned S-ON.
Worked perfectly and looks like new!
Anyhow, during this, I found out that revone doesn't work with newer HBOOT versions.
I have a new HTC One and it has the compatible version of HBOOT so I am in luck.
I want to flash custom ROM's such as ARHD but I don't want to update the hboot.
Does a newer version of HBOOT come with ARHD, or is that something only OTA updates include?
If I turn S-OFF, will I be protected in-case a new HBOOT comes through? Will I be able to flash an older HBOOT version?
I would also like to say thank you for all of your posts! I am an old time iPhone user for 5 years and I'm glad I switched to Android. There is just so much more you can do.
Your posts really help, contributors! It helped me return my device to new status, without 'relocked' and 'tampered' flags in the bootloader!
So thumbs up to XDA! :good:
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I have never update the hboot when using ARHD, I just gave it a flash.
As to updating via ota, the only thing close to that for me is when I did a gpe conversion to hboot 1.54 but I could go back.
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squabbi said:
I have never update the hboot when using ARHD, I just gave it a flash.
As to updating via ota, the only thing close to that for me is when I did a gpe conversion to hboot 1.54 but I could go back.
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It is just in the case that I need to do this replacement all over again. I don't want to update to another HBOOT accidentally through a ROM, and then find out I can't get S-OFF/S-ON and I'm stuck lol.
I can't get my words out too clear tonight! I'm not really sure as of why.
If I have S-OFF, and my HBOOT updates somehow, can I go back and flash another HBOOT?
Then another thought comes, I don't want to turn S-OFF because the thread says may not work with all ROM's, which is why I asked if ARHD will update my HBOOT.
Also, thanks for your AIO toolkit! I was looking for it earlier today. I used it when I bought my phone and worked great! Thanks for that!
rowebil said:
It is just in the case that I need to do this replacement all over again. I don't want to update to another HBOOT accidentally through a ROM, and then find out I can't get S-OFF/S-ON and I'm stuck lol.
I can't get my words out too clear tonight! I'm not really sure as of why.
If I have S-OFF, and my HBOOT updates somehow, can I go back and flash another HBOOT?
Then another thought comes, I don't want to turn S-OFF because the thread says may not work with all ROM's, which is why I asked if ARHD will update my HBOOT.
Also, thanks for your AIO toolkit! I was looking for it earlier today. I used it when I bought my phone and worked great! Thanks for that!
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If you want to go back to S-ON you should use an ruu to go back to stock then use the S-ON command.
I'm sure you can downgrade back to hboot 1.44 but some say you can't, but it worked for the Google edition conversion and I returned to 1.44.
I'm glad the toolkit worked for you!
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squabbi said:
If you want to go back to S-ON you should use an ruu to go back to stock then use the S-ON command.
I'm sure you can downgrade back to hboot 1.44 but some say you can't, but it worked for the Google edition conversion and I returned to 1.44.
I'm glad the toolkit worked for you!
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Ah okay, I didn't think about that!
So an RUU will also downgrade hboot?
I don't want to be stuck with a junk hboot that is locked down.
It is going to work for me again, when I unlock this new phone!
It's safe to go S-Off now and leave it off. hboot updates won't cause S-On
ARHD won't update your hboot.
If your hboot is updated, you must be already S-Off to downgrade.
You are on 1.44 right now. If you go s-off now, you will remain s-off even after accepting OTAs, and you can downgrade your hboot whenever you feel like. On the other hand, if you are s-on right now, and accept an OTA, you'll be upgraded to the locked down 1.54, on which you can't get s-off, nor can you downgrade.. What I suggest is going s-off right now, and doing whatever flashing you want to do.. Beware, with s-off, you can permanently brick(hard brick) your phone. If you ever want to go back to s-on, flash an RUU of ONLY 4.1.2. All roms work with s-off, so no need to worry
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rowebil said:
Ah okay, I didn't think about that!
So an RUU will also downgrade hboot?
I don't want to be stuck with a junk hboot that is locked down.
It is going to work for me again, when I unlock this new phone!
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An ruu should, but if you don't want to factory restore, you can just flash the ruu.
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HTC One: Revone, Moonshine, S-off

Hey,
I'm finding it really difficult to get a definitive answer on the following question. So I'm just going to ask: if my HTC One has been updated to 4.2.2 by my carrier, does this mean I cannot use moonshine or revone to turn S-off? I've been trying all morning and I've read that this might be the case? Which is a damn shame as I wanted stock android with those lovely OTA updates.
Cheers, Jav
JavLange said:
Hey,
I'm finding it really difficult to get a definitive answer on the following question. So I'm just going to ask: if my HTC One has been updated to 4.2.2 by my carrier, does this mean I cannot use moonshine or revone to turn S-off? I've been trying all morning and I've read that this might be the case? Which is a damn shame as I wanted stock android with those lovely OTA updates.
Cheers, Jav
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If you updated using OTA your bootloader would have been updated to 1.54 (you can check by going to bootloader. POWER + VOL DOWN)
and revone or moonshine will not work on 1.54.
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nkk71 said:
If you updated using OTA your bootloader would have been updated to 1.54 (you can check by going to bootloader. POWER + VOL DOWN)
and revone or moonshine will not work on 1.54.
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Ah - that's what I was thinking. So there isn't a way to "convert" my own to a Google Play Edition until a new way to turn S-off is found?
Thanks for your help - it's good to have clarity! =)
You can flash a GE rom based.
But you can't receive the OTA from htc
You need the s-off for the full convert to GE edition
JavLange said:
Ah - that's what I was thinking. So there isn't a way to "convert" my own to a Google Play Edition until a new way to turn S-off is found?
Thanks for your help - it's good to have clarity! =)
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What do you mean by convert? If you mean flashing different ROMs, then you can use HTCdev to unlock your bootloader, and flash different ROMs, Radios, and kernels.
It will show your bootloader as TAMPERED and and UNLOCKED / RELOCKED (ie never again simply LOCKED). And you will loose OTA capability unless u go back to stock ROM and recovery and relock.
You will also not be able to flash unsigned firmware.
If you do decide to unlock, make a nandroid backup of your stock ROM before flashing anything new, so that you can always go back to stock ROM for OTAs.
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nkk71 said:
What do you mean by convert? If you mean flashing different ROMs, then you can use HTCdev to unlock your bootloader, and flash different ROMs, Radios, and kernels.
It will show your bootloader as TAMPERED and and UNLOCKED / RELOCKED (ie never again simply LOCKED). And you will loose OTA capability unless u go back to stock ROM and recovery and relock.
You will also not be able to flash unsigned firmware.
If you do decide to unlock, make a nandroid backup of your stock ROM before flashing anything new, so that you can always go back to stock ROM for OTAs.
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He means this
The full convert to GE Phone.
Guich said:
He means this
The full convert to GE Phone.
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I do =)
So to make it all legit, I'd have to somehow revert my bootloader back to a version that supported turning S-off? I'm pretty sure that's beyond my feeble skills!
Never mind then - cheers all =)
Guich said:
He means this
The full convert to GE Phone.
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But he could still use a GPe ROM, right? He wouldn't get the black bootloader or GOOGL001 CID, but the custom GPe ROMs out there would give him GPe experience.
Or am I missing something?
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JavLange said:
I do =)
So to make it all legit, I'd have to somehow revert my bootloader back to a version that supported turning S-off? I'm pretty sure that's beyond my feeble skills!
Never mind then - cheers all =)
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You can't downgrade the hboot for acheive the s-off...
nkk71 said:
But he could still use a GPe ROM, right? He wouldn't get the black bootloader or GOOGL001 CID, but the custom GPe ROMs out there would give him GPe experience.
Or am I missing something?
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Yes, he can.
But if he will have the ota from htc/google of the ge he need the s-off
He can usa a GE based rom.
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Guich said:
You can't downgrade the hboot for acheive the s-off...
Yes, he can.
But if he will have the ota from htc/google of the ge he need the s-off
He can usa a GE based rom.
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Oh I see! So the best I can do is install the RUU from this and manually keep my phone up to date thereafter?
JavLange said:
Oh I see! So the best I can do is install the RUU from this and manually keep my phone up to date thereafter?
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Not an RUU, a custom ROM.
You would have to
1- unlock bootloader using HTCdev (will completely wipe your phone)
2- install custom recovery (CWM or TWRP)
3- make a nandroid backup of your stock ROM for the future
4- flash a GPe ROM from the development thread
That's it in a nutshell.
You will need your stock ROM and stock recovery later to get your official OTA, because that will be the only way to update your firmware. Everything else is pretty much covered in the custom ROMs out there.
I recommend reading the guides to familiarize yourself with the procedures.
I personally am on ARHD Sense 5 ROM, but there's also a GPe version, as well as others of course. Read a bit through these threads to get a "feeling" about them.
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[Q] What's all the fuss about S-OFF?

So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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Its not important at all
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With S-off you can flash everything you want on your phone . Downgrade is a most comun reason.
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Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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Some carriers are the only users option in their area.
Like for me, that carrier would be Verizon. They have great coverage.
But they also happen to be evil and had HTC block our HTC One's MID from being able to use the HTC Bootloader Unlock bin file.
It will fail the initial checks after getting the token from you.
We also have the 1.54 hboot as stock, so there is no using moonshine, or facepalm, or any other previous method as of yet.
So in order for poor folks with carriers that strongarm smaller companies like HTC into doing things against their wishes and our wishes,
S-off allows us to then change CID,MID, etc,...as well as then go and unlock the bootloader as we should be able to do by choice.
That's why they built it and added in a warranty void warning, so we could make that choice if we so choose.
Anyway, that should make it more clear to you now at least, sorry for the extra carrier rant, lol.
Plus the obvious other advantages of flashing radios, kernels, etc,...without doing fastboot.
Ah okay. So S-off does similar to the HTCDev unlock? If I used S-Off instead could I get rid of the ugly warning text on boot?
Htc dev unlock only needed partitions. S-off unlock ALL
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Stephen304 said:
Ah okay. So S-off does similar to the HTCDev unlock? If I used S-Off instead could I get rid of the ugly warning text on boot?
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Yes you could get ride of the warning text with s-off, with s-on you cannot.
Everything what's said above + more , for example if htc one windows version ever gets ported s-off users can have it , we can also convert our device into ge edition / dev edition / flash whatever comes thru your mind , even splash screens , use modified bootloaders , we can also unlock bootloader without need of HTC official unlock process , we can lock it as well ( s-on can only relock it ) we can also completely hide we ever were rooted / unlocked for warranty reasons while s-on can't.
We can also use super cid which allows us to flash any ruu or use any region / carrier roms.
We can also downgrade bootloader or flash any other.
That's mainly it , also for example us with s-off have writeable partitions while for example s-on users still don't on 3.22 base.
And at the end maybe a good thing for you and some less advanced or less knowledgeable ppl s-on is a good thing since with s-on phone is practically indestructible software-wise , while with s-off small mistake even in fastboot could brick the device.
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santod040 said:
Plus the obvious other advantages of flashing radios, kernels, etc,...without doing fastboot.
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With the HTC One, you can flash radios and kernels in the recovery if you unlock the bootloader...
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Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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To get official OTA with updates to firmware, hboot and everything you have to get them from your carrier, and this depends on your CID. You cannot change this on S-ON. So basically your are bound to your carrier for life, they may but also may not release updates (like for ex. carriers in USA skipped 4.2 if I am not mistaken). You can of course flash custom ROM using dev unlock, but it won't update the firmware.
Ah okay thanks for the info! I have one more question about S-OFF if you don't mind: If I S-OFF and disable the red warning (flashing an unsigned fw), then S-ON again, would the warning come back?
If you do s-on with modified hboot will result an instant and forever brick. Dont do that.
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Stephen304 said:
Ah okay thanks for the info! I have one more question about S-OFF if you don't mind: If I S-OFF and disable the red warning (flashing an unsigned fw), then S-ON again, would the warning come back?
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Why exactly would you want to go back to S-ON?
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[Q] Where do I start?

So here's the deal: I bought a HTC ONE back when it was released and I've enjoyed every minute of it, I loved the stock rom - it was smooth and worked like a charm. I have a lot of experience with flashing ROMS, had quite a few HTC phones before this one, but so far haven't tried ANYTHING with the ONE.
I got the update to the latest Android and I noticed there's something about HBOOT 1.44 vs. 1.54 - I checked and I have the 4.2.2 ROM running HBOOT 1.54.
I really want to get into custom roms and start testing a few out; but I have no idea where to start.
Normally I'd pick a guide and work the steps but I'm hesitant now that I've read bits and pieces about this HBOOT thing - I'm not sure what I means, why people are bummed out because they have 1.54 (which I have).
So yeah, I have no idea where to start. Can somebody give me a rundown, some guidelines, what does HBOOT 1.54 mean for me, where do I start?
Thanks,
Michiel.
From what I've read, having HBOOT 1.54 basically means that you can't S-off your device (as this is only available for 1.44). This means that you won't have access to deeper customisation for your phone (flashing different firmware and changing CID). CID determines what region your phone belongs to so this translates to how early you can get official OTA's as some regions get updates earlier than others. Also, if you want to fully transform your phone into a Google Edition HTC One, this is only open to units with a specific CID.
As for firmware, not really clear on what the differences between firmwares are but you can still flash different radios which are a component of firmwares (thus getting some of the benefits of newer firmware anyway).
That being said, you can flash the whole range of custom ROMs and kernels available on these forums provided that you've unlocked your boot loader. Directions for this can be found on the HTC website.
If you want an optimised stock ROM, try ARHD Sense which is basically your stock ROM with many performance improvements (especially when it comes to signal). For more customisation on Sense, you can try ViperOne.
Honestly there are so many excellent ROMs here that you can easily lose days trying every single one. The Google Edition ROMs are excellent too.
Hope this helps!
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Thank you both for detailed replies! This helped me ease my mind on the HBOOT-thing. Thanks!
What no one mentioned is that S-off allows you to remove the ****Tampered**** flag from the boot loader.
With S-off you can lock the boot loader. (With S-on it will show Re-Locked)
With S-off you can flash any RUU to return to stock. Without it you can only flash RUU's that match your CID and are newer than your current firmware.
These may not be important to you, but they're good to know before you jump in.
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Michiel0211 said:
So here's the deal: I bought a HTC ONE back when it was released and I've enjoyed every minute of it, I loved the stock rom - it was smooth and worked like a charm. I have a lot of experience with flashing ROMS, had quite a few HTC phones before this one, but so far haven't tried ANYTHING with the ONE.
I got the update to the latest Android and I noticed there's something about HBOOT 1.44 vs. 1.54 - I checked and I have the 4.2.2 ROM running HBOOT 1.54.
I really want to get into custom roms and start testing a few out; but I have no idea where to start.
Normally I'd pick a guide and work the steps but I'm hesitant now that I've read bits and pieces about this HBOOT thing - I'm not sure what I means, why people are bummed out because they have 1.54 (which I have).
So yeah, I have no idea where to start. Can somebody give me a rundown, some guidelines, what does HBOOT 1.54 mean for me, where do I start?
Thanks,
Michiel.
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All you have to do is unlock your bootloader via htcdev.com (note, this will wipe your data) and then flash a custom recovery. You can use this tool http://d-h.st/mas to simplify the process.
CoryTallman said:
What no one mentioned is that S-off allows you to remove the ****Tampered**** flag from the boot loader.
With S-off you can lock the boot loader. (With S-on it will show Re-Locked)
With S-off you can flash any RUU to return to stock. Without it you can only flash RUU's that match your CID and are newer than your current firmware.
These may not be important to you, but they're good to know before you jump in.
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Oh sweet I think I found something helpful. I just got my HTC one 6 days ago. I'm s-off so no tampered tag. Do I need to change my cid to flash any ruu? Do I need s-on to flash ruu's? I'm with Rogers in Canada. No RUU for me but there are ota's. Can I flash a different ruu and then the Rogers ota to bring be back to stock? I have s off can I leave it off so if the hboot gets updated by a future ota it will be ok? Thanks for any help.
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sixty_oz said:
Oh sweet I think I found something helpful. I just got my HTC one 6 days ago. I'm s-off so no tampered tag. Do I need to change my cid to flash any ruu? Do I need s-on to flash ruu's? I'm with Rogers in Canada. No RUU for me but there are ota's. Can I flash a different ruu and then the Rogers ota to bring be back to stock? I have s off can I leave it off so if the hboot gets updated by a future ota it will be ok? Thanks for any help.
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No matter what, you should stay s-off, it does not affect OTA's or RUU's in any way whatsoever. To flash any RUU, you need to be with a cid of 11111111
It's not possible for you to flash an ruu for something else and then flash the rogers ota I don't think

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