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I cant buy any programs at all.
Its many progs I would like to pay for the full version off.
Why cant I do this?
When will this be available in Norway?
Currently Norway is not a supported region for paid apps (see http://market.android.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138294 ).
Try the beta version of the market enabler ( http://code.google.com/p/market-enabler/ ) which I believe allows you to select which region you want to "appear" to be in so you can access the apps from that region.
Regards,
Dave
This is bull**** by google.
I have to have a rooted phone to do that, and I want to wait for a easy way to root my phone. This I haven't found.
syklitengutt said:
This is bull**** by google.
I have to have a rooted phone to do that, and I want to wait for a easy way to root my phone. This I haven't found.
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rooting your phone is kinda easy... but i admit it's a pain in the ass to have to mod it just for one or two apps
Pissing me off to.
syklitengutt said:
I cant buy any programs at all.
Its many progs I would like to pay for the full version off.
Why cant I do this?
When will this be available in Norway?
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I live up in Troms, Norway and I am a bit miffed at the ristrictions imposed on the market place too. I'm searching for a workaround and will post any easy solutions.
Hello to the Hero group too. I have come over from the Athena forum. I'm a WM6.5 traitor.
Hopefulle Google will change the way they support norwegians in the marked. It`s a shame!
To be fair, I believe that it is technically simple, but legally complicated to offer up something like the market in a new territory.
Essentially, Google is acting as a middle-man for all the application developers, who are selling you their apps. Depending on where they are physically located, there are all sorts of issues that may need to be taken into consideration (e.g. VAT, tax, payment processing etc) before they can open up the paid apps market to a new territory.
Not really much help to those of you in unsupported regions, and I do believe that a company the size of Google (and with resources to match!) should be able to do this much quicker!
Regards,
Dave
Have you been to Norway?
foxmeister said:
To be fair, I believe that it is technically simple, but legally complicated to offer up something like the market in a new territory.
Essentially, Google is acting as a middle-man for all the application developers, who are selling you their apps. Depending on where they are physically located, there are all sorts of issues that may need to be taken into consideration (e.g. VAT, tax, payment processing etc) before they can open up the paid apps market to a new territory.
Not really much help to those of you in unsupported regions, and I do believe that a company the size of Google (and with resources to match!) should be able to do this much quicker!
Regards,
Dave
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It's not legalities that are the problem here but bureaucracy and people sat on their arse drinking coffee and eating cake all day at work. It takes so damn long to get anything done in Norway. Take a look at the XBox 360 update - streaming movies and tv available but switched off in order to let a Norwegian company take control of the content. (But the contracts, and therefore the service, were not ready because everyone was on summer holiday!)
Don't hold your breath for a paid app Marketplace here until at least end of the year.
This is exactly the sort of area where the EU should step up to the plate to harmonize the laws across individual member states. I''m not talking about taxation, or tax rates, but it should be much easier to do business with the EU as a "bloc". Trouble is the bureaucrats seem to spend more time thinking up legislation to complicate and hinder, rather than make things simpler and easier for the people they represent!
Regards,
Dave
Ermmmm.
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This is exactly the sort of area where the EU should step up to the plate to harmonize the laws across individual member states. I''m not talking about taxation, or tax rates, but it should be much easier to do business with the EU as a "bloc". Trouble is the bureaucrats seem to spend more time thinking up legislation to complicate and hinder, rather than make things simpler and easier for the people they represent!
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Dave
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Norway's not in the EU and that's it's main problem.
Well, that comes as a surprise to me! I just assumed that it was!
Regards,
Dave
I understand your frustration very well, My country is in European region and IN the EU community and we can't buy payed apps on marketplace either. Our mobile providers have to make deals with google before they can enable it.
Typical Belgium, always steps behind.
These new smartphones and app markets are what makes these new generation phones appealing.
Hope it wont take to long, otherwise people start pirating soft like on WM.
at least you guys in the EU can see the light at the end of the tunnel, im in the middle east and know for a fact that ill never be able to buy an app for my phone ,how come Apple managed to do it with the Iphone ???
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at least you guys in the EU can see the light at the end of the tunnel, im in the middle east and know for a fact that ill never be able to buy an app for my phone ,how come Apple managed to do it with the Iphone ???
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so the light doesn't shine here in Luxembourg, no way to buy an app in the android store, just the free ones. Better than nothing
Rooted my phone. Now buying what I want when I want.
The same here , I'm from Saudi Arabia and I can't buy any app , I had the iphone before and I was able to buy anything also the had Arabic support !! even though apple is known for bad Arabic support , so google ; shame on you !!!!
Hi,
I want to introduce my new App ‘The Stock Game’. It’s available in Marketplace in a free and a commercial version, just if you don’t like ads in a program.
As the name says, you can simulate trading with all stocks around the world. But still remember, it’s just a game. So you can’t win real money, but you can’t lose too.
The app is highly rated in Germany, maybe users in other countries feel in the same way.
Top Features:
- Create user accounts to test different strategies
- search stocks worldwide
- buy and sell in all important currencies of the world, always with the actual stock quotation and exchange rate (only 15 minutes delayed)
- watch the charts of all stocks
- watch the chart development to your portfolio
- ranking list of the most successful players
- look at the portfolio of the top 100 players
- see the stock indices of the world, complete with charts
- on the app tile, you see all the time your actual account value
If I wakened your interest, look in marketplace
Greetings
Hanno
You have awoken my interest, i'm gonna try it, sounds intersting to see, wether one understands the stock market...
I downloaded this game from the market place a few days ago, and it is GREAT!
There was a slight server issue yesterday (where my portfolio showed $0) but otherwise i reccomend this to anyone
Hi irdawood,
I'm pleased that you like my program, did you give me already a rating in marketplace?
I know the problem with the 0 portfolio, but still it's not absolutely clear what the reason is. May a temporary problem with the internet connection. But it's appears not too often I think.
In some time an update will come with some interesting features, e.g. the price agent
Greetings
Hanno
cant seem to sell my stock only the buy option is available cant slide to right or left..
Nice game!
@sunspark,
sorry, my answer is a little delayed.
To sell stocks, you have to pick on the right side of the screen. Left side is to buy. I think when you done it once, it's clearly. To do it this way was a proposal from one of my beta testers and I built it in. I hope, beside this, you enjoy the game
Greetings
Hanno
After one year successful on the market and a lot of new features since initial release, I think it’s worse to give a little update about new features of my app.
Of course there are a lot of stock market apps around, but still none of them offers the features you’ll find here. Stock trading in not easy, here you can learn, and not only by yourself, you are part of a community of players and you can watch what they are doing. In the chat room you can discuss your thoughts about your strategies and ask other.
Here’s a list of the top features:
- Create multiple user accounts to test different strategies
- Select your preferred currency
- Search stocks worldwide
- Buy and sell all important currencies of the world, always with the actual stock quotation and exchange rates
- Watch the charts of all stocks, currencies and important indices
- Trade with commodities
- Watch the chart development to your portfolio
- Trace your trade history and all trades of all other players
- See the ranking list of all players, climbers and losers of last week and month and what the most popular stocks of all players are
- Look at the portfolio of all players
- Try high risk trading with short selling
- See the stock indices and currencies of the world, complete with charts
- The price agent watches any stocks and informs you when a fixed limit is reached
- On the app tile, you see all the time your actual account value and information from the price agent
- Create live tiles of your most interested stocks. See prices and the charts direct on the start screen of your device
- Choose your preferred start cash
- Visit the chat room
If you have further question about my app, fell free to ask
Greetings
Hanno
The Stock Game is voted number 2 in the wmpoweruser survey for best games, look on the WMPoweruser site.
Greetings
Hanno
Looks quite nice! One question! What kind of stocks are available in your game? Because now I am playing Stock Trading simulator by Trading Game and there are included stocks like Google, Apple, Tesla, Exxon, Nike and Disney, but that is not enough for me. Is your offer much wider choice, because I would really like to trade other stocks too.
The word Google has become synonymous with online search as it refers to the world’s best search engine, and it has developed a platform for huge free web-based applications that now we use every day to perform tasks, or simply for entertainment. The company now is a multinational corporation with a huge budget and a pre-determined strategy to grow bigger. But how does Google does it?
Google does it simply with its interest in providing what everyone needs and the way they want it to be. Unlike the other corporates that sells good or sometimes excellent products for a high price, Google’s answer to this is simply, a high quality “product as a service” and the best part it’s for free. However, the company also does sell online advertisement spaces. The ads are served also in their propriety services like Gmail and Docs etc.
Presenting an operating system for the small gadgets and making it free is a wise way to approach the market, and to get the approval of the experts the company made it based on Linux, the developers’ favorite. The project was first at the hands of a small company, but Google acquired it and financed the project so it can become a reality in order to expand in the telecommunication industry. The smart thing was including all of its services alongside new ones into the software, this making it getting closer to its users and getting the feedback with not much of an effort.
Google has developed some of its key services out from university labs. At first they would be tested for a long time internally, and then when it’s near perfection it’s released to the world like Gmail. The service was in beta phase for five years before it became stable. It’s is a pressure-free developing style, a style that divers it from others. While other companies have deadlines and a releasing schedule, Google doesn’t, simply because there is no one to report to. Its external contracts are different; Google doesn’t create a product for another corporate. Having so will enforce the company to work in a narrow area and with predetermined way. On the contrary it simply creates and presents the product for the other companies to work with.
Its employees are encouraged to work on project that interests them directly. This corporate culture cannot be simply copied. If it was, we would see someone doing it. It’s also what divers it from other companies and it’s what defines it now. Making the workspace fun and interesting is to maintain the current staff and attract new “brains”, the ones who might have an idea of a project that can turn out to be the next big thing.
Google maintains its services up and running with its dependency on ads; this was at first and might still be at a certain degree. But its market share and its focus on many fields might define the future of the corporate. Sole dependency on ads online is definitely not a good strategy and Google has figured that out already, with its expanding plans to other areas, first, ten years ago when it acquired Blogger the famous blogging platform. After that YouTube, with its 4 Billion videos streamed daily, alongside it’s cloud music service that has shown great threat to competitors with its simplicity. And lately it’s 12.5 Billion bid on Motorola Mobility.
It’s clear that Google continues to grow with its unique way of managing its business. It’s is what will define the corporate future, alongside our lifestyle that has been influenced and still does. We used to read printed books; we now read them on small devices to save the huge space the books occupy. There are many examples of how Google has enhanced the way we perform our tasks and activities and made them easy for us, and this is the reason why Google is so succeful.
Unagi said:
Unlike the other corporates that sells good or sometimes excellent products for a high price, Google’s answer to this is simply, a high quality “product as a service” and the best part it’s for free.
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NOTHING is free. I am as guilty as most of the people for taking their 'free' candy, but it will someday bite us on the ass.
Not sure when, but it will happen. And it won't be pretty!
And believe me they are not doing it to be good corporate citizens.
Making money online is easy
Unagi said:
The word Google has become synonymous with online search as it refers to the world’s best search engine, and it has developed a platform for huge free web-based applications that now we use every day to perform tasks, or simply for entertainment. The company now is a multinational corporation with a huge budget and a pre-determined strategy to grow bigger. But how does Google does it?
Google does it simply with its interest in providing what everyone needs and the way they want it to be. Unlike the other corporates that sells good or sometimes excellent products for a high price, Google’s answer to this is simply, a high quality “product as a service” and the best part it’s for free. However, the company also does sell online advertisement spaces. The ads are served also in their propriety services like Gmail and Docs etc.
Presenting an operating system for the small gadgets and making it free is a wise way to approach the market, and to get the approval of the experts the company made it based on Linux, the developers’ favorite. The project was first at the hands of a small company, but Google acquired it and financed the project so it can become a reality in order to expand in the telecommunication industry. The smart thing was including all of its services alongside new ones into the software, this making it getting closer to its users and getting the feedback with not much of an effort.
Google has developed some of its key services out from university labs. At first they would be tested for a long time internally, and then when it’s near perfection it’s released to the world like Gmail. The service was in beta phase for five years before it became stable. It’s is a pressure-free developing style, a style that divers it from others. While other companies have deadlines and a releasing schedule, Google doesn’t, simply because there is no one to report to. Its external contracts are different; Google doesn’t create a product for another corporate. Having so will enforce the company to work in a narrow area and with predetermined way. On the contrary it simply creates and presents the product for the other companies to work with.
Its employees are encouraged to work on project that interests them directly. This corporate culture cannot be simply copied. If it was, we would see someone doing it. It’s also what divers it from other companies and it’s what defines it now. Making the workspace fun and interesting is to maintain the current staff and attract new “brains”, the ones who might have an idea of a project that can turn out to be the next big thing.
Google maintains its services up and running with its dependency on ads; this was at first and might still be at a certain degree. But its market share and its focus on many fields might define the future of the corporate. Sole dependency on ads online is definitely not a good strategy and Google has figured that out already, with its expanding plans to other areas, first, ten years ago when it acquired Blogger the famous blogging platform. After that YouTube, with its 4 Billion videos streamed daily, alongside it’s cloud music service that has shown great threat to competitors with its simplicity. And lately it’s 12.5 Billion bid on Motorola Mobility.
It’s clear that Google continues to grow with its unique way of managing its business. It’s is what will define the corporate future, alongside our lifestyle that has been influenced and still does. We used to read printed books; we now read them on small devices to save the huge space the books occupy. There are many examples of how Google has enhanced the way we perform our tasks and activities and made them easy for us, and this is the reason why Google is so succeful.
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It will cost me more than 25 cents in electricity just deleting all of the spam generated from signing up to worthless sites. And 5 cents for showing a referral 1000 times? Lol. I think bums on skid row wouldn't waste their time on that!
BTW, Nice segue into a plug for your site.
You knew it was only a matter of time before someone figured out a way to fill their wallets off users by annoying them to death..
http://bgr.com/2014/02/12/chromecast-ads-coming-soon/
I will copy and paste a reply I left about this on Reddit
I can see it now for apps like Plex when Casting goes free (whenever that happens)
"We will Cast your content right after this short advertisement"
So sick of in app ads, so sick of freemium, so sick of subscription services (ie: PlexPass etc), so sick of pay to win games, so sick of every Android developer (not every, but you get the point) nickel and diming the piss out of users either with ads or micro-transactions. Enough.. Just follow the PC software model that has worked for decades. A set price, minor upgrades are free, major revisions you re-pay. The Android software market is the biggest racket.
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So sick of in app ads, so sick of freemium, so sick of subscription services (ie: PlexPass etc), so sick of pay to win games, so sick of every Android developer (not every, but you get the point) nickel and diming the piss out of users either with ads or micro-transactions. Enough.. Just follow the PC software model that has worked for decades. A set price, minor upgrades are free, major revisions you re-pay. The Android software market is the biggest racket.
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While I agree, the trouble is that video content doesn't really work like software. Every new episode would be a "major" release. It's not like you can release a movie in 2-minute segments. Well, maybe if you're J.J. Abrams...
I don't mind ads as long as I have the option to pay to get rid of them. Even Netflix could opt for a cheaper ad-supported tier if they wanted to.
To be honest, I like apps that are free with ads and paid without as it gives me a way to try the app for a period longer than the Play Store's 15 minutes.
[HOWTO] Chromecast/Netflix outside USA without VPN
Ad Blocking - DD-WRT Wiki
bhiga said:
To be honest, I like apps that are free with ads and paid without as it gives me a way to try the app for a period longer than the Play Store's 15 minutes.
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Or that too.
Brightcove is pretty big VOD provider, but yeah, that would work as long as the stuff you want to watch isn't hosted there.
YouTube could be uber sneaky and host the ads on YouTube itself so then it would be all-or-nothing.
On the plus side, YouTube could become the resurrection of AdCritic. I miss that site...
Talk about a blast from the past. Have you seen -
http://creativity-online.com/
I think everybody is struggling to find ways to make money from this technology. Google doesn't make any money on the hardware, and consumers just don't want to pay much for software (which is why the old PC software business model is gradually failing, and you see even companies like Microsoft going to Office 365-type subscriptions). So the result is they have to find a way to make money from subscriptions, fees, and/or advertising.
Google aren't the only ones considering advertising. Mozilla just announced that they're going to start putting ads in Firefox, inserted in the page of recent sites that appears when you open a new tab.
DJames1 said:
you see even companies like Microsoft going to Office 365-type subscriptions). So the result is they have to find a way to make money from subscriptions, fees, and/or advertising.
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The worst thing I've encountered so far with the subscription model is how it virally forces others to buy in.
Case-in-point, I got an Adobe InDesign file that I needed to look at. Fine, I have InDesign CS6. I load it up, and it tells me I can't open it because it was made in InDesign CS7.5
At least Microsoft has Office viewers. I was stuck with the InDesign thing - either go back and ask for a flattened version or subscribe, luckily I had the opportunity to just ignore it.
Like freedom, free software truly isn't free - at least not as long as people need to eat and pay bills. Renewable energy and homesteading may be the zero-cash way, but then we won't have enough time to code!
Maybe we need to come up with some "business productive" games. People-powered OCR Hangman?
Well I'll repeat something else I said
I'm guilty of being an old timer. I came into Android with 1.5 (CupCake).. The Market and Android community used to be a thriving community of freeware, innovation and great discussion.. I just hate what it turned into. It's like a gold rush and the end user is the gold and everyone is trying to sell you their bridge. I just hate how it got like this. I don't mind paying for stuff but it seem anymore it's a constant and quality has taken a back seat. It's like people stopped doing this for fun and a hobby and started trying to make a business.. Anything that is anything that is in demand someone will find a way to charge you for now a days.
P.S. I don't mind subscription services like Netflix etc. Dumb stuff like Plex Pass is a joke though. You're subbing monthly to unlock in-app features. Doesn't make any sense..
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I think everybody is struggling to find ways to make money from this technology. Google doesn't make any money on the hardware...
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Do we really know that?
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...tions-despite-strong-nexus-5-chromecast-sales
Biggest seller or a best seller in Q4 2013, depending how you take that article.
The packaging probably costs nearly as much as the product.
True, when it's easy for lots of people to make apps, the market gets crowded and confused.
Doesn't help that the rating system doesn't take into account that people use ratings maliciously to complain or penalize the developer for things often that are user error or out of the dev's control.
PlexPass gives other things like their cloud thing, but yeah, it is kind of "pay to be in the beta club" but hey, if it works for them, funds their continued development, and people are willing to pay, I don't have to like it, but I can't really criticize them either.
And with the $75 PlexPass lifetime, it's the same cost as a mid-range piece of software.
On Google profits, I'm sure Chromecast sold well, we can see from the lack of rootable units on shelves...
Of course they won't tell us how much they're making (or losing) on each sale. I bet most of the profit was Google Play.
I just doubt that they lost any money at $35 a pop - until the accountants got involved, because their job is to cover that up. Not whining or ranting, just stating a known part of the corporate income game.
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I just doubt that they lost any money at $35 a pop - until the accountants got involved, because their job is to cover that up. Not whining or ranting, just stating a known part of the corporate income game.
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True. Especially given the volume they produced at, I'm sure they negotiated some killer discounts with the manufacturers. :good:
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True. Especially given the volume they produced at, I'm sure they negotiated some killer discounts with the manufacturers. :good:
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http://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/7070288
Job's open.
My issue is not with the ads being there, this is a Google device so ads were to be expected be it from Google or someone else. My issue is with it being video ads, my DSL line is shaped during the day and I don't need this hogging the bandwidth preloading videos while I am trying to browse the web. I wish my country would get "first" world in terms of broadband just so this [email protected] stops bugging me...
/fingers crossed Eureka guys ad-block this .
EarlyMon said:
I just doubt that they lost any money at $35 a pop
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I don't think Google is losing money on the Chromecast hardware, at least not deliberately. But I do think they priced it not to make any money on the hardware.
Think about it:
- Google is not a hardware company. They deliberately try to stay out of the hardware business because they realize that the margins are really low. They make their money on fees and services. They only introduce hardware products as an enabler to get new things started.
- They are undercutting everybody else on price to have the cheapest brand-name media streamer. It's in the same price range as the cheapest Chinese no-name Android TV sticks.
- They introduced the Chromecast with an offer for 3 months free Netflix, which is 2 months more than Netflix normally offers. That's a $16 value for which Google undoubtedly compensated Netflix, although probably at a discounted rate. When Chromecast sales took off the first day, Google canceled that offer immediately, indicating both that they had allocated a limited budget for it, and that the price of the Chromecast would not bear it without losing money.
I'm very confused. So someone created a SDK for developers to include ads on Chromecast apps and people here are upset by this? Please tell me why.
We should keep in mind here, it's not Google inserting ads here, it's Brightcove who is enabling developers to insert video ads compatible with Chromecast. As the title of the linked article says, "Third Party Provides Way For Developers To Add Ads To Chromecast"
I doubt Google will see any of this revenue as Brightcove built this technology using the Cast SDK for their engine.
The key part here, and I could be totally off-base, is that it sounds like a library that a developer would add to their app - essentially using Brightcove's "Cast" function and player. That makes sense since Brightcove has an HTML5 player already in use by sites on the web.
For example, instead of developing my own HTML5 page that Chromecast would go to in order to play a video, I would just trigger the Brightcove "Cast" function, passing it the location and my key/ID. Chromecast would then run the Brightcove player app which plays the video content I chose with inserted ads. The fact that it's being advertised as "seamless" tells me the ads are being stitched into the video content and delivered as a single stream, rather than a playlist drawing from separate sources.
Aside from ad revenue, the huge plus for developers here is that Chromecast-enabled apps wouldn't even need to use the Cast SDK directly, because they're using the Brightcove casting engine. That means the specific Chromecast-enabled app wouldn't need to be on the whitelist or register with Google because it's really the Brightcove app that Chromecast is running. Brightcove is responsible for making sure the engine keeps up with Chromecast updates and changes so that's another burden off the developer.
A "no ads" version of an app that uses the Brightcove player may use the same request to Brightcove, just with a flag saying not to insert the ads. The "gotcha" here is that because Brightcove is the player for the video content the app uses, blocking Brightcove or the Brightcove app would block all casted video from the app.
Of course Brightcove probably shares in the ad revenue, so maybe they won't allow developers to use their engine without ads, in which case the theorized advantages to the developer go away for a "no ads" version as they'd still need to register and use the Cast SDK directly.
But likely Brightcove may take the gamble that enough people are cheap and use ad-supported versions that it covers the paid apps that aren't showing ads. Or maybe part of their developer agreement makes the developer pay for non-ad versions somehow. Just theorizing from the business perspective...
styckx said:
So sick of in app ads, so sick of freemium, so sick of subscription services (ie: PlexPass etc), so sick of pay to win games, so sick of every Android developer (not every, but you get the point) nickel and diming the piss out of users either with ads or micro-transactions. Enough.. Just follow the PC software model that has worked for decades. A set price, minor upgrades are free, major revisions you re-pay. The Android software market is the biggest racket.
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Thank you Sir, these are true words. I agree you to 100%
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Just follow the PC software model that has worked for decades.
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The PC software model had very few ongoing costs. You boxed up a CD and after that, the costs you incurred were mostly just support costs. Streaming video is not cheap. If you plan on charging once in a lifetime, then you will be out of business very quickly.
@DJames1 - those are good points, I'd like to counter with what the market will bear.
After the Google TV and Nexus Q flops, I don't think that Chromecast could have done better at a higher price point, even if it started out with more apps and features. I think that they had to plan for this price point and knew that going in.
As for the initial Netflix deal, I don't know if anyone besides the accountants know how that worked. Not a personal criticism, just saying - Netflix has a vested interest in DIAL succeeding. It makes secure delivery easy for them. Their revenue models for this sort of thing aren't trivial, see Roku's license deal for example.
Netflix will give newcomers a free month for watching Philip DeFranco on YouTube.
So between their giveaway budget for promotions, surely compensated in part by the content providers and anything paid back by Google in the form of free advertising, I think that entire initial allocation for Netflix with Google was all virtual money, if such a thing exists. Iow, lots of return on investment on both sides but actual investment costs in real dollars - closer to zero.
@bhiga - agree. This reminds me of the AirPush SDK, and quite a few others who seek out devs with revenue schemes.
http://www.ibtimes.com/google-chrom...rldwide-release-date-approaching-goog-1560666
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Awesome, finally a hard magnitude!
Imagined statement from Google boss to employee: "So remember, when you break something like HDCP, you're affecting millions of units."
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Awesome, finally a hard magnitude!
Imagined statement from Google boss to employee: "So remember, when you break something like HDCP, you're affecting millions of units."
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What will be interesting to see is how the sales are outside the US where many of the folks who bought one probably were from outside the US! LOL
It's a good thing cause when you breach the Million unit mark there is enough there to encourage content providers to support it.
You know my feelings here, I'm more interested in getting content providers to support flinging content to other monitors and I don't care what device is used for that.
Once it's in the App and Website adding different methods (mDNS, AirPlay, DLNA) is easy....
But getting them to put that Icon to select the device is the hard thing to get them to do.
Chromecast selling the way it has will help and Roku's new dongle will add to that.
UK Release date possibly next week
Looks like the likely release date is pegged as the 19th March ie. Next week. I can't wait !!!!
http://www.mobilelinuxnews.com/2014...-uk-9am-wednesday-19th-march-currys-pc-world/
The only thing that worries me and I'm interested in seeing is what is the real difference between the USA and the UK version...
Is it Hardware? Software? Or merely Content Restrictions?
If the just the Latter then finding a Root method will be very important and those that have root already it might be possible for Eureka devs to actually open up content restricted to the UK to rooted USA users as well.
Won't be easy by any means but possible none the less.
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The only thing that worries me and I'm interested in seeing is what is the real difference between the USA and the UK version...
Is it Hardware? Software? Or merely Content Restrictions?
If the just the Latter then finding a Root method will be very important and those that have root already it might be possible for Eureka devs to actually open up content restricted to the UK to rooted USA users as well.
Won't be easy by any means but possible none the less.
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A few major things hardware-wise come to mind:
WiFi/WLAN region set to Europe, so it uses European bands
European equivalent of FCC (I forgot what it is) certification
ROHS compliance (though this likely is already compliant since most manufacturing is global nowadays and complies as a matter of course)
USB power adapter with UK plug and 220-240V/50Hz compliance
From a user perspective, there wouldn't be a difference.
No access for providers that don't provide in the UK (already the case for those that have imported Chromecasts)
UK content for providers that do provide in the UK (already the case for those that have imported Chromecasts)
So really, the only change imagine is making Chromecast "legit" for UK use, and probably the rest of Europe once the required language translations are handled. Funny, the Chromecast app description includes "App available in over 50 languages" - either that's someone having too much free time, or Google is targeting much more than the English-speaking world.
Yep I saw the 50 Languages thing elsewhere but was more interested in the fact that 5Ghz seems to be something Google is thinking about as far as WiFi is concerned.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...3-with-new-languages-hints-of-tv-offers-more/
Not sure that is for this unit but it could foreshadow something for the future plans and next gen.