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IS not that popular based on number of posts?

I busted up my Legend and I got a Nexus S as a replacement. This I returned because I didn't like it much, mostly because I didn't like the way it felt in my hand. (Too plasticy)
Now I'm in the market for a new Android phone and the IS is a potential new phone. But purely based on the number of posts here and the activity level in these posts, the IS is NOT a popular phone. What's up?

The two major reasons I think are:
This thing is very very new and it's only available in Europe at the moment.
If it's not popular, so what. Do you like it? If you don't, then don't buy it.
You have a valid point though if you buy a popular device, there will almost certain be lots of developing for it.
On the other hand this thing looks nice and techy, so I think/hope developers will like this thing.
Meh, the only major reason for me not to buy it was the locked bootloader, but it'll get cracked somehow.
Track and traced my order and the driver is on the way! Can't wait for that doorbell to ring

This thread is much, much more quiet
Desire S
I really think this thing is just to fresh out of the oven

One reason could be that the Desire S haven't come out for sale yet whereas the Inc S have been out for almost a month now.
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Right now the phone is still pretty new and it's only being sold overseas. This phone will take off more once it lands on Verizon in the states. Plus if you already have a phone that came out within the last year this phone wouldn't be that much of an upgrade. Plus a lot of people might be waiting to make their next jump to a dual core phone.

The NAM 3G version is going to launch on Virgin Mobile Canada sometime in the next month or two. Note that the Verizon version would be CDMA and should probably get a distinct subforum unto itself.
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I'm getting the Indridible S, so that's settled. BUT it's because my Legend is busted. If it was still usable, I would have kept it. The Incredible S is just the only viable option right now.
"Plus the Incredible S lacks any unique differentiating features. You know, something like dedicated gaming keys (the XPERIA Play), or a Super AMOLED screen that can seal a deal by itself.
All that coupled with a high asking price like this makes the Incredible S a device that’s pretty hard to recommend. Of course, if your carrier offers it at a bargain price you may disregard this argument and get the handset – the solid smartphone experience is guaranteed.
Yet if you are looking for a SIM-free device and are paying full price, we feel there are better alternatives out there."
This is as true as it is sad....
Nexus S : Don't like the contruction, too much plastic, it's too "slippery" in the hands. My MAIN gripe is that they've moved the back button farthest away and it's the button you use the most.
Optimus 2X : Sorry, this is an ugly UGLY phone.The back looks like it something from 1994.
Xperia Arc : Too big, lovely phone.
Desire HD : Too big

NardVa said:
Plus if you already have a phone that came out within the last year this phone wouldn't be that much of an upgrade. Plus a lot of people might be waiting to make their next jump to a dual core phone.
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I think this is an important point. Any one who has a higher end existing phone will be more likely to go for the dual cores. From what I've seen there isn't a big difference between the Desire and Incredible S prices compared to the new LG dual core phone, so who is going to buy a single core phone if that's the case? I would be happy with an Incredible or Desire S, but at a lower price than is currently being asked for... Let the prices start dropping now please.... I want a new cheap phone!

Sebastian768 said:
I'm getting the Incredible S, so that's settled. BUT it's because my Legend is busted. If it was still usable, I would have kept it. The Incredible S is just the only viable option right now.
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I had a T Mobile band Nexus One and didn't have any intentions of getting a new phone unless it was a major upgrade over the Nexus One. (Probably would have made the Pyramid or T Mobile GX2 my next phone this summer) Unfortunately I broke my Nexus One so the Incredible S was the best option for me at the moment. I still want a dual core phone but instead of making the jump this summer I'll probably make the jump early next year.

Waiting for some next-gen dualcore devices isn't a bad idea.
But the technology is still very new, and I would like to see the actual improvement of the use experience. Afaik apps have to be updated to support dualcore. Until I SEE something truly amazing, a significant speed change in the browsers rendering or something like that. Why would I need dualcore? Of course higher numbers are cool. But if it were to be same speed, more eyecandy. I'm perfectly happy with a single core.
It does what I wan't and it does it fast. Why dual core? Do we need it yet?

Is this phone much of an upgrade over the Desire? Am due a new phone but don't want to make the price jump to a dual core yet.

I cannot wait for this phone.
I used to have an HTC Touch GSM and was the best phone i've ever had,
I'm waiting for it to come to Bell with NAM 3G

kopkiwi said:
Is this phone much of an upgrade over the Desire? Am due a new phone but don't want to make the price jump to a dual core yet.
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Spec wise the Incredible S is a tad bit better but I don't think it's a big upgrade over the Desire.

DaanJordaan said:
Waiting for some next-gen dualcore devices isn't a bad idea.
But the technology is still very new, and I would like to see the actual improvement of the use experience. Afaik apps have to be updated to support dualcore. Until I SEE something truly amazing, a significant speed change in the browsers rendering or something like that. Why would I need dualcore? Of course higher numbers are cool. But if it were to be same speed, more eyecandy. I'm perfectly happy with a single core.
It does what I wan't and it does it fast. Why dual core? Do we need it yet?
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You're right. There isn't a big need for dual core right now. The only real advantage I see to having dual core now is for the gaming aspect, but the high end game market is still in the early stages. As far everyday things like web, email, face book, you tube, Pandora, etc a single core phone does just fine.

NardVa said:
Spec wise the Incredible S is a tad bit better but I don't think it's a big upgrade over the Desire.
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So what would you recommend?

kopkiwi said:
So what would you recommend?
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If you have to get a phone now the Incredible S would be a good choice. I had a Nexus One, which is similar to the Desire, and went to an Incredible S. I was looking at the Nexus S also, but I prefer the build quality of HTC phones over the Samsung phones. Just a personal preference.

UPGRADE this month - what should I do??!!

Hey guys
I am due for my upgrade this month on Sprint and have no clue what to do. I've tried the EVO 3D and was really pleased with the speed and overall features. I've tried the Photon 4G too, and despite the great things I heard about it, I found the UI somewhat laggy and distasteful, and the screen somewhat pixelated. However, with the HTC+Beats Audio partnership announced today, it seems there will be a whole new line of HTC phones coming out this fall/october (likely same $200 price but possibility of faster 1.5 ghz dual-core processor, 8 MP cam, and even new Sense 3.5 -- specs rumored for HTC Vigor for VZW). I really like the idea of even better hardware as well as sound quality, but want the Evo and the cool 3D features too. It also seems worthwhile to wait b/c of the imminent Ice Cream Sandwich update and the new devices to come with that (ex. Nexus Prime or whatever it's called). What do you think I should do, and what are you ppl who also have upcoming upgrades thinking of doing???
I would like to hear your opinions
Thanks,
n33zy

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Hey guys
I am due for my upgrade this month on Sprint and have no clue what to do. I've tried the EVO 3D and was really pleased with the speed and overall features. I've tried the Photon 4G too, and despite the great things I heard about it, I found the UI somewhat laggy and distasteful, and the screen somewhat pixelated. However, with the HTC+Beats Audio partnership announced today, it seems there will be a whole new line of HTC phones coming out this fall/october (likely same $200 price but possibility of faster 1.5 ghz dual-core processor, 8 MP cam, and even new Sense 3.5 -- specs rumored for HTC Vigor for VZW). I really like the idea of even better hardware as well as sound quality, but want the Evo and the cool 3D features too. It also seems worthwhile to wait b/c of the imminent Ice Cream Sandwich update and the new devices to come with that (ex. Nexus Prime or whatever it's called). What do you think I should do, and what are you ppl who also have upcoming upgrades thinking of doing???
I would like to hear your opinions
Thanks,
n33zy
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The 3vo will get upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich sooner than most phones so it's definitely a solid choice, but then these are the first generation of dual-core like you said. Once the better dual-core processors hit the market you'll be thanking yourself for waiting. As well, all this open sense stuff should be taking more effect in a few months and a lot of developers are gonna be all over the newer sense phones.
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Wait. Theyre killing off a lot of phones in the next 3 months to release a new line.
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I'm waiting to see what develops. My guess is that the new Samsung (Within) will be the next big developer phone, but Nexus Prime is definitely on my radar. Most likely will not be released until the holidays ... but who knows for sure. I am not impressed with the Photon. For the moment, my original Supersonic is still working great.

I agree with what everyone else is saying too. I'd wait it out, see what news Sprint gives out on what other devices they have.. Or at the very least wait for the sgs2 to get released, better yet the nexus 3 / prime
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Either way you look at it, you're still going to get a device that'll be outdated the day it hits the shelves. I got my EVO 3D on pre-order and got it opening day, I've had it for over a month now, and newer things are coming out. It all just depends on how long you want to wait, not what phones to wait for.

Wait a few months if you can. Newest phones are right on the horizon so if you don't need a new beeter phone right now be patient and wait.
You'll be glad you did.
Even better, save some money while your waiting that way you don't have to use your upgrade that way when another new phone comes out 3 months after you bought the first you can use your upgrade on that.
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Thanks everyone for your insightful responses. I've been thinking about it, and I think the best thing to probably do is just hold out another month or so and wait to see what gets announced (my birthday is at the end of Sept. anyways). I should be able to keep my current phone for a while with the fairly speedy roms out right now on the HeroC. If I don't see anything new that interests me, which I don't think will be the case, I will always have the 3D as a backup option.
stay classy, XDA

Wait for the galaxy s 2.

I'm trying to figure out what I should do as well, my upgrade is on September 1st.
Most likely I'm just going to get the Samsung Galaxy S 2, and upgrade it to Ice Cream with the help of the geniuses on this website.
I highly doubt the Prime will make it to Sprint very quickly, the Nexus S took 4-5 months did it not? I thought it came out officially around November then Sprint carried it in March or April, if I'm not mistaken. I suppose if you want to buy unlocked then wait for the Prime but I don't think Sprint will get it so quickly unfortunately.
If they were smart they'd try to, the iPhone is coming in October, so Google really should push the phone out to the carriers ASAP. If they would announce something next month officially I would wait a month or maybe even two, but without an announcement, I'll probably get the Galaxy, it's one helluva phone.
If you look at the two the differences will be very small..yes the Nexus will have a nicer screen certainly, but does that make the Galaxy's screen any less nice? probably the second nicest looking screen out there. Then the Nexus will have a slightly faster processor, but who knows maybe the Nexus won't have removable storage like the last one, if that's the case I would buy the galaxy immediately, I don't like being restricted in storage space (unless the standard amount is 32gb..then I probably wouldn't really care)

n33sirgp said:
Hey guys
I am due for my upgrade this month on Sprint and have no clue what to do. I've tried the EVO 3D and was really pleased with the speed and overall features. I've tried the Photon 4G too, and despite the great things I heard about it, I found the UI somewhat laggy and distasteful, and the screen somewhat pixelated. However, with the HTC+Beats Audio partnership announced today, it seems there will be a whole new line of HTC phones coming out this fall/october (likely same $200 price but possibility of faster 1.5 ghz dual-core processor, 8 MP cam, and even new Sense 3.5 -- specs rumored for HTC Vigor for VZW). I really like the idea of even better hardware as well as sound quality, but want the Evo and the cool 3D features too. It also seems worthwhile to wait b/c of the imminent Ice Cream Sandwich update and the new devices to come with that (ex. Nexus Prime or whatever it's called). What do you think I should do, and what are you ppl who also have upcoming upgrades thinking of doing???
I would like to hear your opinions
Thanks,
n33zy
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I just got the EVO 3D, and its a pretty Great phone man Honestly....

Screw Evo3d cant even hold a conversation without it dropping calls. Do like i will and get Galaxy s2 on September 9th. Duel core and the sprint version is 4.5 inches its going to be a beast.

PMGRANDS said:
I just got the EVO 3D, and its a pretty Great phone man Honestly....
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It's about time you made the switch
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U should actually upgrade when I upgrade.. in April.. yeah?
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shawn1482 said:
Screw Evo3d cant even hold a conversation without it dropping calls. Do like i will and get Galaxy s2 on September 9th. Duel core and the sprint version is 4.5 inches its going to be a beast.
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Can't hold a Conversation Without dropping calls? I Haven't had Any dropped calls... But time will tell I guess!

shawn1482 said:
Screw Evo3d cant even hold a conversation without it dropping calls. Do like i will and get Galaxy s2 on September 9th. Duel core and the sprint version is 4.5 inches its going to be a beast.
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the sg2 will drop calls too. its not the phone, its sprints crappy network.

Majin101 said:
U should actually upgrade when I upgrade.. in April.. yeah?
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They should be rolling out LTE in a few markets by then. I wonder how long they will keep Wimax alive after that

fixxxer2008 said:
the sg2 will drop calls too. its not the phone, its sprints crappy network.
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Crappy? Lol, I've had nothing but good luck on my Hero with Sprint... Are you in a bad coverage area?
And a Sammy can't compair to an HTC If your buying the Samsung for its specs you'll be disappointed. HTC phones are the best around.
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I share the anxiety about the upgrade! I was eligible last month and haven't pulled the trigger on anything yet.
It's like I have some neurotic attachment to the thing. The trackball, the perfect size, knowing how crappy it was when it came out and how awesome it is now with 2.3... it'll be hard to say goodbye!
I'm thinking the sg2; every phone I've owned besides the hero has been samsung and I have liked them all... but by the time it comes out it'll be easy to talk myself out of it and wait for the nexus prime.
Anybody that was used to the Hero's size and stepped up to a EVO-sized phone, was it hard to adjust to it? My gf has the EVO and I wouldn't want to walk around all day with a phone that big in my pocket.

I too, just upgraded to the EVO 3D after having my great Hero for 2 years. I was deciding between the 3D, the Photon 4G and the SGS2. I read a lot of official and unofficial reviews of all the phones as well as many opinions on this site. I have found that while the SGS2 is more powerful on paper, it doesn't bring too much else to the game other than an updated skin and 1080p recording.
Performance-wise, all of these dual core phones should offer a very significant upgrade compared to the Hero we all know and love. After using the Hero for 2 years and having the 3D as my first "modern" Android device, I can say that I wouldn't tell the difference between the 3D or the photon unless I compared them side by side. Any speed is a blessing compared to the Hero, even when it was overclocked and optimized.
Overall, the decision this time comes down to brand loyalty. I chose to stick with HTC because they have been reliable to me for the past two years, and quite frankly, I like Sense better than Motoblur or TouchWiz. All three phones are much more powerful than the Hero, and now is a great time to upgrade.
Hope that helped.

[Q] Dilemma now. SGS2 or Vivid?

I've been on Samsung for the last couple years and just picked up the SGS2 a couple weeks ago mainly because it already had root. Now that the Vivid has an unlocked bootloader, just trying to decide if I should jump to it before the 30 days is up?
Anybody here had the SGS2 and gone to the Vivid or vice versa that can assist?
I'm so torn!!

Jirv311 said:
I've been on Samsung for the last couple years and just picked up the SGS2 a couple weeks ago mainly because it already had root. Now that the Vivid has an unlocked bootloader, just trying to decide if I should jump to it before the 30 days is up?
Anybody here had the SGS2 and gone to the Vivid or vice versa that can assist?
I'm so torn!!
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My opinion: Jump. While I've not tried the GS2, I had a GS1. Other than Voodoo sound, it was pretty rubbish, and I definitely don't trust Samsung to make a smartphone anymore.
Also, Touchwiz looks like poo and runs like it too. Sense is a bit fat, but you get a fully functioning and fully integrated experience.

That all depends....
Do you want an over-saturated, painful to look at, cartoonish display with a bad UI?
Or a higher res, vivid, true color display, decent UI.... and LTE?
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ClippinWings said:
That all depends....
Do you want an over-saturated, painful to look at, cartoonish display with a bad UI?
Or a higher res, vivid, true color display, decent UI.... and LTE?
See my sig.
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Only advantage the vivid has is LTE, but you can get the skyrocket.
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Longcat14 said:
Only advantage the vivid has is LTE, but you can get the skyrocket.
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I'd consider the display a HUGE advantage.... bigger than LTE even.
the SGSII display is so bad I would have returned mine whether the Vivid was released or not. And that's saying something considering i was using a Dell Streak with a shattered screen previous to my SGSII.
And the Skyrocket is a joke...
It takes the already bad screen in the SGSII, and destroys the pixel density by supersizing it without bumping the resolution.

ClippinWings said:
And the Skyrocket is a joke...
It takes the already bad screen in the SGSII, and destroys the pixel density by supersizing it without bumping the resolution.
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I agree. I didn't care much for the Skyrocket.
So, is it safe to say now that the Vivid will probably end up with MIUI and/or ICS eventually?

Absolutely. It's on HTC's official "Will get ICS" list, which makes AOSP/custom ICS even easier.

How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.

Jirv311 said:
I agree. I didn't care much for the Skyrocket.
So, is it safe to say now that the Vivid will probably end up with MIUI and/or ICS eventually?
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Good chance.
Jirv311 said:
How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.
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Well, have a free "thanks", I missed the quote button.
It feels pretty solid. It's definitely on the heavier side as compared with Samsung phones, but I honestly don't really notice. Far more durable than my Galaxy S Captivate, and less finicky than the Desire HD line.

Jirv311 said:
How's the quality of the phone itself? As in, how does it feel in hand? My local AT&T store didn't have it and the Best Buy near me that does would not open a box for me to look at so I haven't even held it yet.
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I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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I had the GSII and the Skyrocket before my vivid. I have to say the dealbreaker for me with the Sammy's was Touchwiz. I hate it. I mean I hate it with a passion. All round the Vivid is more solid. It feels like it will last 2 years if need be.

You should ask this question in the SGS II section, you would get the opposite answers.
You could ask in almost any forum, and always get a response of the forum you are in is better. I would bet even people in the Atrix 2 forum would say that mid range phone is better than both these high end phones.
You can cancel your upgrade, then you have 30 days to decide again. If you just swap phones, the clock doesn't start over, and you only get a few days to decide how you want to spend the next 18 months.
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quarlow said:
You should ask this question in the SGS II section, you would get the opposite answers.
You could ask in almost any forum, and always get a response of the forum you are in is better. I would bet even people in the Atrix 2 forum would say that mid range phone is better than both these high end phones.
You can cancel your upgrade, then you have 30 days to decide again. If you just swap phones, the clock doesn't start over, and you only get a few days to decide how you want to spend the next 18 months.
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I may end up trying the Vivid for a couple days to see how I like it. Otherwise, I'll wait on the upgrade.
And I agree, I'm probably asking for some biased responses here but thought I might find somebody who has had both phones that could help.

ClippinWings said:
I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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I had the GSII and the Skyrocket before my vivid. I have to say the dealbreaker for me with the Sammy's was Touchwiz. I hate it. I mean I hate it with a passion. All round the Vivid is more solid. It feels like it will last 2 years if need be.
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So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?

ClippinWings said:
I went from sgsII to Vivid and at first I was very worried I would hate the weight....
BUT after a week or so, at most, I didn't even notice and now, lighter phones like the sgsII and skyrocket feel extremely cheap.
Honestly the build quality of this phone is 2nd to only the iPhone 4 for quality feeling to me... Certainly a huge step above the flimsy plastic Samsung uses.
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Jesus, it's hilarious when people pull the "LOL, all phones have better build quality then Samsung phones." No, they all have worse, what you have is better build feel.
Drop your vivid from a 4 foot drop, I dare you, and watch it shatter into a million pieces and dent the **** out of your phone.
Me, I've dropped my skyrocket on concrete countless times, no shattered screen (gorilla glass) and the "flimsy" plastic your talking about, I have one minor scratch.
But, at least it's not as bad as the iOS fanboys and their all glass phone, can't drop that from a 6 inch drop without shattering the back.
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Jirv311 said:
So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?
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I'm going to assume you mean Skyrocket and SGS II.
The SGS II has the powerful Exynos, so obviously in terms of raw horsepower, it obliterates ALL phones.
The skyrocket has an LTE radio, but honestly, the battery drain is no different then my Infuse, which had AMAZING battery life.
Now that the LTE radio and HSPA+ radio are the same radio (not 2 seperate radios like on VZW's LTE phones and the Vivid), it saves power as it can actually turn off the data when not needed.

It comes down to personal preference. Trying them out is key. Ever tried Samsung touchwiz? Compare it to HTC Sense and there is a huge difference. I'm not alone when I say Sense is the most polished and seamless UI on the market. It integrates many things that other UIs do not. The sheer amount of widgets sense has is pretty amazing too. All of which have a 3d effect when scrolling between screens.
If you will be heavily modding, I say go HTC. Otherwise you will get bored with touchwiz and aosp ROMs, there's hardly even a difference between the two. With HTC you will have a wide variety of sense and aosp roms.
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I've used both- personally owning a vivid, and helping my friend with his gs2, rooting and romming it with cm7 for him.
The GS2 is extremely light, too light for me but I don't think it's truly a negative. His battery lasts longer than mine, however mine is faster. The camera boots faster and overall using the software feels solid. That is with the vivid locked and slowed down by sense to some extent.
One thing of note that no one states about the galaxy s 2. If you want to shoot 1080p video, it forces the sensor to zoom in almost all the way. If you don't believe me- http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1085142.html
The vivid does not zoom in at all, making for full sized 1080p footage. I prefer the screen IMMENSELY on the vivid, however I think the gorilla glass is a huge plus on the s2.
Really you need to weigh out what's important to you as both have positives and negatives. After using his galaxy s2 I was extremely happy that I decided to upgrade to the vivid.

Jirv311 said:
So since you both had both phones, can you shed any light on differences in speed and battery life between the 2 or is it really even noticeable?
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Battery-wise the Samsung wins, hands down... That's the vivds only weak spot.
Speed, in benchmarks the vjvid gets slaughtered... BUT in reality, its the smoothest phone I've ever used.... So if there is a speed difference it may exist with some graphics intensive games, but is irrelevant in my normal use.
And to answer the question of dropping the vivid... That's what a case is for.... The difference is by the time you put a case on the super thin super dainty sgsII, you loose any advantage of its thin profile.... While the vivid still feels like it was built to handle the zombie apocalypse.
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Well, I bit the bullet today and picked up the Vivid. I have a week left of my 30 days and so far I like it. The UI does seem a bit more finished. Definitely a little bit of lag in it but I'm sure a kernel can fix that.
I do like the extra thickness of it. I feel more comfortable holding it. Much less like I'm going to drop it.
Now I have some things to learn. Can somebody point to me some good reading on how flashing, S-Off, etc all work on the HTCs? The Samsung scene is a bit different.

Jirv311 said:
Well, I bit the bullet today and picked up the Vivid. I have a week left of my 30 days and so far I like it. The UI does seem a bit more finished. Definitely a little bit of lag in it but I'm sure a kernel can fix that.
I do like the extra thickness of it. I feel more comfortable holding it. Much less like I'm going to drop it.
Now I have some things to learn. Can somebody point to me some good reading on how flashing, S-Off, etc all work on the HTCs? The Samsung scene is a bit different.
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No S-Off yet, but we still have perm root and can flash ROMs. All in one package right here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836

What's gonna be your next phone?

I love my vivid. (And its s-off)
I am just wondering what New phone is gonna make me change my heart.
Thought about the galaxy nexus, but heard that a lot of apps still don't support it. N the 5mp camera (pictures look fine tho)
So what phone will make u give up ur vivid? (Current/to be released/Concept)
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HTC One X
HTC One X. From the presentation just now, looks to be a solid improvement to the vivid.

tennockey said:
HTC One X. From the presentation just now, looks to be a solid improvement to the vivid.
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Lol good joke. That things going to already be behind the curve when it comes out. No removable battery, the battery capacity is small too. No microsd support. Only 4.3 inch screen INCLUDING the ICS on screen keys at the bottom (for the one s, not sure about screen size on one x, edit: the one x has a 4.7 inch). Comes preloaded with ICS, but only a dual core processor(for both one x and one s). I'll wait for an ICS phone with a bigger removable battery, microsd support, etc. But I will say, I'm glad they moved to super amoled.
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almost a 200 maH upgrade from the vivid, although i don't see why people can't fit a giant battery like the razr maxx in a good phone : (

it will flop as will most of these quad core phones, no batteries will last more than 4 hrs...htc is notorious for undersized batteries for their phones...the vivid couldve gotten a 2000mAh battery as I bought for my two devices without having to change backplate...and it wouldve been good....but it boils down to money and they do not spend on the extra power for their devices, has been that way forever...I dont care what operating system they release if they do not increase spending on more powerful batteries to support the phones itll flop...

Its sad, I would gladly pay an extra $50-100 for a much bigger battery without having some crazy bulge in the phone. Hate having to worry about getting through a single day. One of the only reasons I still have the gs2, it's battery life is much better

I purchased 2 2000mAh andida batteries with wall charger for 40.00 with shipping....
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Its sad, I would gladly pay an extra $50-100 for a much bigger battery without having some crazy bulge in the phone. Hate having to worry about getting through a single day. One of the only reasons I still have the gs2, it's battery life is much better
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how much extra charge does that generally give you? I mean is it a respectable hour or two extra?

dont know yet, just got them yesterday and have to recycle them 4 times before maximum power is achieved
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how much extra charge does that generally give you? I mean is it a respectable hour or two extra?
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well let us know! would be worth buying if there's a good improvement. thanks

this is second recycle today

thanks for posting. those look very promising

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But I will say, I'm glad they moved to super amoled.
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I believe it's the SuperLCD 2.
Either way, pretty disappointing "big" announcement from them today. And only dual core for the US. I honestly couldn't imagine having a phone larger than the Vivid as is. They're almost tablet sized now.

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I believe it's the SuperLCD 2.
Either way, pretty disappointing "big" announcement from them today. And only dual core for the US. I honestly couldn't imagine having a phone larger than the Vivid as is. They're almost tablet sized now.
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I think one of them is super amoled, whether it be an international version or just one of the variants. Or the CNET twitter is giving out misinformation.
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Lol good joke. That things going to already be behind the curve when it comes out. No removable battery, the battery capacity is small too. No microsd support. Only 4.3 inch screen INCLUDING the ICS on screen keys at the bottom (for the one s, not sure about screen size on one x, edit: the one x has a 4.7 inch). Comes preloaded with ICS, but only a dual core processor(for both one x and one s). I'll wait for an ICS phone with a bigger removable battery, microsd support, etc. But I will say, I'm glad they moved to super amoled.
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the One X will have Tegra 3 global edition and Snapdragon S4 LTE edition.
Tegra 3 seems more promising, but battery would be a problem.

I only just got this phone (velocity) My next phone will be in 23Months, so I have no idea what I will be looking at, Android 7 with a Tegra5 octo-core, 4gb of ram, 128gb ssd, a 1920mAh battery if I'm lucky and a self-lubricating blow job machine?
How often do you people turn over your phones lol?

Hopefully none of us will need a new phone after the ics update hits.
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I only just got this phone (velocity) My next phone will be in 23Months, so I have no idea what I will be looking at, Android 7 with a Tegra5 octo-core, 4gb of ram, 128gb ssd, a 1920mAh battery if I'm lucky and a self-lubricating blow job machine?
How often do you people turn over your phones lol?
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lol I did about once a month for a while. Inspire, Infuse, Aria, Desire Z, the list goes on and on. I finally decided to settle on the Vivid for a while.

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I have about 20 months left, I'd guess. See what's on the market then. If Nexus is more mainstream and still unadulterated, I'll go for that. But if the HTC still gets me with Sense's prettiness, I wouldn't have a problem getting another one.

So has anyone considered switching to HTC One?

Was just wondering if anyone had tried the S4 for awhile only to now reconsider going to the HTC One...

What's an HTC One? Never heard of such a device that has the expanding configurable capabilities that the S4 possesses.

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What's an HTC One? Never heard of such a device that has the expanding configurable capabilities that the S4 possesses.
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Lol. I havent played with it - so I have no idea what the features are on that phone.... I'll have a look this weekend.

Before buying the S4, I gave heavy consideration to the HTC One. I watched videos and reviews from multiple sources.
Overall, these are the reasons why I chose and will continue to stick with the S4:
- Battery Life - Our battery is much better than the HTC One. I compared it to a friend who has the HTC One and he was averaging about 2hr 45 min on screen time on a typical day where I've been getting close to 5hrs screen on time.
- Latest Android Software - I know it probably doesn't make a huge difference, but I really like 4.2. The lock screen widgets come in handy. Being able to check my Falcon Twitter and Gmail without even unlocking the phone is a huge plus.
- It's Samsung - What this means is that our phone will still be receiving firmware upgrades all the way into mid 2015. Not saying that the HTC One won't, but HTC is in real trouble, and if they go out of business, that my make things very complicated for current HTC users. Plus, even afloat, I've heard awful things about timeliness of firmware updates from HTC.
So yeah, I bought the S4 and I'm not looking back.

Came from the HTC One. I liked it a lot but the S4 works a lot better for me.
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Nope! I will gladly take a 5" 1080p screen over a 4.7" 1080p screen anyday.
Worrying about pixel density in screens this small is silly, I rather have more useable screen real estate.

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Before buying the S4, I gave heavy consideration to the HTC One. I watched videos and reviews from multiple sources.
Overall, these are the reasons why I chose and will continue to stick with the S4:
- Battery Life - Our battery is much better than the HTC One. I compared it to a friend who has the HTC One and he was averaging about 2hr 45 min on screen time on a typical day where I've been getting close to 5hrs screen on time.
- Latest Android Software - I know it probably doesn't make a huge difference, but I really like 4.2. The lock screen widgets come in handy. Being able to check my Falcon Twitter and Gmail without even unlocking the phone is a huge plus.
- It's Samsung - What this means is that our phone will still be receiving firmware upgrades all the way into mid 2015. Not saying that the HTC One won't, but HTC is in real trouble, and if they go out of business, that my make things very complicated for current HTC users. Plus, even afloat, I've heard awful things about timeliness of firmware updates from HTC.
So yeah, I bought the S4 and I'm not looking back.
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^^ This
Plus, after having previous HTC devices that lost all official support after 6 months or less I will never buy HTC again.

CCallahan said:
^^ This
Plus, after having previous HTC devices that lost all official support after 6 months or less I will never buy HTC again.
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Yep. One of my buddies asked me to root his Evo about 6 months ago and I was shocked to have to settle for a Gingerbread ROM. I had thought for sure there would be some stable ICS roms available but every ICS or JB rom had at least one major flaw that my friend wouldn't have been able to live with.
Hell, even my my old LG Optimus V has a stable JB rom.

No removable battery + no expandable memory = no thanks
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No removable battery + no expandable memory = no thanks
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Absolutely
I love the 90s. Good times.

I had a One for about a week. It's a great phone and a really good attempt by HTC. I still miss a couple things from it but everything already described here outweighs everything it has to offer. I always end up back with Samsung.
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Also had the One for a week. It was a seriously great phone. The design of the phone is just gorgeous. Also the weight of it was really nice.
Sense looked and worked great but is not nearly as customizable as tw. And as good as the design and materials seemed, it was not durable or built well in the least. A 2" drop caused some severe corner rash and even a dent. Battery life was excellent but during my first full day with this device, im on track to destroying the htc as far as battery life.
Was def a great attempt and design, but the overall quality of construction and materials is severely lacking. Ill take my new slippery plastic cheap looking s4 over the one all day every day.
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Also the screen wasnt totally flush with the body of the phone. And the top and bottom trim was perfect on the right side, and both hella gapped on the left side. Like I said, great design, poor build quality.
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^^^ This. Until such time that every manufacturer switches to this unreasonable design thereby forcing me to accept it, I will never purchase a phone (especially at full contract price as I buy most of my devices) that doesn't offer removable battery and expandable memory. I very much dislike having to rely on cloud storage to house the things I want access to at all times.
Having said that, I admit I considered it, because I loved my OG EVO so much (which of course offered both removable batter and expandable storage), until I read a multitude of reviews (mostly positive) but there are some build defects that would absolutely drive my OCD tendencies through the roof, so I opted to stay with the brand I know. Now if they'd just move the power button to the top of the phone I'd be thrilled. lol

I gave this a lot of thought and spent quite a bit of hands on time with both devices before settling with the S4. Every time I think of the HTC One I quickly remind myself of the poor software, camera, ergonomics, and lack of support that HTC provides for their phones. I simply don't trust HTC as a company and the Google S4 helped keep me with Samsung that much more. The minor issues with the S4 will be fixed soon enough and then it won't really be a competition as far as I'm concerned. I'm really curious to how many Ones have been sold compared to the almost 10 million S4s, which came out what, a month after the One. And I actually use the "gimmicky" features of the S4. The other day I was working on my car, hands filthy black, covered in grease and dirt. My dad called instead of missing the call waved my hand over my phone and spoke to him. I don't use these features always but if I'm at work or doing something were I will get dirty I turn them on. I couldn't do that type of stuff on the One. There is also things like the One not supporting quick charge even though it has the same Qualcomm chip? Maybe the metal was getting to hot on charge so they disabled it? Anyway I'm totally content with my S4 and I feel time will just keep reassuring my decision to stick with Samsung. :thumbup:
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Nice big screen, lightweight and slim, plus what Shady said, not a chance!

I, like many above, looked very hard at both before pulling the trigger on the S4. I'm coming off a long line of HTC phones, but my wife has had the S3 for about 6 months. I do all the tweaking of the S3, so I use it a fair amount, and had grown to like TW more than Sense. Plus, the S3 always stomped my HTC Evo 4G LTE whenever we'd be looking something up on the internet, downloading something, etc. We'd be doing it side-by-side, and the S3 was better EVERY time, and usually by a large margain. That really planted the bug to move to Samsung for me.
I've never looked back One-wise. I might have a few minutes of doubt early on while learning the phone, but I'd have just returned it and gone back to my Evo, or bought an S3. But I'm just thrilled with the phone at this point. It really works well. I'm out on the lake fishing and pull up a radar map, boom, it's there, every time. On my HTC, very hit or miss on the same lakes. And the daylight pictures are stunning, something I could never say for my HTC's.
Bottom line, the S4 works like I've always wanted a smartphone to work.

Never. Not even a little bit.
Sent from the rabbit hole.

After the review on the HTC One spoke about how awful repairing it would be and how opening the device pretty much destroys the phone I decided to pass. The S4s "lack of build quality" makes me laugh as the the HTC One's guts are awful whereas the S4 is well put together and its plastic outer materials are more reliable than the aluminum of the HTC One (denting and scratching). Also, as the others before me the unibody design of the One against the removable storage and battery of the S4...NO BRAINER! The Sprint variant also shipped with SIM card so that was a huge bonus for me (in the military so being out of country won't force me to buy a new cheapo phone). Samsung is also more likely to get updates and those updates last longer than HTCs. With a Google version on the way I am stoked as it could very well mean we will get some devs to port some of that amazingness over to the branded variants. Also, I did come from HTC Evo 3D in case you think I'm just another Samsung fan-boy.

GS4 to HTC 1
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Was just wondering if anyone had tried the S4 for awhile only to now reconsider going to the HTC One...
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Yes.
I rooted my EVO 3 years ago in 2-3 carefully researched hours.
I'm into 2 days across macs Linux and windows exploits. Samsung: I'm not very good but if I can't get root this weekend, back it goes!

greenja said:
Yes.
I rooted my EVO 3 years ago in 2-3 carefully researched hours.
I'm into 2 days across macs Linux and windows exploits. Samsung: I'm not very good but if I can't get root this weekend, back it goes!
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You do realize basically all of us have it rooted right?