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My milestone run MIUI rom 1.7.8. Available memory is about 20-30 MB , so when I opened camera and taked a picture, It stucked there for a couple minutes. Then I rebooted my phone and Available memory is 40-50 MB, and nothing wrong with the camera ?? How can I fix the memory problem?? please help
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I do believe that's because when you had 20~30 mb free, there were many others apps running in memory.
The camera app froze the phone 'cause it had no free memory.
When you restarted your phone you had more free memory because you were not running all those app you probably were before.
Sucks, but Milestone's memory is really low
felipefill said:
I do believe that's because when you had 20~30 mb free, there were many others apps running in memory.
The camera app froze the phone 'cause it had no free memory.
When you restarted your phone you had more free memory because you were not running all those app you probably were before.
Sucks, but Milestone's memory is really low
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No man, I open task killer and kill everything. When I bought it , It had about 150 MB free memory man . So confuse ??
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mtnhan1996 said:
No man, I open task killer and kill everything. When I bought it , It had about 150 MB free memory man . So confuse ??
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Ok clearly you are new to milestone. The thing is when you bought the phone it was probably running 2.1 eclair or 2.0 which uses very little ram: it had the least features (no jit or a2sd) hence it's the lightest on ram. However you have to understand that since froyo google has been trying to add more features to android and use exisitng resources to boost performance and since Google's flagship phone at the time of froyo was the nexus one (which had 512mb of ram whereas the milestoen only has 256mb of ram) and so they used ram to boost performance which is essentiall what JIT is. So there's an issue. The milestone is already short on ram and 2.2/2.3 uses more ram which is why they are sometimes slower (not all, something like froyo mod or cronos ginger/ho!no! is bloody fast) which is why you have less free ram.
but over to MIUI which has even MORE features than stock gb which means it uses up even MORE ram which is why you have so little free ram. use this script, it should help the ram issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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Ok clearly you are new to milestone. The thing is when you bought the phone it was probably running 2.1 eclair or 2.0 which uses very little ram: it had the least features (no jit or a2sd) hence it's the lightest on ram. However you have to understand that since froyo google has been trying to add more features to android and use exisitng resources to boost performance and since Google's flagship phone at the time of froyo was the nexus one (which had 512mb of ram whereas the milestoen only has 256mb of ram) and so they used ram to boost performance which is essentiall what JIT is. So there's an issue. The milestone is already short on ram and 2.2/2.3 uses more ram which is why they are sometimes slower (not all, something like froyo mod or cronos ginger/ho!no! is bloody fast) which is why you have less free ram.
but over to MIUI which has even MORE features than stock gb which means it uses up even MORE ram which is why you have so little free ram. use this script, it should help the ram issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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Thank you very much, so now I got 2 options ,right? I can flash froyo mod instead of MIUI or I can use the script to icrease ram a little bit huh?
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Thank you very much, so now I got 2 options ,right? I can flash froyo mod instead of MIUI or I can use the script to icrease ram a little bit huh?
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well yes and no. in my experience you can have miui with zepplinrox's script but still only have around 30-45mb of free ram whereas on froyomod you can get far more.
I liked using cronos ginger but the thing is feeyo's roms have a lot of bugs and arent updated to the latest sources which is why they are usually a little bit behind.
Cronos GB 1.5.0 is really fast. And yes, it has bugs, but nothing impossible to live with.
This is the fastest GB rom I've tried ..
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well yes and no. in my experience you can have miui with zepplinrox's script but still only have around 30-45mb of free ram whereas on froyomod you can get far more.
I liked using cronos ginger but the thing is feeyo's roms have a lot of bugs and arent updated to the latest sources which is why they are usually a little bit behind.
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With the script, you can use slot 3 to choose how much free ram you want.
Performance levels out beyond 30mb free tho.
And android will make more ram available if needed anyway.
I use Froyomod and I have around 37 MB free after startup. I tried to play Cut the rope but it keeps killing it. Also happens with Google Maps. Could this be a problem of low memory?
ruisan said:
I use Froyomod and I have around 37 MB free after startup. I tried to play Cut the rope but it keeps killing it. Also happens with Google Maps. Could this be a problem of low memory?
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yea it is. but if your on froyomod why not try to use advanced task killer and zepplinrox's supercharger
When I bought my galaxy s, it was on a 2.2 rom, though I don't remember the exact name. After a while, I flashed it with ZSJPK 2.2.1. Then, I went on to use JVP, JVQ and now, JVR. However, I felt that 2.2 and ZSJPK were both smoother and less laggy than JVP and JVQ. JVR is nearly as smooth as the two froyos, but it's RAM drops to very low levels, 70-80Mb after a day's usage. So, my question is, does anyone else experience such a thing in which their froyo roms were faster/less laggy? Or could it be that I somehow missed something when flashing the gingerbread roms? Thanks.
Why do you care about the RAM being "so low". Memory management works different in Linux than on MS systems. Android (or the underlying linux kernel) keeps apps in memory as long as possible to make a re-start of the app faster. As soon as the memory is needed by a different app, the memory is freed anyway.
My desktop with 4 GB RAM does the same on Linux: 64 MB are free, but if I take buffers and cache into account 1900 MB are available in case an application needs it....
I experienced a better battery life with smoother operation in every day use after installing GB (I guess first that was I9000XXJVK). This got only better with JVH, JVO, JVP, JVQ, JVR and now JVS.
I wouldn't care about the RAM, actually. But whenever my free RAM drops to below 80Mb or so, the phone begins to lag, because it has to close certain processes in order to start up the apps. Also, when the RAM is low and when I try to play certain HD games like the gameloft ones, the phone sometimes crashes.
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Why do you care about the RAM being "so low". Memory management works different in Linux than on MS systems. Android (or the underlying linux kernel) keeps apps in memory as long as possible to make a re-start of the app faster. As soon as the memory is needed by a different app, the memory is freed anyway.
My desktop with 4 GB RAM does the same on Linux: 64 MB are free, but if I take buffers and cache into account 1900 MB are available in case an application needs it....
I experienced a better battery life with smoother operation in every day use after installing GB (I guess first that was I9000XXJVK). This got only better with JVH, JVO, JVP, JVQ, JVR and now JVS.
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An Android with free ram available is still much faster than an Android phone that continues to swap.
I've done tests in regards to this in System Panel. Plus on occasion whenever I clear my Dalvic Cache, I usually double my memory in System Panel, and my phone feels like "day 1" fast...
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An Android with free ram available is still much faster than an Android phone that continues to swap.
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Where should the mem be swapped to? Android does not swap if there is no swap device or file specified.
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Where should the mem be swapped to? Android does not swap if there is no swap device or file specified.
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I'm saying that there is a benefit to freeing up ram...
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I'm saying that there is a benefit to freeing up ram...
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Yeah, it's beneficial to have free RAM rather than to have to free up the RAM when you need it. If you already have free RAM, running a new application is fast, but if you don't, you cpu needs to free some RAM first before it can load a new application, hence causing some lagginess. That's what I meant when I said that froyo seemed faster, especially after a day of usage.
I was using Froyo for quite a long time before giving a chance to Gingerbread. And I must say I regret I didn't give a chance to GB earlier as the phone is "flying" now. At least for me it was a good switch. When I bought my SGS it was on 2.1 (Eclair) which was a real laggy disaster.
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I was using Froyo for quite a long time before giving a chance to Gingerbread. And I must say I regret I didn't give a chance to GB earlier as the phone is "flying" now. At least for me it was a good switch. When I bought my SGS it was on 2.1 (Eclair) which was a real laggy disaster.
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Which froyo build were you using? Because the earlier froyos, ie 2.2, were rather lousy. I'm comparing 2.2.1 with 2.3.4
Anyone encounter the same issue? Used to have around 180mb before upgrade. Now most times less than
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Not less than 100MB but also less than with Froyo.
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Anyone encounter the same issue? Used to have around 180mb before upgrade. Now most times less than
100Mb
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Get a task manager and kill some tasks then, after killing tasks and only excluding stuff i need, eg. messenger app, music ect i get 205mb free ram and never go below 100mb.
I did still?at most 120 only.
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OMG guys, why don't people get this:
Free RAM is wasted RAM.
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OMG guys, why don't people get this:
Free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Because your phone slows down when it gets below 100mb, don't bother arguing that because i know from experience that my o2x slows down and becomes choppy when the free ram goes below 100mb, because there is so much crap stored in memory.
If i need something to run ill run it and leave it there and exclude it from task manager but other wise its no use.
Its also a huge battery drain to have so many apps running that you are not using so that's a pretty stupid statement...."free ram is waste ram" lol wtf...., your battery life must be really long.
As for OP, i suggest you install a better rom, i use topigigis 1.7 rom and after killing a bunch of tasks i get up to 205mb free, altho this gets less the longer it goes without a reboot, so try rebooting and hen killing some useless tasks and see what your ram level is at.
eraldo said:
Because your phone slows down when it gets below 100mb, don't bother arguing that because i know from experience that my o2x slows down and becomes choppy when the free ram goes below 100mb, because there is so much crap stored in memory.
If i need something to run ill run it and leave it there and exclude it from task manager but other wise its no use.
Its also a huge battery drain to have so many apps running that you are not using so that's a pretty stupid statement...."free ram is waste ram" lol wtf...., your battery life must be really long.
As for OP, i suggest you install a better rom, i use topigigis 1.7 rom and after killing a bunch of tasks i get up to 205mb free, altho this gets less the longer it goes without a reboot, so try rebooting and hen killing some useless tasks and see what your ram level is at.
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Free ram is wasted ram. And taskkillers will only make you battery life worse if not some app is using all the cpu. The reason RAM is used by android is to keep apps preloaded, for better launch times. The built in task handler is all what is needed. My phone runs blazingly fast at all times, and I don't use a taskkiller.
yupe.. Mine is mostly below 100mb.. 70mb on average. but it's smoother than froyo with 140mb.. list of applications and files are faster to load and smoother.. so i have no complain at all.
I'm also experiencing the lower free memory in the default configuration with GB compared to Froyo. Although I'm not trying to get as much free RAM as possible (because I support the reasons given above for usage of the RAM, having apps in there doesn't mean that they're running) I'm still curious where the missing amount of memory went... Does anybody have any clue what was introduced or changed with GB that could use up about 70MB?
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Free ram is wasted ram. And taskkillers will only make you battery life worse if not some app is using all the cpu. The reason RAM is used by android is to keep apps preloaded, for better launch times. The built in task handler is all what is needed. My phone runs blazingly fast at all times, and I don't use a taskkiller.
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Oh really and what is your logic for thinking having no unused apps running will use more battery than having lads running.....you make no sense an have no logic or fact to back up such a ridiculas assumption.
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kiljacken said:
Free ram is wasted ram. And taskkillers will only make you battery life worse if not some app is using all the cpu. The reason RAM is used by android is to keep apps preloaded, for better launch times. The built in task handler is all what is needed. My phone runs blazingly fast at all times, and I don't use a taskkiller.
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Clearly you've been on cm7 so long you forgot how bad stock is..
Stock firmware for my phone was horrible and backgrounding was working for only seconds due to lack of ram, Opera would never background, always a new boot.
Cm7 > stock
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I m on stock v20 ROM. Sometime my fone will b sluggish and it seems like e low RAM is causing it. Also wondering where e RAM went After upgrading.
use supercharger
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
And there's a bug in original stock kernel about memory management, horse power kernels are better for that.
Its not just about the rom your choosing its about the kernel, flash a good kernel and it will improve memory usage.
So does flashing custom kernel void e warranty and does it need rooting? Which is e best kernel for stock ROM v20?
Thanks
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So does flashing custom kernel void e warranty and does it need rooting? Which is e best kernel for stock ROM v20?
Thanks
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Yes most of the time and Yes. Some providers accept phone customization in warranty, ask yours.
If you have v20L you only have Horse Power kernel (Neoblaze seems bootloop) + Power pack 7 (mandatory, orbootloop, see dedicated threads).
If I reflash my phone using one of the original images availabe and reset it, is there any chance for the provider to detect previous flash operations?
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Yes most of the time and Yes. Some providers accept phone customization in warranty, ask yours.
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So does flashing custom kernel void e warranty and does it need rooting? Which is e best kernel for stock ROM v20?
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Befor i flashed hp sr2 i had 70 to 90 mb free ram now i had 130 to 150 free ram and my baterry seems better.
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I'd tend to relate the better battery life to the new kernel than the increased free ram. I'm on RC9 (w. PP7, no init.d-scripts) and my LGOS reaches almost two days of battery standby with ~50-60MB free RAM.
luka2858 said:
Befor i flashed hp sr2 i had 70 to 90 mb free ram now i had 130 to 150 free ram and my baterry seems better.
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Hi All,
Bought a new Xperia SP! Love it but have 2 issues:\
1) The LED notification for missed calls not working (rest is working)
2) The ram is showing as 786 MB only!
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Hi All,
Bought a new Xperia SP! Love it but have 2 issues:\
1) The LED notification for missed calls not working (rest is working)
2) The ram is showing as 786 MB only!
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1) +1 (a bug. I believe if you disable STAMINA power mode it works, but haven't tried it)
2) +1 (the rest probably consumed by Android system)
Pete_S said:
1) 2) +1 (the rest probably consumed by Android system)
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So any app that can show the total RAM?
ankushkool said:
Hi All,
Bought a new Xperia SP! Love it but have 2 issues:\
1) The LED notification for missed calls not working (rest is working)
2) The ram is showing as 786 MB only!
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CPU-Z for android will show ur full hardware specs..
Here is a screenshot form CPU-Z it shows only 766MB Can others having SP check!
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ankushkool said:
Here is a screenshot form CPU-Z it shows only 766MB Can others having SP check!
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Same here CPU-Z does indeed only show 756MB RAM.
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Any one know how to free up more RAM without root. My free RAM is very low and I think thats the reason why Firefox crashes randomly.
And where is the rest of my 1GB RAM?
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melek-taus said:
Any one know how to free up more RAM without root. My free RAM is very low and I think thats the reason why Firefox crashes randomly.
And where is the rest of my 1GB RAM?
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Actually, I'd also like to know what's using the remaining 200MB or so of the 1GB RAM. Is it the system? Surely the system is already included in the used RAM indicator? Or maybe it's for the graphics?
I do find it annoying that with its advertised 1GB RAM the SP all too easily appears to run out of memory. Loading up complex pages in Opera set for "desktop" user agent frequently causes background apps to be kicked out. Sometimes even Opera appears to be booted out for using too much RAM! This shouldn't happen on a modern 1GB RAM device, when there's still around 200MB RAM free, and a further 200+MB "missing". It's a bit of a joke really... Now I can begin to understand why the latest hardware has 2GB.
Seems 200MB is reserved for the system. And also XBMC seems to use alot of cache memory. Removed XBMC and turned of alot of Sony apps and now I have a decent amount of RAM left.
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Here
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So, I think everyone still dunno what the "1GB" RAM mean...
usually in android phone, the 1GB RAM was not exactly 1GB, normal scaling is 7XXMB user and system access RAM + 2XX MB system hardware reserve RAM (usually ur GPU - it's like the old Intel GMA)
Then 7XXMB user and system access RAM is further separate to user access RAM and system process reserve RAM (just see how's they scaling)
And it same as other market advertise 2GB, 512MB, etc Android Phone, even S4's user and system access RAM also approx 1.8GB instead of "2GB"
U all are still haven see how's Samsung stock ROM make their RAM usage always in busy usage (If someone got use S Advance with updated JB Stock ROM then u should know)
If got time u all should read this:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...2-you-happy-about-amount-ram-galaxy-s4-2.html
melek-taus said:
Seems 200MB is reserved for the system. And also XBMC seems to use alot of cache memory. Removed XBMC and turned of alot of Sony apps and now I have a decent amount of RAM left.
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What's xbmc?
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XBMC is Xbox Media Center. It was first developed for the original Xbox.
Now its available for all platforms like Android, , Windows, Linux even Rasperry Pi. Its a complete media center solution with any function you can think of.
Google it, its really interesting. It has full media functionality with its own UI. You can watch movies, stream tv shows through internet, listen to music, run software, its almost a stand alone operating system.
Under Android you can even use your phone as a remote/ keyboard to navigate through XBMC while having it installed on an Android tv stick.
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unbeleivable!
i got the xpeia sp recently and im a bit sad about the multitasking of a mid range android phone and i want to find a solution, i have another really cheap chinese quad core phone and the ram is 1gb too, in the info at antutu benchmark it says 971 mb whereas the sp says 766! im sure there is a solution out there to make the most of the ram and get better multitasking, can anyone with cyanogenmod rom tell us their ram value please?
melek-taus said:
Seems 200MB is reserved for the system. And also XBMC seems to use alot of cache memory. Removed XBMC and turned of alot of Sony apps and now I have a decent amount of RAM left.
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also some of it s used by the Adreno 320 GPU.
both phones when empty from bloatware, the xperia sp free ram is 260mb and the chinese phone is 422 mb, why?!!!! i want the value to change at antutu benchmark device info to 971 mb instead of 766 mb is there a way??
We have 1 GB of RAM. Aprox 200/250 mb is for system. For:
- Camera; filming does not work without enough RAM
- GPU; If you have a PC and you game a lot you know what i mean
Also for being able to connect, and have the system running smooth there is RAM needed.
About your LED issue:
Stamina mode enabled? If yes disable it or download illumination bar pro
It has been stated many times by sony that stanima mode disables the LED to save battery
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both phones when empty from bloatware, the xperia sp free ram is 260mb and the chinese phone is 422 mb, why?!!!! i want the value to change at antutu benchmark device info to 971 mb instead of 766 mb is there a way??
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The Chinese "Super" phone you refer to more than likely has no manufacturer skin like Touchwiz etc, and zero bloatware thats why it has more free ram.
with a MTK Cortex A7 processor, as for performance goes it cannot compare to the Xperia SP.
you've already been told some of the Ram is reserved for the GPU/Imaging camera system etc.
tweaking androids internal Minfree values can with multi-tasking.
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Hello, i bought the phone (used) a few days ago. it's great.
just wondering, there's a pretty low amount of available ram (~300-350 somtimes 400 after cleaning memory).
currently im running stock 4.1.2
so, if i will flash any cm rom or any other rom, will there be more ram available?
or that's it?
thanks in advance.
yoeleli said:
Hello, i bought the phone (used) a few days ago. it's great.
just wondering, there's a pretty low amount of available ram (~300-350 somtimes 400 after cleaning memory).
currently im running stock 4.1.2
so, if i will flash any cm rom or any other rom, will there be more ram available?
or that's it?
thanks in advance.
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why do you need more free ram? more free ram is useless, system uses ram to cache programes to start faster.
moneyvirus said:
why do you need more free ram? more free ram is useless, system uses ram to cache programes to start faster.
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Because it's frustrating to close apps\clean ram all the time. it would be nice to have about 50-100mb for extra free ram.
yoeleli said:
Hello, i bought the phone (used) a few days ago. it's great.
just wondering, there's a pretty low amount of available ram (~300-350 somtimes 400 after cleaning memory).
currently im running stock 4.1.2
so, if i will flash any cm rom or any other rom, will there be more ram available?
or that's it?
thanks in advance.
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that's it
moneyvirus told you right...
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Free RAM is wasted RAM... RAM is way faster that the usual storage. That's why the system preloads as many apps as possible, to start up directly, without loading too long. So, the more used RAM you have, the better. Linux is not Windows. Windows is known for its bad RAM management.
Also, 300Mb is quite a lot BTW regarding 1GB total RAM. Killing apps to "safe" memory is the worst thing you can do. Let the system decide what's needed and what's not.
Also, Questions belong into the Q&A section. Thread moved.
my friend , android works that way. it caches everything to ram so that is faster. you dont need more ram and of course u dont need any task manager to close the background apps. the system on its own knows when to free ram and use it somewhere else. if the case is u need to play a game which need more available ram than the phone can have ( for example lets say the phone needs at least 200 ram for the basic system functions so u have available 800 ram and the game needs 1gb ram then thats another case.) u can install swapper to use some disk space to do what ram does. thats all. but if u dont need or play such game then no need for swapper , no need to clear cache and no need to close background apps. if u think u will get more battery life like that , its also wrong. there is another way to get battery life. thats all. hope i covered u.
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my friend , android works that way. it caches everything to ram so that is faster. you dont need more ram and of course u dont need any task manager to close the background apps. the system on its own knows when to free ram and use it somewhere else. if the case is u need to play a game which need more available ram than the phone can have ( for example lets say the phone needs at least 200 ram for the basic system functions so u have available 800 ram and the game needs 1gb ram then thats another case.) u can install swapper to use some disk space to do what ram does. thats all. but if u dont need or play such game then no need for swapper , no need to clear cache and no need to close background apps. if u think u will get more battery life like that , its also wrong. there is another way to get battery life. thats all. hope i covered u.
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You told that there is no need for task manager , so what's the use of these many task manager apps ??
I'm really confused , because as I clean my ram the speed boosts .
So we should not use task manger apps ?!!
And sth else is that , why our ram capacity is 977 instead of 1024 ?
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jasin91 said:
You told that there is no need for task manager , so what's the use of these many task manager apps ??
I'm really confused , because as I clean my ram the speed boosts .
So we should not use task manger apps ?!!
And sth else is that , why our ram capacity is 977 instead of 1024 ?
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where do u see speedboost when you clean ram in android ? Really ?
the only case this can happen is only if u play for example one of my favorites : dungeon hunter 4 and forget to close the app. At least for some time until the os decides that ok u just forgot it there and close it , u have a decrease of fps at your phone ... eh ok if u forget to push the little button to close an app that needs a big amount of resources, then the task manager is usefull. The apps are apps. There are also 10 different apps to sync google contacs but why use them if google contacts are syncing by default if u dont close the sync ?
lol thanks now i understand
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this is normal with 4.1.2, I checked a Iconia tab with 4.1.1 and used less ram, V4.1.2 doesnt manage right the ram... try to rollback to 4.0.3 v10f or search a CM10.1 or custom rom which uses less ram :laugh:
no need more ram if you want more use swapp