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My parents are considering ditching VZW and going with T-Mobile. The bring-your-own-phone discount T-Mo offers is really appealing to them, and my dad's a huge Moto fan (IDK why). So, that said, i went poking around, and found a couple reviews that stated they were pentaband phones? I know Pentaband usually means T-Mobile 4G-friendly (EG galaxy nexus) but i really wanted to confirm that they would work on T-Mo at full speed before recommending either of the phones.
According to GSMArena, these are the bands the phones have:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
So... how would they fare?
Thanks in advance!
Is the phone unlocked? My Droid 3 had to be flashed to even work on gsm plus unlocked. It will work with 3g if you live in an area on air portal.de.
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They're European Sim-free phones, so yes, they're unlocked. The Razor I is already out, the Razor HD is coming soon.
mtmerrick said:
They're European Sim-free phones, so yes, they're unlocked. The Razor I is already out, the Razor HD is coming soon.
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It doesn't have the 1700 mHz band, so unless you live in an area that T-Mobile has completed (or is in the process of), the refarming of the 1900 mHz band to,HSPA+ you will only get EDGE data speeds. Calls and texts will work fine.
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Also that is not a pentaband phone it's quadband.
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So for future reference, the 1700 MHz band is important one? Is that single band used for 3G and HSPA+ "4G", or just one of them?
mtmerrick said:
So for future reference, the 1700 MHz band is important one? Is that single band used for 3G and HSPA+ "4G", or just one of them?
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T-Mobile uses both the 1700mHz and the 2100mHz bands, you need both to get "4G" or HSPA+ (since HSPA+ is really 3.5G you will fall back to EDGE is the phone is not compatible.)
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Babydoll25 said:
T-Mobile uses both the 1700mHz and the 2100mHz bands, you need both to get "4G" or HSPA+ (since HSPA+ is really 3.5G you will fall back to EDGE is the phone is not compatible.)
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Thank you, I've been wondering this for a while
*bookmarks page for future reference*
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Thank you, I've been wondering this for a while
*bookmarks page for future reference*
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One is the downlink, the other the uplink. I believe the 1700mHz band is the downlink.
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Babydoll25 said:
One is the downlink, the other the uplink. I believe the 1700mHz band is the downlink.
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Correct. Thankfully the refarm is going well and it should be hitting the top 100 markets soon. I'm really excited for Wichita getting this because I'm stuck on edge.
MrObvious said:
Correct. Thankfully the refarm is going well and it should be hitting the top 100 markets soon. I'm really excited for Wichita getting this because I'm stuck on edge.
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They have already lit up the 1900mHz band in parts of brooklyn and manhattan (nyc). Since I live in Jersey it shouldn't be too long before I have HSPA+ on my One X....
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Any news of the network updates coming to Southern California?
mtmerrick said:
Any news of the network updates coming to Southern California?
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Check hofo (howardforums). They have a thread dedicated to people posting updates about the refarm.
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So-cal has been getting some refarming already.
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So that means the Xperia T will work on non-refarmed areas, on '4G'?
Here are the bands, as according to gsmarena:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
mtmerrick said:
So that means the Xperia T will work on non-refarmed areas, on '4G'?
Here are the bands, as according to gsmarena:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
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Whoa very nice you can use either AT&T or T-Mobile for 3G without worrying about refarming.
Sry I hope i dont double post here cause i dont have the timd to read the full thread just my two cents:
Motorola RAZR i
No 4G at all
Unlocked and carrier free
Will it be released in the US? I thought it wouldnt...
And when amazon germany is correct it will be released on 15., two days later i will get it
Again sry for (possible) double posting
//Robert
1) Razr i has, AFAIK, AT&T HSPA+ "4G" radios, just no LTE
2) sim free version, yes
3) In the US we get the Droid Razr M, which is identical except for its S4 CPU and VZW LTE radios. Doesn't stop us from importing the GSM Razr i tho
4) I thought it was already out?
Uk only so far i think, France and Germany up next. Sweden seems to be a no show
Thanks for correcting me
Though im on vacation till 18th so i will get it on 20th when i meet a friend who ordered it for me :/
//Robert
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Hi,
As the title implies, is the htc one dev phone quad band? and if not, is any htc one quad band? of course they are locked down to use certain frequencies and what not to specific carriers.
Thing Im getting at is... if it indeed does have quad band then there is room for devs to find a way for people like me to get LTE on t-mobile and not just 3G. Unfortunately, the devs phone tend to favor ATT and leaves t-mobile hanging when it comes to 4G.
Many thanks,
Tim
Becool0130 said:
Hi,
As the title implies, is the htc one dev phone quad band? and if not, is any htc one quad band? of course they are locked down to use certain frequencies and what not to specific carriers.
Thing Im getting at is... if it indeed does have quad band then there is room for devs to find a way for people like me to get LTE on t-mobile and not just 3G. Unfortunately, the devs phone tend to favor ATT and leaves t-mobile hanging when it comes to 4G.
Many thanks,
Tim
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I have been told that when a radio is available then we could flash it. But I haven't been able to confirm this and I too want to know about this. 1700mhz band is what Tmobile uses. This really could be the difference between me getting an S4 and this phone.
I believe that the dev edition out of the box will not support 1700 for TMO but I also believe that is a software limitation and not a hardware one as I believe it is the same hardware as the at&t version.
MG
Becool0130 said:
Hi,
As the title implies, is the htc one dev phone quad band? and if not, is any htc one quad band? of course they are locked down to use certain frequencies and what not to specific carriers.
Thing Im getting at is... if it indeed does have quad band then there is room for devs to find a way for people like me to get LTE on t-mobile and not just 3G. Unfortunately, the devs phone tend to favor ATT and leaves t-mobile hanging when it comes to 4G.
Many thanks,
Tim
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Dev version has same frequency as AT&T version
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE:
US (AT&T): 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
3G for Tmobile is not supported but I guess 4G is supported because it has AWS
1900 mhz is t-mobile 3G network it will have 3G but no 4G. Unless the devs get there hands on the 1700 soon.
My other question still applies from above. Is this phone indeed a quad band one?
Thanks
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Becool0130 said:
1900 mhz is t-mobile 3G network it will have 3G but no 4G. Unless the devs get there hands on the 1700 soon.
My other question still applies from above. Is this phone indeed a quad band one?
Thanks
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Anyone know for a fact that a radio flash would enable 1700?
I couldn't find exact specs, but the report on ifixit (can't post link) tells that there is a Qualcomm MDM9215M Communications Chip for GSM/UMTS/LTE. The other chip TriQuint TQM7M9023 is for Quad Band usage, GSM etc.
I am trying to find out, which Frequencies this chip supports.
I want to buy the US Dev Edition 64GB for use in Europe and I am still hoping that flashing a new radio rom is a work-around to get it working everywhere.
Maybe somebody has already done it?
Becool0130 said:
1900 mhz is t-mobile 3G network it will have 3G but no 4G. Unless the devs get there hands on the 1700 soon.
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It's actually 7-band (700/850/900/AWS/1800/1900/2100)... but not all bands are available for all technologies. Here is what you get:
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz - This will give you 3G support on AT&T and MAY give you 3G/4G support on T-Mobile, but only in the limited areas where T-Mobile has already migrated their 1900MHz spectrum to HSPA+. In most areas, their 3G/4G service is limited to the AWS band which the HTC One Developer Edition only supports for LTE.
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz - This will give you 2G/2.5G support on pretty much every GSM provider.
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz - This will give you 4G LTE support on AT&T and T-Mobile.
Cloudscout said:
It's actually 7-band (700/850/900/AWS/1800/1900/2100)... but not all bands are available for all technologies. Here is what you get:
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz - This will give you 3G support on AT&T and MAY give you 3G/4G support on T-Mobile, but only in the limited areas where T-Mobile has already migrated their 1900MHz spectrum to HSPA+. In most areas, their 3G/4G service is limited to the AWS band which the HTC One Developer Edition only supports for LTE.
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz - This will give you 2G/2.5G support on pretty much every GSM provider.
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz - This will give you 4G LTE support on AT&T and T-Mobile.
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Hi, T-mobile uses band 4 via 1700/2100. Also the 3G support. And tmobile HSPA must use 1700/2100 BOTH or it wont work which makes T-mobile 3g unavailable till 1900 is completed.
But perhaps when it says "AWS" maybe it means band 4 ? is that what your referring to? if so I stand corrected. Then again, LTE 4G is in so little places now.. lets not compute it -_-
Correct. Band 4 is AWS.
Anybody knows if i could use LTE in Spain with my Dev Edition
The One Developer Edition also includes support for 850/1900/2100 MHz HSPA and 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz 4G LTE connectivity
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Is it possible to flash TMobile Baseband on to HTC One (brand-less GSM)
In asia, Taiwan, sells the Original HTC One.
Was hoping, I can flash TMO Baseband onto Original HTC One, purchased in Taiwan. Use in USA for 3G and LTE.
Is there a way to make this happen? or are there a Flashable Zip already available, I did not find?
If its a regular HTC one yes you can flash different baseband/radio. You will not however unlock any frequencies.
If you use T-Mobile on an international, developer, or any HTC one not sold by T-Mobile here in the states you will only pick up 3G in areas that have been reformed.
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ekoandrew said:
Is it possible to flash TMobile Baseband on to HTC One (brand-less GSM)
In asia, Taiwan, sells the Original HTC One.
Was hoping, I can flash TMO Baseband onto Original HTC One, purchased in Taiwan. Use in USA for 3G and LTE.
Is there a way to make this happen? or are there a Flashable Zip already available, I did not find?
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The Asia models are very different than other models and have a different frequency set for which they are designed. I don't think it will ever pick up AWS (which I think is what you want), even if some other models will.
Tachi91 said:
If its a regular HTC one yes you can flash different baseband/radio. You will not however unlock any frequencies.
If you use T-Mobile on an international, developer, or any HTC one not sold by T-Mobile here in the states you will only pick up 3G in areas that have been reformed.
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stevedebi said:
The Asia models are very different than other models and have a different frequency set for which they are designed. I don't think it will ever pick up AWS (which I think is what you want), even if some other models will.
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Meaning, in the past like HTC Desire HD, which I had. There are cooked roms, and flash baseband. Unlock frequency to work pretty much any where.
HTC Original from Asia, which no longer possible.
Can you guys tell me, what t-mobile baseband frequency runs on?
Will the below work on TMOBILE?
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
HSDPA 900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
Thanks in advance.
Andrew
ekoandrew said:
Meaning, in the past like HTC Desire HD, which I had. There are cooked roms, and flash baseband. Unlock frequency to work pretty much any where.
HTC Original from Asia, which no longer possible.
Can you guys tell me, what t-mobile baseband frequency runs on?
Will the below work on TMOBILE?
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
HSDPA 900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
Thanks in advance.
Andrew
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I'm not sure where you got those numbers, but everything except the LTE should work. T-Mobile LTE is 1700. However, having 1700 and 2100 is not the same as having 1700/2100 AWS.
Not sure if this is still relevant but my HTC Dev edition clearly uses tmo 4g downloading over 25 Mbps and upping about the same
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Hi guys need a little bit enlightment,i had the one branded by verizone,and it has different lte frequency in my country,so it will pick only 3g signal.
If i flashing WWE radio will it gives me lte/4g sognal?in my country only had 850/900/1800/2300 frequency meanwhile my one only had 700mhz.
meant model Z.........So I just read about this model and see it has AWS and 700 Mhz for LTE - does this mean if I get this phone it will work on AT&T LTE in the U.S? Anyone tried this yet?
also.....Negri Electronics has a unlocked Z Tmobile in black that says it has 700Mhz and AWS LTE bands but they say it can only be used outside U.S. (they list it as international) that AT&T would block it? WTF over?
i dont think at&t will block it. if it supports the at&t lte bands it will get lte but there are multiple lte bands for at&t so if it only supports one of them lte will be spotty depending on the area the phone is used in
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i dont think at&t will block it. if it supports the at&t lte bands it will get lte but there are multiple lte bands for at&t so if it only supports one of them lte will be spotty depending on the area the phone is used in
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Yeah, I don't know......I chatted with a rep there and all he would say is that you cannot use this in the U.S. - I asked if this is because tmobile has a contract w/ Sony and he said I'd have to ask Sony about that. It almost seems like that is what they have to say - but i'm wondering if it would work.
this is what the site says about the frequencies for this model:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network WCDMA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
i think other users in this forum are using one of the xperia z's with at&t
skinsfanbdh said:
i think other users in this forum are using one of the xperia z's with at&t
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Yeah, but are they getting LTE? Why the hell Sony chose to release the ZL with AT&T LTE frequencies but not the Z (at least not officially) is beyond me......
probably the same reason it took 6 months for tmobile to get it(which is the the one i have)
I already tried flashing 6616 baseband. Unfortunately, it doesn't have 700 band LTE. It is from Bell, even though they state that their 6616 has AWS and 700.
I'm currently using 6506 baseband but I can't get access to at&t LTE network.
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So, has anyone successfully gotten LTE on AT&T anywhere with the Xperia Z?
yes in So Cal on 1700 mhz towers only
keith777 said:
So, has anyone successfully gotten LTE on AT&T anywhere with the Xperia Z?
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I have successfully had LTE on AT&T in Southern California but that is the only location..
Hello everybody!
I have a Sprint HTC One but I dont need CDMA because I use this phone in GSM mode with other carrier on 850 Mhz band. I only get EDGE conection and I cant access to HSPA conection. I checked specifications for Sprint HTC One and they say that it doesnt support 850 Mhz band on 3G. But if the hardware is the same for all HTC One Models I think is possible activate HSPA 850Mhz radio frequency on Sprint HTC One just like AT&T HTC One, Can someone help me ?
If the band is not supported, it's not supported. Not all models are the same.
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