My parents are considering ditching VZW and going with T-Mobile. The bring-your-own-phone discount T-Mo offers is really appealing to them, and my dad's a huge Moto fan (IDK why). So, that said, i went poking around, and found a couple reviews that stated they were pentaband phones? I know Pentaband usually means T-Mobile 4G-friendly (EG galaxy nexus) but i really wanted to confirm that they would work on T-Mo at full speed before recommending either of the phones.
According to GSMArena, these are the bands the phones have:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
So... how would they fare?
Thanks in advance!
Is the phone unlocked? My Droid 3 had to be flashed to even work on gsm plus unlocked. It will work with 3g if you live in an area on air portal.de.
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They're European Sim-free phones, so yes, they're unlocked. The Razor I is already out, the Razor HD is coming soon.
mtmerrick said:
They're European Sim-free phones, so yes, they're unlocked. The Razor I is already out, the Razor HD is coming soon.
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It doesn't have the 1700 mHz band, so unless you live in an area that T-Mobile has completed (or is in the process of), the refarming of the 1900 mHz band to,HSPA+ you will only get EDGE data speeds. Calls and texts will work fine.
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Also that is not a pentaband phone it's quadband.
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So for future reference, the 1700 MHz band is important one? Is that single band used for 3G and HSPA+ "4G", or just one of them?
mtmerrick said:
So for future reference, the 1700 MHz band is important one? Is that single band used for 3G and HSPA+ "4G", or just one of them?
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T-Mobile uses both the 1700mHz and the 2100mHz bands, you need both to get "4G" or HSPA+ (since HSPA+ is really 3.5G you will fall back to EDGE is the phone is not compatible.)
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Babydoll25 said:
T-Mobile uses both the 1700mHz and the 2100mHz bands, you need both to get "4G" or HSPA+ (since HSPA+ is really 3.5G you will fall back to EDGE is the phone is not compatible.)
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Thank you, I've been wondering this for a while
*bookmarks page for future reference*
mtmerrick said:
Thank you, I've been wondering this for a while
*bookmarks page for future reference*
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One is the downlink, the other the uplink. I believe the 1700mHz band is the downlink.
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Babydoll25 said:
One is the downlink, the other the uplink. I believe the 1700mHz band is the downlink.
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Correct. Thankfully the refarm is going well and it should be hitting the top 100 markets soon. I'm really excited for Wichita getting this because I'm stuck on edge.
MrObvious said:
Correct. Thankfully the refarm is going well and it should be hitting the top 100 markets soon. I'm really excited for Wichita getting this because I'm stuck on edge.
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They have already lit up the 1900mHz band in parts of brooklyn and manhattan (nyc). Since I live in Jersey it shouldn't be too long before I have HSPA+ on my One X....
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Any news of the network updates coming to Southern California?
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Any news of the network updates coming to Southern California?
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Check hofo (howardforums). They have a thread dedicated to people posting updates about the refarm.
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So-cal has been getting some refarming already.
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So that means the Xperia T will work on non-refarmed areas, on '4G'?
Here are the bands, as according to gsmarena:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
mtmerrick said:
So that means the Xperia T will work on non-refarmed areas, on '4G'?
Here are the bands, as according to gsmarena:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
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Whoa very nice you can use either AT&T or T-Mobile for 3G without worrying about refarming.
Sry I hope i dont double post here cause i dont have the timd to read the full thread just my two cents:
Motorola RAZR i
No 4G at all
Unlocked and carrier free
Will it be released in the US? I thought it wouldnt...
And when amazon germany is correct it will be released on 15., two days later i will get it
Again sry for (possible) double posting
//Robert
1) Razr i has, AFAIK, AT&T HSPA+ "4G" radios, just no LTE
2) sim free version, yes
3) In the US we get the Droid Razr M, which is identical except for its S4 CPU and VZW LTE radios. Doesn't stop us from importing the GSM Razr i tho
4) I thought it was already out?
Uk only so far i think, France and Germany up next. Sweden seems to be a no show
Thanks for correcting me
Though im on vacation till 18th so i will get it on 20th when i meet a friend who ordered it for me :/
//Robert
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I Wanted to know if lg optimus 2 x will work on at&t 3g and t mobile 3g .....someone selling 1 for 225 is that a good price?
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I know it might be late, but from GSMArena:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
as I posted in another thread...I was only able to get 2G(Edge) on my o2x when I used the phone on T-MOBILE in the US
mad_catmk2 said:
as I posted in another thread...I was only able to get 2G(Edge) on my o2x when I used the phone on T-MOBILE in the US
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Well, it depends on the type of o2x you have.
I have an SU660, which unlike what's written in the GSM Arena, does not have 1700 band. So, I learned the hard way and found out a little too late (which I also noted about this in another post) that mine cannot use 3G on T-mobile USA.
OP's O2X is P990, which should work on AT&T. See here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/37457-p999-vs-p990/
aragorn7 said:
Well, it depends on the type of o2x you have.
I have an SU660, which unlike what's written in the GSM Arena, does not have 1700 band. So, I learned the hard way and found out a little too late (which I also noted about this in another post) that mine cannot use 3G on T-mobile USA.
OP's O2X is P990, which should work on AT&T. See here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/37457-p999-vs-p990/
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Of course that's why I said 'on tmobile' in my post
And yeah it should work on AT&T
I am ready to buy the 64 mb Developer Edition but I want to make sure
this will work with the LTE USA bands.
My Nexus 4 does not. Experts Please advise.
Thank you in advance,
Charlie C
Yes works in ATT and T-Mobile. It says it on the spec page bud
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expertzero1 said:
Yes works in ATT and T-Mobile. It says it on the spec page bud
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Experto
On ALL LTE bands? Final question....
Thank you
Charlie
I don't have the specs off my head but 700, aws and others just check at the HTC store for the specs
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HTC One Developer Edition unboxing and hands-on VIDEO
Here is HTC One Developer Edition unboxing video.
In short yes it will work fine with both AT&T and TMO LTE bands.
It gets more complicated when talking about UMTS/HSPA bands on TMO but for LTE you're fine.
MG
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Yes works in ATT and T-Mobile. It says it on the spec page bud
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Are you sure about T-mo? From the T-mo site http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-5627
-Mobile’s 4G LTE network will operate on the same band as our 4G HSPA+ network, Band IV, which uses 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies to transmit data services.
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I hope I'm reading this wrong, I am by no means an expert, but if they use 1700/2100 as they do for HSPA (IE one frequency upstream the other down) then the dev edition will not get 4G LTE on TMOUS.
Sorry for Hijacking the thread a little.
Quote from Android Police
A reminder to T-Mobile customers: this model will not support HSPA+ in most markets, but should work on its growing LTE network where offered.
Also, to follow that up. If you are in a refarmed 1900mhz area it will work HSPA+
That is my take from the Article
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-pre-orders-open-up-to-u-s-customers-for-649/
SykesAT said:
I hope I'm reading this wrong, I am by no means an expert, but if they use 1700/2100 as they do for HSPA (IE one frequency upstream the other down) then the dev edition will not get 4G LTE on TMOUS.
Sorry for Hijacking the thread a little.
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The quote is correct but so is what rugmankc said. The short answer is that UMTS and LTE band support does not have to be the same.
If you want a few specifics, the dev and AT&T Ones support LTE band 4 (AWS, or 1700/2100MHz) but only have triband UMTS (850/1900/2100 iirc). The T-Mobile One supports quadband UMTS (all UMTS frequencies except 900MHz I think) as well as LTE band 4. They both support LTE band 17 (700MHz) also, not sure about others.
So in conclusion: ATT/dev One works on T-Mo LTE and refarmed 1900MHz HSPA+.
ATT
Does anyone actually have the HTC one developer Edition on ATT and is running LTE?
CC
Phone - HTC One unlocked developer edition 64GB
SIM - T-mobile Unlimited Data package
I had a Google Nexus S and never had problems with data connectivity in Manhattan, NYC. But with the HTC One, the network keeps switching between 3G, EDGE and HSPA. The result - very embarrassing data connectivity - browsing, news feed sync, podcasts, and such.
Has anyone else experienced this issue ? Is there a workaround ?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
... Srilesh
srilesh said:
Phone - HTC One unlocked developer edition 64GB
SIM - T-mobile Unlimited Data package
I had a Google Nexus S and never had problems with data connectivity in Manhattan, NYC. But with the HTC One, the network keeps switching between 3G, EDGE and HSPA. The result - very embarrassing data connectivity - browsing, news feed sync, podcasts, and such.
Has anyone else experienced this issue ? Is there a workaround ?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
... Srilesh
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Well surprise surprise...please get a TMobile version which has the AWS 1700 band for 3G/HSPA+ ... the developer edition doesn't have that band and you are got get bad reception/speed. If you are in 1900 refarmed market it will be ok but still that is not covering enough market.
People are trying flashing TMo radio to get the AWS 1700 band but i think it still doesn't work.
Developer edition is the same as the international edition. If the signal is week, it will fall back to the other speeds 3g. So yeah like kirdroid said get the tmo version for better compatibility
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shouldve gotten urself the u.s version buddy..think next time
kirdroid said:
Well surprise surprise...please get a TMobile version which has the AWS 1700 band for 3G/HSPA+ ... the developer edition doesn't have that band and you are got get bad reception/speed. If you are in 1900 refarmed market it will be ok but still that is not covering enough market.
People are trying flashing TMo radio to get the AWS 1700 band but i think it still doesn't work.
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Been going back and forth between the Dev version and the Tmo one, looking like I'll stick with Tmo then.
However, think there's any chance flashing a new radio will eventually be ironed out?
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Been going back and forth between the Dev version and the Tmo one, looking like I'll stick with Tmo then.
However, think there's any chance flashing a new radio will eventually be ironed out?
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I think eventually it will be figured out probably once s-off is achieved...but not sure when that will happen. I guess there is a thread in TMobile One forum tracking this.
kirdroid said:
Well surprise surprise...please get a TMobile version which has the AWS 1700 band for 3G/HSPA+ ... the developer edition doesn't have that band and you are got get bad reception/speed. If you are in 1900 refarmed market it will be ok but still that is not covering enough market.
People are trying flashing TMo radio to get the AWS 1700 band but i think it still doesn't work.
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Think there's a little misinformation there as the Dev Edition has the AWS 1700/2100 band... and definitely supports T-mobile's LTE bands.
Ah thanks! I'll hop on over there and see what people are saying.
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Think there's a little misinformation there as the Dev Edition has the AWS 1700/2100 band... and definitely supports T-mobile's LTE bands.
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Yes it has the LTE AWS bands but not the AWS 1700 HSPA+ bands to get the TMobile fast HSPA downloads, both are different.There is no misinformation ... lots of people get confused with the LTE bands. Below are the specs...the missing band is in the HSPA/WCDMA section, if it had the AWS 1700 band here then it was perfect.
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
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Yes it has the LTE AWS bands but not the AWS 1700 HSPA+ bands to get the TMobile fast HSPA downloads, both are different.There is no misinformation ... lots of people get confused with the LTE bands. Below are the specs...the missing band is in the HSPA/WCDMA section, if it had the AWS 1700 band here then it was perfect.
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
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Correct. If I it had the aws band I would have ordered the dev edition.
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AndrewAmazed said:
Think there's a little misinformation there as the Dev Edition has the AWS 1700/2100 band... and definitely supports T-mobile's LTE bands.
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The dev edition offered by HTC in the US has the below bands
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
I picked it up from the the HTC shopamerica page for HTC One Dev Edition
Kik, is right about it.
As you mentioned, I could wait for T-Mo LTE bands to be available in NYC or I could switch to ATT.
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Correct. If I it had the aws band I would have ordered the dev edition.
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Me too ... don't know why HTC had to leave out that.
kirdroid said:
Well surprise surprise...please get a TMobile version which has the AWS 1700 band for 3G/HSPA+ ... the developer edition doesn't have that band and you are got get bad reception/speed. If you are in 1900 refarmed market it will be ok but still that is not covering enough market.
People are trying flashing TMo radio to get the AWS 1700 band but i think it still doesn't work.
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Thank Kir. How do I find if NYC & Jersey City are refarmed to 1900 ?
NYC is refarmed. Everything will be better when LTE it's rolled out in June.
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NYC is refarmed. Everything will be better when LTE it's rolled out in June.
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Agree, will have to wait till June but I believe it will be a bit choppy for some months like it was for ATT.
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Been going back and forth between the Dev version and the Tmo one, looking like I'll stick with Tmo then.
However, think there's any chance flashing a new radio will eventually be ironed out?
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Yeah, stick with the T-mo version, but maybe you would want to check when T-mo rolls out LTE in your region. Definitely the storage 64GB is important as the HTC One does not have a SD slot.
hello00 said:
shouldve gotten urself the u.s version buddy..think next time
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Not sure what you mean by US version. Did you mean a carrier specific version bound by contract ?
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Not sure what you mean by US version. Did you mean a carrier specific version bound by contract ?
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exactly
srilesh said:
Not sure what you mean by US version. Did you mean a carrier specific version bound by contract ?
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Except its TMobile, so you're not bound by contract.
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Used code *#*#4636#*#* to display the phone information. And it allowed me to choose the type of network. It provides more than in the Settings - Mobile Data - Network Mode.
I have chosen GSM Auto PRL and I do see an improvement in the reception. Not sure how it works but can anyone explain?
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If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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Here's the information on the frequencies:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz
T-Mobile: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
Sprint: 700/AWS MHz
CDMA
Sprint: 800/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1/BC10)
LTE
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
T-Mobile: 700/AWS MHz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
josh030181 said:
If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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I don't think it will affect either phone at all. The iDEN network is for Nextel phones. The HTC One and Evo LTE use Sprint's CDMA network. The iDEN network and Sprint's CDMA network are completely separate. Shutting down the iDEN network simply means Nextel phones will no longer work. The shutdown will in no way prevent your One or Evo LTE from using LTE.
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If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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From what I've read since they announced Network Vision is that they will continue to build out LTE over the current 1900 mhz frequencies and convert the iDen Nextel towers to LTE to supplement the 1900 towers. I hope they continue building out both.
The higher frequencies (1900) are better at long distances, but poor at penetrating buildings. The lower Frequencies (800) are the opposite. It would make sense they build out both, except that the HTC One and other currently released phones don't support LTE on the 800 mhz towers. We would have to upgrade again when they release a phone supporting that to gain that support.
dumb question here, but is 4G LTE the same as just 4G?
does this phone get LTE? I see other phones that display LTE next to the signal bar, but this one doesn't
magnumtripod said:
dumb question here, but is 4G LTE the same as just 4G?
does this phone get LTE? I see other phones that display LTE next to the signal bar, but this one doesn't
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They are not the same.
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dumb question here, but is 4G LTE the same as just 4G?
does this phone get LTE? I see other phones that display LTE next to the signal bar, but this one doesn't
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When you see 4G in the sprint HTC one you are getting LTE its just the symbol sprint went with .. Verizon shows a 4GLTE symbol .. if you have an old galaxy s2 or evo 4G (OGEvO) that is running Wimax and is not LTE ...
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When you see 4G in the sprint HTC one you are getting LTE its just the symbol sprint went with .. Verizon shows a 4GLTE symbol .. if you have an old galaxy s2 or evo 4G (OGEvO) that is running Wimax and is not LTE ...
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thanks! exactly what I was looking for
So are our devices future proof for when they start building LTE on the 800 band. As in does anyone know if our Ones are capable of utilizing the 800 band when they switch it over to LTE
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bvang89 said:
So are our devices future proof for when they start building LTE on the 800 band. As in does anyone know if our Ones are capable of utilizing the 800 band when they switch it over to LTE
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Yes to 3g on 800 but no to LTE on 800. They haven't release a phone capable of 4G on 800 yet.
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If I'm correct
Sprint is going to use both 800 and 1900 for their 4G and will add 2500 Mhz later on.
"Sprint's current LTE band near 1900 MHz (band 25), the phones will also support LTE near 800 MHz and 2,500 MHz. The 800 band (also known as ESMR, BC10, and band 27) hosts iDEN - which is being phased out - and CDMA. Sprint has previously announced plans to deploy LTE technology in that band in early 2014. "
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=11771
Are our phones future proof? That's debatable. It all depends on which area you live in and their 4G deployment speed.
They will be able to use Sprint's crappy 3G speeds, which by that point should be less congested.
Lucky for you guys that actually get LTE. Here in AR I'm still stuck on their crappy 3g. I read their LTE gets around 10+ down where tested. That sounds freaking good enough to me at this point.
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Yes to 3g on 800 but no to LTE on 800. They haven't release a phone capable of 4G on 800 yet.
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Incorrect I'm afraid. Sprint will not be deploying 3G on the 800MHz band. Only CDMA voice and data and LTE, but no EV-DO (3G).
gk1984 said:
From what I've read since they announced Network Vision is that they will continue to build out LTE over the current 1900 mhz frequencies and convert the iDen Nextel towers to LTE to supplement the 1900 towers. I hope they continue building out both.
The higher frequencies (1900) are better at long distances, but poor at penetrating buildings. The lower Frequencies (800) are the opposite. It would make sense they build out both, except that the HTC One and other currently released phones don't support LTE on the 800 mhz towers. We would have to upgrade again when they release a phone supporting that to gain that support.
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Higher frequencies do not travel as far as low ones.
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Well, I've been misinformed. Thanks for correcting this.
Also, I've seen LTE on Sprint range from 2 Mbps to 12 Mbps. It depends on the area and I suppose signal strength. In one town near me, it's consistently around 4 Mbps, but less populated areas reaches much higher.
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Well, maybe 3G on 800mhz wasn't exactly misinformed. At least not completely.
http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/129995-fcc-approves-3g-and-4g
FCC approved Sprint to use that spectrum for 3G and 4G. This doesn't mean that Sprint will use it for 3G.
gk1984 said:
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EDIT:
Well, maybe 3G on 800mhz wasn't exactly misinformed. At least not completely.
http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/129995-fcc-approves-3g-and-4g
FCC approved Sprint to use that spectrum for 3G and 4G. This doesn't mean that Sprint will use it for 3G.
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This doesn't change what I indicated earlier, which is that Sprint won't be deploying 3G on 800MHz. Only CDMA 1xAdv and LTE will be deployed in that band.
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Yes to 3g on 800 but no to LTE on 800. They haven't release a phone capable of 4G on 800 yet.
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Correct. The band in question, LTE over 800MHz is LTE Band 26. There is no equipment available that uses this band.
It's actually a huge chunk of sub 1GHz spectrum, 35MHz of bandwidth (including guard bands.) If Sprint can actually deploy this properly, they have the ability to be the best carrier in the US. Here's hoping the network gets deployed by the time we need to upgrade our O1nes.
Reference:
http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php
So of all the Sprint phones on the market today, none of them have any advantage over the One as far as LTE bands go?
This would be good news to me, I thought I might not be able to connect to an LTE tower using a band the One can't use, but the GS4 could.
ajent said:
So of all the Sprint phones on the market today, none of them have any advantage over the One as far as LTE bands go?
This would be good news to me, I thought I might not be able to connect to an LTE tower using a band the One can't use, but the GS4 could.
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HTC One and S4 use the same bands, but also runs on Rev. 0 and Rev.A (Dunno where I read this)
If anything the One is more fine tuned to Sprint's network than the S4
gobaers said:
Correct. The band in question, LTE over 800MHz is LTE Band 26. There is no equipment available that uses this band.
It's actually a huge chunk of sub 1GHz spectrum, 35MHz of bandwidth (including guard bands.) If Sprint can actually deploy this properly, they have the ability to be the best carrier in the US. Here's hoping the network gets deployed by the time we need to upgrade our O1nes.
Reference:
http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php
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FYI Sprint does not own all 35MHz of that spectrum in that band.... Sprints 800Mhz LTE will be a 5x5MHz deployment so while it will help some on building penetration and some coverage, it won't be earth shattering and jaw dropping...
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Essentially I am on AT&T in Chicago, I would love to buy an International edition this go-a-round. Get the updates faster and not deal with AT&T bloat. However I am curious if any country other than the US will carry a LTE variant of the Note III that will support AT&T LTE out of the box (with the correct APN settings) or am I stuck buying the AT&T version if I want access to their LTE network?
Any insight would be awesome. Thanks...
Im 99% sure the exynos processor would only receive 3g on ATT whereas the qualcom gets the full 4g LTE.
Sent from my note 2 ya bish!
d12unk13astard said:
Im 99% sure the exynos processor would only receive 3g on ATT whereas the qualcom gets the full 4g LTE.
Sent from my note 2 ya bish!
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You are correct, the Exynos would get me HSPA only... I am hoping that countries other than the US will carry the Snapdragon 800 and that it would be AT&T compatible for LTE.
I edited the OP to clarify.
If its any help, my International Note 1 gets anywhere from 3Mbit to 13Mbit on HSPA+. I've tested with service from both AT&T (straight talk) and t-mobile now that t-mo has re-farmed the 1900mhz spectrum to hspa in my city.
Not sure how fast LTE is but probably at least twice as fast depending on congestion. The real question now is battery life between LTE version and exynos non LTE version.
And in my opinion, its very much worth having the international version. Big drawback though: NO samsung warranty in the USA. To some that might be an issue.
This has been discussed a lot. The international SD 800 variant, from what I understand, should be able to work on AT&T LTE. I guess we won' t know 100% for sure until someone in NA who uses AT&T orders the international SD800 and can confirm that it does work on AT&T LTE. As as this (and ability to root) is confirmed, I'll be ordering my N3.
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This has been discussed a lot. The international SD 800 variant, from what I understand, should be able to work on AT&T LTE. I guess we won' t know 100% for sure until someone in NA who uses AT&T orders the international SD800 and can confirm that it does work on AT&T LTE. As as this (and ability to root) is confirmed, I'll be ordering my N3.
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Thank you very much, my search didnt turn up that link. Much appreciated!!
LxMxFxD said:
If its any help, my International Note 1 gets anywhere from 3Mbit to 13Mbit on HSPA+. I've tested with service from both AT&T (straight talk) and t-mobile now that t-mo has re-farmed the 1900mhz spectrum to hspa in my city.
Not sure how fast LTE is but probably at least twice as fast depending on congestion. The real question now is battery life between LTE version and exynos non LTE version.
And in my opinion, its very much worth having the international version. Big drawback though: NO samsung warranty in the USA. To some that might be an issue.
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To give you and idea...I avg around 70mbps down on lte and have been over 100 lots of times...ill see around 25-30 upload. big diff betwee lte and h+
sent from my S3, S4 or Note2
Phone for ATT
I too am looking for purchasing a phone either T Mobile or International and using it on the AT&T network. It will be my first foray into GSM but so far I have found the following about the 3 different US GSM versions of the Note 3.
http://negrielectronics.com/
ATT
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
T Mobile
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100
N9005
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
What I don't know about GSM smartphones is if its possible to flash different modems and enable different bands/frequencies. They have the same SOC but such a variance in frequencies... to me it sounds like a modem mod, but I'm by no means an expert
Anyone whom knows more want to expand on my comments? It would be appreciated!
TerryNova said:
I too am looking for purchasing a phone either T Mobile or International and using it on the AT&T network. It will be my first foray into GSM but so far I have found the following about the 3 different US GSM versions of the Note 3.
http://negrielectronics.com/
ATT
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
T Mobile
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100
N9005
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
What I don't know about GSM smartphones is if its possible to flash different modems and enable different bands/frequencies. They have the same SOC but such a variance in frequencies... to me it sounds like a modem mod, but I'm by no means an expert
Anyone whom knows more want to expand on my comments? It would be appreciated!
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I have a pretty good feeling that you cant flash different modems, the modem needs to match the device or else it will brick. But then again I could be wrong.
I was quite delighted to find that there was LTE support for the Tmobile version
TerryNova said:
I too am looking for purchasing a phone either T Mobile or International and using it on the AT&T network. It will be my first foray into GSM but so far I have found the following about the 3 different US GSM versions of the Note 3.
http://negrielectronics.com/
T Mobile
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100
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daraj said:
I have a pretty good feeling that you cant flash different modems, the modem needs to match the device or else it will brick. But then again I could be wrong.
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we have been doing that for some times already since Galaxy S2 and Notes and Blazer phones were released.
people have been flashing back and forth HSPA vs LTE radio back and forth without a problem.
The only gotcha is Battery drain rate is horrendous on non-native phones using the other radio
some ROMs managed to optimize this to one degree or another, but it's definitely not the same as using a phone that was originally made for that radio.
But the point is, it's do-able and it works.
AllGamer said:
I was quite delighted to find that there was LTE support for the Tmobile version
Looks like the Tmobile version will support AT&T LTE bands. Correct?
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daraj said:
AllGamer said:
I was quite delighted to find that there was LTE support for the Tmobile version
Looks like the Tmobile version will support AT&T LTE bands. Correct?
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Yup...refer to my thorough research on the topic...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45746715#post45746715
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daraj said:
AllGamer said:
I was quite delighted to find that there was LTE support for the Tmobile version
Looks like the Tmobile version will support AT&T LTE bands. Correct?
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Negative. 700/1900 is what runs on ATT LTE. They just bought the lower band of 700 from Verizon.
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antiochasylum said:
daraj said:
Negative. 700/1900 is what runs on ATT LTE. They just bought the lower band of 700 from Verizon.
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Are you sure its not 700/1700 ?
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antiochasylum said:
Are you sure its not 700/1700 ?
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Crap you are correct. My fault. It is 700/1700 so the TMobile one will support ATT LTE.
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antiochasylum said:
daraj said:
Crap you are correct. My fault. It is 700/1700 so the TMobile one will support ATT LTE.
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Thats what I thought. Now If I can only find a cheap Tmobile version so I can buy full price I will then have LTE on att and an unlocked bootloader:good:
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daraj said:
antiochasylum said:
Thats what I thought. Now If I can only find a cheap Tmobile version so I can buy full price I will then have LTE on att and an unlocked bootloader:good:
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Are we sure the ATT's boot loader will be locked?
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daraj said:
Are we sure the ATT's boot loader will be locked?
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Considering whats happening with the s4 and their HTC line now and their press releases, I wouldn't have much hope.
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daraj said:
antiochasylum said:
Considering whats happening with the s4 and their HTC line now and their press releases, I wouldn't have much hope.
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Exact reason I'm holding out for Nexus 5 announcement.
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daraj said:
antiochasylum said:
Thats what I thought. Now If I can only find a cheap Tmobile version so I can buy full price I will then have LTE on att and an unlocked bootloader:good:
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^^^ this....... This seems to be the answer because of the locked boot on at&t's ....... So could I walk into a TMO store and tell them I wanna buy one for my prepaid sim.? That's probably what I'll end up doing. Looks like best buy will have the unlocked Octa.......
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
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