If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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josh030181 said:
If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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Here's the information on the frequencies:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz
T-Mobile: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
Sprint: 700/AWS MHz
CDMA
Sprint: 800/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1/BC10)
LTE
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
T-Mobile: 700/AWS MHz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
josh030181 said:
If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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I don't think it will affect either phone at all. The iDEN network is for Nextel phones. The HTC One and Evo LTE use Sprint's CDMA network. The iDEN network and Sprint's CDMA network are completely separate. Shutting down the iDEN network simply means Nextel phones will no longer work. The shutdown will in no way prevent your One or Evo LTE from using LTE.
josh030181 said:
If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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From what I've read since they announced Network Vision is that they will continue to build out LTE over the current 1900 mhz frequencies and convert the iDen Nextel towers to LTE to supplement the 1900 towers. I hope they continue building out both.
The higher frequencies (1900) are better at long distances, but poor at penetrating buildings. The lower Frequencies (800) are the opposite. It would make sense they build out both, except that the HTC One and other currently released phones don't support LTE on the 800 mhz towers. We would have to upgrade again when they release a phone supporting that to gain that support.
dumb question here, but is 4G LTE the same as just 4G?
does this phone get LTE? I see other phones that display LTE next to the signal bar, but this one doesn't
magnumtripod said:
dumb question here, but is 4G LTE the same as just 4G?
does this phone get LTE? I see other phones that display LTE next to the signal bar, but this one doesn't
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They are not the same.
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magnumtripod said:
dumb question here, but is 4G LTE the same as just 4G?
does this phone get LTE? I see other phones that display LTE next to the signal bar, but this one doesn't
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When you see 4G in the sprint HTC one you are getting LTE its just the symbol sprint went with .. Verizon shows a 4GLTE symbol .. if you have an old galaxy s2 or evo 4G (OGEvO) that is running Wimax and is not LTE ...
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When you see 4G in the sprint HTC one you are getting LTE its just the symbol sprint went with .. Verizon shows a 4GLTE symbol .. if you have an old galaxy s2 or evo 4G (OGEvO) that is running Wimax and is not LTE ...
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thanks! exactly what I was looking for
So are our devices future proof for when they start building LTE on the 800 band. As in does anyone know if our Ones are capable of utilizing the 800 band when they switch it over to LTE
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bvang89 said:
So are our devices future proof for when they start building LTE on the 800 band. As in does anyone know if our Ones are capable of utilizing the 800 band when they switch it over to LTE
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Yes to 3g on 800 but no to LTE on 800. They haven't release a phone capable of 4G on 800 yet.
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If I'm correct
Sprint is going to use both 800 and 1900 for their 4G and will add 2500 Mhz later on.
"Sprint's current LTE band near 1900 MHz (band 25), the phones will also support LTE near 800 MHz and 2,500 MHz. The 800 band (also known as ESMR, BC10, and band 27) hosts iDEN - which is being phased out - and CDMA. Sprint has previously announced plans to deploy LTE technology in that band in early 2014. "
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=11771
Are our phones future proof? That's debatable. It all depends on which area you live in and their 4G deployment speed.
They will be able to use Sprint's crappy 3G speeds, which by that point should be less congested.
Lucky for you guys that actually get LTE. Here in AR I'm still stuck on their crappy 3g. I read their LTE gets around 10+ down where tested. That sounds freaking good enough to me at this point.
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gk1984 said:
Yes to 3g on 800 but no to LTE on 800. They haven't release a phone capable of 4G on 800 yet.
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Incorrect I'm afraid. Sprint will not be deploying 3G on the 800MHz band. Only CDMA voice and data and LTE, but no EV-DO (3G).
gk1984 said:
From what I've read since they announced Network Vision is that they will continue to build out LTE over the current 1900 mhz frequencies and convert the iDen Nextel towers to LTE to supplement the 1900 towers. I hope they continue building out both.
The higher frequencies (1900) are better at long distances, but poor at penetrating buildings. The lower Frequencies (800) are the opposite. It would make sense they build out both, except that the HTC One and other currently released phones don't support LTE on the 800 mhz towers. We would have to upgrade again when they release a phone supporting that to gain that support.
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Higher frequencies do not travel as far as low ones.
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Well, I've been misinformed. Thanks for correcting this.
Also, I've seen LTE on Sprint range from 2 Mbps to 12 Mbps. It depends on the area and I suppose signal strength. In one town near me, it's consistently around 4 Mbps, but less populated areas reaches much higher.
EDIT:
Well, maybe 3G on 800mhz wasn't exactly misinformed. At least not completely.
http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/129995-fcc-approves-3g-and-4g
FCC approved Sprint to use that spectrum for 3G and 4G. This doesn't mean that Sprint will use it for 3G.
gk1984 said:
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EDIT:
Well, maybe 3G on 800mhz wasn't exactly misinformed. At least not completely.
http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/129995-fcc-approves-3g-and-4g
FCC approved Sprint to use that spectrum for 3G and 4G. This doesn't mean that Sprint will use it for 3G.
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This doesn't change what I indicated earlier, which is that Sprint won't be deploying 3G on 800MHz. Only CDMA 1xAdv and LTE will be deployed in that band.
gk1984 said:
Yes to 3g on 800 but no to LTE on 800. They haven't release a phone capable of 4G on 800 yet.
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Correct. The band in question, LTE over 800MHz is LTE Band 26. There is no equipment available that uses this band.
It's actually a huge chunk of sub 1GHz spectrum, 35MHz of bandwidth (including guard bands.) If Sprint can actually deploy this properly, they have the ability to be the best carrier in the US. Here's hoping the network gets deployed by the time we need to upgrade our O1nes.
Reference:
http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php
So of all the Sprint phones on the market today, none of them have any advantage over the One as far as LTE bands go?
This would be good news to me, I thought I might not be able to connect to an LTE tower using a band the One can't use, but the GS4 could.
ajent said:
So of all the Sprint phones on the market today, none of them have any advantage over the One as far as LTE bands go?
This would be good news to me, I thought I might not be able to connect to an LTE tower using a band the One can't use, but the GS4 could.
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HTC One and S4 use the same bands, but also runs on Rev. 0 and Rev.A (Dunno where I read this)
If anything the One is more fine tuned to Sprint's network than the S4
gobaers said:
Correct. The band in question, LTE over 800MHz is LTE Band 26. There is no equipment available that uses this band.
It's actually a huge chunk of sub 1GHz spectrum, 35MHz of bandwidth (including guard bands.) If Sprint can actually deploy this properly, they have the ability to be the best carrier in the US. Here's hoping the network gets deployed by the time we need to upgrade our O1nes.
Reference:
http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php
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FYI Sprint does not own all 35MHz of that spectrum in that band.... Sprints 800Mhz LTE will be a 5x5MHz deployment so while it will help some on building penetration and some coverage, it won't be earth shattering and jaw dropping...
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Related
My parents are considering ditching VZW and going with T-Mobile. The bring-your-own-phone discount T-Mo offers is really appealing to them, and my dad's a huge Moto fan (IDK why). So, that said, i went poking around, and found a couple reviews that stated they were pentaband phones? I know Pentaband usually means T-Mobile 4G-friendly (EG galaxy nexus) but i really wanted to confirm that they would work on T-Mo at full speed before recommending either of the phones.
According to GSMArena, these are the bands the phones have:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
So... how would they fare?
Thanks in advance!
Is the phone unlocked? My Droid 3 had to be flashed to even work on gsm plus unlocked. It will work with 3g if you live in an area on air portal.de.
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They're European Sim-free phones, so yes, they're unlocked. The Razor I is already out, the Razor HD is coming soon.
mtmerrick said:
They're European Sim-free phones, so yes, they're unlocked. The Razor I is already out, the Razor HD is coming soon.
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It doesn't have the 1700 mHz band, so unless you live in an area that T-Mobile has completed (or is in the process of), the refarming of the 1900 mHz band to,HSPA+ you will only get EDGE data speeds. Calls and texts will work fine.
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Also that is not a pentaband phone it's quadband.
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So for future reference, the 1700 MHz band is important one? Is that single band used for 3G and HSPA+ "4G", or just one of them?
mtmerrick said:
So for future reference, the 1700 MHz band is important one? Is that single band used for 3G and HSPA+ "4G", or just one of them?
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T-Mobile uses both the 1700mHz and the 2100mHz bands, you need both to get "4G" or HSPA+ (since HSPA+ is really 3.5G you will fall back to EDGE is the phone is not compatible.)
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Babydoll25 said:
T-Mobile uses both the 1700mHz and the 2100mHz bands, you need both to get "4G" or HSPA+ (since HSPA+ is really 3.5G you will fall back to EDGE is the phone is not compatible.)
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Thank you, I've been wondering this for a while
*bookmarks page for future reference*
mtmerrick said:
Thank you, I've been wondering this for a while
*bookmarks page for future reference*
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One is the downlink, the other the uplink. I believe the 1700mHz band is the downlink.
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Babydoll25 said:
One is the downlink, the other the uplink. I believe the 1700mHz band is the downlink.
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Correct. Thankfully the refarm is going well and it should be hitting the top 100 markets soon. I'm really excited for Wichita getting this because I'm stuck on edge.
MrObvious said:
Correct. Thankfully the refarm is going well and it should be hitting the top 100 markets soon. I'm really excited for Wichita getting this because I'm stuck on edge.
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They have already lit up the 1900mHz band in parts of brooklyn and manhattan (nyc). Since I live in Jersey it shouldn't be too long before I have HSPA+ on my One X....
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Any news of the network updates coming to Southern California?
mtmerrick said:
Any news of the network updates coming to Southern California?
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Check hofo (howardforums). They have a thread dedicated to people posting updates about the refarm.
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So-cal has been getting some refarming already.
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So that means the Xperia T will work on non-refarmed areas, on '4G'?
Here are the bands, as according to gsmarena:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
mtmerrick said:
So that means the Xperia T will work on non-refarmed areas, on '4G'?
Here are the bands, as according to gsmarena:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
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Whoa very nice you can use either AT&T or T-Mobile for 3G without worrying about refarming.
Sry I hope i dont double post here cause i dont have the timd to read the full thread just my two cents:
Motorola RAZR i
No 4G at all
Unlocked and carrier free
Will it be released in the US? I thought it wouldnt...
And when amazon germany is correct it will be released on 15., two days later i will get it
Again sry for (possible) double posting
//Robert
1) Razr i has, AFAIK, AT&T HSPA+ "4G" radios, just no LTE
2) sim free version, yes
3) In the US we get the Droid Razr M, which is identical except for its S4 CPU and VZW LTE radios. Doesn't stop us from importing the GSM Razr i tho
4) I thought it was already out?
Uk only so far i think, France and Germany up next. Sweden seems to be a no show
Thanks for correcting me
Though im on vacation till 18th so i will get it on 20th when i meet a friend who ordered it for me :/
//Robert
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Hi,
As the title implies, is the htc one dev phone quad band? and if not, is any htc one quad band? of course they are locked down to use certain frequencies and what not to specific carriers.
Thing Im getting at is... if it indeed does have quad band then there is room for devs to find a way for people like me to get LTE on t-mobile and not just 3G. Unfortunately, the devs phone tend to favor ATT and leaves t-mobile hanging when it comes to 4G.
Many thanks,
Tim
Becool0130 said:
Hi,
As the title implies, is the htc one dev phone quad band? and if not, is any htc one quad band? of course they are locked down to use certain frequencies and what not to specific carriers.
Thing Im getting at is... if it indeed does have quad band then there is room for devs to find a way for people like me to get LTE on t-mobile and not just 3G. Unfortunately, the devs phone tend to favor ATT and leaves t-mobile hanging when it comes to 4G.
Many thanks,
Tim
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I have been told that when a radio is available then we could flash it. But I haven't been able to confirm this and I too want to know about this. 1700mhz band is what Tmobile uses. This really could be the difference between me getting an S4 and this phone.
I believe that the dev edition out of the box will not support 1700 for TMO but I also believe that is a software limitation and not a hardware one as I believe it is the same hardware as the at&t version.
MG
Becool0130 said:
Hi,
As the title implies, is the htc one dev phone quad band? and if not, is any htc one quad band? of course they are locked down to use certain frequencies and what not to specific carriers.
Thing Im getting at is... if it indeed does have quad band then there is room for devs to find a way for people like me to get LTE on t-mobile and not just 3G. Unfortunately, the devs phone tend to favor ATT and leaves t-mobile hanging when it comes to 4G.
Many thanks,
Tim
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Dev version has same frequency as AT&T version
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE:
US (AT&T): 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
3G for Tmobile is not supported but I guess 4G is supported because it has AWS
1900 mhz is t-mobile 3G network it will have 3G but no 4G. Unless the devs get there hands on the 1700 soon.
My other question still applies from above. Is this phone indeed a quad band one?
Thanks
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Becool0130 said:
1900 mhz is t-mobile 3G network it will have 3G but no 4G. Unless the devs get there hands on the 1700 soon.
My other question still applies from above. Is this phone indeed a quad band one?
Thanks
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Anyone know for a fact that a radio flash would enable 1700?
I couldn't find exact specs, but the report on ifixit (can't post link) tells that there is a Qualcomm MDM9215M Communications Chip for GSM/UMTS/LTE. The other chip TriQuint TQM7M9023 is for Quad Band usage, GSM etc.
I am trying to find out, which Frequencies this chip supports.
I want to buy the US Dev Edition 64GB for use in Europe and I am still hoping that flashing a new radio rom is a work-around to get it working everywhere.
Maybe somebody has already done it?
Becool0130 said:
1900 mhz is t-mobile 3G network it will have 3G but no 4G. Unless the devs get there hands on the 1700 soon.
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It's actually 7-band (700/850/900/AWS/1800/1900/2100)... but not all bands are available for all technologies. Here is what you get:
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz - This will give you 3G support on AT&T and MAY give you 3G/4G support on T-Mobile, but only in the limited areas where T-Mobile has already migrated their 1900MHz spectrum to HSPA+. In most areas, their 3G/4G service is limited to the AWS band which the HTC One Developer Edition only supports for LTE.
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz - This will give you 2G/2.5G support on pretty much every GSM provider.
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz - This will give you 4G LTE support on AT&T and T-Mobile.
Cloudscout said:
It's actually 7-band (700/850/900/AWS/1800/1900/2100)... but not all bands are available for all technologies. Here is what you get:
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz - This will give you 3G support on AT&T and MAY give you 3G/4G support on T-Mobile, but only in the limited areas where T-Mobile has already migrated their 1900MHz spectrum to HSPA+. In most areas, their 3G/4G service is limited to the AWS band which the HTC One Developer Edition only supports for LTE.
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz - This will give you 2G/2.5G support on pretty much every GSM provider.
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz - This will give you 4G LTE support on AT&T and T-Mobile.
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Hi, T-mobile uses band 4 via 1700/2100. Also the 3G support. And tmobile HSPA must use 1700/2100 BOTH or it wont work which makes T-mobile 3g unavailable till 1900 is completed.
But perhaps when it says "AWS" maybe it means band 4 ? is that what your referring to? if so I stand corrected. Then again, LTE 4G is in so little places now.. lets not compute it -_-
Correct. Band 4 is AWS.
Anybody knows if i could use LTE in Spain with my Dev Edition
The One Developer Edition also includes support for 850/1900/2100 MHz HSPA and 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz 4G LTE connectivity
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I am ready to buy the 64 mb Developer Edition but I want to make sure
this will work with the LTE USA bands.
My Nexus 4 does not. Experts Please advise.
Thank you in advance,
Charlie C
Yes works in ATT and T-Mobile. It says it on the spec page bud
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expertzero1 said:
Yes works in ATT and T-Mobile. It says it on the spec page bud
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Experto
On ALL LTE bands? Final question....
Thank you
Charlie
I don't have the specs off my head but 700, aws and others just check at the HTC store for the specs
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HTC One Developer Edition unboxing and hands-on VIDEO
Here is HTC One Developer Edition unboxing video.
In short yes it will work fine with both AT&T and TMO LTE bands.
It gets more complicated when talking about UMTS/HSPA bands on TMO but for LTE you're fine.
MG
expertzero1 said:
Yes works in ATT and T-Mobile. It says it on the spec page bud
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Are you sure about T-mo? From the T-mo site http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-5627
-Mobile’s 4G LTE network will operate on the same band as our 4G HSPA+ network, Band IV, which uses 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies to transmit data services.
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I hope I'm reading this wrong, I am by no means an expert, but if they use 1700/2100 as they do for HSPA (IE one frequency upstream the other down) then the dev edition will not get 4G LTE on TMOUS.
Sorry for Hijacking the thread a little.
Quote from Android Police
A reminder to T-Mobile customers: this model will not support HSPA+ in most markets, but should work on its growing LTE network where offered.
Also, to follow that up. If you are in a refarmed 1900mhz area it will work HSPA+
That is my take from the Article
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-pre-orders-open-up-to-u-s-customers-for-649/
SykesAT said:
I hope I'm reading this wrong, I am by no means an expert, but if they use 1700/2100 as they do for HSPA (IE one frequency upstream the other down) then the dev edition will not get 4G LTE on TMOUS.
Sorry for Hijacking the thread a little.
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The quote is correct but so is what rugmankc said. The short answer is that UMTS and LTE band support does not have to be the same.
If you want a few specifics, the dev and AT&T Ones support LTE band 4 (AWS, or 1700/2100MHz) but only have triband UMTS (850/1900/2100 iirc). The T-Mobile One supports quadband UMTS (all UMTS frequencies except 900MHz I think) as well as LTE band 4. They both support LTE band 17 (700MHz) also, not sure about others.
So in conclusion: ATT/dev One works on T-Mo LTE and refarmed 1900MHz HSPA+.
ATT
Does anyone actually have the HTC one developer Edition on ATT and is running LTE?
CC
Phone - HTC One unlocked developer edition 64GB
SIM - T-mobile Unlimited Data package
I had a Google Nexus S and never had problems with data connectivity in Manhattan, NYC. But with the HTC One, the network keeps switching between 3G, EDGE and HSPA. The result - very embarrassing data connectivity - browsing, news feed sync, podcasts, and such.
Has anyone else experienced this issue ? Is there a workaround ?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
... Srilesh
srilesh said:
Phone - HTC One unlocked developer edition 64GB
SIM - T-mobile Unlimited Data package
I had a Google Nexus S and never had problems with data connectivity in Manhattan, NYC. But with the HTC One, the network keeps switching between 3G, EDGE and HSPA. The result - very embarrassing data connectivity - browsing, news feed sync, podcasts, and such.
Has anyone else experienced this issue ? Is there a workaround ?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
... Srilesh
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Well surprise surprise...please get a TMobile version which has the AWS 1700 band for 3G/HSPA+ ... the developer edition doesn't have that band and you are got get bad reception/speed. If you are in 1900 refarmed market it will be ok but still that is not covering enough market.
People are trying flashing TMo radio to get the AWS 1700 band but i think it still doesn't work.
Developer edition is the same as the international edition. If the signal is week, it will fall back to the other speeds 3g. So yeah like kirdroid said get the tmo version for better compatibility
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shouldve gotten urself the u.s version buddy..think next time
kirdroid said:
Well surprise surprise...please get a TMobile version which has the AWS 1700 band for 3G/HSPA+ ... the developer edition doesn't have that band and you are got get bad reception/speed. If you are in 1900 refarmed market it will be ok but still that is not covering enough market.
People are trying flashing TMo radio to get the AWS 1700 band but i think it still doesn't work.
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Been going back and forth between the Dev version and the Tmo one, looking like I'll stick with Tmo then.
However, think there's any chance flashing a new radio will eventually be ironed out?
thebigears said:
Been going back and forth between the Dev version and the Tmo one, looking like I'll stick with Tmo then.
However, think there's any chance flashing a new radio will eventually be ironed out?
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I think eventually it will be figured out probably once s-off is achieved...but not sure when that will happen. I guess there is a thread in TMobile One forum tracking this.
kirdroid said:
Well surprise surprise...please get a TMobile version which has the AWS 1700 band for 3G/HSPA+ ... the developer edition doesn't have that band and you are got get bad reception/speed. If you are in 1900 refarmed market it will be ok but still that is not covering enough market.
People are trying flashing TMo radio to get the AWS 1700 band but i think it still doesn't work.
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Think there's a little misinformation there as the Dev Edition has the AWS 1700/2100 band... and definitely supports T-mobile's LTE bands.
Ah thanks! I'll hop on over there and see what people are saying.
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Think there's a little misinformation there as the Dev Edition has the AWS 1700/2100 band... and definitely supports T-mobile's LTE bands.
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Yes it has the LTE AWS bands but not the AWS 1700 HSPA+ bands to get the TMobile fast HSPA downloads, both are different.There is no misinformation ... lots of people get confused with the LTE bands. Below are the specs...the missing band is in the HSPA/WCDMA section, if it had the AWS 1700 band here then it was perfect.
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
kirdroid said:
Yes it has the LTE AWS bands but not the AWS 1700 HSPA+ bands to get the TMobile fast HSPA downloads, both are different.There is no misinformation ... lots of people get confused with the LTE bands. Below are the specs...the missing band is in the HSPA/WCDMA section, if it had the AWS 1700 band here then it was perfect.
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
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Correct. If I it had the aws band I would have ordered the dev edition.
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AndrewAmazed said:
Think there's a little misinformation there as the Dev Edition has the AWS 1700/2100 band... and definitely supports T-mobile's LTE bands.
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The dev edition offered by HTC in the US has the below bands
HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
I picked it up from the the HTC shopamerica page for HTC One Dev Edition
Kik, is right about it.
As you mentioned, I could wait for T-Mo LTE bands to be available in NYC or I could switch to ATT.
stevedebi said:
Correct. If I it had the aws band I would have ordered the dev edition.
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Me too ... don't know why HTC had to leave out that.
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Well surprise surprise...please get a TMobile version which has the AWS 1700 band for 3G/HSPA+ ... the developer edition doesn't have that band and you are got get bad reception/speed. If you are in 1900 refarmed market it will be ok but still that is not covering enough market.
People are trying flashing TMo radio to get the AWS 1700 band but i think it still doesn't work.
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Thank Kir. How do I find if NYC & Jersey City are refarmed to 1900 ?
NYC is refarmed. Everything will be better when LTE it's rolled out in June.
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NYC is refarmed. Everything will be better when LTE it's rolled out in June.
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Agree, will have to wait till June but I believe it will be a bit choppy for some months like it was for ATT.
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Been going back and forth between the Dev version and the Tmo one, looking like I'll stick with Tmo then.
However, think there's any chance flashing a new radio will eventually be ironed out?
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Yeah, stick with the T-mo version, but maybe you would want to check when T-mo rolls out LTE in your region. Definitely the storage 64GB is important as the HTC One does not have a SD slot.
hello00 said:
shouldve gotten urself the u.s version buddy..think next time
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Not sure what you mean by US version. Did you mean a carrier specific version bound by contract ?
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Not sure what you mean by US version. Did you mean a carrier specific version bound by contract ?
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exactly
srilesh said:
Not sure what you mean by US version. Did you mean a carrier specific version bound by contract ?
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Except its TMobile, so you're not bound by contract.
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Used code *#*#4636#*#* to display the phone information. And it allowed me to choose the type of network. It provides more than in the Settings - Mobile Data - Network Mode.
I have chosen GSM Auto PRL and I do see an improvement in the reception. Not sure how it works but can anyone explain?
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Will most areas with Wimax get LTE? I didn't care too much about this until I read that AT&T Ones get both Wimax and LTE. How exactly does this work? Has it to do with the GSM/CDMA thing?
I was with T-mobile before and you could say I was spoiled by their HSPA speeds. Now its normal for me to get anywhere from 80 to 100 kbps with Sprint. Occasionally I get an LTE signal and speeds upto 1.5 mbps. Would I get faster speeds if I had an older, Wimax phone?
Also, I was told by the Sprint rep that the Nextel towers will be converted to LTE. Is this true?
Where'd you read that att models support wimax?
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It's magic, considering ATT never deployed wimax whatsoever. Sprint is the only major cellular provider who went with Wimax, everyone else went lte or HSPA+
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Will most areas with Wimax get LTE? I didn't care too much about this until I read that AT&T Ones get both Wimax and LTE. How exactly does this work? Has it to do with the GSM/CDMA thing?
I was with T-mobile before and you could say I was spoiled by their HSPA speeds. Now its normal for me to get anywhere from 80 to 100 kbps with Sprint. Occasionally I get an LTE signal and speeds upto 1.5 mbps. Would I get faster speeds if I had an older, Wimax phone?
Also, I was told by the Sprint rep that the Nextel towers will be converted to LTE. Is this true?
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All of this is true except AT&T ONE getting WiMax. As was said, AT&T has never had WiMax and the ONE is not capable of it. Whoever told you that is either mistaken or lying.
Depending on where you are WiMax could be more available then LTE as of right now. As they shut down the 800mhz Nextel towers, Sprint will be rolling out LTE 800 on those is the story most have heard.
I'm in Chicago and we have a lot of wimax. But also a lot of lte too. I did get faster speeds on wimax, but I could only get wimax if I were outside. So... I kept it off and only used wimax if I really needed it. It was a major battery hog.
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I had og Evo and Evo 3d which were both wimax phones. The signal was much more consistent than I get on my Evo lte and HTC one. As far as speed, I HAVE spiked to 22mbps once or twice on lte but I have to be right there in that sweet spot which is on the side of a major hwy. I can pull 5-8 mbps on an average lte signal but I am constantly loosing it and switching back to 3g and going back and forth. My wimax signal was a goo 7-8 inside my house. Lte is very inconsistent and my area is suppose to be over 80% complete I think last time I checked.
And like gk said wimax was a battery hog. I could never get half a day if I left my wimax radio on and off the charger. My lte devices last a lot longer. This one I take it off the charger in the morning and still have half battery at night most times
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Will most areas with Wimax get LTE? I didn't care too much about this until I read that AT&T Ones get both Wimax and LTE. How exactly does this work? Has it to do with the GSM/CDMA thing?
I was with T-mobile before and you could say I was spoiled by their HSPA speeds. Now its normal for me to get anywhere from 80 to 100 kbps with Sprint. Occasionally I get an LTE signal and speeds upto 1.5 mbps. Would I get faster speeds if I had an older, Wimax phone?
Also, I was told by the Sprint rep that the Nextel towers will be converted to LTE. Is this true?
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I would be surprised if it were directly true. The Nextel towers were all IDEN-based and are in the process of being torn down. I have no doubt they will be eventually switched to CDMA/3G and then LTE (or maybe built with LTE from the get-go), but probably not until after Sprint rolls out LTE to its existing tower infrastructure.
Not to go off topic too much but when I lived in Columbus Ohio we had pretty good wimax coverage. And in complete honesty the battery hit was hardly any worse than 3g so I would leave wimax on all of the time. I could go a full 12 hour day at work on my 3d with moderate usage and get home with 30 percent left. Similar comparisons in battery life on my 4g, shift, and et4g as well. Apparently its similar to any other signal issue.... But if its a good area wimax doesn't hurt the battery too bad at all really.
I used to get really inconsistent lte a month ago. I'm not sure if they improved the network to correct it or what but when I unlocked the bootloader, I saw a very consistent experience. Not sure if wiping everything did something to correct it, placebo, or new towers were flipped on the same day.
But I only get 2-3 mbps on lte
Wimax I was getting about 8-10
In any case... Sprint is the only major wimax carrier in the USA and att doesn't use it - as mentioned earlier, OP was lied to about this.
Also, I hear the Nextel iden network will be configured to lte on 800 mhz which our phones don't support. None do at this point actually.
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wimax is awful & I live in a "good" wimax area. Besides Sprint quit building on the network once they realized it sucked.
All right thanks for the clarification guys. I was suspicious when I read it (no idea where, some random forums). Since Sprint is letting go of Wimax and replacing their Wimax devices with LTE, would it be safe to assume that places with "Best" Wimax coverage and/or Nextel coverage will get LTE at some point (6 mos-1 year)? It's really sad when it takes 30-45 minutes do download Cut the Rope at the local mall (in silicon Valley).
Sprint lte (any carried for that matter) is very signal dependent. Stronger signal = faster connection. If u connect to lte and its a slow connection, chances are you are connected to a site farther away then u think, or have a site (one that serves your voice coverage) between the lte site and your phone. All sprint sites are being converted to lte. Most Nextel sites are not. During the conversion, sprint is putting up panels has house both voice and lte on 1900mhz, voice on smr800 and lte on 800smr. No 800smr lte devices are out yet, will will be starting this fall. When Nextel is turned off (last day of this month), sprint will start turning on the 800smr on voice and lte but may take some time (especially lte side). 800smr voice is already being broadcasted in parts of the county, such as in Chicago. Most if not all native sprint coverage will have lte by this time next year. For much more info, go to s4gru.com
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I had Wimax on my evo3d as well as for my home internet through clear. Wimax signal is much weaker than LTE it is easily affected by weather and even wind.it has poor building penetration, hence Sprint dumped the Wimax program and began with lte!!!
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Paleryder said:
I had Wimax on my evo3d as well as for my home internet through clear. Wimax signal is much weaker than LTE it is easily affected by weather and even wind.it has poor building penetration, hence Sprint dumped the Wimax program and began with lte!!!
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It wasn't so much wimax sucked based on the symptoms you described, it's the frequency Clearwire was using. They used 2500 mhz for wimax and if it were lte on that same band, we'd still have poor building penetration and weak signal.
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No 800smr lte devices are out yet, will will be starting this fall.
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the htc one should actually be capable of 800smr lte with some changes to the radio config (and possibly radio software too, but i'm pretty sure that won't be necessary)... once 800smr lte is up and running somewhere near where i live i'll be able to test and figure out what exactly needs to be done to make it work.
hotaru2k3 said:
the htc one should actually be capable of 800smr lte with some changes to the radio config (and possibly radio software too, but i'm pretty sure that won't be necessary)... once 800smr lte is up and running somewhere near where i live i'll be able to test and figure out what exactly needs to be done to make it work.
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it is not capable of 800smr lte....its a hardware thing (no 800smr antenna within the phone) with the HTC ONE, check out the FCC docs...
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1898233 (note page 5, only LTE BAND 25 (g block, 1900 mhz, sprints current lte network)
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-342-updated-all-for-htc-one-htc-one-for-all/
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it is not capable of 800smr....its a hardware thing (no 800smr antenna within the phone) with the HTC ONE, check out the FCC docs...
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1898233 (note page 5, only LTE BAND 25 (g block, 1900 mhz, sprints current lte network)
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-342-updated-all-for-htc-one-htc-one-for-all/
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first link just says "You are not authorized to access this page.", but i have already seen the fcc filings for the sprint htc one.
from the second link:
CDMA1X + EV-DO band classes 0, 1, 10 (i.e. CDMA1X + EV-DO 850/1900/800)
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Antenna 0 max RF ERP/EIRP: 20.10 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 850), 23.80 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 1900), 19.23 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 800), 12.30 dBm (LTE 1900)
Antenna 1 max RF ERP/EIRP: 13.78 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 850), 13.58 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 1900), 14.27 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 800), 23.63 dBm (LTE 1900)
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cdma band class 10 is 800smr. both antennas work for 800smr. the radio can transmit and receive on 800smr frequencies.
it's very likely that a simple configuration change will enable lte on 800smr. if that turns out to not be the case, it's definitely possible to do it by modifying the baseband software.
I asked Sprint support about a month or 2 ago if the One would be compatible with 800 when they launch it and they said none of the currently released phones are capable and none will be released until Q3 or Q4
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Note that by the time Sprint actually deploys in large-scale any non-1900mhz LTE, you'll be up for a new phone (that is, 2 years). It's going to take a long, long time. They haven't even started yet.
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first link just says "You are not authorized to access this page.", but i have already seen the fcc filings for the sprint htc one.
from the second link:
cdma band class 10 is 800smr. both antennas work for 800smr. the radio can transmit and receive on 800smr frequencies.
it's very likely that a simple configuration change will enable lte on 800smr. if that turns out to not be the case, it's definitely possible to do it by modifying the baseband software.
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that radio (antenna) will not work on 800smr LTE. Voice 800smr yes, lte, no
The Sprint version of the HTC One is limited to band 25 LTE 1900. It does not support either of Sprint's upcoming LTE bands -- band 26 LTE 800 and band 41 TD-LTE 2600.
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Vincent Law said:
Note that by the time Sprint actually deploys in large-scale any non-1900mhz LTE, you'll be up for a new phone (that is, 2 years). It's going to take a long, long time. They haven't even started yet.
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Sprint has started an 800smr LTE fit in Montana.
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gk1984 said:
I asked Sprint support about a month or 2 ago if the One would be compatible with 800 when they launch it and they said none of the currently released phones are capable and none will be released until Q3 or Q4
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This is correct :good:
***THIS IS LIKE THE OLD "WILL MY WIMAX DEVICE WORK ON LTE" DEBATE " lol ....we all know how that ended up