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[Q] Softbricked

Ok so I found this usefull tut on the wiki from cyanogenmod, and I followed it. Everything went great until I had to flash dangerSPL. So I've put the 2.22.19.26i Radio on it, flashed it, and then I flashed the DangerSPL. I was going absolutly crazy when it was stuck at the t-mobile G1 screen... I Can acces the Recovery AND the bootloader (Amon Ra 1.7). Ive tried Whipe -> Whipe data/factory reset. But I'm still stuck on the G1 screen after that. Is there a step that I'm missing or can I call it my own personal brick?

You did install your ROM after flashing the SPL?
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AndDiSa said:
You did install your ROM after flashing the SPL?
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No, So I have to flash SPL and then directly flash ROM?

Excuse me the question, but do you know, what you are doing? Do you expect, too, that a computer, where you repartitioned the harddisk is booting the former OS without any problems?
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AndDiSa said:
Excuse me the question, but do you know, what you are doing? Do you expect, too, that a computer, where you repartitioned the harddisk is booting the former OS without any problems?
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Ooh, that explains a lot XD So DangerSPL is there to repartition the memory.

Ok so did the whole process again, after doing the SPL, I flashes cyanogen mod 6.0 and google apps. Now I've rebooted and it is stuck (Or does it just takes ages) on the blue Cyanogen(mod) cirkel with the rotating thingie

You sound like a real newb.
You should install spl 1.33.2003, which uses stock partition layouts and is fully compatible with the DREAM RADIOS (and thus won't brick). To alter partitioning, use the CORRECT tools, specifically, the partition table can be handed to the kernel on the command line. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717874

Unfortunately DangerSPL is "misused" to repartition the memory of the phone. Nowadays there is no need to do so (links to alternatives can be found in my signature), but everybody is suggesting it, so everybody is using it.
About the boot time: It will take long to boot, for sure several minutes. If you see the bootimage at least the kernel was loaded without problems, i.e. first step is working. If you want to see what's going on during the boot-phase, you can try to logcat using adb (-> it's a remote debugging tool).

I sound noob because I am at this stuff. Got my phone in yesterday...
And so if I install spl 1.33.2003, I will be able to get Cyanogen 6.0 on the phone. The tutorial said dangerSPL expanded one pertition and that that was necessary. Is this also so with spl 1.33.2003?

You cannot flash the 1.33.2003 and use CM6 directly. To use CM6 with 1.33.2003 you need to "patch" your kernels using Firerat's mtd-custom partition layout. It consist of 2 zip files which are used to modify your recovery and your boot images (down in my signature is a link to the thread where it is explained in detail). The advantage of doing so: no risk to brick your phone and the partition layout can be defined almost as you want.
Another hint I would like to give you and others starting to root and to flash new ROMs: before rooting and flashing, try to read as much as possible here in the forum. Especially the "sticky" postings which give you some introductions. It will help you to get an understanding of what you are doing and how it is working. Bricking a phone is more easy as you might think ...

Need help from Root Froyo user

Hey all so I currently have an unlocked bootloader, rooted Nexus One still running the Stock Froyo 2.2.2. and I decided to finally upgrade to the OTA Gingerbread update but have a problem.
The OTA update restarts my phone with a triangle with an "!" inside it and an Android next to it, so I decided to try a manual update as described here.
Everything went well until the installation itself, during the install I kept getting some sort of error stating Twitter.apk in the system directory could not be authenticated.
So here's the problem, with Titanium Backup I made the stupid mistake of uninstalling it and not backing it up when I first rooted a while ago. I thought I could just reinstall it from the market but I get the same error. The only solution I can think of is if someone running a Nexus One Stock Froyo could possibly send me the Titanium Backup files of Twitter, hopefully this would make it work, otherwise I don't think I could ever update.

Since your bootloader is unlocked, you can use fastboot to install a custom recovery and then flash whatever you want (including a stock image)...
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Since your bootloader is unlocked, you can use fastboot to install a custom recovery and then flash whatever you want (including a stock image)...
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Thanks for the response, but I'm having trouble figuring some of this stuff, after spending some time with the search option here in XDA:
1. I don't the difference between custom recovery and flashing an image.
2. I can't find a simple stock Gingerbread image (thought its called ROM?) Details in posts tend to be vague for people that are learning this stuff, like me.
3. Many people have written to use Amron_ra 2.2.1 but I don't know the specifics of each ROM are (ex. if its Froyo based, Gingerbread based, etc.)
4. Would using ROM Manager be a good method to use any ROM or is it limited?
I'm essentially looking for an effective method to upgrading to a clean Gingerbread, since doing it the normal way won't work on my phone (as stated in my first post).

1 - Recovery, bootloader, and 'ROM' are two different partitions on you phone. Once you break security on one, you can use it to break the security on the other. In your case, the security on your bootloader is broken (unlocked), so you can use it to install new software on the other partitions.
2 - See bullet 4 on the first post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005591
3 - For recovery you have 2 choices, Amon Ra or Clockwork, If you go with Clockwork, I recommend you stay away from 3.x versions. Unless the ROM you want to install says otherwise, either of these recoveries will work.
4 - ROM Manger will work. It's an easy way to achieve results, but unless you know what you are doing, it's also an easy way to screw things up.
I suggest you take it a step at at a time, and really understand what you are doing. Reading the wiki is always a good start, then ask specific questions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Nexus_One.png

Thanks Danger, I made the jump to Cyanogen 7, RC-4 via ROM Manager and couldn't be happier! Only problem is the known audio bug for Nexus One (person on other end of a call hears a lot of static sometimes, and have to recall them). The forced apps2sd is by far my most favourite feature, especially since the N1 internal space is pretty horrible, I've moved most of my apps2sd and haven't had any problems thus far.
Thanks for recommending CM7, I just wish their website listed the full features for newbies like me.

Thanks danger-rat http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...lick-doesnt-work-gingerbread-2.html#post93952
I downgraded my gingerbread to froyo
Was pulling my hair out with a lame guide in the general section

Congrats!!
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[Q] rooting nexus one

hey guys i just got my nexus one 2.3.3
im confused what 2 do first
root, unlock bootloader
what 2 do first?
and i preffer to do all these things WITHOUT adb, bcoz adb never works with me

You can't unlock bootloader without ADB (or actually without fastboot, but if you can't get ADB to work, then you probably won't be able to get fastboot to work - since they work the same way).
My suggestion is - do nothing. At least until you'll be able to follow one of the guides and get ADB and fastboot to work. Then you can decide yourself, whether you want the bootloader unlocked or not, and how will rooting benefit you.

what are the benefits of unlocked bootloader?
i just wanted it to get it rooted and flash CM7 on it

It has been discussed a lot, please search to get A LOT of answers.
In a very short version, the benefits are:
Safe radio updates (using fastboot)
Ability to flash whatever you want whenever you want - which is, permanent ability to have root access, regardless of the currently used OS.

but is it possible to flash CM7 rom without unlocking bootloader?
whenever i boot my nexus one, there is this little lock icon on the bottem that is "unlocked"
is my bootloader unlocked?

shiyou said:
but is it possible to flash CM7 rom without unlocking bootloader?
whenever i boot my nexus one, there is this little lock icon on the bottem that is "unlocked"
is my bootloader unlocked?
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If there's lock icon at the bottom of boot splash screen, it means the bootloader is already unlocked. Is it used one?

yes its used, i guess that guy alrdy unlocked it for me
another problem
i have serius wifi issue, its different from the other wifi problem
if i connect to my wifi its authenticating, then disabled
i dont even go to sleep its just says disabled after authenticating, i tried reconecctint but same things happens again...
i installed wifi fixer but that doesnt work either
also, my 3g drops after 4 sec and i cant get it to work afterwards

Flash a new ROM, wipe your data, and try.
Repeat.
If the problems will still persist - they're in HW and you can't do anything about them.

i tried factory reset but didnt work...

This is exactly the reason why I suggest not touching your phone.
You either don't understand what exactly I'm guiding you to do, or don't understand the difference between various maintenance/repair operations. Flashing a new ROM and wiping user data from custom recovery ISN'T the same as doing "factory reset" from within already-installed ROM. Flashing 2 ROMs with different base (for example, lightly modified stock and CM7, or CM7 and MIUI, etc) introduces enough difference on the SW size to (almost) make sure that any problem which persists in both new ROMs, is coming from HW.
In any case, I suggest either waiting for someone with much more patience than myself (which isn't hard - patience isn't one of my strengths) to explain you some basics that you're not willing to learn yourself by reading, reading and some more reading, or to give your phone to someone who knows what he's doing.

dude....
i rooted and flashed many roms b4, this isnt my first android phone
i just got confused data wipe with factory reset....

Ok well now I need to know if you have a custom recovery, if so then just 5X wipe plus 3X system wipe and flash a new ROM, if not then do you have root access if not I'll walk you through the process.

shiyou
You are in good hands with Dude
Couple points:
Don't use Clockwork Mod 3.+ as recovery--which seems to be your next step--get a lower version
I prefer Amon_Ra 2.2.1 for my recovery
BACKUP phone (NANDROID) as soon as you get the recovery
Look thru Cyanogen thread from OP page and last few dozen pages
Cyanogen flashes a little differnet with having to flash gapps separate and flashing Dark Tremor's a2sd after each Nightly flash

i know how 2 root,flash,wipe, nandroid and all
i did it many times b4
i think i wont use nightly builds, but a stable? or RC?
which should i take?

How about cm7.1 RC1 that is the latest version of cyanogen mod.

rugmankc said:
shiyou
You are in good hands with Dude
Couple points:
Don't use Clockwork Mod 3.+ as recovery--which seems to be your next step--get a lower version
I prefer Amon_Ra 2.2.1 for my recovery
BACKUP phone (NANDROID) as soon as you get the recovery
Look thru Cyanogen thread from OP page and last few dozen pages
Cyanogen flashes a little differnet with having to flash gapps separate and flashing Dark Tremor's a2sd after each Nightly flash
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why not clockwork recovery 3? the cyanogenmod rc1 states that i need that?

should i use gingerbeak? im on 2.2.3 and install the recovery afterwards?

ok i rooted it with gingerbreak and flashed clockworkmod recovery on it
after that i went into recovery and couldnt find nandroid backup so i rebooted again
i tried to make a backup via rom manager and it ended up with a "!" icon
i tried to go into recovery again and again i got the "!" icon

I don't know anything about Gingerbreak
But, on CWMod 3.+, it has been unstable for a lot of people--I don't recommend it
If you have Rom Manager--flash something like 2.5.1.4??
Still recommend Amon_Ra
I am not sure, but if you get the exclamation, you may not be rooted
If you are experienced at flashing, I would as another poster suggested--get to know your phone and study hard info from the Rom threads you want to try before trying.
What color was recovery--did it say ClockWork
I don't think you will see the name Nandroid in Clockwork--just Clockwork backups

A couple more suggestions, if you want
Back up sd card regularly--you will lose it on occasion--if you need to reformat it, use sdformatter outside of phone
Partition sdcard with zero swap
Wipe all (data/caches) multiple times before flashing new rom, including System

[Q] Beyond Confused

Long time Reader. First Time Poster. Ive read many posts over the past few months about rooting, But I think I am more confused then prior to reading them. My Warranty ends tomorrow for my Incredible S on Virgin Moible Canada. And I am looking to Root my Phone, But I do not understand totally all the talk about Radio's, different rom types ( IE Revolutionary, Cyanogen, and so on) the whole Bootloader unlock by HTC if it helps or hurts me. Also Cant seem to find an answer to some basic questions.
1. Do my exisiting Apps still work the same way? ( IE Angry Birds for my Kid, the FM radio and so on)
2. How do I get new apps in - Do we use the market still ( My icon still says market and brings to market - No PLAY for me yet
3. How Often does the roms update - ?
4. ICS, Foyo or Gingerbread?
5. What are the RUU? Bootloader and ADB?
I am basically looking at getting a new Kernal to Throttle down the CPU when not in use as my battery life is horrible, get rid of the BELL BLOATware as I do not even have bell TV, and various other tweaks.
Sorry I know these might be very a Nublet Question. But I did read all the threads and it left me a bit puzzled....

Reaper6181979 said:
Long time Reader. First Time Poster. Ive read many posts over the past few months about rooting, But I think I am more confused then prior to reading them. My Warranty ends tomorrow for my Incredible S on Virgin Moible Canada. And I am looking to Root my Phone, But I do not understand totally all the talk about Radio's, different rom types ( IE Revolutionary, Cyanogen, and so on) the whole Bootloader unlock by HTC if it helps or hurts me. Also Cant seem to find an answer to some basic questions.
1. Do my exisiting Apps still work the same way? ( IE Angry Birds for my Kid, the FM radio and so on)
2. How do I get new apps in - Do we use the market still ( My icon still says market and brings to market - No PLAY for me yet
3. How Often does the roms update - ?
4. ICS, Foyo or Gingerbread?
5. What are the RUU? Bootloader and ADB?
I am basically looking at getting a new Kernal to Throttle down the CPU when not in use as my battery life is horrible, get rid of the BELL BLOATware as I do not even have bell TV, and various other tweaks.
Sorry I know these might be very a Nublet Question. But I did read all the threads and it left me a bit puzzled....
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1. If you're just unlocking and rooting, the phone will not appear any different. The apps will work just like they did beforehand. However, if you flash a custom rom, you will have a clean slate. There are apps that can back up all the apps and userdata on the phone(Titanium backup is my personal favorite) and restore them to your new rom installation. However, they do require root access. So as you are a novice to rooting and Modding, I suggest you unlock, root and backup everything before you do any experimenting.
2. All roms can use the market/play store, Although CyanogenMod requires it to be flashed as a seperate package.
3. Rom updates can vary. If the dev is active and there's bugs or features that still need to be implemented, then you can usually expect regular updates.
4. Maybe, No, Probably.
5. An RUU is a Rom Update Utility. They are official updates from HTC packaged in a .exe file, digitally signed, region coded and model coded.
Bootloader is hboot, accessed by pressing the button combo volume down + power when switching on your phone from a completely shut down state. Here you can do a factory reset and enter recovery or fastboot mode.
ADB is android Debug Bridge, which you can send commands from your PC to your phone typically via USB.

(1. If you're just unlocking and rooting, the phone will not appear any different. The apps will work just like they did beforehand. However, if you flash a custom rom, you will have a clean slate. There are apps that can back up all the apps and userdata on the phone(Titanium backup is my personal favorite) and restore them to your new rom installation. However, they do require root access. So as you are a novice to rooting and Modding, I suggest you unlock, root and backup everything before you do any experimenting.)
So I take this as I dont need to install a custom rom? What are some non custom roms and is there any really difference.
Oh and I forgot to ask - what are the radios and how do those work. All the radio info i have seen is a bit jumbled and not sure which radio would work with what rom with what carrier and what phone and so one

Reaper6181979 said:
(1. If you're just unlocking and rooting, the phone will not appear any different. The apps will work just like they did beforehand. However, if you flash a custom rom, you will have a clean slate. There are apps that can back up all the apps and userdata on the phone(Titanium backup is my personal favorite) and restore them to your new rom installation. However, they do require root access. So as you are a novice to rooting and Modding, I suggest you unlock, root and backup everything before you do any experimenting.)
So I take this as I dont need to install a custom rom? What are some non custom roms and is there any really difference.
Oh and I forgot to ask - what are the radios and how do those work. All the radio info i have seen is a bit jumbled and not sure which radio would work with what rom with what carrier and what phone and so one
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You will be installing a custom Rom if you want to notice difference in performance battery life and appearance. I suggest flashing nikhils Rom posted on march 7th as its a excellent first time users Rom, and it still uses sense UI. All he was saying is that you will lose all current apps and their data from your phone but not things like music, pictures, files on sd card etc. Once you root your phone and install the clockworkmod recovery you'll see an option from within it to create a nandroid backup which will back up your current phone state completely including all apps their data and all settings, just in case you mess something up. Once you get s-off and root you will be able to use titanium backup to save your apps data for use on your next Rom after flashing.
As for radios you only need to change them if your going from a froyo Rom to a gingerbread Rom. Otherwise these only slightly increse reception and WiFi strength. Worry about getting s-off, root and flashing your new Rom first than maybe later get into radios.
Follow instructions carefully and you shouldn't have any problems, good luck.
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Thank U both Very much - I will Have a look at the Post u stated. If I have any more questions I hope you don't mind me asking more lol

I assume U mean this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312021 - Now it says it needs a sep Kernel ( that later in the posts people cant find) . Doesnt the Rom have the Kernel? Do u do the Kernel after the rom is all install? and then How do u get the Market or Play reinstalled on it or do the roms come with it.
And what is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258 stuff for the Hboot and S-off - Not sure I understand all of that ether

Reaper6181979 said:
I assume U mean this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312021 - Now it says it needs a sep Kernel ( that later in the posts people cant find) . Doesnt the Rom have the Kernel? Do u do the Kernel after the rom is all install? and then How do u get the Market or Play reinstalled on it or do the roms come with it.
And what is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258 stuff for the Hboot and S-off - Not sure I understand all of that ether
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I'm not sure if his rom includes a kernel as he is posting links for recommended kernels on the first page.
The s-off page you linked to is not for this phone. Follow lynt's newb guide to unlock the bootloader, install recovery and root. Once rooted you should stop, install titanium, backup all apps and data, then install the 4ext recovery app and use it to flash the latest 4ext touch recovery as this makes things easier for s-on users to flash to the boot partition. Then do a nandroid backup using 4ext recovery.

Sorry OP, totally unrelated, but i think we need to declare Nonverbose, itsbeertimenow & tpbklake as the official sentinels or guardians of the IncS general section.
way to go guys

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Sorry OP, totally unrelated, but i think we need to declare Nonverbose, itsbeertimenow & topklake as the official sentinels or guardians of the IncS general section.
way to go guys
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Just from what Ive read - I 1000% agree and I am new here lol

Ok so my Info on the boot screen is
VIVO PVT S-On RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
Radio 3805.04.03.27.27_M
So what I gather is since that hboot is not 1.16 it should be ok and i shouldnt need to to do the one step to revert it down to 1.13?

Reaper6181979 said:
Ok so my Info on the boot screen is
VIVO PVT S-On RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
Radio 3805.04.03.27.27_M
So what I gather is since that hboot is not 1.16 it should be ok and i shouldnt need to to do the one step to revert it down to 1.13?
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Yes you can use revolutionary to root and install clockworkmod which can be used to flash a new rom or not if you just want to stay stock rooted.
Sent from my Incredible S using XDA

Easy steps:
1. Revolutionary s-off
2. Custom recovery
3. Backup everything using recovery
4. Install any rom u want ( guide to install is in the respective threads)
5. Take a backup of SD card in your PC
6. Do whatever pleases you that is related to rooted phones
7. Have fun... You just future proofed your device for another year
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk

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Ok so my Info on the boot screen is
VIVO PVT S-On RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
Radio 3805.04.03.27.27_M
So what I gather is since that hboot is not 1.16 it should be ok and i shouldnt need to to do the one step to revert it down to 1.13?
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That is correct. You can use Revolutionary.io to gain S-OFF and install ClockworkMod recovery on your phone and then you are good to go and enjoy the flashing of custom ROMs.

Yeah do revolutionary to get s-off, during the process it'll ask you if you want to install cwm hit yea and report your status here.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

Another side note: with your h-boot its generally impossible to brick your phone unless flashing radios (phone dies during process) or ruu's .
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You guys or girls seriously rock. Thanks so much for all the help. Think I'm gonna try on Sat after my CCNA class getting my nerd on. I like the Rom by Nil that was advised will try that me figures
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Reaper6181979 said:
You guys or girls seriously rock. Thanks so much for all the help. Think I'm gonna try on Sat after my CCNA class getting my nerd on. I like the Rom by Nil that was advised will try that me figures
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Cool beans, just checked out nikhills trinity Rom and there is no kernel to flash. All you have to do is follow the instructions and you'll be fine.
Another tip: when revolutionary asks you for a code to enter (not sure if it still does) copy and paste it or your going to get problems.
Also during your first wipe before install you can't wipe something wrong, just avoid sd card wiping lol.
When asked to place your .zip of the Rom in the root of your sd card, its unnecessary, you can navigate to it anywhere on your phone.
When the Rom installs for the first time it will take 3-5 minutes on the boot screen.
That should answer most of the questions your going to have in the near future.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

A friend at work showed me his newly rooted Desire with http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/affinity.html Thinking maybe this one due to the fact it has its own Kernel built in. seems very fast and Uber. Anyone else had experience with it with the Incredible s?

Virtuous roms are quite brilliant..
You will not be disappointed...
its a shame that they longer are in the XDA forums,
team virtuous is one of my all time favorites

Having the kernel is common with most roms, you will find your phone is much more 'user friendly' once rooted and custom rom installed. I run virtuous affinity and didn't have to do anything but root,backup and then flash the rom.
Bloatware gone, speed and battery life increased, more customisation available and enjoyment of my device is improved tenfold.
You won't regret it but will wonder why it took you so long to get around to doing it It's like a whole new device....

[Q] google g1 keeps rebooting at g1 screen

Hi my g1 keeps rebooting at the g1 screen only on the ezgingerbread rom it boots but 3g/edge doesnt work there. ive tried alot of roms and its always the same. I have used the search function.
Dream 32B
hboot 1.33.2005
radio 2.22.28.25
Does anybody know how to fix this?
Thanks

its probably your radio /spl are not supported in the roms you are choosing to flash, make sure you meet all requirements in the op of any rom you choose
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

The reason for your problems might be your unusual SPL / radio combo. EzGingerbread has auto-kernel included, so it's booting up fine, but probably the interface to the radio is not working fine. The other ROMs probably are installing a wrong kernel and so it boot-loops.
I suggest you to eiher install the 1.33.0013d spl or the 2.22.19.26 radio. Look at Terry's thread for more info! (A link is in my signature)
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Thank you i got it working i am now running :
hboot 1.33.0013d
radio 2.22.28.25
i couldnt find a image of 2.22.19.25 but its working thank you

I lied sorry not all roms work still the same issiue does anyone know where to get a radio image of 2.22.19.25 ?

anddisa mistyped, but he is right in your first issue, you now have the most up to date radio/spl combo more info here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26639740
some roms won't work with this unless you use the proper kernel. you don't need to change your radio but more info is needed. what roms are you trying to flash? have you ever used cmtd? what is your recovery? are you wiping between flashes? superwipe? fastboot -w?
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I have been using clockworkmod 2.5.0.7 i dont know what cmtd is but i've been using oshaka superwipe and just normal wiping with clockworkmod (factory reset and then cache). I wanted to flash lmc froyo and super e 1.0.3. and froyo cream sandwich. Froyo cream sandwich works but i dont like the theme. I have no ext partitions i had a 8gb class 6 sd card with ext4 but it just wouldt work on this phone using a 2gb sd card now.

I suggest using amonra recovery, it works better on the g1. super e will not work as is, you need a kernel to flash over it. I suggest the biffmodtest kernel found in ezterrys thread I linked. make sure to read the op of a thread and make sure you meet the requirements. cmtd is custom partition mapping. if you don't use it don't worry about it.
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sthij said:
Thank you i got it working i am now running :
hboot 1.33.0013d
radio 2.22.28.25
i couldnt find a image of 2.22.19.25 but its working thank you
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This combo is best, but 1.33.2005 / 2.22.19.26(!) would be fine, too, even with less memory available.
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I tried flashing the amon ra recovery via fastboot but theres a signature failure (FAILED remote signature verify fail) and i will test the biffmodtest kernel if i can get my recovery working. super e is working perfectly with the biffmod kernel i am not gonna mess with my phone any further since i am not having it long anymore. Thank you very much for all your help

now that you have the .13d spl write fastboot commands wont work (read the full op of ezterry's post)
i dont want to sound rude but all of your questions could have easily been answered by searching and reading. im afraid you are going to brick your phone if you dont do the appropriate reading to understand the process. it is very easy to brick a phone when flashing firmware, people make the same mistakes frequently; dont check md5sums, flash incompatible spl/radio, etc.
if you read the post you will see you would need to flash the orange.nbh through bootloader to regain an spl with fully working fastboot commands.
just be careful and make sure you understand what you are about to do so you dont end up with a paper weight

sthij said:
I tried flashing the amon ra recovery via fastboot but theres a signature failure (FAILED remote signature verify fail) and i will test the biffmodtest kernel if i can get my recovery working.
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You cannot fastboot flash recovery with the 1.33.0013d SPL. If you want to change it, you either need to use recovery, or you need to go the long way: flashing the orange-rom, flashing the recovery, flashing the 1.33.0013d SPL (the details are described in Terry's 2708-thread).
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