Hey there. I have the Nook HD+ and was using Cyanogenmod 10.1 for a while. I very much enjoyed using it, but eventually ran into an issue I hope to get resolved someway. One of the main things I'd like to do with my tablet is use it for emulators and for that I'd like to use a wii remote. Now, the issue with that is, as some of you may know,wii remotes no longer connect to android as of 4.2 due to some bluetooth change. What I've found out is that the remote will sync to the standard Nook OS, due to it being 4.1 or whatever.
So I guess my question would be this. Is there a way to use cyanogenmod and still get the wiimote functionality in some form? Is it possible to dual boot or something along those lines? As in use the stock Nook OS for emulation and cyanogen for other uses. I'm not very experienced when it comes to working with phone ROMs and such. And when I did search for things about dual booting it was paired with heavy use of jargon and I couldn't make heads or tails of it. I'm really looking for options for things I could go about doing here.
Thanks for your time
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Hey there. I have the Nook HD+ and was using Cyanogenmod 10.1 for a while. I very much enjoyed using it, but eventually ran into an issue I hope to get resolved someway. One of the main things I'd like to do with my tablet is use it for emulators and for that I'd like to use a wii remote. Now, the issue with that is, as some of you may know,wii remotes no longer connect to android as of 4.2 due to some bluetooth change. What I've found out is that the remote will sync to the standard Nook OS, due to it being 4.1 or whatever.
So I guess my question would be this. Is there a way to use cyanogenmod and still get the wiimote functionality in some form? Is it possible to dual boot or something along those lines? As in use the stock Nook OS for emulation and cyanogen for other uses. I'm not very experienced when it comes to working with phone ROMs and such. And when I did search for things about dual booting it was paired with heavy use of jargon and I couldn't make heads or tails of it. I'm really looking for options for things I could go about doing here.
Thanks for your time
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If CM10.1 (android 4.1) works with the wii remote, could you not go back to using that? What was the issue you mention running into?
In the development forum there are builds of CM10.1 and the latest stock OS that can run off an sd card rather than installing to the device, so you can have a kind of dual boot situation where you just pop the sd card in when you want to use that operating system. That might work for your situation.
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Hey there. I have the Nook HD+ and was using Cyanogenmod 10.1 for a while. I very much enjoyed using it, but eventually ran into an issue I hope to get resolved someway. One of the main things I'd like to do with my tablet is use it for emulators and for that I'd like to use a wii remote. Now, the issue with that is, as some of you may know,wii remotes no longer connect to android as of 4.2 due to some bluetooth change. What I've found out is that the remote will sync to the standard Nook OS, due to it being 4.1 or whatever.
So I guess my question would be this. Is there a way to use cyanogenmod and still get the wiimote functionality in some form? Is it possible to dual boot or something along those lines? As in use the stock Nook OS for emulation and cyanogen for other uses. I'm not very experienced when it comes to working with phone ROMs and such. And when I did search for things about dual booting it was paired with heavy use of jargon and I couldn't make heads or tails of it. I'm really looking for options for things I could go about doing here.
Thanks for your time
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With the latest update ( 2.1.1 ), the stock Nook HD+ is ICS 4.0.4. Google broke Android's bluetooth support with Jellybean 4.2+, and CM and others are trying to fix it but with limited success. You can dual boot by running an alternate OS off of the SD Card. I run stock 2.1.1 from SD Card as per:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2330083
With a supported 16/32GB SD Card you can have plenty of room for all kinds of roms for emulators.
However, I would rather not use the WiiMote for emulators. Rather, GameStop has a $9.99 bluetooth wireless controller for Android Tablets that purportedly still works with CM 10.1/2 and has analog sticks and all. I plan to get one of those, but they are sold out online and I just haven't made the trek to a GameStop that has them....
Gamestop no longer has those blu tooth controllers, but the gamestop red samurai
works very well...I just got one a few weeks ago. $ 19.99
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Im thinking of getting this and using it to replace my netbook. Does anybody know if I can hook up a bluetooth mouse and keyboard? Has anybody tried this or have any thoughts?
No, not yet anyway. Bluetooth doesn't work with the NC, although there has been some development work in progress to enable bluetooth, as it seems to be built in, just disabled.
Haha I actually bought my nook as a replacement for my netbook .
I don't use a mouse or keyboard (You can't, as far as I know), but it seems to be serving its purpose fairly well.
you can always add in a stylus as well.
check out this thread, i think theyre talking about different ones that would work on the nook color.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896838
I'm actually on my way back to the netbook at this point. I just can't get text down quick enough on this device.
I use a netbook as my primary computer.
In no way can the Nook replace it.
The Nook is my fooling around device, and my only android device.
The nook color in my opinion is a great netbook replacement. A netbook's main purpose is to be light, small and look stuff up online easily, all things the nook color excels at. It can play music, load youtube (if using eclair) and use most of google's (online) apps. Also rooted dolphin works pretty well as a desktop web-browser.
personally i have a laptop,used for multi tasking, video editing, watching 1080p movies but i recently bought the Nook Color and planning on rooting it. the Uses of the Nook Color would be browsing the internet , playing games on the go.
I also ordered the Notion Ink Adam which i am also planning to use but it is much more powerful than the Nook Colo so ill see which one i prefer
I bought the nook color to replace my netbook as well but I do have a real laptop as well. I was primarily using my old eeepc for reading since I bought my normal laptop, a Toshiba protégé R705, which I also love by the way, so the nookColor made sence. I don't think I could use the nookcolor as my only computer.
Poor man's Ipad/Netbook...
I use my Nook Color almost just like a netbook. Rooted and optimized, it performs almost all the same functions I need in a netbook. I read on it, I study with it, browse the internet with it, check email, etc, etc, etc. That said, the Nook Color will never replace a computer with a real keyboard. If I have to type anything greater than an email, I switch to the nearest desktop at my university's library.
All things considered, the Nook Color provides almost all of the functions that the Ipad or a netbook does, but at less than half the price. That's a steal!
I'd love to replace carrying a laptop with the nook for school. I went from a dell 700m to an aspire one and found a huge difference in back pain after a day. Now I'm carrying the cr48 but that will cut down a lot if I could use a bt keyboard with the nook. Hopefully the hardcore XDA devs will make a breakthrough on it before too long. Without a keyboard, you just can't input data fast enough.
After I got my NC I planned on keeping my netbook. But after using it for 2 days, I didn't touch it. So I sold it. Haven't looked back. Oh and for flash I use Skyfire. Works fine for me.
I still have a use for my CR-48, at least at this point. The nook doesn't work quite well enough and isn't quite powerful enough for netbook use. Perhaps once bluetooth is working in ubuntu I can replace my laptop, but not until then.
The Nook is currently acting as my computer when I prefer to be away from my main laptop. After working all day in IT, sometimes the last thing I want is staring at the computer when I come home. The Nook is perfect for checking Reddit, my e-mail, playing a few games, accessing my music collection via Subsonic, and catching up on my reading. Perfect 2nd computer!
The Nook is a great media CONSUMPTION device. I think I would never use it as a netbook replacement. Trying to use an onscreen keyboard to type out anything of any length is just painful.
I really like thumbkeyboard to type on, but still it can't compare to a full size laptop keyboard for me
I love my nook! Use it all the time, oddly enough a fair percentage for actually reading B&N e-books. It could never replace my Dell Mini 10 netbook, though, for one very simple reason. I chose a netbook that still had an ethernet port on purpose, but ethernet connectivity simply does *not* exist on any android devices that i'm aware.
I use my netbook to test ethernet connections at work (I'm in IT), and I could never do that with nook unless it had a working ethernet dongle.
Ever since the my Incredible days I enjoyed toting a Wii remote on trips for playing NES, Snes and so on. I always envied the EVO for being able to do it with that massive screen. It ony really needed a kickstand and it be the perfect pocket gaming machine. Well ever since I got the ThunderBolt I hoped one day it would be possible. Thanks to Slayer and Cyanogen 7 Mod plus all the other hard working Devs this is now a reality.
Here We Go !
Tools needed
Must be ROOTED !
Wii remote MUST be OEM except the Mini Wii remote. :: Only ones I found to work, no Nyko's:: - Optional, this is not needed to play
Cyanogen 7 Mod :: I run update-cm-7.1.0-RC0.1, why? because CM uses Bluetooth Stack 2.0 unlike stock sense or other roms, Gingerbread Natively does not even run this that I know of.
Find it in this thread :: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049542
Nesoid Lite or Premium, this is LIte link :: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidemu.neslite&feature=search_result
Not needed if you don't have Wiimote:: WiiController for bluetooth connection find it here :: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.ccpcreations.android.WiiUseAndroid&feature=search_result
ROMS :: FInd it.........Yourself, don't be Lazy or ask me, all of the above items are free. you can afford to find these on your own.
If you don't have a Wiimote you can stop right here and use onscreen controls with Nesoid.
OK onto the fun !
First things first, install everything
1. Turn bluetooth on
2. Go into keyboard settings in menu and enable the Wii IME for the controller
3. Go into a message or email, somewhere you can type, long press and select input method, then select Wii controller.
4. Go to your Wii controller app and select Init and Connect
5. Hit the Sync button on the controller ::located under battery door, red button:: or press buttons 1 and 2 at the same time. all the blue lights on the Wii remote should flash now. The phone should find your Wii remote and set player number 1 light to lit. Press some Wii controller buttons, you should see them register on screen.
6 Ok almost good to go, the settings are remembered from this point on, go into nesoid load a Rom up, hit menu on your phone, go to settings Audio/Video set the Aspect Ratio to 16:9
7.Back out one click and go to Other Settings, Check the check box labeled Use Input Method.
8. Go back another click again, go to Input Settings Uncheck Virtual Keypad check box.
9. Go to keymappings in the same menu tap under Pad 1 your button you want to input then hit the corrisponding button on your Wii remote.
10. Back out till you get to the game you loaded and have fun!
Other Notes ::
When you're done playing you wil have to go into a message and select your keyboard Input method to your Keyboard in order to be able to type again.
This setup can also be used with the Classc retro Wii remote plugged into the Wii controller.
This will also work with Snesoid, Genoid, GBA, N64oid, and PSX Emultators.
PS3 and Xbox 360 controllers CAN'T be used. Why? because I said so.....No in reality, Sony encrypts PS3's bluetooth protocol. So till a Dev releases a new App to decode it you're out of luck. Xbox 360 uses 2.4 GHZ Technology not Bluetooth so nope will not work.
Shout out to Slayer and his Wife along with all the other Devs working on the ThunderBolt. Thank you for all the hard work you do to bring us Cyanogen 7 Mod and making things like this possible.
Credit goes to all the other Devs out there for making apps like WiiController and Nesoid avalible on Android
Only On Android.
Very nice write up. Thank you
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I'm pretty sure you can set the Wiimote program to revert back to the default keyboard when you turn off Bluetooth or turn off your Wiimote. I'm probably going to do this at some point this week (or just wait for the "stable" CM7), since this is what I miss most from my OG Droid.
very nice!! I've been wanting to use a wii remote for a while now. thanx for the write up.
Wish I still had my wii now . Possible you have a link on getting a PS3 controller working with CM7? I've been looking all around and just finding all old outdated stuff.
g00s3y said:
Wish I still had my wii now . Possible you have a link on getting a PS3 controller working with CM7? I've been looking all around and just finding all old outdated stuff.
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You can't, far as I remember this has been dropped due to the security type Sony uses to encrypt the Bluetooth signal on Ps3 controllers. The protocol only recently was figured out where it can easily be connected on PC. So if even close to possible a dev would still need to develop a app capable of decoding and then recognizing inputs from the Ps3 controller.
before it's asked - Why can't I use a Xbox360 Controller? it does not use Bluetooth, it uses 2.4 GHZ signal.
You're welcome to all those that had success, I know how hard it is to find a detailed guide with setup info. Ths is what i figured out from my own tinkering.
As for Cm7 stable version, Cm7 is very stable, I had alot of issues with the new release but tried the .1 version from Slayer's Twitter and low and behold I had no more bugs and Cm7 runs almost flawless. I say almost cause I have not found any bugs yet but i'm sure there are some.
If Wii controller is able to remember settngs like tha let me know , i'll gladly update the guide.
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You can't, far as I remember this has been dropped due to the security type Sony uses to encrypt the Bluetooth signal on Ps3 controllers. The protocol only recently was figured out where it can easily be connected on PC. So if even close to possible a dev would still need to develop a app capable of decoding and then recognizing inputs from the Ps3 controller.
before it's asked - Why can't I use a Xbox360 Controller? it does not use Bluetooth, it uses 2.4 GHZ signal.
You're welcome to all those that had success, I know how hard it is to find a detailed guide with setup info. Ths is what i figured out from my own tinkering.
As for Cm7 stable version, Cm7 is very stable, I had alot of issues with the new release but tried the .1 version from Slayer's Twitter and low and behold I had no more bugs and Cm7 runs almost flawless. I say almost cause I have not found any bugs yet but i'm sure there are some.
If Wii controller is able to remember settngs like tha let me know , i'll gladly update the guide.
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Ok, thanks. I figured it wasn't anymore, that's why everything I was getting was from 3+ years ago.
now if only we could get emulators to work with dlna and use the thunderbolt as a portable gaming system for compatible tv sets
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You can't, far as I remember this has been dropped due to the security type Sony uses to encrypt the Bluetooth signal on Ps3 controllers. The protocol only recently was figured out where it can easily be connected on PC.
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I connected my PS3 controller to my PC back in 08, it was running XP. It wasn't hard, I only did it for the novelty of it, never used it for emulators
eraursls1984 said:
I connected my PS3 controller to my PC back in 08, it was running XP. It wasn't hard, I only did it for the novelty of it, never used it for emulators
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Yea but the issue was you needed Glove Pie, a compatible bluetooth adapter, the script for Glove Pie. It was more a hassle then anything. Now I heard you can use Xpadder with a one click connect buton.
thanks for the informative write up I am gonna have to try this sounds awesome
Thank you for the write up! I'm running BAMF 2.0.3 at the moment but plan on trying CM7 sometime soon so I'll keep this thread bookmarked!
I went ahead and went this route to avoid switching ROMs all the time
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146205
Wow, this is freaking cool! Thanks for the write-up!
Life together for each of the devices. This is a thread to discuss how to use the nook, touchPad, and PC together. Here we can point out each of these strength and weakness. Plus how we use them to complement each other. I really like have a 7" and 10" pad that in both cases is impossible to brick. At the current price points it is nice to have both if you are lucky enough to find the touchPad.
In the short time that I have owned the touchPad, I have found it nice to use all three of them. I thought it we be nice to have a thread to discuss how we use these together and what each of them strengths and weakness are.
First use was the PC to find the touchPad in stock. Not easy, but on my third attempt the PC located a Best Buy with one and I was lucky enough to get it.
PC stutters, nook to the rescue. I am on vacation at my son's. He has no wifi but outside his apartments there was a public spot available. I used the nook browser to display information that was needed for the initial setup.
TouchPad helps get thread started. My Bluetooth keyboard is always disconnecting with my nook. I have to continually press the connect button on it to type after it goes to sleep. Motorola same Bluetooth keyboard works fine with the Touchpad. At home I would just have switched the nook to a USB host keyboard and used the XDA app to type.
NOOK Color
The nook with CM7 is way more polished and has way more apps. If I really have to get some work done on the road, I use it. Big brother is there to help the TouchPad when it needs it.
TouchPad
I like the big screen for many things. I like how the Bluetooth keyboard works, but when I attempted to use the Bluetooth mouse, no love. Back to using my stylus.
PC
We really need the old guy to assist with its two roommates. Could not use either without its help.
I'm in the same boat. I use the touchpad the most now. I love how snappy and responsive webOS is and the browser is miles ahead of the gingerbread browser. Every once in a while I jump back to my nook if I want to do some reading or play words with friends, but for the most part I find the full web browsing experience on the touchpad to be exactly what I need. The video playback is also miles ahead, but I don't tend to watch videos on tablets that much. I still prefer the 7" screen for reading and the smaller size makes thumb typing insanely easier on the nook. The Nook is the one I'll take out of the house with me, as the touchpad is too big and heavy, and the nook has a lot more apps to keep me busy when there's no internet connection available.
Try to keep the thread rich but
1. I don't have a TouchPad. Where do you find apps (both paid and free) for webOS?
2. What is PC? Personal Computer? PC running Windows 7? PC stutters???
I recently got a carrying case for about $8 for my kfhd. It also comes with a built in keyboard, which is very cool. To see if I could use it, I also purchased a micro USB to USB in order to connect, but it doesn't work at all.
I'm assuming this is because of the closed os. Once a bypass or stable ROM gets released, will using an external keyboard ever be a possibility?
I've seen the nexus 7 connected to a micro keyboard via usb so its a possibility if you went with a straight android ROM, but the bootloader still needs to be cracked first. I can't remember if the KFHD has bluetooth, otherwise you can try bluetooth keyboard.
Edit: appears that KFHD only has bluetooth for headphones and speakers according to their site. I just returned my KFHD and got a Nexus 7 and typing with my HP touchpad bluetooth keyboard on my Nexus 7 Small things like this, not even being able to use an external keyboard right off the bat adds to the list of returning the KFHD making me go with another device.
Yes, I suppose it's only a matter of time before someone gets the bootloader to work.
I'm hoping my time invested in waiting will pay off with better hardware capabilities
I didn't want to play that wild card so I returned my KFHD and picked up the N7. There were devs exchanging comments on a thread in the general section but any talk on there seems to have ceased, so that is not a good sign in my opinion. I'm sure they are working on it and I'll kick myself when the bootloader unlocks but its not a chance I can take right now.
If you have a BT keyboard in hand, doesn't hurt to try. Someone said they got a BT game controller to work.
Specs:
B&N NookHD+
Android Version 4.3
Kernel Version 3.0.31-green+
[email protected] #1
Fri Aug 30 05:35:43 PDT 2013
CyanogenMod version
10.2-20130830-NIGHTLY-ovation
First off, thanks to those who respond with help to my situation. I definitely appreciate it.
Problem: I bought a NookHD+ off of craigslist as an affordable alternative to a tablet PC. I'd like to watch some episodes of netflix and hulu and youtube on my TV with it. I bought the HDMI adapter for the NookHD+. Unfortunately it's not working and I think it's because it was flashed?/rooted? to a different OS. This is not booting from a memory card, it's booting internally. I'm not an expert with these so the boards are a bit confusing when it comes to rooting, etc. I have tried two different fairly new TV's. The TV's do not even sense an input signal.
Questions: Shouldn't I just be able to connect the HDMI adapter and have output even with the CyanogenMod OS? If so how? If not how do I get back to the original NookHD+ OS? Any other ideas as to why the HDMI output is not working?
Edit: It appears that it should be possible with cm on the nooks. It is searchable as I know it was brought up before. I was thinking about mhl which doesn't work.
Also it looks like your on a terribly old and gimped 10.2 build. Could also be your problem. Update to the latest.
leapinlar I believe has a way to go back to official bn rom in the event you didn't create a backup. If you did [create a backup] it could be as simple as rebooting into recovery, backing up, wiping, then restoring.
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Edit: It appears that it should be possible with cm on the nooks. It is searchable as I know it was brought up before. I was thinking about mhl which doesn't work.
Also it looks like your on a terribly old and gimped 10.2 build. Could also be your problem. Update to the latest.
leapinlar I believe has a way to go back to official bn rom in the event you didn't create a backup. If you did [create a backup] it could be as simple as rebooting into recovery, backing up, wiping, then restoring.
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Thank you, I will try to update the build to the latest one first.
Jmoon said:
Thank you, I will try to update the build to the latest one first.
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Just updated to the latest build and found two things:
1. My nook is operating much better
2. That HDMI adapter has to be surgically attached in order to function. Literally if it moves a little bit the TV will lose signal. That was probably my main issue but the update helped too.
Thanks again for the assistance.