Non-Removable battery question - Moto X Q&A

I'm going out on a limb and recommending a Moto X to a friend. But I have a question.
Background: I've been an Android phone user since 2009. I've owned Motorola, HTC and Samsung. There is one thing that has occurred on every one of my phones at one time or another. In fact, it just happened on my Note 2 which is why I decided to come here. The problem is that the phone freezes. Screen is on, but it's just frozen and nothing works. No button works. I hold the power button for a long time, maybe two minutes. Nothing. Screen is still stuck.
With a removable battery the solution is simple, just pull the battery and everything is fine. All of my phones have had removable batteries so I can solve this problem. But if the battery isn't removable then what's the solution?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this happens frequently. It's rare. In fact, today's occurrence is the first time it's happened on my Note 2 since I got it 8 months ago. But if I had a fixed battery phone I wouldn't know how to recover from this problem.

Volume down + power button for 10 seconds is a hard reset, while not quite as good as a battery pull you really have to break something for that not to work.

or just holding the power button till it restarts
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Yeah this was the first question I was asking before getting this phone because I also had Android phones with all removable batteries. Not just so I can do a battery pull if I needed to but also for extra power such as multiple batteries or a larger capacity one. That's why I ditched the HTC one and any other phone with no removable battery but the moto x I just had to get. So now I got to get one of those portable power chargers.
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I'm pretty sure holding the power button always works.
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[Q] nexus one wont turn on.... BROKEN POWER BUTTON... im dessesperated!

hi, i think there are a million of post like this, but my problem is diferent:
1) power button started to fail
2)used brutal force to turn it on, till it broke....
3) now the button dont even tik when i touch the button , its DEAD.
4) saw a lot of posts about removing battery, its not working for me!!
5) yesterday i got it to boot afther 100 battery removals.... and enter recovery and it was all black... wierd..
6)i cant turn it on!! anyone can help please
7)I DONT WANT TO CHANGE MY NEXUS FOR AN XPERIA X8.... im a dev and i cant work with my power button broken
Same problem here
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Do yourself a favor and just get a flex cable replacement. The prices are around $40 and they aren't too bad to replace.
Popping the battery in and out should be real quick
I had the same problem . Just plug in the charger and keep removing and putting the battery back real fast till it comes on. Usually will within ten times . Its a sureshot. Thank if it helps.
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tojnas said:
I had the same problem . Just plug in the charger and keep removing and putting the battery back real fast till it comes on. Usually will within ten times . Its a sureshot. Thank if it helps.
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It hardly takes 2 mins if done properly
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i agree with 2 post above...
connect your charger into led indicator turn on
pull N1 battery
after led is turn off...put the battery back fast...
gud luck
Charger and battery pull works fine, I dud this for almist a year. I replaced the flex board a month ago to regain the button use. I must say that the Chinese boards have a snappier button and denser support foam for the button. Only $50 for the board on eBay. Very easy to replace. Good luck!
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Note flickering when battery is almost dead

Hi everyone, I've experienced a problem in these last days.
Using google I found a guy who had my same problem, as it appears in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZQ-hbAClvE&feature=player_embedded
Never happened before I changed battery (I had the one given with the note, but last week I put another one of the two I bought, always by Samsung). One should be actually damaged because it gave me not only this problem, but several messages on screen like "battery disconnected". With the other one I started using today everything was fine until it arrived to 11% - it's not reliable though because I didn't make in time to calibrate the battery - and then it start flickering and shutted down.
Anybody know anything about this?!
I also have the same problem, I've read that should be normal, and it does not occur with some batteries. It should be due to the power supply
AleksZ86 said:
I also have the same problem, I've read that should be normal, and it does not occur with some batteries. It should be due to the power supply
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so there's nothing to worry about? because it happened to me 3 times and twice the Note asked me to change the time, since it was resetted to 1/1/2000... and it didn't sound normal to me :/
I saw this, too, just before my Note had major filesystem corruption. I can't think of any other reason for it. I wrote it all up over in the Q&A section.
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Not adding a solution, just more info for diagnosis: My phone gets this when I'm down to 2% and using a cheapo gold battery off eBay. So maybe battery-quality is something to do with it.
As far as I know, it doesn't happen when I use the official battery.
Scared me the first few times, but it's happened five times and not damaged my Note in any way (although naturally I turn it off, give it a minute, and then start charging it back up).
well, I really hope this has nothing to do with battery quality because I bought them as ORIGINAL batteries! but they could be fake though, that's why it would be interesting to check some kind of serial to let us know if they're official or just fakes. In this case I would ask for the refund and use the old battery...
about the file system corruption, could be the battery the cause of that? because until the day I've used my original battery I haven't experienced any of these issues, so that's why I relate the battery to the problem of flickering... and that's why I don't absolutely want this junk to power my Note!
I didn't had that problem until I switched to Hydracore kernel. Now it flickers violently even under 20 % battery.
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gnotelover97 said:
I didn't had that problem until I switched to Hydracore kernel. Now it flickers violently even under 20 % battery.
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That's when mine flickered, too, and I got my corruption.
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Same here.i bought my galaxy about 2 weeks ago.so its fresh. Most of the time when battry drops to 2 or 1% the screen colors going weird and finally a flashing of screen then boom going off.
Its abviously from battry voltage.
Dont forget the screen is amoled.this behavior might be from this kind of technology.
Anyway nothing wrong here so far....
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Same here. I have two Hyperion batteries and the screen flickers when the battery is about to die. I've noticed it also does this on the OEM battery as well.
Didn't do this on Gingerbread just on ICS.
StefanoDurden said:
Anybody know anything about this?!
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Moved To Q&A​
Its a question, so belongs in the Q&A section.​
Your Note would flicker because it's trying to get more juice out on a a battery that is almost about to ran out...
Moreover, a cheapo replacement battery or an original one that has been wrongly calibrated before would also have this kind of a symptom.
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Moved To Q&A​
Its a question, so belongs in the Q&A section.​
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I'm sorry, you're right... thanks for moving the post, I'll be more careful!
I don't get it:
Yesterday night the phone was in airplane mode with a 60-70% charge.
This morning the phone is dead, and I needed to charge it again; after 10 minutes I switched on the device and... voilà, the battery level is 50%. WTF?!
I think I'll stay a couple of days more with this battery and then go back with my old one, asking the seller for a refund for both batteries.
Flickers on mine too.
I assumed it was normal.
Ye isnt it normal?
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Dude send your note to samsung service. Had the same situation. I send mine and they said that my battery port is grounded. My battery also became bloated. They will channge my motherboard for warranty.. hope i helped
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dead
My N7000 battery just died with the same symptoms. Damn, I hate samsung! :crying:
I can barely hear the sound of PWM charger for 5 seconds, and then just popping sound for about a minute-three! It's a dead cycle
i also experience that problem when i bought a new battery..but after few days it was gone..
suggest getting your note to service center better.

Almost sent tablet for repair due to crash

Today my nexus 7 did the strangest thing; it was charging but the screen would not turn on. The screen was black, but it was on with small white static appearing every so often.
I could not reboot the tablet or anything it was dead for all concerned. I called Asus and they told me to send it in.( I tried holding power for 30 sec)
I packed it but decided to try it one more time( several hours later)' the battery was dead so I plugged it in expecting the same dead screen and static but instead it started charging... the tablet now seems to be working fine.
I guess the point of this post is to tell people to check there tablets after they let the battery die before they send it back for repair , it may have just crashed and not be broken. We may have to let it die since we can't remove our battery or have a reset button.
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This happened to me yesterday. I didn't panic though, knew it would come back to life eventually. Glad it was the same case for you.
It happened to me when I tried to charge it and use it when it had 0% left. I just let it charge a little and it was fine.
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[Q] Is the permanent battery a problem with bricking?

Hi guys, I'm looking at getting the One, but I'm a little worried about the battery. I know several other recent phones have had non-removeable batteries as well, so can anyone with one of them ease my mind? Have their been any big problems with rooting/rom loading "soft-bricking" or locking up that could normally be solved by pulling the battery, but had no solution since you couldn't? I'm just so used to pulling my battery to solve so many lockup issues that it gives me a little pause.
my evo lte has internal battery and if i need to hard reboot just hold vol+,-, and power all a once for a few secs
Holding the power button for about ten seconds is coded to be the same as a battery pull
most phones that have a non-removable battery has some feature to mimic a battery pull usually with a button hold combo, on the iphone its holding down the power and home button down for about 10 seconds.
There's really nothing to worry about. It did worry me at first but the simulated battery pull is fast and easy
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Thanks so much, guys. I feel much better now.
Hi! This is my first time having a phone with non removable battery also. The above answeres were hard reboot. But what if I flashed a wrong kernel into the device? Even if I hard reboot it I will still be stuck on a reboot loop.
So my question is other than a hard reboot is there a button combination also for a complete shutdown? So I could boot into fastboot mode.
Riyal said:
Hi! This is my first time having a phone with non removable battery also. The above answeres were hard reboot. But what if I flashed a wrong kernel into the device? Even if I hard reboot it I will still be stuck on a reboot loop.
So my question is other than a hard reboot is there a button combination also for a complete shutdown? So I could boot into fastboot mode.
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Hold down volume down and power until it shuts off then let go of power
With my one x and one x plus this brings you to the boot loader
So its never been a problem for me, so don't worry
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superchilpil said:
Hold down volume down and power until it shuts off then let go of power
With my one x and one x plus this brings you to the boot loader
So its never been a problem for me, so don't worry
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Nice! Thanks for the information!
Please be aware that non removable batteries comes with a main disadvantage from my point of view. As time will pass the battery will loose it's efficiency and you will find yourself in the situation to recharge it twice a day sometimes. Another issues comes if the phone will be discharged until there is no power in the battery and you will find it difficult to recharge it again or to go into bootloader. I experienced similar issues with my HOS as, after 6 month of intensive usage (on stock rom, non rooted) one day it was drained completely in a couple of hours and just died in my pocket and then it took me a couple of hours to get it back to life again.
cheers
alterman666 said:
Please be aware that non removable batteries comes with a main disadvantage from my point of view. As time will pass the battery will loose it's efficiency and you will find yourself in the situation to recharge it twice a day sometimes. Another issues comes if the phone will be discharged until there is no power in the battery and you will find it difficult to recharge it again or to go into bootloader. I experienced similar issues with my HOS as, after 6 month of intensive usage (on stock rom, non rooted) one day it was drained completely in a couple of hours and just died in my pocket and then it took me a couple of hours to get it back to life again.
cheers
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You could've got a battery replacement from HTC store
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Also like i said this is not an issue on li-po batteries. I have one on my xperia phone. Been using it for 2years and 3months now still no degration on capacity. I could still watch videos for 5hours nonstop in a 1500mAh on gingerbread at least
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[Q] battery trick

hi, I'm having difficulties doing the battery trick with a particular nexus one phone. I have a second one, and it's not as hard to do with that second one. but my 'daily driver' is really driving me nuts, it can sometimes take over an hour to get the damn thing going, and it gets exponantially frustrating when flashing roms and having to do battery pulls because adb reboot won't work. Using different charges don't really help, but sometimes I get more lucky with a wall charger instead of a usb wire in a usb to wall charger
So, what triggers the battery bootup? is it a voltage boost? could I trigger it by sticking a second charger's stripped wires in the battery pins? I even have 2 extra batteries with the same voltage, if that can help anything!
What is a battery trick
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battery trick is to plug the charger in the usb port, then remove and reinsert the battery a few times because the power button is defective - a common problem with nexus ones
my profile is too new to post a youtube link
Not sure why its not working for you but you can get a replacement button for less then $15 and it takes less then 10 min to fix
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When I fixed mine about a year ago I just searched on eBay, it comes as the whole flex cable. I have fixed a lot of electronics over the years so I just took it apart and replaced it but I'm sure if you search there will be a disassembly guide somewhere. If you get stuck feel free to ask though
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Battery trick not working except in a certain house
I know this is an old thread but since I'm currently forced to use my nexus one (broken power button, repaired once under warranty, broke agai) as a temporary replacement, I've had to deal with the battery trick issue again.
I DON'T GET IT. Back when it was my main phone, the BATTERY TRICK worked fine, took a few times max. Now I have collated all the info I can find on how to do it (some of which is actually conflicting) and it WILL NOT WORK, except if I do it at my girlfriends house which MAKES NO SENSE.
IT IS NOT:
1.) The charger (various brands/both USB and wall socket)
2.) THe battery (authentic HTC battery)
3.) It doesn't work whether its fully charged (GREEN LIGHT) or charging up (ORANGE LIGHT)
4.) It doesnt work when I do it 20 times in a row with the "correct" timing (battery back in JUST as the light turns off), and not when I do it 20 times in the way which this video does it (waits for one orange flash before reinsertion)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O5adV-jj64&feature=relmfu
5.) Have tried removing sim and sd card, charging it for days, just EVERYTHING.
Sorry just venting as this just boggles my mind.
Anyone have any input on this age old issue? What's weirdest is that it used to work fine for me around 2012. And no, not buying the goddamn flex for 30 dollars, I have enough issues getting my One X+ diagnosed (been waiting 3-4 weeks on some incompetent repair shop).

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