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Hello,
on my Diamond, I have e-mail receiving set to "manually" and both weather downloading options unchecked. However, very often, the phone tries to connect to GPRS without asking me for permission. Few days ago, I was playing with my phone, what caused turning off NoData (I dunno why - I have neither turned the Internet profile to "enable" in its settings nor uninstalled NoData). A few moments later, I was VERY suprised to see that.. phone was connected to the GPRS for over 40 minutes! I thought that it'd make my bill like $50 higher. However, it raised my bill for only ~$0,5. I have no idea neither why did it connect nor what did it wanted to do with GPRS connection. Do you have such problems either? What's the matter? How can I fix this so my phone won't want to connect without my demand? Thanks in advance.
NoData should be enough, but I don't know why it reset to enabled if you didn't do this yourself? That said, all it does is toggle some registry settings so perhaps one of the other 'tweak' apps (have you got any installed?) reset the settings...?
Mathew
Yeah, I think that other tweaking apps could make it - that was my first thought. I have Diamond Tweak and Advanced Config installed and I was playing with them, so they could change the settings. My problem though is not to make Diamond unable to connect GPRS - because NoData does everything I want in that matter. I want to know why Diamond wants to connect, while forecast and e-mails checking are off. It'd be great to know that, because maybe then it'd be possible to be sure that (even without NoData) Diamond wouldn't connect to the Internet when we don't want it to do it.
With gprs it's all about the traffic.. the more you download, the more you pay.. I deleted the settings, so it can't connect, even when it wants to.. Only use wifi anyway..
U can enable NoData, but I think it's still possible to manually turn on the connection. NoData won't work then, unless you re-enable and softreset..
djind - oh man, I know how does GPRS work and what do I pay for..
I'll repeat once again, cause I think not everyone got this right. I want to know, WHY does Diamond want to connect to GPRS if it DOESN'T want to download forecast or e-mails. I'd love to have no situations with Diamond trying to connect - without NoData, without deleting settings. Just NO CONNECTING without my CLEAR DEMAND.
Then, please tell me what can make my Diamond want to connect.
You said u were playing around, so opening a page or checking and immediately unchecking weather download or any program using gprs would trigger the connection.. or mayme by accident pressed something..
It's done like that to increase your phone company's income
How about disabling the gprs auto-attachment option found in diamindtweak (or was it advanced config)
Just delete the setting if nothing work, and use wifi...
I actually have unlimited 3G service, so i don't really care if it stayed connected or not (and battery is not really a issue for me..)
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How about disabling the gprs auto-attachment option found in diamindtweak (or was it advanced config)
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That's not going to help in this instance. Disabling auto-attachment merely stops the phone resgistering itself as a GPRS-enabled device with the network until it actually requires a data connection to be established. Hence, as soon as the OP's 'rogue app' requests a connection it will get one.
Tigrowski, sorry for the confusion - I was specifically answering your question of how to stop the phone connecting without your demand. I am not aware of an app that could identify this rogue app, but perhaps if you find a packet sniffer that'd give you some clues (i.e. from where the traffic is going, ports etc and, if using cleartext ASCII the actual data being sent).
All said and done though, I think you'd be better of just relying on NoData to put the barrier up as even when you've identified the rogue app you might not be able to make it behave. Besides which there'll likely be another one round the corner wanting to connect when it feels like it! (that was one of the reasons behind why NoData was developed, particularly for roaming users given the significant financial impact of out-of-control network-enabled apps)
Mathew
P.S. It's not QuickGPS periodically downloading almanac data is it? (check the setting as this can be controlled, although it should only be doing so weekly anyway)
I've just got a Touch Diamond, so I'm pretty much noobie at this. So I don't have any internet data plan from my wireless provider(att), and I don't really want 1 at the moment. With that said, here's my question(s) - When I first turned on the phone, the data connection option was on, so I turn it off. Now that option is greyed-out, or disabled. I read in the manual that you can't turn it back on if you disable it, why is this?
Even though that option is disabled, an "H", or sometimes "3G", still appears on the upper-right of the screen. Apparently the internet still works because I saw the charge on my online att account(I thought I was using Wi-Fi). Can someone who is knowledgeable in these things tell me why?
do a hard reset to fix this
Alright, I really need some help from the big boys here.
I have had my N1 since release. I have T-Mobile and no data plan. Everything I do is over wifi.
On Friday, I saw the 3g icon on my phone for the first time. It appeared out of nowhere and just flips between 3G and E since T-Mobile just blocks data for non-plan users. This was killing the battery life of the phone.
I called Google and they ran me through *#*#4636#*#* to disable the data connection. This fixed the problem for a while; However after a while the phone will give a message that there is no service provider and will reconnect to T-Mobile (it has never done this before outside of phone boots). When it is back up the 3G/E cycling starts again. Even worse the data connection still lists as disabled and will not re-enable. I have to pop the battery out while it is running to get back in to disable it.
Google thinks its an app but I have removed everything but Touchdown and K9 which I don't think are the problem. I have used Android OS Monitor and I do see connections to 64.15.75.218 and 209.44.107.13 which are hot beds for malware and when I uninstall any app these connections vanish temporarily. But they come back after a few hours.
Anyone seen this before or know a way to track IP connections to a particular app?
I have no solution for tracing 'malicious' software but it is possible to just disable all mobile data usage.
Settings/Wireless and network settings/ Mobile networks > "Data enabled"
If you unselect this there should be no more data transfer while on the mobile network.
I do not have that option. Google Rep said it was only in froyo.
Problem is I did the same thing for 2.1 but it keeps coming back on. Even with wifi the phone connects to these ips so who knows what it is doing.
3G isn't used only for data, you can do voice on 3G.
Could be T-Mobile expanding 3g into your are where you didn't have coverage before.
Call T-Mobile and make sure you're not actually using data.
As for tracking applications, you can use System Panel Pro of the market to monitor how much data applications are using.
I know I am not using data. The T-Mobile account page is pretty detailed and I am unable to do anything online when wifi is off. 3G has also been available for a while here as I know others that use it.
I will check out system panel.
Thanks.
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I do not have that option. Google Rep said it was only in froyo.
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It is indeed only on Froyo, however, Froyo is out now, so install it and you'll instantly benefit.
A few more things:
Were you receiving or sending MMS (picture/video messages) when the 3G icon popped up? This is normal and doesn't usually come out of your data balance.
If you'd like to be triple-sure you're not using data, go into the APN settings. Edit the APN name - e.g. change tmobile.com to nomobile.com. Now it *really* shouldn't be able to access data.
Smarphones would be well to do to have a Zonealarm/little snitch type app for this purpose.
Id imagine ad based apps wouldnt be too happy about it. At the least an app that reports IPs times , and IN/OUT info.
I never use SMS or mms and have not gotten any during this time.
My concern is not related to getting charges but with unwanted use of my phone or data. When the data connection auto enables it will go through my battery in a matter or hours and who knows what the phone may be doing.
I know I can turn this off and make sure data is not used - in fact I have already done this. However when smoke enters room you don't just put a towel under the door and forget about it. I want to find the source of this and stop it because the behavior is not normal.
I agree something like zone alarm would be good. You should be able prevent or track an app activities for situations like this. If I knew what was connecting to these IPs and enabling the data connection I could stop it and report the app or submit a bug request. Right now I am just all alone.
I did try system panel which seems like a nice app but it does not give me good information on network usage by app. OSMonitor is better at connection monitoring but doesn't list by app. Why has no one thought to monitor network threads by app?
Try alogcat maybe? Any time you notice the icon suddenly appearing, save a copy of the logcat and comb through it.
alogcat may work. Figured out OSMonitor had something similar and filtered by app.
Now I just gotta wait I guess. Still not enough info to relate to IP though.
You should know that the data connection setting isn't an enforcement for the entire phone. It only acts as a notice to applications on whether or not to use data in the background.
Developers are supposed to respect those settings, but they are not enforced.
There is a free program called Network Statistics which is no longer in the market. I will backup the apk for you and upload it so you can use it. It shows the amount of data used by each app.
I too had a data hungry app issue and this helped me solve it immediately.
I'm just at work ATM, so I'll do it this evening. (Almost midday now here in Australia )
Cheers,
Ross
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I am aware of this which is why I want to track this problem down.
@Ross
That sounds great. I appreciate the help. Not sure if tracking data usage is enough since I don't think the app is sending a lot of data. But I am willing to try anything.
I should be getting froyo soon so maybe that will help as well.
This is what I do when I want to ensure I don't use Data. Go I. To wireless connections. Mobile Networks, and then access points. Create a new one. I usually call it No Data. The for the apn, I just make something dumb, like no.data.com, and then save. After I'll select that as my apn.
The issue is not about the use of the data connection. I have done this and can guarantee the phone cannot use any cell data network. The problem is an app is trying to use it anyway even when it is disabled. Even if you ignore that as a concerning activity the constant 3G searching reduces the battery life to a mere hours.
I appreciate the help, but my issue is not with how to disable the data connection. Its about identifying malware on my device, and tracking an app calls to a specific IP.
Again,k 3g doesn't mean data. 3g is also used for voice.
If you only want to use "2g" switch your phone over to gsm only through 4636 or through the menu where it says "use 2g only".
You will never see the 3g icon again.
If you wan't to be 100% sure no app is calling an IP, then do a factory reset. Install apps one by one, monitor them through the various options given in this thread already.
You will not be able to prevent an application from "calling home" unless you modify the app itself. Apps use the data connection provided to them by the OS however they see fit.
Every app you install has a permissions prompt that will tell you it want's internet access.
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Again,k 3g doesn't mean data. 3g is also used for voice.
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The Android "3G", "H", "E" or "G" icon denotes data. It may also appear temporarily when making the connection necessary to transmit MMS. It does not appear when the phone is using voice over 3G without a data connection.
Actually, this may be a T-Mobile issue - they just enabled the ability to do "pay as you go" data on ALL plans without a data plan, so they may be the ones turning on the ability to do data. You'd still need to authorize it in your browser, and I think it costs about $1/1MB so it is totally not worth it.
May be worth looking into because it wouldn't surprise me if their new "service" is screwing things up.
I am aware of 3G voice but the 3G status icon is related to data flow. I have had the phone since launch and posted this because this behavior is not normal. Even Google was perplexed by what it is doing. And as I said it is not constrained by the 4636 settings.
And I disagree that an app can use the network connection as they see fit. Rights are given to perform its intended purpose; anything else is malicious.
Hi all, happy Friday! I searched for my paticular issue but couldn't find anything. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this issue or something similar. What happens is my revo isn't automatically reconnecting to wifi when i go out of range and then back in. I will notice it's using data (4G or 3G) and when i go to wifi settings the wifi network says disabled and i have to go to it and hit connect. What's more weird is it's doing this with the wifi at work but not at home. It's not an issue with the wifi at work though because other people here have androids, iphones and blackberrys and don't have the issue. The phone has done this since i got it. I've looked at the wifi sleep setting and made sure it is set to never to rule that out. I've done several powerdowns and battery pulls since i got it also. Anyhow just wondering if anyone has heard of this. Thank you and sorry for the length of my post.
That happens on my phone as well, but will reconnect to my home network after the screen is on for a few seconds
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I don't have that issue but I always turn my wifi off when I'm not using it. Better battery life plus no issues
Yeeup, I've had that exact issue on this phone from day 1. Some may not consider it a big deal, but it's actually one of my biggest pet peeves about the phone. I was hoping the V6 software update back in August would contain a fix for it, but I didn't notice a change.
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I don't have that issue but I always turn my wifi off when I'm not using it. Better battery life plus no issues
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While that's a valid workaround, and i'd love to do that, it's not an option for me. I have the lowest data plan you can have on a smartphone (2gb), so i have to be on wifi whenever it's available so as not to go over usage. What's odd though is the phone only seems to do this with the wireless at work. I even went somewhere this past weekend that i haven't been in a while and the phone remembered and connected right up to the wifi there. Other smartphones at work don't behave this way with the wireless at work though. I'll just have to live with it, i'm used to it now anyway. Just have to remember everytime or i'll be using up my precious data. I'm wondering if the update to gingerbread (if our revo ever get it) will do anything with this issue.
What type of security is implemented at your work? I know there is a very common problem with PEAP and MSCHAPV2 authentication and FROYO. I can connect, but as soon as I change to another antenna, I get disconnected. It is the only reason I know I want Gingerbread. It was supposed to be fixed in Gingerbread.
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What type of security is implemented at your work? I know there is a very common problem with PEAP and MSCHAPV2 authentication and FROYO. I can connect, but as soon as I change to another antenna, I get disconnected. It is the only reason I know I want Gingerbread. It was supposed to be fixed in Gingerbread.
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Good question gig, work has 2 networks. One uses PEAP and the other is for guest internet access, i have it on the guest. I gather from what you've said it wouldn't help any to try this issue on the main PEAP network.
I have an update on my issue. I was at lunch yesterday and trying to connect to the free wifi there and noticed that the wifi network at work that's been giving me problems was on the list of remembered networks twice! I have no clue how this happened (in troubleshooting i always hit forget). I didn't even know it was possible for any device to have duplicate entries of wifi networks. I deleted one of them and it seems to have worked (so far). Some other people replied saying they were having my issue too, so i wanted to update this thread in case it would fix their issue too.
Hey all, I had this problem on my EVO LTE but thought it was just because of the ROM I was running. Turns out, it is happening on the ONE as well. I change network mode to Automatic, allow roaming voice and data, and after a while, network drops back to LTE/CDMA and roaming gets unchecked. No action on my part, they just reset for some reason. WTF gives? Any way to fix this?
That's strange..I've been on automatic since day one and it's still on automatic
Not sure if sprint optimizer is on the one but that could be causing the issues.
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Not sure if sprint optimizer is on the one but that could be causing the issues.
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Don't think it's that.. had it turned off on the EVO LTE and cant find it on this phone. I can't be the only one having this problem... anyone who sees this, try turning on all roaming settings and setting network to automatic, then check if they are still there 1-2 days later. Mine have reset 3x since I've had this phone, with no warning.
My domestic and international data keeps turning off but I still get data. Sorta similar but not at all.
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It just happened yet again, and messed up my internet connection in the process. I CANNOT be the only person this is happening to. Please can anyone help me, shed some light on it, explain, fix it, anything. Huge pain to never know when it will reset back again.
On every reboot, my usb debugging turns off. :/
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