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Hi guys,
This thermal throttling is a problem especially when we play a game like Shadowgun deadzone or real racing 3. There is a mod to set a lower thermal throttling controll? For example to set up the limit temperature or the frequency?
P. S. I want this a locked bootloader.
You can flash a custom kernel and undervolt your CPU.
Other solutions:
- remove the protectioncase
-it's a xperia z -> water will help
-maybe a moded stock rom will help
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This is your second thread in the wrong section. This is the development section. Please post your requests in the Q&A section.
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I think that development section it's right because it is a request for the developers
fer2503 said:
Hi guys,
This thermal throttling is a problem especially when we play a game like Shadowgun deadzone or real racing 3. There is a mod to set a lower thermal throttling controll? For example to set up the limit temperature or the frequency?
P. S. I want this a locked bootloader.
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I would suggest the force GPU mod, because then some tasks that the CPU is doing can be offloaded to the GPU, should result in less heat.
danw_oz said:
I would suggest the force GPU mod, because then some tasks that the CPU is doing can be offloaded to the GPU, should result in less heat.
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But for me the thermal problem is when i play a game...so if i Force the gpu i lose performance in game. I want someone like doomlord kernel for locked bootloader...to disable or get up the temperature of thermal throttling
Any kernel mod cannot happen on a locked bootloader, unfortunately. You can't do anything apart from lower your cpu frequency. That said, @1.2 Ghz the four cores give plenty performance. So try that. However, you have certain issues with downclocking not sticking with all four cores. This can be fixed only with a custom kernel for which you need a custom kernel and thus an unlocked bootloader.
thermal throttling
Nowadays, which is the best kernel to avoid thermal throttle? im thinking in hard gaming. Where can i found the best settings?
mercurio2682 said:
Nowadays, which is the best kernel to avoid thermal throttle? im thinking in hard gaming. Where can i found the best settings?
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Any kernel that allows undervolting. Doomkernel, FXP, XzKernel, pretty much any custom kernel out there.
Best settings? That you have to try yourself. No two cpu are alike.
So the best way to avoid thermal throttling is undervolting? i thought must modify temperature limits in any way.
mercurio2682 said:
So the best way to avoid thermal throttling is undervolting? i thought must modify temperature limits in any way.
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You don't wanna risk melting your device for too much heat, right? (It really does melt. Back cover is glued to the main frame).
Heavy undervolting takes some good 10º~15º off of the chipset. Enough to avoid throttling.
Have you tried heavy games one or two hours without thermal throttling?
DrKrFfXx said:
You don't wanna risk melting your device for too much heat, right? (It really does melt. Back cover is glued to the main frame).
Heavy undervolting takes some good 10º~15º off of the chipset. Enough to avoid throttling.
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Hi, I've installed ElementalX on my One and it allows a maximum GPU clock speed of 450 MHz, but I read on the Internet that Adreno 320 GPUs can reach frequencies of 500 or even 600 MHz... there is a way to enable those frequencies? Maybe a tweak or another kernel?
The s4 clocks all the way up to 627mhz via custom kernel. So. It's possible
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osmosizzz said:
The s4 clocks all the way up to 627mhz via custom kernel. So. It's possible
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I know that's possible, but I want to know how, lol.
There's a reason it isn't enabled. Don't even attempt this unless you want to melt the insides of your phone at worst case, or even in best case suffer from extreme heat and reduced battery life.
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There's a reason it isn't enabled. Don't even attempt this unless you want to melt the insides of your phone at worst case, or even in best case suffer from extreme heat and reduced battery life.
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Man, heat isn't a problem for the One. HTC tests it at high temps. Mine for example is running at 2.16 GHz for a few months and I didn't have any problems at all... I reach high temps only when I play heavy games (max battery temp was 56.5 ℃)... The only important thing is that battery never reaches 60 ℃ which is the max safe temp for a Li-ion battery.
aliquo93 said:
Man, heat isn't a problem for the One. HTC test it at high temps. Mine for example is running at 2.16 GHz for a few months and I didn't have any problems at all... I reach high temps only when I play heavy games (max battery temp was 56.5 ℃)... The only important thing is that battery never reach 60 ℃ which is the max safe temp for a Li-ion battery.
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You have wrong information. Heat is a problem for all electronic devices. You will certainly shorten the life of the electronic components not only the battery if you keep them hot for extended periods. The reason the One has an aluminum case (besides aesthetics) is to help dissipate the heat from normal use and keep the device running for longer periods as well as extending the life of the battery.
Bumping up the max frequency doesn't mean the device is working at that frequency all the time. Specifically for a powerful device such as the One, it will only drain your battery faster.
Well I don't care of battery life... And the day I will notice problems I will go back to stock frequencies... So my question is: is there a way to OC the GPU to 500 or 600 MHz?
I will make a zip which does it okay? Do NOT complain when it blows up
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I will make a zip which does it okay? Do NOT complain when it blows up
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No, don't worry! Thank you! With your zip can I choose the frequency? I want to do some tests with 500 and 600 MHz
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Not necessarily. Faux oc'd the N4 GPU to 600mhz and no one made complaints due to the thermal throttle throttling the chip...QC and faux's implementations prevent excessive overheating.
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I've found the path /sys/class/kgsl/kgsl-3d0 wich contains the file max_gpuclk. If I change the value in that file my GPU gets overclocked?
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I've found the path /sys/class/kgsl/kgsl-3d0 wich the file max_gpuclk. If I change the value in that file my GPU gets overclocked?
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May I ask what's the point clocking so high? Do you feel any lag of some sort or your just looking to fry your phone up?
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May I ask what's the point clocking so high? Do you feel any lag of some sort or your just looking to fry your phone up?
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Just for do some tests... And phone will not fry... The N4 and S4 have been OC'd to 600 MHz witouth any problems!
EDIT: I've tried to change the file but it resets to kernel value (450 MHz)... so the only solution is waiting for Matt's zip...
P.S.: Matt, can you make 4 zips? One for 500 MHz, one for 550 MHz, one for 600 MHz and one for 620 MHz? Or can you let me choose one of those 4 frequencies directly from a single zip? Thanks in advance.
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Just for do some tests... And phone will not fry... The N4 and S4 have been OC'd to 600 MHz witouth any problems!
EDIT: I've tried to change the file but it resets to kernel value (450 MHz)... so the only solution is waiting for Matt's zip...
P.S.: Matt, can you make 4 zips? One for 500 MHz, one for 550 MHz, one for 600 MHz and one for 620 MHz? Or can you let me choose one of those 4 frequencies directly from a single zip? Thanks in advance.
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Every phone reacts differently to overclocking but you seem pretty sure anyways keep us posted..
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Matt can you also make a zip wich unlock a CPU frequency of 2.3 GHz? Now I'm on faux123 kernel and max frequency is 2106 MHz (on ElementalX was a bit higher, 2160 MHz)... So I want to try a CPU clock of 2.3 GHz and a GPU clock of 620 MHz... don't worry I keep temps monitored and I will downclock if phone gets unstable.
@shahkam: Sure, I'll keep you posted!
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It won't work with just a zip file, the GPU freq (like the CPU freq) is hardcoded in the kernel, if you want test an higher overclock you need to compile your own kernel... It won't work just by editing a file... Try by yourself modifying the value in the path you find LOL, and there is not only this path (/sys/devices/platform/kgsl-3d0.0/*** and a few others)...
The values you'll find in certain paths are just some values matching what was hardcoded in the kernel (for to do simple).
If it was too easy to just edit some files for overclock, why devs need to compile a kernel with overclock possibility???
If some GPU/CPU freq are not available in the kernel (by the kernel dev) you cannot set them without recompiling by yourself the kernel to add some extra GPU/CPU steps.
Plus the kernel devs here have tried GPU overclock above 450 Mhz and the result was worse performance, lag, etc... Something due to memory bandwitch or memory bottleneck... I don't remember exactly...
In fact the SIV can have higher GPU overclock with the same GPU as our but the "stuff" arround is not the same. Unless a dev find the solution.
But you'll never see GPU overclock in our One above 450 Mhz just by editing some files, trust me.
viking37 said:
Hi,
It won't work with just a zip file, the GPU freq (like the CPU freq) is hardcoded in the kernel, if you want test an higher overclock you need to compile your own kernel... It won't work just by editing a file... Try by yourself modifying the value in the path you find LOL, and there is not only this path (/sys/devices/platform/kgsl-3d0.0/*** and a few others)...
The values you'll find in certain paths are just some values matching what was hardcoded in the kernel (for to do simple).
If it was too easy to just edit some files for overclock, why devs need to compile a kernel with overclock possibility???
If some GPU/CPU freq are not available in the kernel (by the kernel dev) you cannot set them without recompiling by yourself the kernel to add some extra GPU/CPU steps.
Plus the kernel devs here have tried GPU overclock above 450 Mhz and the result was worse performance, lag, etc... Something due to memory bandwitch or... I don't remember exactly...
In fact the SIV can have higher GPU overclock with the same GPU as our but the "stuff" arround is not the same.
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I want to try myself, if it works bad I already said that I will set the stock frequencies back. Anyway I think that Matt is going to prepare a flashable zip wich goes to replace the kernel files.
aliquo93 said:
I want to try myself, if it works bad I already said that I will set the stock frequencies back. Anyway I think that Matt is going to prepare a flashable zip wich goes to replace the kernel files.
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LOL, good luck!
In the path you find, for max_gpuclk (and find all the others paths related to the GPU clock, good luck here too ) change the value by yourself with a file explorer like Root Explorer (edit the file) it will do nothing!!! Same thing for the other values!!!
I think you don't understand what I wrote or how all the kernel stuff works...
You need to compile your own kernel or recompile the kernel... and add the available GPU freq you want, but it's not too easy as just add a 600 Mhz step when you developed your kernel, what about voltage, memory allocated, other config files needs to be modified to match all your modifications, etc...???
It's infinite more complicated than you think...
viking37 said:
LOL, good luck!
In the path you find, for max_gpuclk (and find all the others paths related to the GPU clock, good luck here too ) change the value by yourself with a file explorer like Root Explorer (edit the file) it will do nothing!!! Same thing for the other values!!!
I think you don't understand what I wrote or how all the kernel stuff works...
You need to compile your own kernel or recompile the kernel... and add the available GPU freq you want, but it's not too easy as just add a 600 Mhz step when you developed your kernel, what about voltage, memory allocated, other config files needs to be modified to match all your modification, etc...???
It's infinite more complicated than you think...
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I know that the values cannot be changed by a file manager... but it was Matt who said that it's possible with the zip... If it isn't possible can you help me recompiling a kernel?
by flashable zip, I meant I was going to compile the kernel for you ^^ But yeah the S4 has DDR3 memory so that could be the 'bottleneck' mentioned. This would be a lot of effort for little result.
I'll put more in this request thread later but for now has anyone put any work into over clocking the GPU? Like through a custom kernel?
This isnt the correct thread, there its a Q & A section.
Sayin that, you think its necesary? The phone no have any lag or something like that, it doesnt need overclocking on my opinion!
Sorry will request it be moved but just for gaming and the tiny stutters. I'd like to smooth the experience fully. I'm developing a kernel that should do so but I'm a newb so I wanted to get any advice I could. Im currently throwing frandom and smartass into my kernel. Along with over clocking the GPU like people did for the nexus 4.
CurbThePain said:
Sorry will request it be moved but just for gaming and the tiny stutters. I'd like to smooth the experience fully. I'm developing a kernel that should do so but I'm a newb so I wanted to get any advice I could. Im currently throwing frandom and smartass into my kernel. Along with over clocking the GPU like people did for the nexus 4.
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I've fiddled with GPU overclocking, but it seems like Moto X can't handle even a slight 50 MHz GPU overclock. :/
I got GPU clock and voltage control to work, can be overclocked to 500mhz, anything more than 400mhz makes the UI stutter though. It can probably be fixed/tweaked easily, i won't put any effort on it because i don't use the phone as a gaming device. If you manage to fix the stuttering let me know.
https://github.com/gustavoss/kernel-msm/commit/1ab02a864136c317a423825bf7557129e445430c
https://github.com/gustavoss/kernel-msm/commit/b47accc58919021d8eeaa6bbfd7f6a038076ee7c
https://github.com/gustavoss/kernel-msm/commit/61649cd36f8e6079baeb31456bbdd884cfbe2533
https://github.com/gustavoss/kernel-msm/blob/stable/out/ramdisk/ramdisk/sbin/ext/post-init.sh#L9
http://i.imgur.com/z9c7sgo.png
Voltage control works perfectly, just be careful, anything less than -50mV will probably freeze the device.
I use synapse app by AndreiLux to control my custom kernel, my scripts to control the gpu can be found here:
https://github.com/gustavoss/kernel-msm/blob/stable/out/ramdisk/ramdisk/res/synapse/actions/gpufreq
https://github.com/gustavoss/kernel-msm/blob/stable/out/ramdisk/ramdisk/res/synapse/actions/gpuvolt
Gustavo_s said:
I got GPU clock and voltage control to work, can be overclocked to 500mhz, anything more than 400mhz makes the UI stutter though. It can probably be fixed/tweaked easily, i won't put any effort on it because i don't use the phone as a gaming device. If you manage to fix the stuttering let me know.
https://github.com/gustavoss/kernel-msm/commit/1ab02a864136c317a423825bf7557129e445430c
https://github.com/gustavoss/kernel-msm/commit/b47accc58919021d8eeaa6bbfd7f6a038076ee7c
https://github.com/gustavoss/kernel-msm/commit/61649cd36f8e6079baeb31456bbdd884cfbe2533
https://github.com/gustavoss/kernel-msm/blob/stable/out/ramdisk/ramdisk/sbin/ext/post-init.sh#L9
http://i.imgur.com/z9c7sgo.png
Voltage control works perfectly, just be careful, anything less than -50mV will probably freeze the device.
I use synapse app by AndreiLux to control my custom kernel, my scripts to control the gpu can be found here:
https://github.com/gustavoss/kernel-msm/blob/stable/out/ramdisk/ramdisk/res/synapse/actions/gpufreq
https://github.com/gustavoss/kernel-msm/blob/stable/out/ramdisk/ramdisk/res/synapse/actions/gpuvolt
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That's what I got to too. Kind of a waste of time in the end since the phone is kind of unusable in the end.
Hi xda, i own a z1 and its currently running kitkat rom build number 14.4.A.0.108, rooted and unlocked bootloader
What kernel can i install that supports underclock the cpu to 1,4 ghz, because i feel that at 2,3 ghz its just an overkill. And the device heats up a lot.
Also how can i disable the touchboost feature, the cpu was at 300 mhz during idle, but when i touch the screen its jumps up to maximum frequency, how can i disable this ?
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
If u just allow z1 run in 1.4ghz, i think u need buy another phone
lavenbut said:
If u just allow z1 run in 1.4ghz, i think u need buy another phone
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well the phone is given by someone to me, so no need to buy another phone, also i really liked the build quality
i am not heavy gamer or anything like that so i think 1,4 ghz will be more than enough
So here many custom ROM's
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-2/development/available-stock-custom-roms-mi-max-2-t3737523
Which of this the best for gaming? I don't care about my battery life or something else, only good optimization for games :laugh:
Also mb someone know how to tune Kernel Adiutor for gaming, is any guides or something else? i don't found any of this for Mi Max 2
It would be great, if u help
Without a custom Kernel, nothing much can be tuned in Kernel Adiutor to achieve higher performance in games. OC-ing the GPU and CPU would be probably the only solution to gain more FPS. All this ROMs are gonna perform similar with the same kernel.
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Without a custom Kernel
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where i can get custom kernel?
enkins said:
where i can get custom kernel?
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You can't because there is no custom kernel.
ekin_strops said:
You can't because there is no custom kernel.
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optimization for games in kernel adiutor is actually pretty straight forward. just choose performance governor for both cpu and gpu and lock both to the highest possible clocks (cpu minimum and maximum 2016 mhz, gpu min and max 650 mhz). that way they wont be downclocking to save power and ull have max performance always
furthermore, u could change IO scheduler to deadline for faster loading times and disable core control (as well as temperature and vdd control, depending on whether theyre active by default) in thermal tab. just keep an eye on device temperatures, cuz ull be basically removing throttling measures for hardware safety. although i doubt this should be a problem with an soc like SD625 in such a large device, but still...better be safe than sorry
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jbmc83 said:
optimization for games in kernel adiutor is actually pretty straight forward. just choose performance governor for both cpu and gpu and lock both to the highest possible clocks (cpu minimum and maximum 2016 mhz, gpu min and max 650 mhz). that way they wont be downclocking to save power and ull have max performance always
furthermore, u could change IO scheduler to deadline for faster loading times and disable core control (as well as temperature and vdd control, depending on whether theyre active by default) in thermal tab. just keep an eye on device temperatures, cuz ull be basically removing throttling measures for hardware safety. although i doubt this should be a problem with an soc like SD625 in such a large device, but still...better be safe than sorry
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great thanks to u for reply, i try this, hope it helps me
GPU settings not lock on 650 mhz, it's switch between 320 and 650, not 650 all time
enkins said:
GPU settings not lock on 650 mhz, it's switch between 320 and 650, not 650 all time
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did you change the gpu governor to performance?
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Hi, another way to unlock the cpu at its maximal frequence is to use the mod called " unlimited " in the playstore from the mi-globe rom (miui based)
here is the link : http://forum.mi-globe.com/general-development-f34/app-miui-unlimited-t691.html
You can activate it on the fly, very cool. I use this rom
Regards
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did you change the gpu governor to performance?
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ofc i did, but still not work
ed57 said:
Hi, another way to unlock the cpu at its maximal frequence is to use the mod called " unlimited " in the playstore from the mi-globe rom (miui based)
here is the link : http://forum.mi-globe.com/general-development-f34/app-miui-unlimited-t691.html
You can activate it on the fly, very cool. I use this rom
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it works only on miui rom, or it can works on custom roms?
enkins said:
ofc i did, but still not work
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ok i just checked on my phone with LOS 14.1 installed. when u set min and max gpu frequency to 650 mhz and set perfomance profile the gpu will only downclock to 320 mhz if there is no load put onto it. if there is ANY load whatsoever (in my case a simple continuous finger swipe over the display) the gpu clock sticks to 650 mhz and stays there.
so no worries, uve unlocked ur SoC performance completely and ull get the most out of it during gaming
edit: btw, dont let the poll results fool you. most people just go with LOS because thats what they are accustomed to the most and because its been out the longest for mi max 2 as far as custom roms are concerned. so more people voting there doesnt mean its actually faster than other roms (likely that most people havent tried ALL roms, especially for gaming-specific purposes )
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ok i just checked on my phone with LOS 14.1 installed. when u set min and max gpu frequency to 650 mhz and set perfomance profile the gpu will only downclock to 320 mhz is there is no load put onto it. if there is ANY load whatsoever (in my case a simple continuous finger swipe over the display) the gpu clock sticks to 650 mhz and stays there.
so no worries, uve unlocked ur SoC performance completely and ull get the most out of it during gaming
edit: btw, dont let the poll results fool you. most people just go with LOS because thats what they are accustomed to the most and because its been out the longest for mi max 2 as far as custom roms are concerned. so more people voting there doesnt mean its actually faster than other roms (likely that most people havent tried ALL roms, especially for gaming-specific purposes )
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ok thanks for that information, u help me so much, i''ll stay on DotOS 7.1.2 and test it for game perfomance, now results are fine, better then xiaomi.eu roms
Lineageos 14.1 is best
Best For Gaming
I believe that would be dot-os