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Hey all
I have been so frustrated with the camera on this phone as it takes barely passable photos in daylight but low light its almost impossible to take photos that are focusd and aren't full of noise. The HDR shot is quite good but nothing special.
Also the photos are a little zoomed in and squashed down if compared against objects you've take the pic of.
So i searched around and came across Lg camera in the market.
It has a free version which seems fully featured which bugs you for purchasing it every now and again. The aspect ratio of the pics is correct and tt takes excellent low light shots especially with flash on and has less noise and focuses perfectly.
Just thought I'd share it see what people thought.
Cheers.
Tried it. Didn't notice a difference. Tried camera zoom fx and all three took the same photo. The autofocus algorithms on this phone are horrible.
Kassassin said:
Tried it. Didn't notice a difference. Tried camera zoom fx and all three took the same photo. The autofocus algorithms on this phone are horrible.
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+1 on this, I kinda kiss the old camera app.
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Just tried it. The quality of the pictures doesn't even change.
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Sorry to say but its totally different pics on mine to stock camera. If you cant see the difference then maybe there's a fault on your phones because lg camera is perfect for me in low light and has no focusing issues at all even in a pitch black room with flash on.
You can also set infinity focus which eliminates all need to focus at all so for me lg camera fixes the problem
Also the aspect ratios in the photos on stock camera are totally different when compared to lg camera so maybe you need to compare the pictures side by side. Lg camera is true to the scene, Google camera squashes everything down. Also the Google camera is zoomed in further than lg camera.
My phone has no focusing issues with this app now.
Camera zoom fx isn't really a camera app more of a toy but anyway hope it helps someone as its sorted the camera form me and I'm very picky.
Ill update the thread with comparisons over the weekend to highlight the difference between the two cameras
check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 out
zephiK said:
check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 out
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That is for video...
There are many camera apps.I like camera zoom.. Works well..
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But I take it only the stock camera app supports photosphere?
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Ill update the thread with comparisons over the weekend to highlight the difference between the two cameras
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Please do!
I tried lgCamera as well as other camera apps and saw no significant difference.
There are several aspects to the bad pictures problem.
- One is the limitations of the camera module which no app can fix.
- Then there's camera calibration. The LG Optimus 4X HD has the same camera module
but produces photos with less noise. There's room for improvement here but it is most
likely going to happen with a firmware update.
- Proper metering and scene evaluation will no doubt increase the picture quality.
Manual control is one avenue to peruse this but I haven't come across and app that
gives exclusive control over ISO and shutter speed. Some apps let you select one and
then automatically adjust the other.
Check out Camera FV-5.
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If you cant see the difference then maybe there's a fault on your phones because lg camera is perfect for me
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this just made me lol
because you cant see anything that means your phone must be faulty!:laugh:
The camera app itself doesn't really matter.
All the actual focusing/picture taking/etc is done by the kernel module. There is a userspace driver which translate commands from the camera API (its just ends up being a string that defines parameters in plan text) and based off of that it tells the kernel module to make those changes/perform those actions. It even defines the jpg compression quality and whatnot, so there isnt much the actual app itself does.
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The camera app itself doesn't really matter.
All the actual focusing/picture taking/etc is done by the kernel module. There is a userspace driver which translate commands from the camera API (its just ends up being a string that defines parameters in plan text) and based off of that it tells the kernel module to make those changes/perform those actions. It even defines the jpg compression quality and whatnot, so there isnt much the actual app itself does.
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Level of compression certainly is set by the app. My FV-5 files are twice the size at the same resolution.
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jmudrick said:
Level of compression certainly is set by the app. My FV-5 files are twice the size at the same resolution.
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The camera app *suggests* the compression it would like, it doesn't do the compression itself. The userspace module instructs the camera kernel module to do the compression, and the build in DSP in the Qualcomm chip does the actual compression.
TeamAlpha said:
Check out Camera FV-5.
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this is a great app!!
but how to solve "widescreen viewfinder" no effect
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Check out Camera FV-5.
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But it wants too many permissions.
Howdy! I've got this phone for 3 days now. One of the main reasons to choose this one, is the camera. It should give stunning pictures, right? Wrong.
I can't for the love of me get even one good picture. Each and every one is either out of focus, distorted in some way, or it looks like there's not enough light (even when the picture is taken outside).
I started out with the automatic mode. What I dislike there, is that it never chooses the max. resolution. Manual mode, I can't get it to make good pictures either; though that might be because of lack of expertise.
Is my device broken? Am I doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.
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Howdy! I've got this phone for 3 days one. One of the main reasons to choose this one, is the camera. It should give stunning pictures, right? Wrong.
I can't for the love of me get even one good picture. Each and every one is either out of focus, distorted in some way, or it looks like there's not enough light (even when the picture is taken outside).
I started out with the automatic mode. What I dislike there, is that it never chooses the max. resolution. Manual mode, I can't get it to make good pictures either; though that might be because of lack of expertise.
Is my device broken? Am I doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.
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What is your firmware version? 354 i guess.
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What is your firmware version? 354 i guess.
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Thank you for your reply. I'm currently on the newest firmware. I'm running RomAur v3.2. I had the same problem on a different modified stock ROM of the latest firmware build.
I only know for good light condition, you set the ISO to as low as possible and 20mp manual and need a pair of steady hands. I still havent figure out low light condition, some ppl suggest twilight mode.
1. manual mode. the automode is bull****
2. fullsize. you can resize after the shooting^^
3. let the iso as low as possible. remember that the image becomes a little brighter than in the preview. use flash if its dark
i dont have any problems with the camera, even if taking pictures of moving obejcts in dark conditions. just stop shaking your hands and geht the iso lower^^
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1. manual mode. the automode is bull****
2. fullsize. you can resize after the shooting^^
3. let the iso as low as possible. remember that the image becomes a little brighter than in the preview. use flash if its dark
i dont have any problems with the camera, even if taking pictures of moving obejcts in dark conditions. just stop shaking your hands and geht the iso lower^^
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Yea iso to a lower value
Here is a picture with iso over 100
And one at 50 (if picture can't be attached then I'll post it next - having issue with xda app)
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Meh I'm not happy with xda app
Here is pic with 100 iso
U may need to adjust ev accordingly
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Colorful !
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This is with bad lighting (Sun was shining at the cam), a view from my window. Is this the quality I should expect from this phonecam?
Inside, it's never sharp. There simply seems to be too little light to make sharp pictures. The flash does nearly nothing. The low ISO setting makes it lag very much as well, reducing the screen fps to 3 or something like that. I guess it's difficult for the device to keep up.
http://aciai.me/i/uk0v.jpg
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Those do look better. Do I understand correctly that I should take a course in photography and buy a an app to get decent pictures out of this thing? I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
im not satisfied at all with z1 camera , am i missing something ??
Angelusz said:
I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
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there are two apps much better than FV-5
1) Pro Capture: More details. Sharper pictures. aiding grid to get great shots. (but you can't manage ISO level and the max resolution is 8MPX)
2) Camera Zoom FX: Faster focus. More MPX option (18MPX resolution is available)
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Those do look better. Do I understand correctly that I should take a course in photography and buy a an app to get decent pictures out of this thing? I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
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I've not done photography either mate and the pictures were taken with stock camera application, except the picture of my can
wezzel98765 said:
I've not done photography either mate and the pictures were taken with stock camera application, except the picture of my can
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Then my device is broken. I tested a few shots next to a Galaxy Note 3, and it made much (MUCH) better pictures than my Z1. Tried all kinds of settings, no way to make it right. So mine must be ****. I'm getting it exchanged because of a lazy pixel anyway, but I'm really disappointed in Sony here. I thought they made quality products. :x
guybrush2099 said:
there are two apps much better than FV-5
1) Pro Capture: More details. Sharper pictures. aiding grid to get great shots. (but you can't manage ISO level and the max resolution is 8MPX)
2) Camera Zoom FX: Faster focus. More MPX option (18MPX resolution is available)
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Okay, thanks for the tips.
wezzel98765 said:
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Mmm, can you explain me better auto mode? Do you selected a scene? Do you select single focus point or multi point?
Metering? (Can you explain this)
HDR or image stabilizer?
Do you use the hardware button to take pictures or the software one? I noticed that using the hw one after you press focus and then more to shoot produce a little movement that can make your photo bad. Am I the only one that find the camera button too hard?
Thanks a lot!!!!
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Then my device is broken. I tested a few shots next to a Galaxy Note 3, and it made much (MUCH) better pictures than my Z1. Tried all kinds of settings, no way to make it right. So mine must be ****. I'm getting it exchanged because of a lazy pixel anyway, but I'm really disappointed in Sony here. I thought they made quality products. :x
Okay, thanks for the tips.
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Got my Z1 today.
I have exactly the same problems as you have. Even my Galaxy Nexus with 5mp does better photos :crying:
Also tried some different camera settings without any success.
Don't know what to do now...
ganex said:
Got my Z1 today.
I have exactly the same problems as you have. Even my Galaxy Nexus with 5mp does better photos :crying:
Also tried some different camera settings without any success.
Don't know what to do now...
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My advice: Contact the seller and have it exchanged. I think it's a hardware problem.
yes..nexus can't take better pictures than xz1..there's a problem
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what do you think?
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-21310660/DSC_0030.jpg.html
(sorry for the wrong rotation)
settings: manual, iso 200, light +0,7, 5284x3963.
what is wrong? what focus do you use?
I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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I have tried all (decent) camera apps out there, camera fx, camera pro, fv5, motorola camera, kitkat camera and so on... all of them are worse than stock, I mean you can tweak some settings exposure stuff like that (on some of them) but the stock camera in high lights captures the best shots of all camera apps (and 95% better than manual too), when it's cloudy or lights aren't high switch to manual, no setting, no scene, no hdr, no steady shot, nothing. If the picture is too exposed I suggest to use the native resolution 20mp 4:3 which result in a bit darker photo. In low lights, or night ... ATM forget about that I'm unable (unless maybe you have patience and a tripod) to capture nice shots.
When you use the stock camera in auto please keep an eye on bottom right and before each shot check if it detects the correct scene, if not change angle if you don't want then switch to manual (with settings said before). Remember that we don't have OIS (optical image stabilizer) but a software one, which IMHO currently is a lie, so keep your hands steady as a brick.
Probably wait and see what the 4.3 update will bring to the camera before even spending money on buying anything.
gumbsy1 said:
I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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I found the LG camera app to be excellent. It's taking some great shots on my Z1. Mind you, I'm no photo expert so I could be wrong but I just did a compare with some 20mp shots on the manual mode with stock cam and the 20mp shots with the LG app. Found the LG app much better as I can't be bothered with tweaking settings. Most shots I take need to be completed within 2-3 secs. I also tried FXcameraZoom and wasn't too happy with it.
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I have tried all (decent) camera apps out there, camera fx, camera pro, fv5, motorola camera, kitkat camera and so on... all of them are worse than stock, I mean you can tweak some settings exposure stuff like that (on some of them) but the stock camera in high lights captures the best shots of all camera apps (and 95% better than manual too), when it's cloudy or lights aren't high switch to manual, no setting, no scene, no hdr, no steady shot, nothing. If the picture is too exposed I suggest to use the native resolution 20mp 4:3 which result in a bit darker photo. In low lights, or night ... ATM forget about that I'm unable (unless maybe you have patience and a tripod) to capture nice shots.
When you use the stock camera in auto please keep an eye on bottom right and before each shot check if it detects the correct scene, if not change angle if you don't want then switch to manual (with settings said before). Remember that we don't have OIS (optical image stabilizer) but a software one, which IMHO currently is a lie, so keep your hands steady as a brick.
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So more often than not you just use superier auto unless it's dark then you go for manual?
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gumbsy1 said:
So more often than not you just use superier auto unless it's dark then you go for manual?
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Exactly
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Exactly
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a good camere is: Camera awesome.
Now i have ihacher 1.1 and superior is set to 20 mp ... very good
gioiellino said:
a good camere is: Camera awesome.
Now i have ihacher 1.1 and superior is set to 20 mp ... very good
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Tried that one too, I didn't see any substantial difference
after several tests Pro Capture is my favourite camera app
faster, more precise and better focus than stock
special support for Xperia Z1 (optimized algorithm and 16/9 wide 20MPX)
better auto mode performance than stock superior auto
macro have more sharp details
sometimes I use stock camera because it can handle ISO level and if I have a lot of light I can set ISO 50 and reduce the exposure to obtein perfect panorama images
I'm very disappointed with the resolution of the default camera. The images are not sharp, and absolutely terrible in low light. I'm surprised Samsung is getting away with this.
Is the camera software on KitKat better, and could someone post it's apk? Thanks.
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incisivekeith said:
I'm very disappointed with the resolution of the default camera. The images are not sharp, and absolutely terrible in low light. I'm surprised Samsung is getting away with this.
Is the camera software on KitKat better, and could someone post it's apk? Thanks.
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Really? This is one of the best cameras out there. You're not gonna get much better unless you get a GS4 Zoom or a Nokia Lumina (the one with a 41 mp camera). You gotta learn how to play with the settings on the app
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Really? This is one of the best cameras out there. You're not gonna get much better unless you get a GS4 Zoom or a Nokia Lumina (the one with a 41 mp camera). You gotta learn how to play with the settings on the app
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The OG Note has a much better camera with default settings, in my opinion. What main settings get you good pics on the Note 3?
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Highest quality, image stabilization on, auto mode. Just play with it, it has iso and exposure settings too. I have taken some really sweet long exposure shots with it propped up on a rock that look like they've been taken with slow exposure film.
Ever tried Camera Zoom FX?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
I'm REALLY fond of it. For me I had a lot of issues with the default Note 3 camera app. Forcecloses, videos that randomly kept the torch on until I rebooted... Camera Zoom FX makes it a lot easier to make great use of the Note 3 camera hardware.
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Ever tried Camera Zoom FX?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
I'm REALLY fond of it. For me I had a lot of issues with the default Note 3 camera app. Forcecloses, videos that randomly kept the torch on until I rebooted... Camera Zoom FX makes it a lot easier to make great use of the Note 3 camera hardware.
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Yeah, but that is only good for up to 8MP processing. I'd rather have the full resolution of what's built in.
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Yeah, but that is only good for up to 8MP processing. I'd rather have the full resolution of what's built in.
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Mine goes to 12.8MP (4128x3096). I did notice it didn't do 4k video recording, but I can't find any third-party apps that do that. Does it maybe vary device to device? Might be worth trying out... I know the max MP stated for the Note 3 is 13 but for all I know that's an averages thing. I don't mind losing 0.2MP, since for all I know the full 13 is like I said just raising up.
What do you think is the beat camera app for the nexus 6??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2917061
What's your favorite Camera App(s)?
how many times has this question been asked? and how many threads on this are there? did you bother to search?
snap camera seems the fastest... not sure on the quality of the HDR
#notaphotoexpert
Geko-x said:
What do you think is the beat camera app for the nexus 6??
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For the N6? Manual Camera! Lovin this app! It's still a work in progress, but it is a very cool app.
Manual Camera
Other articles on the app:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/01/1...ext-purchase-if-you-own-a-nexus-5-or-nexus-6/
http://androidcommunity.com/manual-camera-brings-dslr-experience-to-your-android-phone-20150116/
http://www.androidauthority.com/manual-camera-control-picture-580907/
I switched from Manual camera to Camera FV-5, which also uses the new APIs (so it can output DNG). It is a lot more polished and stable than Manual Camera.
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For the N6? Manual Camera! Lovin this app! It's still a work in progress, but it is a very cool app.
Manual Camera
Other articles on the app:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/01/1...ext-purchase-if-you-own-a-nexus-5-or-nexus-6/
http://androidcommunity.com/manual-camera-brings-dslr-experience-to-your-android-phone-20150116/
http://www.androidauthority.com/manual-camera-control-picture-580907/
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Manual camera capture in 4:3 and you cant change quality and HDR seems very broken or non functional.
Very slow shutter rate, aosp and google camera is so much faster, Manual Camara not worth it at all.
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Manual camera capture in 4:3 and you cant change quality and HDR seems very broken or non functional.
Very slow shutter rate, aosp and google camera is so much faster, Manual Camara not worth it at all.
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It seems you have missed the idea of the app. It's called MANUAL CAMERA!
You don't change "quality" settings. You don't have HDR mode. Those are AUTOMATIC modes. This is a MANUAL application that allows you to adjust MANUAL settings like ISO, Shutter Speed, Over/Under exposure, white balance, etc. If you want all the "programmed" or "automatic" settings that come in the camera app, then use the camera app!
And if your shutter rate is slow, it's because you have a SLOW SHUTTER SPEED selected!!!!
Complaining about an app that is doing what it's supposed to do, is epitome if stupidity!
ARGH!!!!!!!
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The app works perfectly fine on my Nexus 6 and I really like the manual options. Too bad it's not possible to edit the raw images on the phone yet.
And the low fps isn't a problem on a phone for me because the auto focus isn't that fast anyway.
A timer for timelapse photos could be a nice feature.
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Edit RAW with Photo Mate R2 in PlayStore.
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Manual Camera was updated to v2.1 today, and it is now showing as incompatible on the N6. Anyone else seeing this?
seem problem incompatible N6
Edit : the fix should be available for download in an hour or two in play store
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i have a noob Q, why is it until now there is no app for Android for slo-mo? or like funny faces camera with voice changer like in the iOS, is it from android itself or the hardware or the developers ?
because i see the apps for iOS and i just wonder just WHY !
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i have a noob Q, why is it until now there is no app for Android for slo-mo? or like funny faces camera with voice changer like in the iOS, is it from android itself or the hardware or the developers ?
because i see the apps for iOS and i just wonder just WHY !
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Google kinda dropped the ball on it. Hopefully it will be functionality added in at some point.
core issues with N6 video before slo-mo can happen
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i have a noob Q, why is it until now there is no app for Android for slo-mo? or like funny faces camera with voice changer like in the iOS, is it from android itself or the hardware or the developers ?
because i see the apps for iOS and i just wonder just WHY !
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My sense is there are some very serious issue preventing slo-mo. That is, slo-mo you want to share because it would be close to garbage as it stands.
I shoot video frequently and was very unhappy when I got my N6.
- signal to noise (S/N) is not good on this device at this stage of the game. It simply is noisy, and it is correctable in software. Until then, slo-mo will be very nasty if anyone is brave enough to try to encode it.
- exposure compensation in video mode is poor - if you shoot a video of a person sitting in front of a blank wall (or a sky) and slowly pan up and down - you can see the exposure compensation "clicking" in stairstep manner as the device adjusts to brightness changes. It needs to be silky smooth or video looks like crap. It can be corrected in software.
- you can workaround the exposure issue by using a third party app which locks exposure compensation - but shooting video with locked exposure compensation is not a good solution.
my opinions.
@warriorpluto I couldn't agree more...I was hoping that there be at least a working port of maybe lenovo, sense 6 camera,z2 or z3 camera...maybe when more devices get lollipop well be able to enjoy the nexus camera...but I suppose for now the google camera shall do for now lol smh
Z camera is good enough. The only one u can take picture wit no lag. But no HDR .
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Manual Camera
Geko-x said:
What do you think is the beat camera app for the nexus 6??
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Manual Camera just came out a few weeks ago, but it's by far been the best for me (a camera junkie).
It's best used if you're used to the settings on a DSLR, but has an awesome auto setting and the fastest auto-focus i've seen yet on the N6.
So is the best camera app "Camera FV-5" with Cinema FV-5?
Just cleaned up in here. You guys can take the political debate to a different forum, please. I have absolutely no idea why this subject got brought up in camera thread (actually I do, but I'll deal with the certain member(s))......on a development site.
No need to discuss what I just cleaned in here. Please keep it on topic.
jlehenbauer said:
Manual Camera just came out a few weeks ago, but it's by far been the best for me (a camera junkie).
It's best used if you're used to the settings on a DSLR, but has an awesome auto setting and the fastest auto-focus i've seen yet on the N6.
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I liked the Manual Camera, but there is no option for video mode and front camera mode..