[Q] Stock vs CM Performance - Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys I have several questions today and hope that I can get them answered.
Are pre certified HD+ used tablets or do barnes and nobles actually open new and put them as pre owned?
Serious question: Comparing Stock UI vs CM emmu, which is faster and less laggy? and I think CM includes root after it is installed right? does it also include unknown apk sources? If I install a launcher like Nova, does stock launcher still run in the background? would it matter? because I am deciding whether to convert to CM or not and if I did, I would go with emmu. Most importantly, I have a 2GB MicroSd, would that be enough for CM? if not would it be enough just to root my tablet and install unknown apk zip? Is CM 10.2 stable now or do I have to use CM 10.1 RC? Thank you guys:good:

Some thoughts
A couple of thoughts. You'll want at least a 4G card to do the CM install (the boot image is 4G). If you want to do a backup of your stock install (recommended), you'll want a larger card or a second one to grab the backup (my initial backup was 1.34G).
On stock vs CM, I chose CM installed internally because (a) I didn't really care about stock, (b) at the time, CM appeared to be a more stable solution overall than rooted stock + an alternate launcher + the ability to install from unknown sources (the stock OS would reset if an app modified /system). FWIW, that problem now appears to be solved (see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613). While I haven't compared stock vs CM10.1 side by side on the HD+, I've been running rooted stock with an alternate launcher on my Nook Tablet for over a year and that has been a very good experience. But CM 10.1 on the HD+ is quite stable and smooth, and I haven't seen any real issues with lag.
So to a certain extent, it is a matter of choice. Rooted stock will keep you better connected to the Nook world (e.g., you can download and install the free Friday app each week, if you'd like to), while CM will give you more of a full Android tablet experience.

Actually, the 4GB boot image is old. I think it is leapinlar that posted a way to just stick the files on the sdcard at just a few MB literally. Its entirely possible to backup stock to a 2GB. Running cm on it though, well I don't remember. You'll have to search for it though as its not as straightforward as it sounds.

sandsofmyst said:
Actually, the 4GB boot image is old. I think it is leapinlar that posted a way to just stick the files on the sdcard at just a few MB literally. Its entirely possible to backup stock to a 2GB. Running cm on it though, well I don't remember. You'll have to search for it though as its not as straightforward as it sounds.
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Thank you guys so much for your responses, they are really helpful for deciding which rom to use. The problem is I only have a 2gb micro in my phone now and I was think about backing up Stock(around 1.5 gb ish) i think? Then dump it and do an internal install into the HD+. I don't know if that is possible and if so can I have the link to img/tutorial? SInce I want the most stable and safest experience possible should I stick with CM 10.1 RC or are the 10.2 nightlies REALLY stable now? Does flashing to CM automatically include root and enable Unknown apk from setting menu or do I have to use leapinlar's zip again?

inspireyue said:
I was think about backing up Stock(around 1.5 gb ish) i think? Then dump it and do an internal install into the HD+. I don't know if that is possible and if so can I have the link to img/tutorial? SInce I want the most stable and safest experience possible should I stick with CM 10.1 RC or are the 10.2 nightlies REALLY stable now? Does flashing to CM automatically include root and enable Unknown apk from setting menu or do I have to use leapinlar's zip again?
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1) Yes, the initial backup shouldn't be more than 1.5G.
2) CM 10.1 RC2 is probably going to be more stable than the nightlies for 10.2 (but I'm still running 10.1, so I can't really comment on 10.2)
3) The files that you need for an internal install of CM are linked from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263553
The thread also includes basic directions. And, yes, it seems that the latest boot image requires only a 1G card, so you'll be fine with your 2G. Sorry for passing on out-of-date information.
4) If you need directions that are more step-by-step, look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
The second post in that thread also includes some useful FAQs
5) After you install CM, you won't need any additional zips to give you root access or to allow side loading. To enable unknown sources in CM, open settings, go to the security tab, and you'll see "Unknown Sources". Tap to check the box and you'll be able to side load. Similarly, if you go to the tab "About Tablet", click on the version number 6-7 times, this will enable "Developer Options". Go to that tab, and you'll see an item for "Root Access". You can verify (and set) the type of root access you want.

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1) Yes, the initial backup shouldn't be more than 1.5G.
2) CM 10.1 RC2 is probably going to be more stable than the nightlies for 10.2 (but I'm still running 10.1, so I can't really comment on 10.2)
3) The files that you need for an internal install of CM are linked from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263553
The thread also includes basic directions. And, yes, it seems that the latest boot image requires only a 1G card, so you'll be fine with your 2G. Sorry for passing on out-of-date information.
4) If you need directions that are more step-by-step, look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
The second post in that thread also includes some useful FAQs
5) After you install CM, you won't need any additional zips to give you root access or to allow side loading. To enable unknown sources in CM, open settings, go to the security tab, and you'll see "Unknown Sources". Tap to check the box and you'll be able to side load. Similarly, if you go to the tab "About Tablet", click on the version number 6-7 times, this will enable "Developer Options". Go to that tab, and you'll see an item for "Root Access". You can verify (and set) the type of root access you want.
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ok i will try flashing that, Do i have to flash the kernel from verygreen or is the kernel already flashed when i install CM 10.1RC2? and does the high screen resolution stay the same after I flashed to CM compared to stock? Is stock launcher on CM faster than nova launcher?

If you install CM 10.1 RC2, you will be all set . . . nothing else needed. Resolution remains the same. Launcher is Trebuchet, but I've never used Nova, so can't offer a comparison

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Rooted Nook Color with CM7 and here is my short review - GREAT! :)

I hope mods will find this thread informative and not remove it as I think I have few things to share that people can really use and be aware of when getting their Nook Color rooted and stup with CM7 ROMs.
Reason I am writing my experience is that I feel there was some info that could have been more informative and straight forward (other than confusing minor parts that wasted some of my time )...
I started without much of the knowledge about how to root Nook, etc and read several stickies on "how to" stuff... After all I managed to get following flashed onto my nook color:
CM7 (7.0.2 stable ROM version)
Gapps
Dalingrin's OC kernel (4/24/11)
Clockworkmod (updated it through the ROM Manager at the later time).
Here is several advices I think you should know about;
1. Do go and check "How to videos" on Youtube in regards to installing CM7 on your Nook Color!
2. If you are going for CM7 ROM, there is no need to root your Nook with "manual nooter" ... you can use MN only if you want to keep all options but gain Market app and other apps as well... I recommend going CM7 since it is rooted already and everything gets taken care of in three simple steps:
a) Burn bootable SD Card with Win32DiskImager and use 1GB Clockworkmod Image you can find here at xda forums.
b) Once done, copy ROM and Gapps and Kernel .zip archives onto the root of yor SD Card (do not rename any files at any time)
c) Insert SD Card into Nook and boot it, it will go into Clockwork mode and do the following:
***FIRST go to "Mount/Storage" and format SYSTEM, then format DATA and then format CACHE
***Select Install from SD Card and then install files in this order:
-1- CM7 ROM
-2- Gapps pack
-3- OC Kernel
3. Once done with everything shut down Nook, take out SD Card and place it back into SD Card reader (do not use any phones to do this - SD Card readers are preferable... if you ask me, yes I did use my phone and it worked just fine).
4. Find Panasonic SD Formatter v2 (or v3) online, install it and then format the SD Card to wipe all of the stuff on it... I formatted the old fashioned way and it worked just fine... either or you go for it's up to you.
5. Place back formatted SD Card into the Nook and boot it.
Note: CM7 uses SD Card for a storage and that's why format was necessary
IMPORTANT 1: CM7 comes pre-loaded with ADWLauncher (regular non-EX version) and I have to say it was bit choppy (even with OCing CPU to 1.2GHz)... I went and installed LauncherPro to test it and have to say MUCH SMOOTHER... yes, iPad smooth if you are asking me when it comes to sliding home screens (video is pending update, you will see it for yourself).
IMPORTANT 2: Lots of people is talking about battery life, renaming Phone apk and Telephony service apk ... IT IS SIMPE: when you are using WiFi have Airplane mode OFF; when you are done with WiFi, simply turn Airplane Mode ON and that will (as made to do) disable phone services. Just one button more to press BUT it saves you whole lots of battery. I charged it about 2hrs ago and since then used tablet for about 10 minutes on Wifi and that was it. Phone idle is 5%!!! until I figured to try with airplane mode... and it works...
UPDATE - Important Note: I forgot to mention that kernel does allow OCing but currently I am testing it under regular clock (800MHz and 300MHz) - launcher scroll home screens works just as smooth and I turned off fade-in/out when clicking on App Drawer just because I am not big on eye-candy.
Try it for yourself and report back - I would be glad to hear this worked for others and not only me
Great post. I personally found Zeam Launcher to be the snappiest luancher for my device but YMMV. To add to the original post I made a thread concerning the volume settings for the Nook that can be found HERE. I have mine overclocked to 1.3Ghz and I can get a full day of heavy use out of it as long as I turn off WIFI when it is not needed. Just add a shortcut to your notification bar under the Cyanogen Tablet Settings option. Also add a brightness shortcut to it and keep it as low as possible. Make sure to turn off auto-brightness in the display menu that's found under Settings.
If you posted this a few months back, it would be great.
Now, it's a bit outdated.
Thanks for the effort.
There's really no reason to be using 7.0.3, much less 7.0.2. Grab a recent nightly (I can vouch for 176, but have seen some trouble reports on 177, haven't looked into the just released 197) and up-to-date gapps (bottom of this page). Dal's overclock kernel is built-in, along with other features designed to work with the Nook Tweaks app.
The problem with battery life in older versions of CM7 is that the device will not deep sleep. That was solved with the move to 7.1.
Taosaur said:
There's really no reason to be using 7.0.3, much less 7.0.2. Grab a recent nightly (I can vouch for 176, but have seen some trouble reports on 177, haven't looked into the just released 197) and up-to-date gapps (bottom of this page). Dal's overclock kernel is built-in, along with other features designed to work with the Nook Tweaks app.
The problem with battery life in older versions of CM7 is that the device will not deep sleep. That was solved with the move to 7.1.
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This.
Stables are so far behind its not even funny.
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk
votinh said:
If you posted this a few months back, it would be great.
Now, it's a bit outdated.
Thanks for the effort.
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Did you REALLY have to post that? Outdated for who? You? Maybe a few months ago this would have been outdated for me but its helpful and useful.
Congrats Mo on 602!
chefdave12118 said:
Did you REALLY have to post that? Outdated for who? You? Maybe a few months ago this would have been outdated for me but its helpful and useful.
Congrats Mo on 602!
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Why did you jump on too hard?
Did you see I posted "thanks for the effort"?
You don't see it's outdated?
Have you seen any threads asking why format /data yielded problem?
If you install lately nightly build, would you recommend others to install OC kernels version 04/21/2011?
I just pointed out for new comers that if they have their NC, mostly likely version 1.2, this instructions are outdated and they should NOT go out and hunting for old stuff. That's all.

How I rooted B&N 1.4.1 on my NOOKcolor and got the Android Market to work

A few folks have asked for a step-by-step, so I thought it might be helpful to have a copy here on XDA. GMPOWER has recently created a thread on his ManualNooter for NC 1.4.1 which should be considered the authoritative source on the basic rooting process. I'm going to leave this post here to collect other tips & tricks that can be done post-root.
I want to emphasize that I did none of the original work required for this effort to succeed. I only seem to follow instructions carefully, and know just enough to figure out what instructions to ignore. I'm posting this here because I'm hoping other will benefit from skipping a few of the painful steps I went through to get this working. All credit goes to GMPOWER, Dalingrin, Roustabout and the wonderful crew at XDA that create these tools to let us get more out of our devices!
TARGET AUDIENCE
This guide is for anybody wanting to root the stock Barnes and Noble 1.4.1 firmware. Is it worth it? Probably not. With all the options available today, reverting to B&N makes sense if, and only if, if you want to use any of the following B&N capabilities:
Read to me (mostly children's book)
Enhanced content (e.g. Conde Nast magazines such as Wired, New Yorker, though some of these are becoming available via 3rd party sources.)
Newpaper or magazine subscriptions (auto-update)
B&N Free in-store reading
Support from friends with stock Nooks or B&N (conditional upon being rooted)
The B&N reader experience and shell. The B&N Android Nook app is not the same thing as their firmware experience, at least not yet. Someday, they may update the B&N Nook Android app, but it is pretty poor right now. If you want to read B&N stuff, then 1.4.1 is a big deal.
If these apply, consider keeping your NC at B&N 1.4.1. If you want 3rd party content (e.g. Kindle), then root it, but make sure you've got it configured NOT to auto-update, since B&N has killed sideloading with OTA updates.
If you will not be using B&N content, then go with Cyanogenmod or similar. The B&N firmware suffers a lot of shortcomings compared to the "full tablet" experience:
Lots of settings are missing.
Getting a 3rd party keyboard to work is possible, but very kludgy at present. I had luck with SwiftKey by copying the apk from /data/app to /system/app as directed in NookColor Tools.
If you're looking to install CyanogenMod or other firmware, check out Koopakid08's A Noobs Guide to Getting Started with a Custom Rom on the Nook Color.
BACKGROUND
I started out reading and trying the procedure described the XDA thread on rooting 1.2 and 1.3:
[NC][1.2][1.3] ManualNooter 4.6.16 - xda-developers
However, it is critical to realize that the directions early on in that thread do not work for 1.4.1. The magic starts at about page 160. Below is my distillation of this information in easy-to-digest form (hopefully).
PROCESS
You need to create a ClockworkMod (CWM) bootable SD card to reset your device back to standard B&N firmware, and to install the "manualnooter" root kit. Colchiro has posted a nice summary over at Androidforums. His guide includes the latest (3.2.0.1) CWM versions.
Restore to stock B&N ROM. I'd been running CM7.1 on emmc, so had to go through the process of restoring to a stock B&N 1.3 ROM. Depending on the age of the article you read on how to do this, you may have problems either formatting /data or get into a boot loop at the 'n' logo. You need a current CWM to be able to successfully format /data. If /data is not properly formatted, you will get a bootloop at the B&N splash screen when you restart. Not a big deal to fix, but you can waste a lot of time on this. As of this writing, CWM 3.2.0.1 is the latest, and should allow you to format partitions without problems.
After restoring to B&N 1.3, I re-registered my device to make sure B&N functionality would work. After all, the only reason to bother with 1.4.1 is if you intend to use B&N content. Otherwise, save yourself the trouble. NOTE: We are not root yet.
Update to 1.4.1. I got my copy of 1.4.1 directly from B&N [EDIT 01162012: I have verified that the latest as of this date still works as described here.] Your Nook Color will also update to the latest if you just let 1.3 unrooted go to sleep if you don't have ClockWorkMod installed to eMMC. I have confirmed that this procedure works with the following nookcolor_1_4_1_update.zip md5sum: 2a27f54b65431a096af4f07967bcd6b5 (post-Christmas 2011)
Once 1.4.1 was running unrooted, I then followed GMPOWER's efforts over at XDA. The key is to run an updated version of manualnooter that does not make the database updates. As of this writing, his latest 5.01.24 can be found in post 1745. So far as I know, the official manualnooter repositories have not been updated.
Copy manualnooter-5.01.24.zip (or whatever the latest is) to your bootable SD recovery card.
Boot the recovery SD card.
Install manualnooter-5.01.21.zip.
Remove the recovery SD card and reboot your NC. It boots any card present, so this is kinda important. Behold the pretty startup screens. You should have root at this point.
Be sure to select Zeam as your initial launcher. Note that if you press the 'n' key at this point, you'll be taken back to the B&N interface, and not have ready access to anything non-standard. This is not a big deal. Simply press 'n'->Search and enter zeam in the search box. It should locate zeam. Select it to launch.
To enable 3rd party apps to load, you must open the NookColor Tools program. There's a magic check box that enables 3rd party apps at the top. By default, the text is white on white, so impossible to see. Select that box twice - to uncheck then recheck (toggle) it. When you are done, it should be checked.
To get 3rd party apps to show up in the Nook interface, download Nook Color App Manager from the Market. HINT: Don't go overboard and select everything. Select only those things you really want to see in the B&N Walled Garden. You might also want to select the HomeCatcher app (included in ManualNooter) to allow using the 'n' button to go to your launcher of choice, but I do not. My philosophy is to keep the B&N interface as much as possible, or I wouldn't have gone to all this effort. When I need "power user" functions, I just launch zeam using the search procedure listed above.
Disable OTA updates. B&N auto over-the-air (OTA) updates apparently break root, and lately, sideloading. There seems to be some debate about what works best for this, but I've gone for modifying the devicemanager.db using SQLite Editor to open devicemanager.db and change registry->com.bn.device.fota.mode from "auto" to "manual". You can use an alternate method with a free sqlite3 binary from the command line. So far, no nasty OTA surprises.
COMMON PROBLEMS
Here are some common problems and what to do about them:
Can't overclock. GMPOWER has indicated that an overclocked kernel is not provided as of manualnooter-5.1.24. You need to install Dalingrin's overclocked kernel for B&N 1.3 (NOTE: Dalingrin's hosting site for these files seems to be offline. Doncarauana has posted a set of temporary links to the kernel files you can try. You will also need a copy of Dalingrin's Nook Color Tweaks installed.
Can't format /data when restoring to stock firmware. You probably followed an old guide on how to do this. Depending on the age of your NC, the version of CWM you're using may not handle partition changes. You need to update CWM. See Step 1, above.
Bootloop at the 'n' logo when trying to restore B&N firmware.You probably goofed. Hard as it is to believe, it's very easy to miss the fact that /data wasn't formatted. This is the same problem as the preceding problem. Just follow Step 1, above, and be sure /data actually gets formatted.
1.4.1 is rooted, but unable to install anything from Android Market or Amazon App Store. When this happens, everything appears to be working, but after downloading, apps will fail to install. They key is to use GMPOWER's latest manualnooter and do not ever, even once, install one of the older versions. Refer to Steps 4 and 10, above. I had to restart from scratch to make up for not paying attention and running the old manualnooter versions. Something to do with a database patch that causes problems.
Facebook and other apps are missing from Android Market. UPDATE: This is fixed with GMPOWER's manualnooter-5.01.24.zip. (For other apps: A simple workaround is to install the app onto another Android device, then use Android Assistant to make a backup .apk and copy that to the Nook Color. If you only have a Nook Color Android device, you can create a bootable SD with CyanogenMod (see above) and install to that, then use this procedure to copy the .apk over.)
UPDATES
2/14/2012: Updated to add link to manual procedure for blocking OTA updates using sqlite3.
2/13/2012: Updated to include link to GMPOWER's thread on his ManualNooter for NC 1.4.1.
2/6/2012: Updated links for Dalingrin's overclocked kernel to include Doncarauna's temporary links.
1/24/2012: Updated to reference GMPOWER's manualnooter-5.01.24, restored references to Dalingrin's OC'ed 1.3 kernel.
1/22/2012: Updated to reference GMPOWER's manualnooter-5.01.21, remove references to APPS2SD not working. It's working now! Removed overclock kernel as a concern. GMPOWER's latest MN includes it. Added link to Colchiro's SD HOWTO at Androidforums.
1/16/2012: Updated description of 1.4.1 update now that I've verified this procedure works with the latest, and added link to SQlite OTA blocking procedure.
1/11/2012: Updated link to GMPOWER's ManualNooter update to be more concise.
Thanks, This really helped me to get my nook rooted.
So running CM7.1 off a sd card is another way in a good way or is there a better way to root a NC. The reason I ask is because I am running of a SD and it stalls on me when i go to turn it off and back on. Is there something I need still to download.
ciscom25 said:
So running CM7.1 off a sd card is another way in a good way or is there a better way to root a NC. The reason I ask is because I am running of a SD and it stalls on me when i go to turn it off and back on. Is there something I need still to download.
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Sounds like your CM install is screwed up. It should have no problems powering on and off. However, if you don't care about the B&N stuff, you'll be better off installing CM to internal (eMMC) storage so you're not dependent on the SD card and can use it freely.
This guide is only about rooting the stock firmware if you decide you do want the B&N stuff. Koopkakid08 has a great summary on alternate firmware strategies.
Your link for the MN 5.x.x post needs to point here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20456719&postcount=1631
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Your link for the MN 5.x.x post needs to point here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20456719&postcount=1631
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I'll update to include the single post you pointed to, and move the full-thread discussion to a separate APPS2SD issue at the bottom. I think that will make the step-by-step clearer, while still pointing to the ongoing efforts GMPOWER is working on.
I urge anybody rooting 1.4.1 to track the ongoing discussion and GMPOWER's updates.
Thanks!
Bumpity bump
Do these instructions assume you have CWM already installed? Sorry I got lost at "Copy manualnooter-5.12.XX.zip, or whatever the latest is, to your bootable SD recovery card." because I have no idea what you mean by "bootable SD recovery card". Do I need to create this?
Followed directions
Am rooted but none of the nook tools apps are present when launching zeam
Neither are Gapps.
Must they be flashed separately or were they supposed to bepart of the flashing procedure for manual nooter
Looking at manualnooter-5.12.20, you should have an older version of the Android Market app, gmail, calendar, contacts, maps, homecatcher, rom manager, superuser, talk, YouTube and SoftKeys. What are you missing?
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Do these instructions assume you have CWM already installed? Sorry I got lost at "Copy manualnooter-5.12.XX.zip, or whatever the latest is, to your bootable SD recovery card." because I have no idea what you mean by "bootable SD recovery card". Do I need to create this?
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the bootable SD recovery card is where you install the CWM. creating this recovery card is the first step you to root the nookcolor. Not only you need it to install the manualnooter (MN), it also allows you to reset to stock setting and other good stuffs.
Good catch, guys. I've inserted a new step 1 which points to a guide for creating a bootable CWM card. Thanks for pointing out that omission.
"Updated to reference GMPOWER's manualnooter-5.01.21, remove references to APPS2SD not working. It's working now! Removed overclock kernel as a concern. GMPOWER's latest MN includes it."
Thanks for this thread.
Does this mean you are able to use Nook Color Tweaks to overclock? I upgraded to MN 5.0.1.21 but I still get an error message in Nook Color Tweaks
" Kernel is not compatible with Audio settings. A newer build of CM7 or Dalingrin's overclock kernel is required"
Also, any idea where I can obtain the kernel other than somehow pulling it from a CM7 build?
Thanks,
Ken
Help! I really messed up this time.
I followed the instructions to install 1.3.0 but did not update to 1.4.1 and then I completed the root. I see the Android Market and can actually buy an app. However, installation hangs at "authorizing" because, according to Android Market support, the Nook is not authorized to load apps from the Android Market. So, clearly something is wrong. Either nobody can run those apps, which I doubt, or I messed up.
To compound the problem, I default to Zeam Launcher and cannot boot into B & N. I have also tried to force a reset by 8 failed starts but that did not work. This Noob could really use some help to fix the problem.
chengka said:
"Updated to reference GMPOWER's manualnooter-5.01.21, remove references to APPS2SD not working. It's working now! Removed overclock kernel as a concern. GMPOWER's latest MN includes it."
Thanks for this thread.
Does this mean you are able to use Nook Color Tweaks to overclock? I upgraded to MN 5.0.1.21 but I still get an error message in Nook Color Tweaks
" Kernel is not compatible with Audio settings. A newer build of CM7 or Dalingrin's overclock kernel is required"
Also, any idea where I can obtain the kernel other than somehow pulling it from a CM7 build?
Thanks,
Ken
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A kernel was not included in any of the MN releases for 1.4.1, you will need to download the Dalingrin kernel to use Nook Color Tweaks, LINK
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I followed the instructions to install 1.3.0 but did not update to 1.4.1 and then I completed the root. I see the Android Market and can actually buy an app. However, installation hangs at "authorizing" because, according to Android Market support, the Nook is not authorized to load apps from the Android Market. So, clearly something is wrong. Either nobody can run those apps, which I doubt, or I messed up.
To compound the problem, I default to Zeam Launcher and cannot boot into B & N. I have also tried to force a reset by 8 failed starts but that did not work. This Noob could really use some help to fix the problem.
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The direction were for firmware 1.4.1, since you have firmware 1.3 you can update to 1.4.1, or follow these directions, LINK
Thanks! I have CM7 on way too many devices, tee hee, so I wanted to go back to stock on the reader to compare battery life.
Download Dalingrin's OC Kernel
Thanks for the guide! Working great but I can't seem to find a functioning download link for Dalingrin's kernel. Anyone have one?
I found Dalingrin's kernel here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451
Some folks are having problems with some of the links, though.
Great guide, I tried CM7 on the SD Card, but I just found that I like the plain look of the B&N interface. Using your guide as a template I nootered my Nook, and will be doing my wife's later. I am also looking for Dalingrin's OC Kernel, I have had it from previous nooters, but my hard drive crashed, and I had erased all of my microsd cards, because I had all the files on my hard drive . So if anyone has a working link, or could send me the file I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks, RDRANGER
Downloading binaries of any sort from an unknown source makes me queasy, but if you're feeling daring, there's a post in the Dalingrin 1.3 kernel thread to a copy. Use at your own risk, etc.

Is rooting easy?

I have had my Nook HD for a while now. But now i would like to ask whether rooting is 1. Good for the device and 2. Unlock the full potential of the the tablet.
The reason why i'm asking is i want to sideload apps and be able to install .apk files to it.
Please advice.
Thanks.
gino_76ph said:
I have had my Nook HD for a while now. But now i would like to ask whether rooting is 1. Good for the device and 2. Unlock the full potential of the the tablet.
The reason why i'm asking is i want to sideload apps and be able to install .apk files to it.
Please advice.
Thanks.
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You do not need to Root in order install apks. Go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and make a bootable CWM SD and flash my extras zip which enables 'unknown sources' and allows installing apks.
You do not want to root unless it is absolutely necessary since there is danger of resetting your device. This is all explained in that thread.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
I completely agree with leapinlar. It is not necessary to root, if you don't want to. You can still sideload, by installing "Unknown Sources" package compiled by leapinlar in his respective thread.
Downside to setting it up though, you need to have a microSD card. After that, you need to burn CWM (which is no problem), and then install the .zip. It's all easy, if you follow the guide(s).
However, I posted here to suggest to your a different ROM, perhaps CyanogenMod 10 could deliver what you want? Once I installed it, I'm never turning back to the default B&N ROM. It changes the "bar" at the bottom, into a black Android ICS+ one. I also find that more apps are compatible via Google Play too (one example, Sims FreePlay now appears in the Play Store).
It's completely up to you, all the best.
You can also side load apps if you sign up for a (free) Nook developer account. B&N has step by step instructions on their developer web site.
I suspect leapinlar's version is easier, but I haven't tried it.

[Q] Flash Related Question

Just purchased Nook HD+ and let it do it's thing Software Ver 2.1. Realized Flash was an issue so I went to Play Store on my Laptop and accessed version that was loaded to my Droid Bionic. Google said it would load to other devices and it appeared on HD+. However it was not recognized on webpages in Chrome and same unsupported on ur device error occurred. Tried Dolphin and even though it said Flash enabled in settings would not play on sites I visited.
My question is can this be solved through rooting and then loading the Android Flash APK I downloaded from Adobe? And since this is my first time would the Cyanogen Mod 10.1 for Dumies be the way to go or is there a root method that simply unlocks Flash as an unsupported app within the stock OS.
I know I sound like an idiot so apologies for trampling on the lawn and going on the flowers. I really need flash to work on all sites including desktop versions. Thanks for any guidance.
The official Adobe flash plugin from helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html works fine in Firefox and Dolphin on my CM10.1 HD+. Should not be necessary to root, just allow installation from unknown sources.
Sadly Google has completely disabled flash in mobile chrome.
Sent from my HD+ Running CM 10.1 from emmc
CM 10.1 or CWM?
GandalfTheBlack said:
The official Adobe flash plugin from helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html works fine in Firefox and Dolphin on my CM10.1 HD+. Should not be necessary to root, just allow installation from unknown sources.
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Sounds like you're suggesting installing CyanogenMod and maybe the Dummies thread. This would give me an environment to load what I need with the unknown sources option that is available on my phone but not on stock HD+. If I don't have to worry about BN Updates messing things up that would be work.You don't need the SD card to be inserted for every bootup after this process I hope. Didn't think so and wouldn't want to after the card recognition problems with some of the newer units.
Thanks for the reply.
Jimdish255 said:
Sounds like you're suggesting installing CyanogenMod and maybe the Dummies thread. This would give me an environment to load what I need with the unknown sources option that is available on my phone but not on stock HD+. If I don't have to worry about BN Updates messing things up that would be work.You don't need the SD card to be inserted for every bootup after this process I hope. Didn't think so and wouldn't want to after the card recognition problems with some of the newer units.
Thanks for the reply.
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If you go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature, I have a CWM flashable zip there that allows unknown sources in stock without rooting. Then you can install flash.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
leapinlar said:
If you go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature, I have a CWM flashable zip there that allows unknown sources in stock without rooting. Then you can install flash.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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So with the HD+ Bootable CWM6028 just add the extras zip to the sdcard. (one more dumb ques) Does it launch the extras or separate launcher required?
Also found this thread and playing catch-up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41165076
could not get flash working on cryogen even if i side loaded it.
however i gave carbon a shot and side loaded flash app and Firefox works perfectly.
never tried Firefox on cryogen it may work give it a try.....
Flash works great with stock or the JB CM 10.1. that I use now.
Leapinlar's Extras installs another launcher called Zeam, which you can use if you wish or uninstall. You can access extra apps in the Stock launcher by simultaneously touching "Apps" on the Apps screen and clicking Vol Up.
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Jimdish255 said:
So with the HD+ Bootable CWM6028 just add the extras zip to the sdcard. (one more dumb ques) Does it launch the extras or separate launcher required?
Also found this thread and playing catch-up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41165076
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The extras zip is just a collection of extra stuff. But what you are interested in is allowing unknown sources so you can install flash. Once you flash the extras zip with CWM, there is nothing else you need to do to be able to install the flash apk. It should sideload and install with a file manager.
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Thanks for the answers. I'm going to give it a go without CM or Root for now. If it doesn't work out then plan b. Must have been tossing old low capacity sd cards because the only one left was 1gb. On hold for a day or 2.
Jimdish255 said:
Thanks for the answers. I'm going to give it a go without CM or Root for now. If it doesn't work out then plan b. Must have been tossing old low capacity sd cards because the only one left was 1gb. On hold for a day or 2.
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The 1GB should work. Use my new procedure in my HD/HD+ CWM thread.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
Just a couple final newbie questions.
Should there be any partitions on the SD Card where the image or bootfiles are separate from the zip file extras?
It also seems the laptop does not recognize the image file as taking up most of the 4g card when you go to properties it just shows 5 files before adding the extras zip. Is that correct?
Finally does the extras zip just go to the hd+ root or can it be put in a file folder and flashed from there?.
Thanks for all the newbie catching up.
No separate partitions on this card.
You did not say which method you used, the old procedure or the new.
It should have only the five files plus the unzipped extras file if you put it there. No folders.
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leapinlar said:
No separate partitions on this card.
You did not say which method you used, the old procedure or the new.
It should have only the five files plus the unzipped extras file if you put it there. No folders.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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I made both but will try the bootfiles card first. Thanks for confirming the image files. I been working a lot lately will get to it finally today.
First try with bootfiles has gotten me the C and progress to 100% then went to welcome and home screen. On top it said it was checking SD Card. Did it not boot to it or is there an advanced menu I need to access? I have downloaded extras zip and flash apk to the device already and was hoping to just point it to them.
OK Got the 1gig card to boot with bootfiles. Also installed extras zip. Couldn't install flash from internal (nor recognized) file or with zeam. Shut down and added flash file to card. Then after reboot put card back in and searched for file with launcher and it did install.
I can play flash videos in chrome and in dolphin but dolphin has full controls that chrome does not. However I still cannot figure out how to play flash files I link to through sites like wiziwig.tv which I use often. If anyone has any ideas about these streaming videos please advise.
Thanks for getting me through and if I eventually need to go with full root or CGM I feel confident it is not that difficult.

Fastest most lightweight ROM for NookHD+?

I have a NookHD+ that I'm setting up for a musician to use to play MIDI files with an app that uses a soundfont. This is the only thing the tablet will be used for. What are your suggestions for the most lightweight, fast ROM available without all the crap running in the background to slow it down?
My vote is for Jon Lee's CM10.1/10.2 Yellow Kernel:
10.1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61004989&postcount=351
10.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61884402&postcount=438
Please note: "[10.1] Can be installed with any desired combination of ext4/f2fs filesystems. (unlike 10.2, which requires ext4 system and f2fs data & cache)."
To change to F2FS (full wipe when changing Filesystems), you can use TWRP from here: https://notredame.app.box.com/s/26a4bygh9vbaw7jjq08xr5evomvaw5ww/1/3332706778
If you have data you want to back up, you can make a backup using TWRP, change the filesystem, and then restore. Please note, that I don't think a normal backup will copy your internal storage (sdcard0), so you might want to manually back that up.
I was actually coming on here to try and find a thread with this exact info lol. Anyone else have any suggestions on their prefered rom in order to make the nook hd+ run as fast as possible and reduce lag. After posting this I'm going to go and try and search for a thread that I read a while back that was about changing the resolution and the launcher to speed the nook back up and see if that ends up helping out more than a rom change would. Hope everyone has a happy thanksgiving!

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