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[Q] Is xperia T good for heavy 3d gaming?

Hi im thinking of buying a nice phone for playing games is xperia t right thing. How are games like modern combat 4 , nfs most wanted, spiderman, dark knight rises running on this device . Plz give a quick response

Out of the box, it works OK until it gets hot. There have been numerous threads about thermal throttling kicking in after a while and killing performance - do a search rather than creating an 'urgent' new thread next time.
Having said that, if you are prepared to root then this thread may keep your performance up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1937329

This phone gets HOT when playing games? i thought its 28nm cpu will stay cool. Should i buy xperia T or should i buy htc one XL for gaming
by the way i researched alot and could not find a similar threat.

Most new phones have some sort of heat issue and thermal throttling. I would recommend trying the games on the handsets to see exactly what you feel about it.
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I am running now at 192 - 1458MHz, both cores always on, when the heat is going over about 65°C, CPU is throttled to 1188MHz (and less), still with both cores on. When I am gaming a little longer, CPU temperature is going up to 75°C and battery temperature does not exceed 50°C while connected to wall charger.
All games I know are running smoothly this way.
These temperatures should be fine. If anything goes wrong with these temperatures, then it's a bad device.
Thing that is low on T, is RAM. I would recommend something with 2GB. I believe there will be games with 2GB requirement soon. And T has only 640MB available RAM for applications. And system is using about 300 - 400MB. The rest of RAM is low even for browser and low for future gaming, at least now in ICS.
And internal memory chip has not very good performance. For example SenseMe Slideshow (plastic frames) never makes smooth slideshow. Opening phone or SMS app takes almost 2 seconds. Opening NFS Most Wanted takes about 15 seconds (and this procedure kills all opened apps, very nice. Etc.
I am not telling it's a bad device, I like it (except wifi, that one drives me mad. But I recommend something else for heavy gaming.

peetr_ said:
I am running now at 192 - 1458MHz, both cores always on...
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Out of curiosity, ¿what rom/kernel combo are you using?. I'm interested in undervolting and underclocking my device.
I used Siyah kernel while I was on Timin8r's stock rom, but now I'm running AOKP and I don't know any current kernel compatible with that.

Siah kernel, but works on stock kernel too (except 192MHz). Values are changed manually.

i have already ordered the Xperia T But hope that it will not dissapoint me Devices with 2GB are out of my reach and in my country i found xperia T the fastest in my current budget

You won't be disappointed. It is good device. But has some disadvantages. Just like other devices.

waleed794 said:
i have already ordered the Xperia T But hope that it will not dissapoint me Devices with 2GB are out of my reach and in my country i found xperia T the fastest in my current budget
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I'm sure you will enjoy it. The Xperia T is quite fast and capable.

One more question , Does modern combat 4 run smooth on this device ? And are the graphics high like s3?

waleed794 said:
One more question , Does modern combat 4 run smooth on this device ? And are the graphics high like s3?
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My exp. with mc4, laggy. We do only have 1g RAM
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tr33z said:
My exp. with mc4, laggy. We do only have 1g RAM
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Its got f*** all to do with ram. 1gig is enough. We get full effects like the galaxy s3, and as mentioned in earlier comments adjusting the throttling works wonders. This game never lags for me.
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I basically want every game till date to be playable. Possible?
Bit worried about new Modern Combat 5 and Dead Trigger 2 though.
I can get xperia T (or TX) for 320$ in my country and it is a really really great phone (I tried it in one shopping mall) so...

Option58 said:
I basically want every game till date to be playable. Possible?
Bit worried about new Modern Combat 5 and Dead Trigger 2 though.
I can get xperia T (or TX) for 320$ in my country and it is a really really great phone (I tried it in one shopping mall) so...
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Gameloft have started adding graphics setting to their games which is a good move, so I imagine MC5 will have them. Dunno about dead trigger 2 but they normally optimize their games well. I have a lot of games, they all work fine after reducing the thermal throttling. Only problems you might face is games being unavailable such as a few flu titles, but device spoofing takes care of that. My phone sometimes shuts down from online gaming because the battery can't take the stress, but as long as the throttle allows 12420000 or lower it rarely happens unless battery is low. Plus a friend is trying to make a fix for it, by putting out a voltage based on averages, rather than having a voltage that is too high then it dropping too low under pressure . Also its the same chip as USA version of GS3
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Dead Trigger 1 plays smooth on my Cortex A5 800Mhz and Adreno 200. :\ Few lags here and there but nothing noticeable... I think this will handle Dead Trigger 2... Subway Surfers lags like hell though.
How about N.O.V.A 3 and MC4? I just worry about constant non-playable frame rates. I can't judge by YouTube. Do you get smooth experience with Adreno 225?

Option58 said:
Dead Trigger 1 plays smooth on my Cortex A5 800Mhz and Adreno 200. :\ Few lags here and there but nothing noticeable... I think this will handle Dead Trigger 2... Subway Surfers lags like hell though.
How about N.O.V.A 3 and MC4? I just worry about constant non-playable frame rates. I can't judge by YouTube. Do you get smooth experience with Adreno 225?
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Yeah its pretty good. My shutdowns are getting bad though. If you get one of these get one with a 1780mah battery, the 1850mah is fatally flawed
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I am actually getting 1750mah Xperia TX.

Good! @peetr_ is going to replace his with a 1780mah variant, if this solves the problem I may have to do this too
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Real Racing 3

Hi guys
Did you tried Real racing 3?
the game obviously lags on the 4x . unfortunetly, no developer cares about the 4X, and i think we are gonna have big trouble with future games too. Its the same with the other games; only one core always active, from 700 (??) to 1500Mhz... a shame. One X does lag like the 4X as i've seen at youtube

AW: Real Racing 3
Yes I tried it and - wow, lags like hell!
...sent with my LG Optimus 4X HD...

BlackDuty said:
Yes I tried it and - wow, lags like hell!
...sent with my LG Optimus 4X HD...
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Yes it also lagged for me really bad, and I was kind a sad from it, cause this was the game I was looking for. But after a small search here on the forums I managed to solve it somehow and make it playeble check this link and the first post on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158231&page=7
You can change graphic settings, which is set to high on our phone. I changed it to low and it playes perfect Yes sure its not that pretty but its playeble. goog luck

s3 also lag
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Laggy for me too..but its still playable. I really like the game. Hope they optimize it for tegra soon
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theres a solution. It works perfectly fine for me now. If you have a rooted phone, tweak with the cpu speed and governors. The game works perfectly fine after that. However, the phone heats up and battery drains quickly.

Mahalsk said:
Yes it also lagged for me really bad, and I was kind a sad from it, cause this was the game I was looking for. But after a small search here on the forums I managed to solve it somehow and make it playeble check this link and the first post on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158231&page=7
You can change graphic settings, which is set to high on our phone. I changed it to low and it playes perfect Yes sure its not that pretty but its playeble. goog luck
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Doing this and changing the governor to performance makes the game much smoother.

Try LG Gearbox. Set "Active Cores" to 1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854008
It will run without any lags but with low graphic details (which can not be noticed really)
Be aware that, setting active cores other than 4 with LG Gearbox, sometimes makes your phone freeze or restart.

Mahalsk said:
Yes it also lagged for me really bad, and I was kind a sad from it, cause this was the game I was looking for. But after a small search here on the forums I managed to solve it somehow and make it playeble check this link and the first post on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158231&page=7
You can change graphic settings, which is set to high on our phone. I changed it to low and it playes perfect Yes sure its not that pretty but its playeble. goog luck
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this method worked fine for me. Originaly, the game setups our device on high or mid. I changed to low and now its not lagging and the graphics are still cool.

I didn't change any detail settings.I used No frill cpu to set the cpu to performance and the game runs fine.

I also tried "No frills cpu" with the "performance" option and saw that the game can be played without any problems.
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After exiting the game i set the governor to conservative.I launched the game without changing it at all , In some scenes some lag is noticable but not in game.Playing is also fine.

To be honest, I'm sick of this crap. Most Wanted lags, games designed for Tegra 3 lags (Oh yeah, I have Tegra 3 inside, as you might know), Vice City is not even accessible for normal users of 4X HD and now Real Racing 3 lags also. I will throw this piece of crap away and will buy next Samsung or Google flagship this year. I'm also upset with nVidia. I'm happy my laptop is running by AMD stuff. How you can work with bunch of noobs (question for nVidia) in mobile devices area?
And, of course, brilliant 2012 summer flagship without Jelly Bean. Why HTC One X have this? Same ****ing summer flagship. Jesus Christ.

Great...Now that your are offtopic ,go get your self a samsumg , where lag is a part of their whole UI...

Winudert said:
To be honest, I'm sick of this crap. Most Wanted lags, games designed for Tegra 3 lags (Oh yeah, I have Tegra 3 inside, as you might know), Vice City is not even accessible for normal users of 4X HD and now Real Racing 3 lags also. I will throw this piece of crap away and will buy next Samsung or Google flagship this year. I'm also upset with nVidia. I'm happy my laptop is running by AMD stuff. How you can work with bunch of noobs (question for nVidia) in mobile devices area?
And, of course, brilliant 2012 summer flagship without Jelly Bean. Why HTC One X have this? Same ****ing summer flagship. Jesus Christ.
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I can understand your disapointment, since this is a high end device.
But lets hope JB improves somethng, and remember that HOX and Nexus 7 also have issues with game performance.

Odp: Real Racing 3
Nexus and HOX are running jb so you thinking it can change something in our phone?

xtynekk said:
Nexus and HOX are running jb so you thinking it can change something in our phone?
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yes but i doesnt mean games will be better on JB. the new kernel might improve performance, bujt far away from making it a super phone.

AW: Real Racing 3
Changed Graphic Settings and it's really good! No more lags!

The game just isn't fully optimized for tegra3.
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1x1.5GHz or 4x1.4GHz
you have to be aware that the tegra 3 will give the 1.5GHz only for 1 core, the max CPU speed for 4 cores is 1.4GHz.
so if a game is optimized for 4 cores, it will run much faster on 1.4GHz.
you should keep that in mind when you lock the CPU speed at 1,5GHz

lg have always this problem great hardware fail performance

[Q] How is the gaming performance?

Hi, Moto X will arrive here in Brazil at august 3 and i'm very excited for this phone which i'm sure will be my next, in this moment I have the Razr i <3
So, how is the gaming perfomance in this Phone? someone already tried Asphalt 8 and see if it runs at High graphics?
I just saw everyone talking about Active notifications, touchless controls and many other things but no one talks about gaming performance, so i'm curious
If someone could show in video how is the gaming performance it would be great
I'm sorry for my bad english =)

Well if you are looking for graphics performance it scored a 11286 score on 3dmark benchmark which is pretty dang good. It plays rr3 super smooth and no lag really at all on any thing else I've thrown at it
Contrary to most peoples belief the phone has some pretty beastly capabilities judging from the use I have tested.
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Couple the adreno 320 gpu with only 720p resolution and you get AWESOME gaming performance! NOVA 3 runs better on this thing than it did on my HTC One and my GS4 Active. NFS Most Wanted also runs flawlessly. I'll download Asphalt 8 and report back, but I am confident that it too will run without a hiccup.

Keller_psycho said:
Well if you are looking for graphics performance it scored a 11286 score on 3dmark benchmark which is pretty dang good. It plays rr3 super smooth and no lag really at all on any thing else I've thrown at it
Contrary to most peoples belief the phone has some pretty beastly capabilities judging from the use I have tested.
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exiting to get mine *.*
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Couple the adreno 320 gpu with only 720p resolution and you get AWESOME gaming performance! NOVA 3 runs better on this thing than it did on my HTC One and my GS4 Active. NFS Most Wanted also runs flawlessly. I'll download Asphalt 8 and report back, but I am confident that it too will run without a hiccup.
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Great!! I just wanted to know if Asphalt 8 runs at the highest graphics because asphalt 8 is locked the medium and high graphics in some phones, on my razr i for example it runs only in low graphics, and is locked the medium and high

miike.mm said:
exiting to get mine *.*
Great!! I just wanted to know if Asphalt 8 runs at the highest graphics because asphalt 8 is locked the medium and high graphics in some phones, on my razr i for example it runs only in low graphics, and is locked the medium and high
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Just downloaded it. It defaults to medium but you can set it to high. I just did 2 races on high and it ran smooth as butter with zero noticeable frame rate drops.

_MetalHead_ said:
Just downloaded it. It defaults to medium but you can set it to high. I just did 2 races on high and it ran smooth as butter with zero noticeable frame rate drops.
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Greatt! This phone is powerful! Cant wait to buy mine *.* I heard that Moto Maker will be available here in Brazil too *.*

Let's just say that my phone managed to render a 1,000,000+ poly CAD model and animate it at 60FPS without hiccups while my friend's laptop with a dedicated GPU choked.
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iandr0idos said:
Let's just say that my phone managed to render a 1,000,000+ poly CAD model and animate it at 60FPS without hiccups while my friend's laptop with a dedicated GPU choked.
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What's your friends computer? A Dell laptop with intel graphics?

cowenby said:
What's your friends computer? A Dell laptop with intel graphics?
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An HP Envy.

Well just in specs, it has the same GPU as the HTC One and Sammy S4 yet only has to push around less than half the pixels. This phone is butter. Glad to see at least one company realizing that after a certain point GPU > CPU

iandr0idos said:
Let's just say that my phone managed to render a 1,000,000+ poly CAD model and animate it at 60FPS without hiccups while my friend's laptop with a dedicated GPU choked.
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Well just in specs, it has the same GPU as the HTC One and Sammy S4 yet only has to push around less than half the pixels. This phone is butter. Glad to see at least one company realizing that after a certain point GPU > CPU
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Great! Definitely it will be my next phone! i saw many videos on youtube of Moto X beating S4 and HTC One in performance, opening games is much faster than s4 and ONE

Is this Apple propaganda?

http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...r-graphics-performance-vs-apple-iphone-6-plus
I have see a Note 4 running GTA on YouTube,, and it was lagging badly..

Yes gpu delivers lower performance than iphone 6 but its not poor .both gpus have same power but 2k lowers note 4 performance but its still more powerful than ipad air which has lower res.
And the video u saw on youtube is quallcom version of note 4 and adreno gpu s always lagged on gta games on high setting due to lack of optimzation.

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http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...r-graphics-performance-vs-apple-iphone-6-plus
I have see a Note 4 running GTA on YouTube,, and it was lagging badly..
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So because it doesn't do well in one benchmark the GPU is somehow worthless? :silly: According to apple insider apparently the Geforce GTX 660TI is faster than an AMD 290X. That's some quality reporting right there.

Well I'm no expert but look up GTA Note 4 on YouTube, looks terribly laggy.
I'm hoping to get a Note 4 - but not if it can't perform..

Outside of that being Apple dedicated website, running just one benchmark and writing nonsense (they start writing about Note 4, then post preliminary??? cost analysis of GS 4???? from 1.5 yr ago, WTF) I'm not sure if it's propaganda or somebody overdose on something or maybe forgot his medication
I think both.

Not optimized. Performance WILL be fine on other games. Don't worry.

JCM800 said:
Well I'm no expert but look up GTA Note 4 on YouTube, looks terribly laggy.
I'm hoping to get a Note 4 - but not if it can't perform..
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It's not lag. The camera just has a really low fps. Look at his other videos and even his hand moving looks like it "lags". It's just the camera don't worry.

You will be able to play most games, just not at the maximum settings, these tests are much more intensive than the mobile games, to the people talking about the screen resolution, there is also an offscreen test which doesn't care about the resolution and the scores are still lower.

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You will be able to play most games, just not at the maximum settings, these tests are much more intensive than the mobile games, to the people talking about the screen resolution, there is also an offscreen test which doesn't care about the resolution and the scores are still lower.
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offscreen tests care about res just not screen res. all offscreen tests done in 1080p and a8 gpu and note 4 gets around 17 fps on offscreen tests. and both higher than my ipad air and i can play everything at full without a stutter i dont think there will be any problem.

Oh no.. a poorly optimized game isn't as fast as it is on an iPhone. Oh jeez it MUST perform awful.. right?
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Oh, cmon guys, little reality check: Note 4 is one of, if not the fastest phone on the market ATM. If it can not play the games properly, nothing else can. In most benchmarks Exynos is as fast or faster than Snapdragon. There is something about this particular benchmark that makes Exynos run poorly, that's why it was picked for this article. And how come no Note4 Snapdragon version? Maybe because Snapdragon doesn't have the issue? The most opinionated bunch of crap I read in a long while.

How has your experience been with 3D Performance & Emulators?

For those of you that already have your handsets, how has your experience been with the performance of 3D games and more intensive emulators? Have there been any games that have shown noticeable choppiness or sluggishness?
Edit: I read in another thread that Real Racing is giving Snapdragon owners problems. Also - I'm a bit curious as to how PPSSPP is treating people.

I have no issues running epsxe with open gl and all setting at maximum. Playing ff9 atm. Emulators shouldn't be an issue.

I just play Asphalt 8 on my Note 4 Exynos and it gets around 60fps at max settings.

I try few 3D games in my Exynos N910C include Real Racing 3 and Death Trigger 2. So far so great. No issue.

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I just play Asphalt 8 on my Note 4 Exynos and it gets around 60fps at max settings.
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Could you post gamebench prints of the performance on some games?

Another gamebench video (exynos)

My device is finally here and it performs great (Exynos - C version)! But it gets warm (just warm no hot) fast and the throttle is very strong!! My Antutu after playing minion rush for 10 minutes was 35k and after a lot of gaming my GFX T-rex on-screen was 8 and off screen was 16. With the phone unused I got 25 and 37 fps for each of them. It is hot here (28C = 82F) but this throttle is too powerful! I'd rather have the phone getting hotter with better performance. Don't know if that would be possible.

The Galaxy Note 4 has a terrible 3d performance, i imagine it is because it is rendering at 1440, my HTC One M7 did far better at 1080. A few games that are jittery messes are anything GTA and also Gangstar, not impressed at all. Perhaps somebody will hack it so that it renders at a lower resolution, because really the snapdragon 805 is not up to intense 3d games at native resolution.

I have better gaming experience in Asphalt 8 with the Note 4 Exynos+1440p than with my Note 3 Qualcomm+1080p.

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I have better gaming experience in Asphalt 8 with the Note 4 Exynos+1440p than with my Note 3 Qualcomm+1080p.
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Yes same for me too. I really impressed with exynos gaming performance asphalt 8 is just 60 fps all the time it was like 30 or something on my quallcom note 3

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Yes same for me too. I really impressed with exynos gaming performance asphalt 8 is just 60 fps all the time it was like 30 or something on my quallcom note 3
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Yeah, It surprised me. I would like to see some Gamebench of a Qualcomm Note 4.

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The Galaxy Note 4 has a terrible 3d performance, i imagine it is because it is rendering at 1440, my HTC One M7 did far better at 1080. A few games that are jittery messes are anything GTA and also Gangstar, not impressed at all. Perhaps somebody will hack it so that it renders at a lower resolution, because really the snapdragon 805 is not up to intense 3d games at native resolution.
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I'm using NOMone Resolution Changer to set display to 1080p to play games. When you change the resolution everything looks wrong (big icons and etc) but the games are actually perfect but less pixels to push so better performance. If you are rooted and mind gaming performance, this is a must have.

Just curious - since this is the one thing that might make me change my mind about not rooting my phone - Does NOMone Resolution Changer know to automatically change the resolution only when a game is specifically opened? Or do you need to change the resolution first - and then start the game?

For the guy saying that GTA is stuttery.. its nothing to do with the resolution. Its all to do with heat and the Samsung DVFS voltage and frequency control.
With DVFS enabled after a few mins of GTA it slows down a little bit and starts to get stuttery because it throttles too easy and underclocks the CPU and GPU by about half.
If your rooted and disable DVFS you get the full GPU and CPU speed in games like GTA vice city and its extremely fluid.

Trinatek said:
Just curious - since this is the one thing that might make me change my mind about not rooting my phone - Does NOMone Resolution Changer know to automatically change the resolution only when a game is specifically opened? Or do you need to change the resolution first - and then start the game?
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Second option unfortunately. If you find an application that does that, please tell me. I didn't look for it though as NOMone is working great and I'm a bit afraid of messing with the resolution too much.

Just got myself an exynos note 4. Very nice phone but aside from a little touchwiz stutter, games such as real racing 3 and clash of clans stutter. My nexus 4 ran them fine. Did a quick antutu benchmark to see whats up and this is what i got without flight mode on. What do you think? Benchmarks say my phone should handle them with ease but thats not the case. Anyone with a solution?
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djunited said:
Just got myself an exynos note 4. Very nice phone but aside from a little touchwiz stutter, games such as real racing 3 and clash of clans stutter. My nexus 4 ran them fine. Did a quick antutu benchmark to see whats up and this is what i got without flight mode on. What do you think? Benchmarks say my phone should handle them with ease but thats not the case. Anyone with a solution?
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Mine can just run them fine. Try a factory reset.

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Mine can just run them fine. Try a factory reset.
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Factory reset on a brand new phone that just got set up?
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Probably some rogue app you got running. Reset like he said or restart. No stutter on this old games so no fix required. Emulators have been good tho getting over 30fps in a few n64 games mupen64 that have tried, dolphin still not the best speed. DraStic was made for the note line. Runs awesome with each game I have.

Has to be coc related. I read a few reviews on the play store from note 4 users who have seen this as well. Much more demanding games are running great so ill just wait on an update.
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