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Here comes THAT thread: Jelly Bean?

Alright, everyone.
My Atrix 2 just died on me. Well, didn't die, the screen cracked open, long story.
Basically, I need a new phone.
However, because the Atrix 2 STILL hasn't gotten ICS, I swore to never return to Motorola. Yeah, it's not 100% their fault that it's taking them so long, but seriously? It's become really annoying.
So I promised to ONLY buy Android products that have the word "Nexus" in their title, phones that get DIRECT updates from Google without wait and without alterations.
Problem is, I was gonna hold out on the Galaxy Nexus since I feel like a new one must be on the horizon.
Then I heard of the Atrix HD, which, like the other Atrixes (Atrice? Atrici?) has a very amazing starting price of $100.
And now Motorola mobile is owned by Google, right?
So, the TL;DR version of it is this:
Is this phone likely to see timely and consistent updates from Google? I know it just came out, but you guys are really great at what you do, so I'm wondering what your predictions are. Is this phone likely to see Jelly Bean at all in the near future?
I'd like to buy a phone that is future proof to AT LEAST Jelly Bean.
Thanks

The updates still come from Motorola. The acquisition doesn't mean anything to the updates. But this is probably one of Motorola's flagship phones now, so it'll have to get at least Jelly bean.
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mugabuga said:
The updates still come from Motorola. The acquisition doesn't mean anything to the updates. But this is probably one of Motorola's flagship phones now, so it'll have to get at least Jelly bean.
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according to what i've read, MB models are midrange, XT models are flagship. Regardless of this being the most powerful at the moment, it's mid range. There will be a Droid RAZR HD that will surpass this quickly with an XT model number.

bimmerd00d said:
according to what i've read, MB models are midrange, XT models are flagship. Regardless of this being the most powerful at the moment, it's mid range. There will be a Droid RAZR HD that will surpass this quickly with an XT model number.
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That can't be right. When the Atrix 4G launched it was the top of the line Motorola phone, the first dual core phone and won best of CES 2011. Anyway I'd have to agree with the previous poster it will eventually receive JB.

From my understanding, any device that runs ICS will be able to run JB

Well the only company that has conformed jellybean on there top of the line smartphones is htc!! And they did that yesterday only!! So i will give motorola few more days before hearing about jelly bean upgrade!! And we should understand only phone that has jelly bean is galaxy nexus!! But since motorola mobile is part of google now so we can expect faster upgrade cycle!! And mostly vanilla experience to!!
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hotrod010 said:
Well the only company that has conformed jellybean on there top of the line smartphones is htc!! And they did that yesterday only!! So i will give motorola few more days before hearing about jelly bean upgrade!! And we should understand only phone that has jelly bean is galaxy nexus!! But since motorola mobile is part of google now so we can expect faster upgrade cycle!! And mostly vanilla experience to!!
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Agreed, coming from a RAZR (yesterday) I'm well aware of Moto's lag time in Android updates. I have to say, though, they did an awesome job with ICS... Took forever, but it's awesome!
I took the red pill... It's the mAtrix for me...
http://android-gz.com

Well hope its gonna be soon this time!!!cant wait for buttery smooth experience!!!
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I'm pretty happy with ICS, so I'm OK waiting a little while for JB. Motorola will probably release it in 6 months, then AT&T will delay it for 6-9 more...not that it's really OK, I wish updates were faster. They need to cut out the carrier-specific modifications!

My wife just today got the new Motorola Atrix HD. So far I think it is a very nice phone and hope she gets great service from it. I to hope that the Jelly Bean update is pushed out for this phone. Only time will tell.

According to this, the Motorola Defy will get JB and it's reasonable that the newest devices will too...
Jelly Bean for the MyTouch 4G Slide, Desire HD, and Motorola Defy
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Just noticed it's a ROM so I'm assuming this is specially made b/c of it unlocked? But here is another quote...
"These devices are all a little older than some would expect to be receiving ports. But if the HTC HD2 can get it, newer devices should be able to as well."

Motorola Defy is still running on an old modified Froyo kernel, seeing as how they never even got gingerbread.
Quarx ported Jellybean over, however.Motorola has long stopped during about the defy
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Your best bet is a to go for a Nexus device it you want something that is close to being future proof. I kind of know what you are going through with waiting for a new nexus phone part of the reason I didn't drop $350 GNex. The best advice I can say is go with the AHD for now, you can even get one for $50 on contract from best buy or amazon as long are you don't mind going with the new tiered plans.
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The good news is that AT&T isn't forcing you onto the new shared data plans...yet. I figure they'll eventually decide to do that to keep up with Verizon, but for now they look a little better because of it.

SnoMan88 said:
Your best bet is a to go for a Nexus device it you want something that is close to being future proof. I kind of know what you are going through with waiting for a new nexus phone part of the reason I didn't drop $350 GNex. The best advice I can say is go with the AHD for now, you can even get one for $50 on contract from best buy or amazon as long are you don't mind going with the new tiered plans.
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Why do people still think best buy can't keep unlimited plans? Hasn't this dumb rumor been squashed months ago? Sure there may have been some dumb bbym guy that sucked at his job and lost someone unlimited but don't bunch us all in with his uneducated ass. Come see me, I got you on unlimited.
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Why do people still think best buy can't keep unlimited plans? Hasn't this dumb rumor been squashed months ago? Sure there may have been some dumb bbym guy that sucked at his job and lost someone unlimited but don't bunch us all in with his uneducated ass. Come see me, I got you on unlimited.
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Doesn't BestBuy charge you a Restocking Fee if you decide to return anything, especially a phone? Plus certain electronics only have 15 days instead of 30 days to return an item. If this is still true...save yourself the headache and get it from Costco (at their store or online with free shipping) and they give you free accessories (see my post about Costco just a few days ago).
If BestBuy has changed their policy, good but I can't tell you how long it's been since I've stepped foot in their store because of this. It's maybe part of the reason why they're struggling with their stores and trying to hang on to their mobile wireless departments.

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Doesn't BestBuy charge you a Restocking Fee if you decide to return anything, especially a phone? Plus certain electronics only have 15 days instead of 30 days to return an item. If this is still true...save yourself the headache and get it from Costco (at their store or online with free shipping) and they give you free accessories (see my post about Costco just a few days ago).
If BestBuy has changed their policy, good but I can't tell you how long it's been since I've stepped foot in their store because of this. It's maybe part of the reason why they're struggling with their stores and trying to hang on to their mobile wireless departments.
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Totally agree with you!!! i dont buy any thing form bestbuy anymore!!!

OK.. so this thread turned from a JB discussion to Best Buy? LOL. I'm about to pull the trigger on either the AHD or GS3 and am having a tough time deciding due to the JB issue and a few others. From the sounds of most of the comments here, it doesn't appear likely that Moto will offer the JB update, or am I missing something? The GS3 is a nice phone, but the screen on the AHD is far superior and the build quality of the Moto phone seems solid. What do you guys in this forum think? AT&T will sell me either phone for 50% off, no activation fee and a credit back to my account for the CA sales tax too

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OK.. so this thread turned from a JB discussion to Best Buy? LOL. I'm about to pull the trigger on either the AHD or GS3 and am having a tough time deciding due to the JB issue and a few others. From the sounds of most of the comments here, it doesn't appear likely that Moto will offer the JB update, or am I missing something? The GS3 is a nice phone, but the screen on the AHD is far superior and the build quality of the Moto phone seems solid. What do you guys in this forum think? AT&T will sell me either phone for 50% off, no activation fee and a credit back to my account for the CA sales tax too
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You strike me as someone who intends on modding ur phone, running roms and other mods or apps that require root so that makes the decision very easy, the GS3. It comes with an unlocked bootloader, root was gained before the phone was even released, the dev support is massive, aftermarket support is amazing, and JB is coming soon! Dont like the battery life? You can use a higher capacity battery if you choose. The camera is lovely! Especially since you're gonna be getting it for half off, that makes it a no brainer!
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Gadgetz.... thanks.. Actually your assumption is a little off base and that's due to me having been an iOS person for the past 4 years. And it's also the reason I'm drawn to Android, and even moreso after having watched the various vids about JB and Google Now.. simply amazing new version of Android.
So if I understand what you're saying, you're recommending I go with the GS3 for various reasons, regardless of me not liking the blue tint on AMOLED screens. And I can understand this to some degree. Also, when you install Nova I thought it only changed the look of the home pages and icons. Are you saying that it completely changes the UI including the notification bar where you can toggle on/off for Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi, etc? Sorry, but I'm a noob. I do like the new garnet red color on the GS3 but all of them are fingerprint magnets as you know. What case and screen protector do you recommend? Already found a high end, class 10 32mb microSD for $35 on eBay.

Interesting X phone rumors

http://androidandme.com/2013/03/new...devices-will-have-user-customizable-hardware/
Sounds promising. Updates from motorola? Not google? Stock android? Is google going to skin there own software. This would all make sense if its true. It kind of fits in the mold of the nexus program rumors but instead of any company making a nexus phone.... Motorola will build a custom phone for you. I wonder if this is there idea to kill the nexus phones completely.
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Smallsmx3 said:
http://androidandme.com/2013/03/new...devices-will-have-user-customizable-hardware/
Sounds promising. Updates from motorola? Not google? Stock android? Is google going to skin there own software. This would all make sense if its true. It kind of fits in the mold of the nexus program rumors but instead of any company making a nexus phone.... Motorola will build a custom phone for you. I wonder if this is there idea to kill the nexus phones completely.
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Let`s hope it won`t be a bummer like the S4 and availability will be better and broader than with the N4

Well i just hope it can be upgraded... Id rather send it in to get more ram than have to buy a new phone
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This is insane if any of it is true

Hey check it out, a bunch of wild speculation and cold reading from Androidandme

So far all I know about the x phone is that the name has an x in it.
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I seriously doubt that both of these can be true:
1) The phone will be shown off at I/O in May and released in June.
2) It will replace the Nexus line.
It seems to me that the X Phone cannot do both of those. In the past, Google hasn't been quite as greedy with its Nexus line as OEMs are with their skinned lines. If the X Phone is to replace the Nexus line, it will not be available until ~October, around a year after the N4's release. To release a phone that is set to replace the Nexus line only a half-year after the N4 would not go over very well with most people. I don't think I am the only one disgusted by Samsung releasing the GS4 9-10 months after its GS3 release or the new rumor that HTC plans to abandon the Droid DNA in favor of the HTC One on Verizon (which I also think will ultimately turn out to be untrue).

Swap-able hardware? BS.
Or the device is gonna be huge. Memory/CPU/GPU are a SOC (System-on-a-chip), meaning the entire kit and caboodle is a single piece soldered to the board. Even IF they got a supplier to manufacture multiple SOC variations, it would end up being more expensive at the cheapest option than to just load it up with the highest end one available by default, thanks to tooling/bulk purchases.

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I seriously doubt that both of these can be true:
1) The phone will be shown off at I/O in May and released in June.
2) It will replace the Nexus line.
It seems to me that the X Phone cannot do both of those. In the past, Google hasn't been quite as greedy with its Nexus line as OEMs are with their skinned lines. If the X Phone is to replace the Nexus line, it will not be available until ~October, around a year after the N4's release. To release a phone that is set to replace the Nexus line only a half-year after the N4 would not go over very well with most people. I don't think I am the only one disgusted by Samsung releasing the GS4 9-10 months after its GS3 release or the new rumor that HTC plans to abandon the Droid DNA in favor of the HTC One on Verizon (which I also think will ultimately turn out to be untrue).
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Well most rumors say that it won't be announced at the i/o so both can be true. I don't see a new phone getting announced at any Google function. I believe that motorola will announce it on there own.
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/13/4097778/motorola-google-phone-leak

Looks nice
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I don't see it coming out any time soon, and it better not because I just bought a Nexus 4

crachel said:
Hey check it out, a bunch of wild speculation and cold reading from Androidandme
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Just to let you know this was the same site that leaked everything about the nexus 4 up until release date
Edit:here is another x phone leak
http://androidandme.com/2013/03/sma...one-and-its-going-to-level-the-playing-field/

Its really not hard to believe. Moto has the hardware capability.

If half of what I hear about the X-Phone is true, I'd be amazed. The more I read, the more I can't wait.
We are in a great and exciting time for smartphones!
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Sounds like a nerds wet dream lol

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Yep. That's all they know how to do. I usually immediately consider anything I read on that site to be false. Just a fantasy land over there.
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htc and updates

really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?

finalhit said:
really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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Htc updates about as good as anyone else.
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finalhit said:
really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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According to this article (and others like it I could not find right away) the reputation you speak of for HTC is not true. In terms up updating thier phones, HTC is the best of the major OEMs. Get a ONE!

... not to mention this is the first time (or first time in a while) we've seen them drop the same phone on many carriers, and tout a phone as their flagship for the year.
I feel like they'll be behind making this thing the best they can make it this year.

The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.

swaze said:
The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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Not to mention that Samsung only really updates their flagships and not the lower end phones. I just came over to One from an S3.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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gk1984 said:
Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Indeed, with the One I think we're going to see big things for HTC over the next year. A unified phone being the biggest contributor to their increase sales. They did what the GS3 did originally but stepped up their game with a modern phone with modern specs. Competition is good for the two, it will make everyone else reach harder to stay on par and they'll compete for who has the better phone. I think when 5.0 is dropped most likely next month, both manufactures will be rushing to get it out, we can only hope that the carriers don't drop the ball.

I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/

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I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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GS4 already comes with it
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H4rryTipp3r said:
GS4 already comes with it
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Then what are you doing here?

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Then what are you doing here?
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As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I know, was just poking some fun. I've had a Samsung Moment, LG Optimus One, then an HTC Evo 3D all on Sprint. I also follow smartphones/tablets and new technology in general daily (actually, part of my job sort of). What I've seen is Samsung sucked at updates until that had success with the Galaxy series, even the early Galaxy's were slow to get updates. The LG phones were lucky to get anything at all. HTC updated pretty well recently, except in the US. International HTC devices got updates pretty quickly and regularly, but Sprint was slow to do so. Sprint seems to have been slow about this in general just like every other carrier here in the US. Although, the Evo 3D was extremely late (almost a year later) to the ICS party. This update was promised to us pretty early and it started to feel like we'd never get it by the time it released. Then Sprint held it for testing I assume for a few more months. The Evo 3D users were suspecting Sprint was holding onto the ICS update to encourage people to buy their Boost Mobile variant of the phone as it released with ICS, was the same exact phone with a different name, and was supposed to attract people to Boost. Not sure if this is the real reason, it was a month or two after that phone launched the rest of us got ICS.
In either case, HTC wasn't bad about it, they weren't great but they weren't bad. Sprint, on the other hand, seems to have been slow and I know there are a number of reasons for this. They need to test everything before they launch it. Does it work on their network properly and with their bloatware? They have to prioritize their devices to test and they have to be thorough to ensure they aren't liable for anything going wrong. It's a crappy system, but thats how it is.

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GS4 already comes with it
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And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
I don't like holding this phone, and I can't overstate how much that informs the experience of using it. It makes an awful first impression, slippery and slimy and simply unpleasant in your hand. My white review unit is completely smooth and glossy, with a subtle checkered pattern that looks textured but is neither grippy nor textured anywhere on its body. Even the silver band around the sides, which is obviously supposed to look like metal, is plastic. Everyone I showed the GS4 to frowned and wrinkled their nose as if it smelled bad, before rubbing their fingers on the back of the phone and then handing it back to me — that's the opposite of the standard reaction to HTC’s One, which everyone wants to ogle and hold. That's going to be a huge problem for Samsung, because the GS4 and One are likely to be next to each other on store shelves, and at least on first impression there's absolutely no contest between the two.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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Hmmm Evo LTE came out June, was updated December. 6 months, only 2 months after Sprint released the update for the SG3. Sounds like its not HTC or Samsung but the carrier who is the culprit.
Now lets see. All the GS3's outside the US got upgraded to 4.1.2 in december. Has the GS3 been updated in the US yet? Nope, has it recieved the new samsung premium suite package that everyone else with the GS3 recieved? Nope. Hmmmmm....
If you actually looked at the link posted above, you can clearly see that there isn't much of a difference between Samsung and HTC as far as timely updates.

Harfainx said:
And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
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I honestly don't care about what it's made of as long as it looks good, and performs good I'm fine. I am more of a specs and software kind of person. Although the one does have me pretty intrigued because I've never had a phone built as so, and I listen to music and watch a lot of videos so I know those speakers will come in handy. I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4. The only reason I'm hesitant is because I'm not a big fan of sense... nor am I a big fan of all the stuff you have to do to root the thing. Compared to Samsung phones, it's way more difficult.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4.
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).

Harfainx said:
As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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If you want that, why not get the note 2? It's going to get a lot of the S4 features, and I wouldn't go with LG. The Optimus G has been out less then a year, and had 1 update and is already EOL.
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This Isn't Even Funny

Just when you thought not having 4.2.2 was lemon juice on the slow update scars... You get this great present from HTC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44410651
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XaoSilentrzk said:
Just when you thought not having 4.2.2 was lemon juice on the slow update scars... You get this great present from HTC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44410651
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Don't worry, in the US the One X people will have to wait 6 months for the update you linked. Surely by then the US carriers will have released the 4.2.2 update for the HTC One. Surely!

Well, it's supposed to be in Sprint's hands right now. Problem is, they say it's up to HTC. You know how the story goes. It'll get here when it gets here. Sprint will probably update the EVOLTE before the One.

That's Taiwan. We can only use that as a reference point, nothing else.
But I think this is just getting friggin ridiculous. Maybe there's a serious bug in the update like battery drain and only the US carriers are caring enough to resolve it with HTC?

Lets be honest here... There is a reason Samsung is WINNING! How far can build quality and sense get you when post support sucks ass. Flagships are being killed off by HTC after a year while Samsung updates OG EVO status devices. The GS2 shares the same OS as us for gods sake... This is ridiculous.
I've always been one to steer people away from the plastic GS devices, but you can't deny they are future proof in getting them. I'll have to definitely wait on next year's flags instead of dumping money day 1 like I've done the last 2 years.
And for the fanboys that say... Leave the one... No I will not. I'm NOT saying it's not the best device, but you can't deny post support sucks on our end.
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Silentrx relax man its not a big update. 4.1 is smooth on this phone. The One is still tits, no problems with this phone, just getting used to sense 5 initially
Again tho for updates you need to be on a GSM carrier and have an unlocked Nex
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Everyone always forgets that Samsung is pretty bad with updates also.
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stevenk007 said:
Everyone always forgets that Samsung is pretty bad with updates also.
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They've made GREAT progress in fixing this issue though while HTC continues to fall behind in the U.S.

XaoSilentrzk said:
Lets be honest here... There is a reason Samsung is WINNING! How far can build quality and sense get you when post support sucks ass. Flagships are being killed off by HTC after a year while Samsung updates OG EVO status devices. The GS2 shares the same OS as us for gods sake... This is ridiculous.
I've always been one to steer people away from the plastic GS devices, but you can't deny they are future proof in getting them. I'll have to definitely wait on next year's flags instead of dumping money day 1 like I've done the last 2 years.
And for the fanboys that say... Leave the one... No I will not. I'm NOT saying it's not the best device, but you can't deny post support sucks on our end.
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Well, if we're being honest. There is a reason Samsung is winning, and it's called marketing. It most certainly is NOT because HTC phones are slow getting such minor updates like 4.2. Most people don't know anything about it, and it's not even close. The only ones who really care that much are the people on XDA who root and run custom roms, and we are the minority by a HUGE margin.
Honestly, it's even smaller than that, because some of us who root and run custom roms could still care less about this update. It brings next to nothing for a lot of us. Kernel and the ability to run 4.2 roms will be fun...but not that many people care all that much. We all know how annoying it is, it does suck..but it's definitely not the reason why Samsung is winning lol

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Silentrx relax man its not a big update. 4.1 is smooth on this phone. The One is still tits, no problems with this phone, just getting used to sense 5 initially
Again tho for updates you need to be on a GSM carrier and have an unlocked Nex
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Nope... Don't need nexus because AOSP is boring as Hell. It doesn't even have facebook integration for gods sake. As a matter of fact sir... I have something for you... Check inbox immediately please!
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Rippley05 said:
Well, if we're being honest. There is a reason Samsung is winning, and it's called marketing. It most certainly is NOT because HTC phones are slow getting such minor updates like 4.2. Most people don't know anything about it, and it's not even close. The only ones who really care that much are the people on XDA who root and run custom roms, and we are the minority by a HUGE margin.
Honestly, it's even smaller than that, because some of us who root and run custom roms could still care less about this update. It brings next to nothing for a lot of us. Kernel and the ability to run 4.2 roms will be fun...but not that many people care all that much. We all know how annoying it is, it does suck..but it's definitely not the reason why Samsung is winning lol
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I mostly agree. Remember when people used to call whatever android phone a Droid? Now they say galaxy, even if it's not a Samsung phone. They certainly did something right with the brand name.
Hopefully htc will stick with the One moniker and recover lost customers
It is kinda nice to be the only one among all my friends to have a One while all my Galaxy friends envy my One and say they should have got that instead
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^^^^^ same for me. Got my gf an s4 since she's on verizon and she hates it. Shes always using my one
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Am I the only one not seeing a problem here? HTC is updating a phone that's a year old with the 2nd latest OS version. If anything I would say we should be excited about this.
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bstevens23 said:
Am I the only one not seeing a problem here? HTC is updating a phone that's a year old with the 2nd latest OS version. If anything I would say we should be excited about this.
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Excited about what? The One X deserved the update without a doubt... They should have done this without even thinking. Problem I have is... Not even the DEV edition HTC one which is unbranded sold directly from HTC is still on outdated OS regardless of how minor the update is. If the update is so minor... Why do we not have it? Why does the DEV edition NOT have it officially? It makes no sense that this phone was release 4-5 months ago international and they just not got the update. Ours was released 3 months ago and no update in sight. Call it what you want, but I dare you say POST SUPPORT from HTC is better than POST SUPPORT from Samsung?
NO I'M NOT GOING TO CRAPWIZ so please don't make this cool story useless replying that
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It's just a phone
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XaoSilentrzk said:
Excited about what? The One X deserved the update without a doubt... They should have done this without even thinking. Problem I have is... Not even the DEV edition HTC one which is unbranded sold directly from HTC is still on outdated OS regardless of how minor the update is. If the update is so minor... Why do we not have it? Why does the DEV edition NOT have it officially? It makes no sense that this phone was release 4-5 months ago international and they just not got the update. Ours was released 3 months ago and no update in sight. Call it what you want, but I dare you say POST SUPPORT from HTC is better than POST SUPPORT from Samsung?
NO I'M NOT GOING TO CRAPWIZ so please don't make this cool story useless replying that
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Sprint is holding it up at this point, not htc. I'm pretty sure tho that Sprint is forcing htc to make some signal improvements, since a lot of people complain the S4/3 has it better due to the plastic body.
No source, just my thoughts. No other imaginable reason why we haven't gotten the update
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Sprint is holding it up at this point, not htc. I'm pretty sure tho that Sprint is forcing htc to make some signal improvements, since a lot of people complain the S4/3 has it better due to the plastic body.
No source, just my thoughts. No other imaginable reason why we haven't gotten the update
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Hasn't that been the trend the last 2 HTC phones? The evo lte has terrible radios
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What I have been thinking is once Verzion starts selling the HTC One, which comes with 4.2.2, then u.s. carriers will be like oh I guess we can update now haha that's what I'm thinking.. but even of they don't, I've herd that since Verizon is CDMA, we will be able to port it fairly easy!
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Bairdog35 said:
What I have been thinking is once Verzion starts selling the HTC One, which comes with 4.2.2, then u.s. carriers will be like oh I guess we can update now haha that's what I'm thinking.. but even of they don't, I've herd that since Verizon is CDMA, we will be able to port it fairly easy!
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This could be close. Verizion usually wants something "exclusive" when it comes to the phones they carry. They may be the only US carrier with 4.2.2 for a limited time through a deal with HTC.
Unrelated note, why do people think sprint has the update already?

Since HTC doesn't seem to know how to update my phone and I obviously don't know how to enjoy it, I'm probably just gonna kill myself. What's the point of life if Satan, sorry - HTC, can't provide a menial software update?
Exactly, no point to life without 4.2. I NEED IT NOW.

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HTC rep came by today. I asked her about the 4.2.2 update and she said sprint and att wont get the update till after Verizon releases the HTC one. Verizon paid HTC for 4.2 on launch for their release exclusively. She also stated that because of Verizon's deal the other 2 carriers won't be getting the update to test till after the Verizon release. She says from what they've told her in the mettings sprint won't have the ota ready till 6-8 weeks after Verizon launches their device.
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HTC rep came by today. I asked her about the 4.2.2 update and she said sprint and att wont get the update till after Verizon releases the HTC one. Verizon paid HTC for 4.2 on launch for their release exclusively. She also stated that because of Verizon's deal the other 2 carriers won't be getting the update to test till after the Verizon release. She says from what they've told her in the mettings sprint won't have the ota ready till 6-8 weeks after Verizon launches their device.
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Heard something similar but not that extreme.
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this is all i need to hear
im gonna be selling my htc one pretty soon and go unlocked

man remember when the EVO was the first non-stock android phone to get 2.2? that **** was awesome.

If it's true(and we will never know 100%)..Selling update exclusives? If it's true then to hell with HTC's broke ass..Hope they go under.It's just a phone and it's just a pointless update.But it's the principal.This phone has been out for 4 months now and the latest update did nothing for what matters most(radio)..Screw Sprint and screw HTC...
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What does that mean?
Holy friggin crap.
You mean the carriers haven't even tested the 4.2 update yet?
Wtf
I severely doubt that's true. Why the hell would a carrier pay to stop other carriers from just not get an update to a phone they already have? Its not like the average person is going to think "Oh, Verizon got the HTC One 4.2.2 update first, so it must be the best network."
Nobody thinks about the software version while buying a new phone. It is pretty much implied that if you buy a new flagship that it will be updated soon.
And I'm pretty sure the Dev edition (American) would have gotten the update by now if this were the case. Because if Verizon is able to stop HTC from updating its undbranded phones, then either Verizon has WAY to much money, not to mention screwed up priorities, or HTC is a greedy a$$ cheapskate.

Most reps, no matter what company they represent........... repeat rumors they hear from others. Time and time again their words are proven wrong way more often then correct, especially when it come to release info. Lets hope this is the case.
My 2 cents is all!!
And Verizon paid HTC for 4.2 I dont know how all this works but since when does HTC own 4.2 ?. Google get a cut? Sounds hoakie to me.

flex360 said:
this is all i need to hear
im gonna be selling my htc one pretty soon and go unlocked
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My thoughts exactly bro... My ass will be on T-Mobile with s-off super cid very soon behind this bs
BrianBaker said:
If it's true(and we will never know 100%)..Selling update exclusives? If it's true then to hell with HTC's broke ass..Hope they go under.It's just a phone and it's just a pointless update.But it's the principal.This phone has been out for 4 months now and the latest update did nothing for what matters most(radio)..Screw Sprint and screw HTC...
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exactly bro..WTF is wrong with the bs politics in the damn us. How do you expect the phone to succeed when you bend over backwards every time
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Most reps, no matter what company they represent........... repeat rumors they hear from others. Time and time again their words are proven wrong way more often then correct, especially when it come to release info. Lets hope this is the case.
My 2 cents is all!!
And Verizon paid HTC for 4.2 I dont know how all this works but since when does HTC own 4.2 ?. Google get a cut? Sounds hoakie to me.
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You're all reacting to, and judging HTC for, a random rumor you heard on a forum from a guy who met a lady who works at HTC (not in the update department) and said "..."

Let's be honest tho, the only perfect HTC device I've noticed was OG EVO. Every other iteration has had a serious issue.
Evo3d: gimmicky camera, bloated slick laggy sense, updates damn neat Non existent! Got murdered by GS2 & EOL in just over a year or before I think.
LTEVO: Ugly plastic back (i liked the design, sense 4 kinda lagged (i liked 4), RADIO FIASCO (worse ever to my knowledge), updates were decent speed tho, & wallpaper bug.
One X: Small ass battery, yellow tint issue, overheating, sorry ass tegra 3, many faulty devices
HTC 1: Gorgeous design, best screen, purple tint camera issue, claims of radio problems (i can't verify), shipped on dated os, 4up camera gimmick.
Personally, I don't think the camera is all that good. I have the people tint issue, & low light pics always blur for me or be mega noised.
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this is HTC's track record....great phones, lousy support.....still luv em though!

O.M.J said:
this is HTC's track record....great phones, lousy support.....still luv em though!
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Are you getting the next HTC? I may go back to Samsung or even get nexus
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See, I wouldn't care so much if we were stuck on 4.2.2 or something. But 4.1.2.....

I wouldn't be surprised if it were true since htc is hard up for money.
I would point out the one thing we are missing from 4.2.2 that we don't have on 4.1.2 but then it would just get ignored
/beatingdeadhorse
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XaoSilentrzk said:
One X: Small ass battery, yellow tint issue, overheating, sorry ass tegra 3, many faulty devices
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Sprint One X did not have a Tegra 3. We've covered this before.

raptoro07 said:
Sprint One X did not have a Tegra 3. We've covered this before.
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You mean at&t?
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raptoro07 said:
Sprint One X did not have a Tegra 3. We've covered this before.
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Insert One X+ comment because I recognize you from the other forum so funny and yeah....

raptoro07 said:
Sprint One X did not have a Tegra 3. We've covered this before.
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I mentioned devices I OWNED dude... I know which is which between LTEVO and One X. Idk why you tried to point that out
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What OS the Galaxy Nexus run? Probably 4.2.
I might get a Moto next time since it is owned by Google, and they might (I hope) concentrate their phones. Not release 10 phones a month. Just a couple a year. And support them. And make them good.
And it seems that only Google is interested in ending the spec war.

I just don't get the thinking behind this. Is this really an exclusive that people in general are going to be impressed by? I can see the ad now... "Introducing the HTC One, now finally available on Verizon with the NEWEST, er... SECOND NEWEST version of Android!"