Just when you thought not having 4.2.2 was lemon juice on the slow update scars... You get this great present from HTC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44410651
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Just when you thought not having 4.2.2 was lemon juice on the slow update scars... You get this great present from HTC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44410651
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Don't worry, in the US the One X people will have to wait 6 months for the update you linked. Surely by then the US carriers will have released the 4.2.2 update for the HTC One. Surely!
Well, it's supposed to be in Sprint's hands right now. Problem is, they say it's up to HTC. You know how the story goes. It'll get here when it gets here. Sprint will probably update the EVOLTE before the One.
That's Taiwan. We can only use that as a reference point, nothing else.
But I think this is just getting friggin ridiculous. Maybe there's a serious bug in the update like battery drain and only the US carriers are caring enough to resolve it with HTC?
Lets be honest here... There is a reason Samsung is WINNING! How far can build quality and sense get you when post support sucks ass. Flagships are being killed off by HTC after a year while Samsung updates OG EVO status devices. The GS2 shares the same OS as us for gods sake... This is ridiculous.
I've always been one to steer people away from the plastic GS devices, but you can't deny they are future proof in getting them. I'll have to definitely wait on next year's flags instead of dumping money day 1 like I've done the last 2 years.
And for the fanboys that say... Leave the one... No I will not. I'm NOT saying it's not the best device, but you can't deny post support sucks on our end.
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Silentrx relax man its not a big update. 4.1 is smooth on this phone. The One is still tits, no problems with this phone, just getting used to sense 5 initially
Again tho for updates you need to be on a GSM carrier and have an unlocked Nex
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Everyone always forgets that Samsung is pretty bad with updates also.
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Everyone always forgets that Samsung is pretty bad with updates also.
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They've made GREAT progress in fixing this issue though while HTC continues to fall behind in the U.S.
XaoSilentrzk said:
Lets be honest here... There is a reason Samsung is WINNING! How far can build quality and sense get you when post support sucks ass. Flagships are being killed off by HTC after a year while Samsung updates OG EVO status devices. The GS2 shares the same OS as us for gods sake... This is ridiculous.
I've always been one to steer people away from the plastic GS devices, but you can't deny they are future proof in getting them. I'll have to definitely wait on next year's flags instead of dumping money day 1 like I've done the last 2 years.
And for the fanboys that say... Leave the one... No I will not. I'm NOT saying it's not the best device, but you can't deny post support sucks on our end.
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Well, if we're being honest. There is a reason Samsung is winning, and it's called marketing. It most certainly is NOT because HTC phones are slow getting such minor updates like 4.2. Most people don't know anything about it, and it's not even close. The only ones who really care that much are the people on XDA who root and run custom roms, and we are the minority by a HUGE margin.
Honestly, it's even smaller than that, because some of us who root and run custom roms could still care less about this update. It brings next to nothing for a lot of us. Kernel and the ability to run 4.2 roms will be fun...but not that many people care all that much. We all know how annoying it is, it does suck..but it's definitely not the reason why Samsung is winning lol
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Silentrx relax man its not a big update. 4.1 is smooth on this phone. The One is still tits, no problems with this phone, just getting used to sense 5 initially
Again tho for updates you need to be on a GSM carrier and have an unlocked Nex
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Nope... Don't need nexus because AOSP is boring as Hell. It doesn't even have facebook integration for gods sake. As a matter of fact sir... I have something for you... Check inbox immediately please!
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Well, if we're being honest. There is a reason Samsung is winning, and it's called marketing. It most certainly is NOT because HTC phones are slow getting such minor updates like 4.2. Most people don't know anything about it, and it's not even close. The only ones who really care that much are the people on XDA who root and run custom roms, and we are the minority by a HUGE margin.
Honestly, it's even smaller than that, because some of us who root and run custom roms could still care less about this update. It brings next to nothing for a lot of us. Kernel and the ability to run 4.2 roms will be fun...but not that many people care all that much. We all know how annoying it is, it does suck..but it's definitely not the reason why Samsung is winning lol
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I mostly agree. Remember when people used to call whatever android phone a Droid? Now they say galaxy, even if it's not a Samsung phone. They certainly did something right with the brand name.
Hopefully htc will stick with the One moniker and recover lost customers
It is kinda nice to be the only one among all my friends to have a One while all my Galaxy friends envy my One and say they should have got that instead
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^^^^^ same for me. Got my gf an s4 since she's on verizon and she hates it. Shes always using my one
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Am I the only one not seeing a problem here? HTC is updating a phone that's a year old with the 2nd latest OS version. If anything I would say we should be excited about this.
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Am I the only one not seeing a problem here? HTC is updating a phone that's a year old with the 2nd latest OS version. If anything I would say we should be excited about this.
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Excited about what? The One X deserved the update without a doubt... They should have done this without even thinking. Problem I have is... Not even the DEV edition HTC one which is unbranded sold directly from HTC is still on outdated OS regardless of how minor the update is. If the update is so minor... Why do we not have it? Why does the DEV edition NOT have it officially? It makes no sense that this phone was release 4-5 months ago international and they just not got the update. Ours was released 3 months ago and no update in sight. Call it what you want, but I dare you say POST SUPPORT from HTC is better than POST SUPPORT from Samsung?
NO I'M NOT GOING TO CRAPWIZ so please don't make this cool story useless replying that
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Excited about what? The One X deserved the update without a doubt... They should have done this without even thinking. Problem I have is... Not even the DEV edition HTC one which is unbranded sold directly from HTC is still on outdated OS regardless of how minor the update is. If the update is so minor... Why do we not have it? Why does the DEV edition NOT have it officially? It makes no sense that this phone was release 4-5 months ago international and they just not got the update. Ours was released 3 months ago and no update in sight. Call it what you want, but I dare you say POST SUPPORT from HTC is better than POST SUPPORT from Samsung?
NO I'M NOT GOING TO CRAPWIZ so please don't make this cool story useless replying that
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Sprint is holding it up at this point, not htc. I'm pretty sure tho that Sprint is forcing htc to make some signal improvements, since a lot of people complain the S4/3 has it better due to the plastic body.
No source, just my thoughts. No other imaginable reason why we haven't gotten the update
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Sprint is holding it up at this point, not htc. I'm pretty sure tho that Sprint is forcing htc to make some signal improvements, since a lot of people complain the S4/3 has it better due to the plastic body.
No source, just my thoughts. No other imaginable reason why we haven't gotten the update
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Hasn't that been the trend the last 2 HTC phones? The evo lte has terrible radios
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What I have been thinking is once Verzion starts selling the HTC One, which comes with 4.2.2, then u.s. carriers will be like oh I guess we can update now haha that's what I'm thinking.. but even of they don't, I've herd that since Verizon is CDMA, we will be able to port it fairly easy!
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What I have been thinking is once Verzion starts selling the HTC One, which comes with 4.2.2, then u.s. carriers will be like oh I guess we can update now haha that's what I'm thinking.. but even of they don't, I've herd that since Verizon is CDMA, we will be able to port it fairly easy!
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This could be close. Verizion usually wants something "exclusive" when it comes to the phones they carry. They may be the only US carrier with 4.2.2 for a limited time through a deal with HTC.
Unrelated note, why do people think sprint has the update already?
Since HTC doesn't seem to know how to update my phone and I obviously don't know how to enjoy it, I'm probably just gonna kill myself. What's the point of life if Satan, sorry - HTC, can't provide a menial software update?
Exactly, no point to life without 4.2. I NEED IT NOW.
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Hey guys, just wondering what your opinion is on how this locked bootloader issue has affected the potential development of this phone. How bad do you think it really is? Countless people have returned their phones. I'm sure many potential devs have strayed from this phone or HTC as a whole due to this issue. This is a damn good phone as stock, who knows how much better it could be if it were unlocked from the start. What do you guys think the development will be like once it does get unlocked?
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Hey guys, just wondering what your opinion is on how this locked bootloader issue has affected the potential development of this phone. How bad do you think it really is? Countless people have returned their phones. I'm sure many potential devs have strayed from this phone or HTC as a whole due to this issue. This is a damn good phone as stock, who knows how much better it could be if it were unlocked from the start. What do you guys think the development will be like once it does get unlocked?
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I've gotta think it'll pick up. The Inspire was the only "4G" HTC phone for a long time so I can't imagine HTC coming out with anything new on ATT for a little while at least so I gotta think if things do get rolling people will come.
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I've gotta think it'll pick up. The Inspire was the only "4G" HTC phone for a long time so I can't imagine HTC coming out with anything new on ATT for a little while at least so I gotta think if things do get rolling people will come.
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I sure hope so, but it is depressing to think how many people we have already lost and how much potential devlopment is lost. I'm not sure how big of a factor LTE is to people though, considering it isn't widely available. Not sure when the next AT&T HTC phone will be coming out, but locked bootloader or not, this thing is a beast and is getting ICS. I really don't see a better AT&T phone out right now. Samsung Touchwiz is boring, and so is the Samsung development. There's just so much more devs can do with sense.
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I sure hope so, but it is depressing to think how many people we have already lost and how much potential devlopment is lost. I'm not sure how big of a factor LTE is to people though, considering it isn't widely available. Not sure when the next AT&T HTC phone will be coming out, but locked bootloader or not, this thing is a beast and is getting ICS. I really don't see a better AT&T phone out right now. Samsung Touchwiz is boring, and so is the Samsung development. There's just so much more devs can do with sense.
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I'm kicking myself because I keep telling myself I'm just going to pay full retail and get international devices. I may still look for an Evo 3D or something, but although I'm in a non LTE area I can't wait for it to arrive.
I'll stick with this device and learn to develope for it should the day ever arrive. I'm sure if we ever get root, more devs will migrate. It is a truly capable device and a huge step from my tp2.
it will pick up some if the BL ever gets unlocked.
It really is sad that htc/att are dragging their feet on this. They are losing customers every day, I'm returning mine tomorrow. I really like the vivid but am a flashaholic. I have an amaze also and it doesn't really have much dev attention. I don't really understand why, it's also a great device. I honestly would probably be keeping my vivid if I didn't have the amaze, I'm a fan of the sense ui. I'll be giving the nitro a test for the next 30 days, it should be easy to root with super one click but as with most att devices it will probably take 3 weeks or so just to get a forum for it since it's not a Samsung device.
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donharden2002 said:
It really is sad that htc/att are dragging their feet on this. They are losing customers every day, I'm returning mine tomorrow. I really like the vivid but am a flashaholic. I have an amaze also and it doesn't really have much dev attention. I don't really understand why, it's also a great device. I honestly would probably be keeping my vivid if I didn't have the amaze, I'm a fan of the sense ui. I'll be giving the nitro a test for the next 30 days, it should be easy to root with super one click but as with most att devices it will probably take 3 weeks or so just to get a forum for it since it's not a Samsung device.
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Could you return the Vivid, get another phone, and then return that phone and get a Vivid again? I'm just curious on how AT&T's return/exchange works. Is there a limit of some sort?
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Could you return the Vivid, get another phone, and then return that phone and get a Vivid again? I'm just curious on how AT&T's return/exchange works. Is there a limit of some sort?
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I'm considering this... But it won't be until tomorrow fir me, no time to spend in the AT&T store today.
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I'm considering this... But it won't be until tomorrow fir me, no time to spend in the AT&T store today.
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Yea, that's what I would probably do if I didn't buy my phone off-contract. Who knows when the next HTC phone on AT&T will come out. The last high end one was the Inspire and that was months and months ago. I think it'll be tough for these people that have always been with HTC to just switch and stay with another brand for a long period of time. Samsung UI is so boring it's not even funny.
Hmm right now I have a Samsung Captivate and I'm either going to the HTC Vivid or SGS2 and right now it seems like the Vivid is not the best option.
I flash ROMs weekly on my Captivate. I guess I was still ignorant and didn't know about HTC's decision to not keep the bootloader so open, like they promised.
Looks like the Samsung SGS2 is the better route...
I picked up a skyrocket because of the locked bootloader but as soon as its unlocked ill trade it for a vivid no doubt. HTC is good with making phones
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In the development section seems root will come soon. Now the question is who.is stil planning on returning the vivid? I have till Monday I bought it a launch. I'm still debating especially with root seemingly coming in some time now from what's been said in think tank in development section.
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blopez24 said:
In the development section seems root will come soon. Now the question is who.is stil planning on returning the vivid? I have till Monday I bought it a launch. I'm still debating especially with root seemingly coming in some time now from what's been said in think tank in development section.
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Not sure how soon it will come, but it's nice to know someone is working on it at this point. I've always favored root rhough XDA as oppose to through HTC.
I think I'm keeping mine. I don't like any of the other phones. Not a fan of Samsung. This phone will be awesome when it is cracked.
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keeping mine. stock its not bad, and rooted will be epic! i'd consider the SG2, but for $100 more, it doesnt seem like the right deal... loving the vivid!
Mines going back tomorrow for the nitro, I won't miss it too much since I also have an amaze 4g. The wife doesn't understand why I need 2 hi end phones but what she doesn't realize is that come march I'll have 3 and in July I'll be adding another. If the vivid gets perm root and unlocked with s-off I'll probably get another one. I love the phone and the screen is one of the prettiest out there in my opinion. Hopefully it won't take long to get things moving on it, if htc doesn't keep their promise the amaze might be my last htc device unless if they were to bring a rezound to att, if that happened I'd be like a kid at Christmas.
Best of luck to those keeping it, it really is a great phone but I see the word HD in a device name and I start slobbering all over myself.
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Already returned mine, still with HTC though. I just couldn't do the Samsung.
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i returned mine... i now have the gs2 1777. i love that phone. when i got the vivid, i wasnt really liking it but i learned to like it... but the gs2 i loved almost instantly. really glad i switched
I'm Keeping Mine
It does what I need - phone calls, texting, web access, running apps I've installed. Except for a couple of random reboots (none recently) and one system freeze (pulled the battery) over 30 days, I've had no real problems. It's fast when I have a good data connection, and I don't think it's the phone's fault when I don't. I did give AT&T a list of issues for their survey, but overall, I'm satisfied.
As for the Carrier IQ issue, any phone I get from AT&T (except for possibly the iPhone 4S) will have CIQ software on it. Rooting, when available, may not be totally stable yet for any of the new LTE phones. The best solution for me is to keep my communications plain vanilla, which I do any way, so there's nothing that I need to be worried about. I do want to CIQ stuff off my phone if and when there is a safe way to do it.
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As for the Carrier IQ issue, any phone I get from AT&T (except for possibly the iPhone 4S) will have CIQ software on it. Rooting, when available, may not be totally stable yet for any of the new LTE phones. The best solution for me is to keep my communications plain vanilla, which I do any way, so there's nothing that I need to be worried about. I do want to CIQ stuff off my phone if and when there is a safe way to do it.
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the SGHi777 aka the Galaxy S 2, does not contain CIQ
as for rooting LTE phones, i guess you havent seen the GS2 Skyrocket forums? its rooted and has custom roms.
I have 211 confirmed receipts so far from those were lied to and are joining the class action suit.
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Oh well, I'm keeping mine. I really like the phone and tbh I'll get another one in about a year, so I think I can live with it till then.
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Is there any update on XDA for rooting the Vivid?!
akcooper9 said:
is there any update on xda for rooting the vivid?!
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do you see any?!
Pirateghost said:
do you see any?!
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Busted! You are. Just wishful asking.
akcooper9 said:
Is there any update on XDA for rooting the Vivid?!
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Our own Gsleon has been talking with Evil_Devnull a little bit. Evil is working on rooting the HTC Rezound (which is nearly identical to the Vivid). So as of now, keep on the lookout for the progress with the Rezound root, because that could very well translate to when/how we Vivid owners get root.
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i returned mine... i now have the gs2 1777. i love that phone. when i got the vivid, i wasnt really liking it but i learned to like it... but the gs2 i loved almost instantly. really glad i switched
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You made a good choice. I owned gs2 earlier, switched to vivid, and had to come back to GS2. I wanted to Love vivid but HTC/Att who ever locks the boot loader shattered my plans. Well, I'm happy to be back to GS2.
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Went in to return the vivid tonight...
I didn't.
Quite simply, there is no viable alternative.
The skyrockets screen is horrendous and build quality is scary.
The nitro has the most beautiful screen I have ever seen but it is so laggy, unresponsive and jittery it feels like am entry level Android device, plus even with an unlocked bootloader devs hate LG so who knows what roms will ever come out for it.
So I sit... And pray someone crack this thing.
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ClippinWings said:
Went in to return the vivid tonight...
I didn't.
Quite simply, there is no viable alternative.
The skyrockets screen is horrendous and build quality is scary.
The nitro has the most beautiful screen I have ever seen but it is so laggy, unresponsive and jittery it feels like am entry level Android device, plus even with an unlocked bootloader devs hate LG so who knows what roms will ever come out for it.
So I sit... And pray someone crack this thing.
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Finally... someone talks some sense. LG development is/has always been a joke. Samsung development consists of TouchWiz and AOSP Rom's (is there even a difference between the two?). I guess I can see all the people pissy about being lied to from HTC, but I don't see another option right now. Samsung phones are boring. I'm waiting for Evil and Gsleon.
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Finally... someone talks some sense. LG development is/has always been a joke. Samsung development consists of TouchWiz and AOSP Rom's (is there even a difference between the two?). I guess I can see all the people pissy about being lied to from HTC, but I don't see another option right now. Samsung phones are boring. I'm waiting for Evil and Gsleon.
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I'm going to stick it out as well and hope that these guys come through which I'm pretty sure they will. Don't get me wrong as I'm pissed off as well. But it'll give me satisfaction when we "stick it to he man".
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really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
finalhit said:
really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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Htc updates about as good as anyone else.
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finalhit said:
really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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According to this article (and others like it I could not find right away) the reputation you speak of for HTC is not true. In terms up updating thier phones, HTC is the best of the major OEMs. Get a ONE!
... not to mention this is the first time (or first time in a while) we've seen them drop the same phone on many carriers, and tout a phone as their flagship for the year.
I feel like they'll be behind making this thing the best they can make it this year.
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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Not to mention that Samsung only really updates their flagships and not the lower end phones. I just came over to One from an S3.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Indeed, with the One I think we're going to see big things for HTC over the next year. A unified phone being the biggest contributor to their increase sales. They did what the GS3 did originally but stepped up their game with a modern phone with modern specs. Competition is good for the two, it will make everyone else reach harder to stay on par and they'll compete for who has the better phone. I think when 5.0 is dropped most likely next month, both manufactures will be rushing to get it out, we can only hope that the carriers don't drop the ball.
I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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GS4 already comes with it
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H4rryTipp3r said:
GS4 already comes with it
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Then what are you doing here?
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Then what are you doing here?
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As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I know, was just poking some fun. I've had a Samsung Moment, LG Optimus One, then an HTC Evo 3D all on Sprint. I also follow smartphones/tablets and new technology in general daily (actually, part of my job sort of). What I've seen is Samsung sucked at updates until that had success with the Galaxy series, even the early Galaxy's were slow to get updates. The LG phones were lucky to get anything at all. HTC updated pretty well recently, except in the US. International HTC devices got updates pretty quickly and regularly, but Sprint was slow to do so. Sprint seems to have been slow about this in general just like every other carrier here in the US. Although, the Evo 3D was extremely late (almost a year later) to the ICS party. This update was promised to us pretty early and it started to feel like we'd never get it by the time it released. Then Sprint held it for testing I assume for a few more months. The Evo 3D users were suspecting Sprint was holding onto the ICS update to encourage people to buy their Boost Mobile variant of the phone as it released with ICS, was the same exact phone with a different name, and was supposed to attract people to Boost. Not sure if this is the real reason, it was a month or two after that phone launched the rest of us got ICS.
In either case, HTC wasn't bad about it, they weren't great but they weren't bad. Sprint, on the other hand, seems to have been slow and I know there are a number of reasons for this. They need to test everything before they launch it. Does it work on their network properly and with their bloatware? They have to prioritize their devices to test and they have to be thorough to ensure they aren't liable for anything going wrong. It's a crappy system, but thats how it is.
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GS4 already comes with it
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And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
I don't like holding this phone, and I can't overstate how much that informs the experience of using it. It makes an awful first impression, slippery and slimy and simply unpleasant in your hand. My white review unit is completely smooth and glossy, with a subtle checkered pattern that looks textured but is neither grippy nor textured anywhere on its body. Even the silver band around the sides, which is obviously supposed to look like metal, is plastic. Everyone I showed the GS4 to frowned and wrinkled their nose as if it smelled bad, before rubbing their fingers on the back of the phone and then handing it back to me — that's the opposite of the standard reaction to HTC’s One, which everyone wants to ogle and hold. That's going to be a huge problem for Samsung, because the GS4 and One are likely to be next to each other on store shelves, and at least on first impression there's absolutely no contest between the two.
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The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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Hmmm Evo LTE came out June, was updated December. 6 months, only 2 months after Sprint released the update for the SG3. Sounds like its not HTC or Samsung but the carrier who is the culprit.
Now lets see. All the GS3's outside the US got upgraded to 4.1.2 in december. Has the GS3 been updated in the US yet? Nope, has it recieved the new samsung premium suite package that everyone else with the GS3 recieved? Nope. Hmmmmm....
If you actually looked at the link posted above, you can clearly see that there isn't much of a difference between Samsung and HTC as far as timely updates.
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And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
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I honestly don't care about what it's made of as long as it looks good, and performs good I'm fine. I am more of a specs and software kind of person. Although the one does have me pretty intrigued because I've never had a phone built as so, and I listen to music and watch a lot of videos so I know those speakers will come in handy. I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4. The only reason I'm hesitant is because I'm not a big fan of sense... nor am I a big fan of all the stuff you have to do to root the thing. Compared to Samsung phones, it's way more difficult.
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I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4.
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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If you want that, why not get the note 2? It's going to get a lot of the S4 features, and I wouldn't go with LG. The Optimus G has been out less then a year, and had 1 update and is already EOL.
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HTC rep came by today. I asked her about the 4.2.2 update and she said sprint and att wont get the update till after Verizon releases the HTC one. Verizon paid HTC for 4.2 on launch for their release exclusively. She also stated that because of Verizon's deal the other 2 carriers won't be getting the update to test till after the Verizon release. She says from what they've told her in the mettings sprint won't have the ota ready till 6-8 weeks after Verizon launches their device.
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HTC rep came by today. I asked her about the 4.2.2 update and she said sprint and att wont get the update till after Verizon releases the HTC one. Verizon paid HTC for 4.2 on launch for their release exclusively. She also stated that because of Verizon's deal the other 2 carriers won't be getting the update to test till after the Verizon release. She says from what they've told her in the mettings sprint won't have the ota ready till 6-8 weeks after Verizon launches their device.
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Heard something similar but not that extreme.
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this is all i need to hear
im gonna be selling my htc one pretty soon and go unlocked
man remember when the EVO was the first non-stock android phone to get 2.2? that **** was awesome.
If it's true(and we will never know 100%)..Selling update exclusives? If it's true then to hell with HTC's broke ass..Hope they go under.It's just a phone and it's just a pointless update.But it's the principal.This phone has been out for 4 months now and the latest update did nothing for what matters most(radio)..Screw Sprint and screw HTC...
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What does that mean?
Holy friggin crap.
You mean the carriers haven't even tested the 4.2 update yet?
Wtf
I severely doubt that's true. Why the hell would a carrier pay to stop other carriers from just not get an update to a phone they already have? Its not like the average person is going to think "Oh, Verizon got the HTC One 4.2.2 update first, so it must be the best network."
Nobody thinks about the software version while buying a new phone. It is pretty much implied that if you buy a new flagship that it will be updated soon.
And I'm pretty sure the Dev edition (American) would have gotten the update by now if this were the case. Because if Verizon is able to stop HTC from updating its undbranded phones, then either Verizon has WAY to much money, not to mention screwed up priorities, or HTC is a greedy a$$ cheapskate.
Most reps, no matter what company they represent........... repeat rumors they hear from others. Time and time again their words are proven wrong way more often then correct, especially when it come to release info. Lets hope this is the case.
My 2 cents is all!!
And Verizon paid HTC for 4.2 I dont know how all this works but since when does HTC own 4.2 ?. Google get a cut? Sounds hoakie to me.
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this is all i need to hear
im gonna be selling my htc one pretty soon and go unlocked
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My thoughts exactly bro... My ass will be on T-Mobile with s-off super cid very soon behind this bs
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If it's true(and we will never know 100%)..Selling update exclusives? If it's true then to hell with HTC's broke ass..Hope they go under.It's just a phone and it's just a pointless update.But it's the principal.This phone has been out for 4 months now and the latest update did nothing for what matters most(radio)..Screw Sprint and screw HTC...
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exactly bro..WTF is wrong with the bs politics in the damn us. How do you expect the phone to succeed when you bend over backwards every time
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Most reps, no matter what company they represent........... repeat rumors they hear from others. Time and time again their words are proven wrong way more often then correct, especially when it come to release info. Lets hope this is the case.
My 2 cents is all!!
And Verizon paid HTC for 4.2 I dont know how all this works but since when does HTC own 4.2 ?. Google get a cut? Sounds hoakie to me.
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You're all reacting to, and judging HTC for, a random rumor you heard on a forum from a guy who met a lady who works at HTC (not in the update department) and said "..."
Let's be honest tho, the only perfect HTC device I've noticed was OG EVO. Every other iteration has had a serious issue.
Evo3d: gimmicky camera, bloated slick laggy sense, updates damn neat Non existent! Got murdered by GS2 & EOL in just over a year or before I think.
LTEVO: Ugly plastic back (i liked the design, sense 4 kinda lagged (i liked 4), RADIO FIASCO (worse ever to my knowledge), updates were decent speed tho, & wallpaper bug.
One X: Small ass battery, yellow tint issue, overheating, sorry ass tegra 3, many faulty devices
HTC 1: Gorgeous design, best screen, purple tint camera issue, claims of radio problems (i can't verify), shipped on dated os, 4up camera gimmick.
Personally, I don't think the camera is all that good. I have the people tint issue, & low light pics always blur for me or be mega noised.
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this is HTC's track record....great phones, lousy support.....still luv em though!
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this is HTC's track record....great phones, lousy support.....still luv em though!
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Are you getting the next HTC? I may go back to Samsung or even get nexus
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See, I wouldn't care so much if we were stuck on 4.2.2 or something. But 4.1.2.....
I wouldn't be surprised if it were true since htc is hard up for money.
I would point out the one thing we are missing from 4.2.2 that we don't have on 4.1.2 but then it would just get ignored
/beatingdeadhorse
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One X: Small ass battery, yellow tint issue, overheating, sorry ass tegra 3, many faulty devices
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Sprint One X did not have a Tegra 3. We've covered this before.
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Sprint One X did not have a Tegra 3. We've covered this before.
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You mean at&t?
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raptoro07 said:
Sprint One X did not have a Tegra 3. We've covered this before.
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Insert One X+ comment because I recognize you from the other forum so funny and yeah....
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Sprint One X did not have a Tegra 3. We've covered this before.
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I mentioned devices I OWNED dude... I know which is which between LTEVO and One X. Idk why you tried to point that out
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What OS the Galaxy Nexus run? Probably 4.2.
I might get a Moto next time since it is owned by Google, and they might (I hope) concentrate their phones. Not release 10 phones a month. Just a couple a year. And support them. And make them good.
And it seems that only Google is interested in ending the spec war.
I just don't get the thinking behind this. Is this really an exclusive that people in general are going to be impressed by? I can see the ad now... "Introducing the HTC One, now finally available on Verizon with the NEWEST, er... SECOND NEWEST version of Android!"
The US carrier variants will not be receiving the 4.3 update this month. While they haven't confirmed that it won't be receiving it this month, they said that ONLY THE DEVELOPER EDITION would be getting it this week.
http://phandroid.com/2013/09/23/android-43-htc-one-developer-edition/
What do you guys think?
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syed239 said:
The US carrier variants will not be receiving the 4.3 update this month. While they haven't confirmed that it won't be receiving it this month, they said that ONLY THE DEVELOPER EDITION would be getting it this week.
http://phandroid.com/2013/09/23/android-43-htc-one-developer-edition/
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I think they September fooled us they should of said that in the first place instead of getting people excited for 4.3 for this month. Guess we have to wait till the end of the year or probably next year lost hope for updates on this phone no 4.2 and probably not 4.3 either once 4.4 is released they would want to skip 4.3 a go for 4.4 who knows hahaa... this is just funny in my opinion :laugh:
I kinda figured it out that we weren't getting it because of the Max being released with it and it's bad marketing strategy to give it to an older phone at the same time. I'm estimating three months at least, sad to say. :'(
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Check out @jasonmacHTC's Tweet: https://twitter.com/JasonMacHTC/status/382228249151287296
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One mans opinion here. Bottom line, HTC and Sprint dont like us here at XDA. We take what they release and make it better and it pi$$es them off because it nakes em look bad.They know if they promise an update release that developement will slow down due to our devs waiting on that release. I dont think it has anythung to do with marketing strategies or anything else. The just hold back to keep us in limbo. Appreciate it or disguard it, its just my opinion.
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If you're going to announce an update, you best make damn sure you're releasing it on time. I can't believe I keep eating up this sh*t. Checking xda everyday... God, I wish I could use the next nexus on sprint...
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Quick crying people. I'm sure it will be here soon. Not next year, not 3 months lol
Why is it one of the most popular flagship devices is so far behind others and dated phones for updates in the U. S.
You can try and blame it on sprint but as it stands it's all carriers in US so I say the blame goes to HTC for dragging feet. Kitkat will be out before we see 4.3, great way to go on a flagship device HTC
On a flagship one would think they wouldn't skip other updates like 4.2, which would have made the transition to 4.3 seem less timely.
I hate it when company's announce releases and can't make the date, why announce if you know chances are slim? HTC can suck it!!!!
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Quick crying people. I'm sure it will be here soon. Not next year, not 3 months lol
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I'll go ahead and say that since they fooled us with "by the end of September" and then clarified on which version of the phone they were releasing it on, we probably won't see it until end of November, possibly December.
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Quick crying people. I'm sure it will be here soon. Not next year, not 3 months lol
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Ya it's odd people are pissed when they spend 700 on of the most popular phones and it see an updates 6 months after release and the new Kitkat gets released before the flagship phone. Especially with phone technology when 6-12 months and the phone is almost outdated anyways lol.
It's not like they announced by September's end for all us carriers by end of September. Am sure some purchased the one based on that statement too.
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One mans opinion here. Bottom line, HTC and Sprint dont like us here at XDA. We take what they release and make it better and it pi$$es them off because it nakes em look bad.They know if they promise an update release that developement will slow down due to our devs waiting on that release. I dont think it has anythung to do with marketing strategies or anything else. The just hold back to keep us in limbo. Appreciate it or disguard it, its just my opinion.
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There's a little flaw in your reasoning though. The number of Sprint One owners on here deving or just unlocking and customizing thier phones is very small when compared to the number of GSM One users. They are worldwide. If HTC were so mad about the dev community then they would stick them without the update.
The number of people on XDA relative the number of people using phones is very small. Maybe 1% of total HTC One owners worldwide come onto XDA.
The total number of Ones sold worldwide is more than 5 million (as of May 2013). According to the XDA forum there are 2.5 million registered users on XDA and the most ever on at one time is just 95,000. That is people for all phone models. I always think it seems like everyone is flashing thier phone and playing around like me, but the reality is very few do it. Almost to the point that the OEMs don't pay a whole lot of attention to the dev community.
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Ya it's odd people are pissed when they spend 700 on of the most popular phones and it see an updates 6 months after release and the new Kitkat gets released before the flagship phone. Especially with phone technology when 6-12 months and the phone is almost outdated anyways lol.
It's not like they announced by September's end for all us carriers by end of September. Am sure some purchased the one based on that statement too.
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Nature is spot on with his statement. Granted, I have patience, and I understand that I will have to wait longer, but coming on Twitter and saying they're working on getting certifications from carriers to release this update before the end of September, then tell us at the end of September that a non carrier branded One is getting the update is pretty much a slap in the face. And if they're waiting for certifications from ALL of the carriers before releasing it, that's just dumb as well. They should've been working on this a long time ago. We're on 4.1.2, and 4.4 is going to be released before we get it. This pretty much means that we will once again have a phone that DOES NOT have the latest version of Android.
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There's a little flaw in your reasoning though. The number of Sprint One owners on here deving or just unlocking and customizing thier phones is very small when compared to the number of GSM One users. They are worldwide. If HTC were so mad about the dev community then they would stick them without the update.
The number of people on XDA relative the number of people using phones is very small. Maybe 1% of total HTC One owners worldwide come onto XDA.
The total number of Ones sold worldwide is more than 5 million (as of May 2013). According to the XDA forum there are 2.5 million registered users on XDA and the most ever on at one time is just 95,000. That is people for all phone models. I always think it seems like everyone is flashing thier phone and playing around like me, but the reality is very few do it. Almost to the point that the OEMs don't pay a whole lot of attention to the dev community.
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Thank you for the input on that, very valid points you made there. I wasnt just speaking for the 0ne tho, i was refering to the community as a whole. I should probably been more distinct about that. Thanks
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I already said fk it and installed latest cm 10.2 nightly I don't care anymore lol
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Lets just hope for a port from the DE HTC One.
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I think HTC has more pressing matters right now with the Nokia patent infringement lawsuit. They have struggled to gain market share, and this certainly won't help.
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Nature is spot on with his statement. Granted, I have patience, and I understand that I will have to wait longer, but coming on Twitter and saying they're working on getting certifications from carriers to release this update before the end of September, then tell us at the end of September that a non carrier branded One is getting the update is pretty much a slap in the face. And if they're waiting for certifications from ALL of the carriers before releasing it, that's just dumb as well. They should've been working on this a long time ago. We're on 4.1.2, and 4.4 is going to be released before we get it. This pretty much means that we will once again have a phone that DOES NOT have the latest version of Android.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45741479#post45741479
Irony. Basically calling someone a hypocrite for complaining about slow updates then assuming they would praise it once released, then turn around and complain about it yourself. You're awesome! :good::good:
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HTC may not give all everyone wants when they want it. I agree this sucks. I am as impatient as anyone. At least they don't make their phone turn off the camera if you unlock it like Sony does. Of all the major manufacturers isn't HTC the most liberal with their products? FYI ,some years ago I was told (in a phone conversation) by a VP of HTC that their engineers are on XDA every day. They know how we feel. Keep in mind that they sell phones not updates. They have to think with 5 million in sales the ONE will sell just like it is. Now they are making new models to sell. I saw the ONE on sale yesterday on Amazon for .01cent. Most people don't have an idea about software in their phones. Look at the idiots waiting in line all night for an I Phone when we know the ONE is a better phone. How many software updates does Apple put out in a year?
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Irony. Basically calling someone a hypocrite for complaining about slow updates then assuming they would praise it once released, then turn around and complain about it yourself. You're awesome! :good::good:
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I'm not complaining. I'm stating an opinion on the misleading statement. I have patience and can wait, that's not a problem. If you notice, the people who are really complaining are those who are saying "Well, this will be my last HTC device" or "Samsung, here I come." But as soon as they get the update, it's a 180. I'm staying with HTC regardless.
Im upset because the misleading statements that were made and because a HTC rep that comes in to work straight lied to my face. The phone is a amazing phone as is the update is just an extra I bought this phone as is and will continue to praise HTC for the good work they did but making empty promises won't get them ahead.
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