Is there ANYTHING I can do to make this device work in a sensible way?
I mean I find it deeply unsettling that I have yet to see anyone else complain about the huge design flaw this phone has.
That being, when I receive a call, the touch screen activates at the slightest touch. That doesn't make sense because I don't tie it to my wrist... I carry it in my pocket or my belt clip and even in my belt clip it presses random spots on the touch screen. I want it to not do that, first of all. In fact I don't want the phone to even turn on touch activation until I give it clearance to turn on, because otherwise it will stay there and randomly press buttons until I check my phone and realize someone called me an hour ago.
Because that's the thing—I need it on vibrate a vast majority of the time, I can't feel it vibrate but it'll open random programs or do random crap. I can always tell because whenever I decide to reach down and check my phone I feel it overheating, and I think, "Yup. Someone called me and I didn't hear or feel it vibrate." That's actually ridiculous. That's severely headache inducing at how completely backwards it is without the option to change it in settings. At least not that I've seen. As I've said, no one else is complaining about it... so what are you guys doing?
I'm sorry but as I said, this phone drives me nuts. I can't help but feel angry just by talking about it.
Actually you could either turn on the screen lock so that even if it turns on, it's locked and none of the buttons or screen touching will do anything, and the machine will turn itself off after a while.
Or,
you can install BSB tweaks and set it so that the phone doesn't turn on unless you tell it to.
Most of the time it's not the device, it's the user. Especially obvious when reading user reviews and most users claim features don't exist when in fact they never found them. Or phone is capable of certain things, but the user is not only unaware, they are angry the features are not there.
GET TO KNOW YOUR DEVICE or use available tweaks and information
use a loud ringtone, use vibrate, use a screenlock program... (S2U2 is excellent, but you may find it complex).
Or extend the phone ring time before it goes into voicemail (that's in phone settings I recall)
The phone is not perfect, but it can very easily be configured to avoid accidental answering or not noticing the call in the first place. That said, the standard options are not good...
To be fair, I'm not stupid, but I am pretty ignorant when it comes to stuff like this. Bear in mind I've been using an old flip phone for the majority of my life, and I've spent a good amount of time looking through my X1 for a setting that would make my phone work better. I've found nothing that would keep the touch screen off for incoming calls or texts, which genuinely irks me.
Yes I tried locking the phone for a while, but it's a pain getting a call and then not being able to answer in time because I notice it late, pull it out, and then have to unlock it to answer. Also, locking the phone didn't stop the touch screen from turning on and pressing random buttons... it was just that with it locked there were no buttons to press except the digit code and I might be right to guess that my phone would lock me out completely if I randomly hit the wrong buttons enough times. Also the backlight was draining the battery and it was overheating anyway. It didn't make a difference.
I also spent a generous amount of time on the internet looking for solutions, but as I've said, no one else seems to have had my problem, so I was certain I wouldn't find a solution until I asked for myself. Believe me, I wouldn't have posted anything here if I'd found one.
Anyway I'll try "tweaking" it as was suggested. Thanks for the help.
(Also bear in mind having to "tweak" a device DOES suggest it was badly designed in the first place, which was kind of my point. Paul C knows what I'm talkin' 'bout.)
Peace.
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To be fair, I'm not stupid, but I am pretty ignorant when it comes to stuff like this. Bear in mind I've been using an old flip phone for the majority of my life, and I've spent a good amount of time looking through my X1 for a setting that would make my phone work better. I've found nothing that would keep the touch screen off for incoming calls or texts, which genuinely irks me.
Yes I tried locking the phone for a while, but it's a pain getting a call and then not being able to answer in time because I notice it late, pull it out, and then have to unlock it to answer. Also, locking the phone didn't stop the touch screen from turning on and pressing random buttons... it was just that with it locked there were no buttons to press except the digit code and I might be right to guess that my phone would lock me out completely if I randomly hit the wrong buttons enough times. Also the backlight was draining the battery and it was overheating anyway. It didn't make a difference.
I also spent a generous amount of time on the internet looking for solutions, but as I've said, no one else seems to have had my problem, so I was certain I wouldn't find a solution until I asked for myself. Believe me, I wouldn't have posted anything here if I'd found one.
Anyway I'll try "tweaking" it as was suggested. Thanks for the help.
(Also bear in mind having to "tweak" a device DOES suggest it was badly designed in the first place, which was kind of my point. Paul C knows what I'm talkin' 'bout.)
Peace.
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First of all tweaking does not mean a phone was badly designed, tweaking or modding gives the option to add, remove, or change anything you want in your phone. With your logic every smart phone was badly design becuase everybody tweaks their phones. And what you are saying makes no freaking sense. How can you not answer a call when your phone is lock, the incoming call pops up on the screen? How is your phone turning on and pressing random buttons when it's locked lol? How about you give more info on what rom you are using becuase what your saying makes no dam sense.
Oh, come on, man. It was my first smart phone. If I wasn't giving it the benefit of the doubt that I COULD do something about my issues, I would've taken the phone back. Instead I posted here and asked, because I was fed up using the search function trying to figure out what I was doing.
With your logic every smart phone was badly design becuase everybody tweaks their phones.
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I'm sure most people don't tweak their phone to fix rudimentary issues that cripple the usability of the phone.
Don't get me wrong, I'm GLAD my issue can be fixed, and thank you. I'm just saying. I didn't know, and the result of not being able to figure it out was me being upset with the device.
Do you want to continue this pointless argument or can we just drop it now?
How can you not answer a call when your phone is lock, the incoming call pops up on the screen? How is your phone turning on and pressing random buttons when it's locked lol?
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The screen turns on regardless of whether or not it's locked. It rings, and the screen turns on, but instead of allowing you to answer right away, it prompts you for the pin to unlock it. So I CAN answer a call, just sometimes not fast enough because of factors I already specified.
And if I'm not aware I'm being called, when I miss the call the screen stays on in my belt clip, and every time the screen is touched, the backlight remains on. Since it keeps being touched, it never shuts off. And the only buttons on the screen are the pinpad numbers, so it just hits those instead. This is how I got the phone.
So, since whether I lock it or not I get the same annoyances, I choose not to lock it.
Also I have yet to find a tweak that keeps the phone's touch response off for receiving calls, and turns off the screen entirely when or if the call is missed. I would really benefit from something like that to prevent it opening random programs or texting landlines with "aufgfdjkw"...
I'll keep looking.
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Oh, come on, man. It was my first smart phone. If I wasn't giving it the benefit of the doubt that I COULD do something about my issues, I would've taken the phone back. Instead I posted here and asked, because I was fed up using the search function trying to figure out what I was doing.
I'm sure most people don't tweak their phone to fix rudimentary issues that cripple the usability of the phone.
Don't get me wrong, I'm GLAD my issue can be fixed, and thank you. I'm just saying. I didn't know, and the result of not being able to figure it out was me being upset with the device.
Do you want to continue this pointless argument or can we just drop it now?
The screen turns on regardless of whether or not it's locked. It rings, and the screen turns on, but instead of allowing you to answer right away, it prompts you for the pin to unlock it. So I CAN answer a call, just sometimes not fast enough because of factors I already specified.
And if I'm not aware I'm being called, when I miss the call the screen stays on in my belt clip, and every time the screen is touched, the backlight remains on. Since it keeps being touched, it never shuts off. And the only buttons on the screen are the pinpad numbers, so it just hits those instead. This is how I got the phone.
So, since whether I lock it or not I get the same annoyances, I choose not to lock it.
Also I have yet to find a tweak that keeps the phone's touch response off for receiving calls, and turns off the screen entirely when or if the call is missed. I would really benefit from something like that to prevent it opening random programs or texting landlines with "aufgfdjkw"...
I'll keep looking.
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For the 2nd time what rom are you using? 6.1 or 6.5? If it keeps being touched on your belt clip why not just keep your phone in your pocket instead? Also what is your backlight power time settings, like what is the time intervals of when you screen shuts off? Also maybe the latest version of the lock app S2U2 V2.41 might solve your problems. I've had my phone for 8 month's and have never experienced what you are saying or herd of but then again I don't keep my phone on a beltclip I keep it in my pocket. It sounds like S2U2 2.41 should help because it gives access to those options you want to change in the S2U2 settings.
This seems to be a rom problem. My phone does nothing you described. After the screen goes off it does not react to any touching of the screen at all. When its in standy mode (screen off) and a call comes in it reactivates the screen and the call can be answered either by touching the corresponding area of the screen or by pressing the green hardware button. The same behaviour can be witnessed when I lock the phone prior to the screen turning off. So I can say I have never experienced problems like you. My phone runs the latest stock rom for Switzerland (German) and is not branded.
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This seems to be a rom problem. My phone does nothing you described. After the screen goes off it does not react to any touching of the screen at all. When its in standy mode (screen off) and a call comes in it reactivates the screen and the call can be answered either by touching the corresponding area of the screen or by pressing the green hardware button. The same behaviour can be witnessed when I lock the phone prior to the screen turning off. So I can say I have never experienced problems like you. My phone runs the latest stock rom for Switzerland (German) and is not branded.
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My phone is the same way but I'm on a custom rom. He might have to flash is phone if nothing else works.
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I'm sure most people don't tweak their phone to fix rudimentary issues that cripple the usability of the phone.
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Everyones different, every one wants something to work a little differently.
Faceeat said:
The screen turns on regardless of whether or not it's locked. It rings, and the screen turns on, but instead of allowing you to answer right away, it prompts you for the pin to unlock it. So I CAN answer a call, just sometimes not fast enough because of factors I already specified.
And if I'm not aware I'm being called, when I miss the call the screen stays on in my belt clip, and every time the screen is touched, the backlight remains on. Since it keeps being touched, it never shuts off. And the only buttons on the screen are the pinpad numbers, so it just hits those instead. This is how I got the phone.
So, since whether I lock it or not I get the same annoyances, I choose not to lock it.
Also I have yet to find a tweak that keeps the phone's touch response off for receiving calls, and turns off the screen entirely when or if the call is missed. I would really benefit from something like that to prevent it opening random programs or texting landlines with "aufgfdjkw"...
I'll keep looking.
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As mentioned previously there are many alternitive unlocking programs
Slide to unlock 2 (S2u2) is very good, customisable and free.
Here is the website http://ac-s2.com/ you can also find threads about it on XDA Developers.
I am currently using Throttle lock, Provides extra security without having to use pins, customisable, and free here is the website http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/Products/ThrottleLock/throttlelock-09
Once again you can find threads about it on XDA Developers.
to use either of these programs, just download the .cabs from the websites, transfer them to your phone and click on them to begin installation.
hope that helps.
For the 2nd time what rom are you using? 6.1 or 6.5?
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6.1
Everyones different, every one wants something to work a little differently.
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Yes, but I'm pretty sure no one wants their phone wasting batteries.
If it keeps being touched on your belt clip why not just keep your phone in your pocket instead?
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What difference would that make? I keep other things in my pocket that are probably more likely to hit the touch screen. Besides, I got the phone before I got a belt clip. It was in my pocket first. I thought the belt clip would make it better. Since it doesn't I still prefer the belt clip for the phone's accessibility.
Also what is your backlight power time settings, like what is the time intervals of when you screen shuts off?
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On that screen in the settings there's an option to turn off the device after a certain amount of time. Before, when I was in those settings, I had it unchecked, thinking it would turn the phone off completely. But it does exactly what I want—it disables the touch screen after a minute.
Still, that's not a perfect solution, but it helps a lot. That plus the lock app should make it well within working standards. Thank you.
SORRY FOR WASTING YOUR TIME GUYS. I take back what I said. I'm now an enlightened individual. I can build rainbows with my mouth.
Faceeat said:
Is there ANYTHING I can do to make this device work in a sensible way?
I mean I find it deeply unsettling that I have yet to see anyone else complain about the huge design flaw this phone has.
That being, when I receive a call, the touch screen activates at the slightest touch. That doesn't make sense because I don't tie it to my wrist... I carry it in my pocket or my belt clip and even in my belt clip it presses random spots on the touch screen. I want it to not do that, first of all. In fact I don't want the phone to even turn on touch activation until I give it clearance to turn on, because otherwise it will stay there and randomly press buttons until I check my phone and realize someone called me an hour ago.
Because that's the thing—I need it on vibrate a vast majority of the time, I can't feel it vibrate but it'll open random programs or do random crap. I can always tell because whenever I decide to reach down and check my phone I feel it overheating, and I think, "Yup. Someone called me and I didn't hear or feel it vibrate." That's actually ridiculous. That's severely headache inducing at how completely backwards it is without the option to change it in settings. At least not that I've seen. As I've said, no one else is complaining about it... so what are you guys doing?
I'm sorry but as I said, this phone drives me nuts. I can't help but feel angry just by talking about it.
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Maybe a magnet on your belt phone keeper
turns on the phone...........
Recently I also discovered that keeping X1 close to a second mobile phone MAKES X1 randomly open apps by itself....
Crazy but true!!!!
Once somebody calls you and quits,
without your reaction there's no way you can activate anything if your phone is locked with a code....
A short press of the power button suspends the screen? lol.
I was about to say it but sean0r beat me to it (by weeks lol)
I felt the same thing when I first bought the phone (1-2 hours).
I just usually set my backlight to turn off after 10-30 secs. (Settings->Power->Advance Tab)
And I also don't use the lock feature since I think it's more of a hassle then to just turn the screen off (power button, like sean0r said) then turn the screen on again when I'm about to use it. It basically does the same thing like the lock/unlock button, it help prevents unwanted screen touch, only I feel it's way way more faster than the unlock button (even if you configured the lock/unlock button, to lock quicker).
And since you're new, if you haven't used any of the great custom ROMs you should definitely try it!! Read the guides carefully though, I warn you it might be addictive =D
The custom ROMs and this great XDA community is what made me keep this phone despite this phone's poor poor poor poor poor...I mean horrible build quality! Sony should thank these guys...seriously...
Sorry for bumping an old thread...
I'll rebump - flash Mr. Rusch's Touch X ROM if you are a noob. It is slick, stable, and well configured by default.
It isn't the flashiest, but it is stable and convenient. I highly recommend for beginners.
Sounds like you're using the actual security lock with password, try just using the keylock where you slide it to use it. (Like iphone)
regardless, I think you should flash energie rom on your phone.
Ive flashed many many roms including spikegottis, 826x, and even various Titanium roms but energie is the best overall for speed, apps and reliability
I am not sure whether it is my mind playing trick with me or not, but I feel like my phone is less sensitive after I did the hard reset (power+volume down). Sometimes I need to press 2-3 times because the first light tap was not detected.
So is there anyway to increase the sensitivity?
I have the same problem, but no idea that is the hardware or only software problem.....
Fresh owner of this Optimus 2X in France, in our community, frandroid.com, we encounter the same problem , I think this is a software issue.
Did someone already contact LG??
Maybe they should include this into the bug list thread.
May I know were you guys having this problem since it is out of the box? or after reset?
I have the same problem started from day 1 till now
I have the same issue and already thought I'd be the only one having this problem.
I would not say it's a problem with sensitivity, but it feels like the touchscreen goes into some kind of sleepmode where then you need to press a second time, to wake it up.
Continuous touching is no problem. (like when typing rapidly on the keyboard)
This video is not from me, but it shows the problem.
Have a look at 13:28 and 13:37. The reviewer tries to hit the "Ackermann" entry, but the touchscreen does not recognize the touch. At 13:37 the guy has to press another time to get the entry selected.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRid-Yhu7Gg&feature=player_embedded
Yes! The touchscreen is definitely less sensitive than my old HTC Hero, and gets quite frustrating sometimes when a scroll misses the first part of the movement or a click is missed.
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App
just in case, are you guys using 20110218 baseband too?
The same problem here. If I unlock the screen and then tap on any on screen apps, I need to touch again for it to open. Only the first time though, after that it function ok. I think this is a bug and needs to be fixed... I have my pc for double-click.
Yep, count me in. Same problem here. Sometimes screen taps aren't registered. Will do some research later on, but I think it's a software problem. (maybe you have to tap 2x as fast )
Hi,
same problem here!
Potentially a driver issue. A Nexus S user had a similar issue in this thread: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/18431-tuning-driver-to-deal-with-unresponsive-touchscreen/
He managed to tweak the driver and it works fine now. Need to know C++ (I think?) to understand though.
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Potentially a driver issue. A Nexus S user had a similar issue in this thread: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/18431-tuning-driver-to-deal-with-unresponsive-touchscreen/
He managed to tweak the driver and it works fine now. Need to know C++ (I think?) to understand though.
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I see, then probably they will fix it on the next update/gingerbread?
Same issue here.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the problem seems to be that the screen has zero tolerance when it comes to tapping and swiping together. If you tap and slide your finger a bit directly after the tap, the tap is ignored. In other words your tap has to be a steady tap when you click on a button or an app. Right on the spot and with no swiping or sliding afterwards. I can't reproduce this on any of my other devices.
Ergo, it seems that the natural tapping I'm used to isn't working on the x2. It seems like I have to adjust my tap. I think that this could in principle be solved with a setting somewhere, because clearly the x2 is capable of registering this in for example a web page.
The great thing of this is that you can safely tap and swipe in the app drawer to scroll up and down or left and right. The downside is that a tap with a little swipe isn't registered at all. I would say that LG has choosen here for a wrong setting.
My personal experience about screen sensivity.. can you confirm if it's the same for your device?
I noticed a strange touch response.. and after some tests, I can say that the touch screen and icons are influenced by the surface where the phone was put!
with the phone in my hands, it's all ok (only sometimes - rare - I need to tap more than once).
If I put the phone over a glass surface (like a glass table) without touching it with both hands, the touch and the icons not respond!! NEVER!
If I put the phone on my scanner the touch screen works ok, but the icons not (or only few and rare taps was detected).!
If I put the phone over my big Onkyo amplifier.. It works like in my hands.. or better!! even without touching with hands.. only with a finger!
Put it back on my glass table.. and all stop working again. If I put a aluminium foil under the phone (between phone and table).. the touch and the icons works again !!
If I put it on the bed.. it don't work.
LG support say that they have tested the phone about this issue after my report.. but no strange response was detected by them. I don't know if they really tested it..
Try it and let me know what you think about!
tested on glass surface, I can press and swipe through pages with a finger without problem.
it is true that my device is not so responsive, but aint reaching that level yet
i read about a similar behaviour on other devices because some devices need a proper grounding for the capacitive screen to work correctly. You can find this problem via google.
Some devices have problem in a car-mounting, for example.
But i think thats not the problem the thread-opener talked about?
Guys I'm looking to get this phone and after reading Engadgets review of the X2 where they mention that the screen is not as sensitive to the touch as other phones I got a bit worried and started googling which lead me here!
Is this true? The screen isn't very sensitive and you have to apply more pressure than other capacitive phones?
I know that the OP is talking about a different issue but I reckon LG will get that sorted out via software update, or at least hope so!
Please do post your experience about the screen sensitivity of the X2 as this is putting me off. I currently have the Motorola Milestone 2 which is very sensitive to the touch even with a screen protector on it.
Cheers
Hi all. Got my first ATIV S Neo with Sprint a couple weeks ago, had graphical corruptions, and random reboots, replaced it for another.
This one works much better, but there are some issues I'm seeing (nitpicking?) and I'm not sure if I have another defective handset or if this is just WP8, or if this is common to just this handset. Came from an HTC arrive on WP7.5 and things were pretty stable.
1) Occasional live tile animation stuttering; If I, for instance, go into the messages hub, sometimes the live tile swing animation will lock for half a second and then immediately pop into the message hub. Happens loading other apps too.
2) Occasional lock screen weirdness;
2a) very rare; press power button, screen comes on, screen fades out like the phone lost power but not to backlight, then backlight shuts off, pressing the power button again, everything works fine.
2b) occasional; in a dark room, press the power button to wake to lock screen, press again to turn off. screen/backlight goes out, backlight comes back, then goes out, then quickly comes back and back out.
3) in IE, typing in the address bar, text input freezes as it brings up suggestions from bing. (type "google.com" and get "gole.com"). disabling search suggestions makes it go away.
4) Text notifications stop working; sometimes the text notification sound stops playing (vibrate remains working). Reboot corrects it. Have also had it where the vibrate alert goes away and not the sound.
Anyone else seeing these? Are these known or is this phone also messed up?
Haven't seen those on my (open-market GSM) ATIV S, but there were a handful of glitches when I first got the phone. Those were corrected in the first big fiormware update from Samsung in my case, but I had to wait a few months for it.
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Haven't seen those on my (open-market GSM) ATIV S, but there were a handful of glitches when I first got the phone. Those were corrected in the first big fiormware update from Samsung in my case, but I had to wait a few months for it.
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Thanks, that makes me feel a little more comfortable. These problems really don't feel like hardware to me, since they're fairly infrequent. I might have to stop by the sprint store and test the display model out a little.
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