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Does it have the waterproof issues of the Z?

I'm thinking of buying, but I'm not sure if Sony has fixed the faulty back panel housing or whatever the reason caused the Xperia Z to have water leaks inside with all flaps closed.
Seems that the Z1 has additional bezel above the front and back glass, do you guys think it is for keeping the glass plates in plase?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXPbq-PuqC8
There's your answer. None of these phones are waterproof. It's all false advertising. The commercials show you can take it swimming in a pool, but the manual and the fine print say NO. No to pool with chlorine, no to beach with sand and salt water, no to shower with soap, no to using it while wet because the touchscreen won't work, no to EVERYTHING. This is barely a feature unless you REALLY are afraid of spilling some clean ice water at a restaurant. Most phones can survive that already. With the faulty waterproofing of the entire Z line, you also sacrifice the quality of the speakers and the microphone because they require a membrane to repel water, heavily muffling them.
Don't buy this phone for its waterproof credentials.

katamari201 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXPbq-PuqC8
There's your answer. None of these phones are waterproof. It's all false advertising. The commercials show you can take it swimming in a pool, but the manual and the fine print say NO. No to pool with chlorine, no to beach with sand and salt water, no to shower with soap, no to using it while wet because the touchscreen won't work, no to EVERYTHING. This is barely a feature unless you REALLY are afraid of spilling some clean ice water at a restaurant. Most phones can survive that already. With the faulty waterproofing of the entire Z line, you also sacrifice the quality of the speakers and the microphone because they require a membrane to repel water, heavily muffling them.
Don't buy this phone for its waterproof credentials.
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You know why they state that it shouldn't be used in salt water or in swimming pools? Because IPX8 test was made using clean water! That is why it is certified for clean water! This is just the specification of certificate. Get your facts straight first.
It will survive both swimming pool and sea water but you'll have to wash it after that with clean water. And yes, you can take it with you to shower just don't wash it with soap. But hey, who is insane enough to wash his device with soap!

the_mouse_bg said:
I'm thinking of buying, but I'm not sure if Sony has fixed the faulty back panel housing or whatever the reason caused the Xperia Z to have water leaks inside with all flaps closed.
Seems that the Z1 has additional bezel above the front and back glass, do you guys think it is for keeping the glass plates in plase?
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Xperia Z is only IP 57 while Xperia Z1 is IP 58

Z1 also has a hardware camera button, so you don't need to touch the no working screen underwater to take video/pictures now.

Funny. I used my xz in my pool all the time. No problem.
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katamari201 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXPbq-PuqC8
There's your answer. None of these phones are waterproof. It's all false advertising. The commercials show you can take it swimming in a pool, but the manual and the fine print say NO. No to pool with chlorine, no to beach with sand and salt water, no to shower with soap, no to using it while wet because the touchscreen won't work, no to EVERYTHING. This is barely a feature unless you REALLY are afraid of spilling some clean ice water at a restaurant. Most phones can survive that already. With the faulty waterproofing of the entire Z line, you also sacrifice the quality of the speakers and the microphone because they require a membrane to repel water, heavily muffling them.
Don't buy this phone for its waterproof credentials.
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First of all When u spent some enough bucks on a phone, you always try to be careful like holding the baby... Your phone doesnt need to swim or take shower everyday even humans wont bother nowadays... ... And you are not going to put in water overnight instead of ur bedside table... But when you walk in the streets suddenly rain comes and its all wet, or you drop it suddenly into water in the roads/streets , it can cause no damage... and In case you are bold enough to take ur phone to swimming pool/beach and want to take some snaps this phone is ready for it...

I plan to game in the bath

jos_031 said:
I plan to game in the bath
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lol I like your style.
I hate to admit it but I think I like it a little more cause it looks like my psp.

seeing that the back cover of the Z1 is only glued on again, like on the Z, I'm wondering if it's going to start to lift in the future and compromise the waterproofness?!
I'm currently on the XZ which has the lifted back cover and amazon will refund me what I paid in April because of this defect! I guess I'll put a few Euros on top of it and get the Z1.
Having currently this issue, this is of very much interest to me and also if the phone is going to heat up like the XZ and thermal throttling sets in....

drsoran2 said:
seeing that the back cover of the Z1 is only glued on again, like on the Z, I'm wondering if it's going to start to lift in the future and compromise the waterproofness?!
I'm currently on the XZ which has the lifted back cover and amazon will refund me what I paid in April because of this defect! I guess I'll put a few Euros on top of it and get the Z1.
Having currently this issue, this is of very much interest to me and also if the phone is going to heat up like the XZ and thermal throttling sets in....
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im confused, if it's glued on then isn't it false advertising to be saying its a unibody enclosure?

systoxity said:
im confused, if it's glued on then isn't it false advertising to be saying its a unibody enclosure?
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they have told aluminium frame is unibody which is only on sides

katamari201 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXPbq-PuqC8
There's your answer. None of these phones are waterproof. It's all false advertising. The commercials show you can take it swimming in a pool, but the manual and the fine print say NO. No to pool with chlorine, no to beach with sand and salt water, no to shower with soap, no to using it while wet because the touchscreen won't work, no to EVERYTHING. This is barely a feature unless you REALLY are afraid of spilling some clean ice water at a restaurant. Most phones can survive that already. With the faulty waterproofing of the entire Z line, you also sacrifice the quality of the speakers and the microphone because they require a membrane to repel water, heavily muffling them.
Don't buy this phone for its waterproof credentials.
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No, that does not answer my question. I asked if the Xperia Z1 has the same flaw as the Xperia Z with the back cover lifting, not if a phone can be wateeproof, but thanks for taking the time to try to answer my question. I believe there's a topic here in xda on which you can educate us all on the "no phone is waterproof" topic. But since that wasn't my quiestion, please stick to the topic.
Morlock O said:
Xperia Z is only IP 57 while Xperia Z1 is IP 58
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Yes, that seems reassuring, hope they've addressed the Z issue somehow
drsoran2 said:
seeing that the back cover of the Z1 is only glued on again, like on the Z, I'm wondering if it's going to start to lift in the future and compromise the waterproofness?!
I'm currently on the XZ which has the lifted back cover and amazon will refund me what I paid in April because of this defect! I guess I'll put a few Euros on top of it and get the Z1.
Having currently this issue, this is of very much interest to me and also if the phone is going to heat up like the XZ and thermal throttling sets in....
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Well, there seems to be a screw in a interesting position near the flash, could it be related to the back plate lifting issue?
Also, Z1 has additional plastic bezel wich may or may not be there to act as a 'retainer' for the glass plates...?
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katamari201 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXPbq-PuqC8
There's your answer. None of these phones are waterproof. It's all false advertising. The commercials show you can take it swimming in a pool, but the manual and the fine print say NO. No to pool with chlorine, no to beach with sand and salt water, no to shower with soap, no to using it while wet because the touchscreen won't work, no to EVERYTHING. This is barely a feature unless you REALLY are afraid of spilling some clean ice water at a restaurant. Most phones can survive that already. With the faulty waterproofing of the entire Z line, you also sacrifice the quality of the speakers and the microphone because they require a membrane to repel water, heavily muffling them.
Don't buy this phone for its waterproof credentials.
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I had the Z (Just changed to the Z1) and I took it in the shower, in swimming pools, in rock pools, in beer... almost any kind of liquid you can think of and it's fine! I never had the back plate issue and the phones water resistance worked perfectly, even to make some underwater Instagrams!
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How wet have you gotten your Gear?

Curious to hear some stories from those of you that have gotten your gear wet. I've done dishes (just splashes) and been in the rain with no problem.

Four days after getting it i accidently jumped in shower with it. I didnt notice untill it vibrated from a notifucation. And i was in there at least 10 minutes before that. No problems at all. To be noted i dont shower with it but it was good to know a full blast of water and shampoo didnt do anything to it.
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dv8nathan said:
Four days after getting it i accidently jumped in shower with it. I didnt notice untill it vibrated from a notifucation. And i was in there at least 10 minutes before that. No problems at all. To be noted i dont shower with it but it was good to know a full blast of water and shampoo didnt do anything to it.
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Sincerely, With respect I do NOT suggest you make that a habit and other posters try to replicate that. The IP is rated at a mere 55. I suggest you are a very lucky person, in fact very lucky indeed. From reading this forum it is clear from many posts that even moisture caused by sweat has caused some owners problems in misting up the camera lens. Several members who use the Gear in a Gym have actually made their own under strap to prevent moisture touching the back of the Gear.
No confrontation on my part I just want to point out that what you did was maybe more to do with luck than the design capabilities of this watch?
Caution.
Regards

A little rain going into my car thats it!

Absolutely. It was a singular event that actually freaked me out. I have no intentions of duplicating that mistake nor advise anyone to do that just because i was fortunate. I love my gear and am excited to partucipate in all the new developements happening here.
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im a truck driver, im always out in the weather. i have put this watch through so much stress, i even banged it into a trailer!
theres still not a scratch on it and my watch is white, and its not even dirty(yet). very durable watch. i even wash my hands alot and gotten water
into the speaker on the strap. everything still works perfectly. :good:

Guess the better question is if anyone has had water damage and from what. I am very cautious with the watch and water. Wash my hands a lot slower now.. Lol. Basically treat it as it can't get wet. Don't know a lot of people who have the money to waste to test it's limits. I sure don't want to find out.
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koreankabachy said:
Guess the better question is if anyone has had water damage and from what. I am very cautious with the watch and water. Wash my hands a lot slower now.. Lol. Basically treat it as it can't get wet. Don't know a lot of people who have the money to waste to test it's limits. I sure don't want to find out.
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I will say 'Amen' to that.

Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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hhadrian said:
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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If you read this forum and other forums many people have not been as lucky as you. The Gear should certainly have been produced and designed with a higher IP rating. Sony has been doing this for some time. It is truly the Achilles tendon of the gear.
Regards

hhadrian said:
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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I have read the comments and apart from some misting on the camera lens water is not a problem, if I get very hot and sweaty mine mists up but it clears very quickly much like my car windscreen and I would not like to lose the camera on the gear or my car windscreen
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Submerged in Saltwater Fish Tank
Was tending to my Saltwater fish tank with the right hand. To make a long story short...a fish got in the way. I reached in with my left hand to get him out of the way. I forgot I had the watch on my left wrist. I had the GG in my 75 Gallon Saltwater tank for about 10 seconds. The S Voice sounded a lil gurgled for a bit. However, now everything seems fine. This happened 3 days ago.

noface357 said:
Was tending to my Saltwater fish tank with the right hand. To make a long story short...a fish got in the way. I reached in with my left hand to get him out of the way. I forgot I had the watch on my left wrist. I had the GG in my 75 Gallon Saltwater tank for about 10 seconds. The S Voice sounded a lil gurgled for a bit. However, now everything seems fine. This happened 3 days ago.
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For some actual visual of what the watch is rated for, this is the water part of an IP55 rating at 23 seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-J1QnQIhiA
And here is an IP55 rated radio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbDIB2yGuSY
Safe to say short of swimming with it, it should be fine.

How wet have you gotten your gear?
This sounds dirty... really wet! hahaha j/k sowwy.

Last night was the first time my watch got wet. I sweat heaps (and rather easily). Was at arcade and talked into a bit of impromptu dance dance revolution. Danced up a storm and sweated like a waterfall. No sign of moisture inside anywhere. If it continues that way, waterproofing is no longer a worry for me
Sucks that we have to worry about a watch like that...or is it just paranoia because of one guy and his 'it's only ip55 and therefore not workproof' stuff

Brendo said:
or is it just paranoia because of one guy and his 'it's only ip55 and therefore not workproof' stuff
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I think it's mostly this. You can't swim with it on, but look at the evidence here;
* Someone showered with it and no problems
* Someone dunked it in a fishtank and no problems (Salt water at that)
* Look at those videos I posted - that is literally an IP55 rating test.
The water in the camera thing seems to be the lack of a seal around the edge of the glass. That's NOT the lens, it's just a lens protector. Water in here won't hurt anything at all.

Wore it in the rain to test her out. Even used it while raining (not well, but I was kinda able to swipe back and forth). She still works like a champ with absolutely no problems. Worst case scenario I'll just buy another if this one takes a dive and gut it for parts to tinker with.
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You know, ive seen comments on the moisture in the camera and ive never gotten it even after my accidental shower incident and frequent handwashings.
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Check out this video on Youtube (add to the end of youtube.com) /watch?v=3o0MUGyU2Q4
(I don't have many posts, won't let me post URLs.

Wrathlon said:
I think it's mostly this. You can't swim with it on, but look at the evidence here;
* Someone showered with it and no problems
* Someone dunked it in a fishtank and no problems (Salt water at that)
* Look at those videos I posted - that is literally an IP55 rating test.
The water in the camera thing seems to be the lack of a seal around the edge of the glass. That's NOT the lens, it's just a lens protector. Water in here won't hurt anything at all.
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Shall we talk facts rather than opinion. See below.
"The International Organization for Standardization issued a standard for water resistant watches which also prohibits the term waterproof to be used with watches, which many countries have adopted. The international standard ISO 2281 Horology – Water-resistant watches defines the water resistance of watches. This standard was introduced in 1990 and only designed for watches intended for ordinary daily use and are resistant to water during exercises such as swimming for a short period. They may be used under conditions where water pressure and temperature vary. However, whether they bear an additional indication of overpressure or not, they are not intended for submarine diving.
The ISO 2281 standard specifies a detailed testing procedure for each mark that defines not only pressures but also test duration, water temperature, and other parameters. Besides this ISO 2859-2 Sampling plans indexed by limiting quality (LQ) for isolated lot inspection and ISO 2859-3 Sampling procedures for inspection by attributes – Part 3: Skip-lot sampling procedures concerning procedures regarding lot sampling testing come into play, since not every single watch has to be tested for ISO 2281 approval.
ISO 2281 water resistance testing of a watch consists of:
Resistance when immersed in water at a depth of 10 cm. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water for 1 hour.
Resistance of operative parts. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water with a force of 5 N perpendicular to the crown and pusher buttons (if any) for 10 minutes.
Condensation test. The watch shall be placed on a heated plate at a temperature between 40 °C and 45 °C until the watch has reached the temperature of the heated plate (in practice, a heating time of 10 minutes to 20 minutes, depending on the type of watch, will be sufficient). A drop of water, at a temperature between 18 °C and 25 °C shall be placed on the glass of the watch. After about 1 minute, the glass shall be wiped with a dry rag. Any watch which has condensation on the interior surface of the glass shall be eliminated.
Resistance to different temperatures. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water at the following temperatures for 5 minutes each, 40 °C, 20 °C and 40 °C again, with the transition between temperatures not to exceed 1 minute. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
Resistance to water overpressure. Immersion of the watch in a suitable pressure vessel and subjecting it within 1 minute to the rated pressure for 10 minutes, or to 2 bar in case where no additional indication is given. Then the overpressure is reduced to the ambient pressure within 1 minute. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
Resistance to air overpressure. Exposing the watch to an overpressure of 2 bar. The watch shall show no air-flow exceeding 50 μg/min.
No magnetic or shock resistance properties are required.
No negative pressure test is required.
No strap attachment test is required.
No corrosion test is required.
Except the thermal shock resistance test all further ISO 2281 testing should be conducted at 18 °C to 25 °C temperature. Regarding pressure ISO 2281 defines: 1 bar = 105 Pa = 105 N/m2.
In practice, the survivability of the watch will depend not only on the water depth, but also on the age of the sealing material, past damage, temperature, and additional mechanical stresses."
Further t this please also note the following;
"Water resistance rating Suitability Remarks
Water Resistant 3 ATM or 30 m Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. NOT suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkelling, water related work and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 5 ATM or 50 m Suitable for swimming, white water rafting, non-snorkeling water related work, and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 10 ATM or 100 m Suitable for recreational surfing, swimming, snorkeling, sailing and water sports. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 20 ATM or 200 m Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving.
Diver's 100 m Minimum ISO standard (ISO 6425) for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Diver's 100 m and 150 m watches are generally old(er) watches.
Diver's 200 m or 300 m Suitable for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Typical ratings for contemporary diver's watches.
Diver's 300+ m for mixed-gas diving Suitable for saturation diving (helium enriched environment). Watches designed for mixed-gas diving will have the DIVER’S WATCH L M FOR MIXED-GAS DIVING additional marking to point this out.
Manufacturers water resistance classifications are interpretations and are not part of any ISO standard definition."
As you can read for yourself this is not me on some sort of quest to prove any point whatsoever, I don't need to its written for you above.
My aim is to try to prevent people from damaging their watch. Nothing more and nothing less.
From the above quotes you can clearly see that our galaxy gear is not even water resistant by definition and needs care when coming into any contact with water.
Personally speaking, I find this a total pain in the neck and a very large blunder on Samsung's part. This is a wrist watch and should at least be water resistant too 30m or put this way splash proof. Yes, your other daily watch that has written on the back " Water resistant to 30m does NOT mean that the watch can be submerged to a depth of 30m, you cant even shower or bath in it!.
This is one of the biggest complaints with the watch trade and one that causes numerous problems to all watch retailers and horologists. The 'standard' is absurd. See the above codification for yourself.
The other point that needs to be understood is just because one may shower in the Gear, Sauna in the Gear etc and the watch still functions is certainly NOT an indication that no damage was done, the opposite may apply, its often just a question of time and how long the water inside the Gear will take to cause a possible problem.
Those unfortunate owners who have the lens mist up due to water ingress, How many times do you think one can place the watch in rice and dry it out before corrosion starts to make some affect? Sure the watch may work today, for a week maybe even six months but as yet we simply don't have the living experience of what's to come as the device is so new.
Only now are those who abused the Sony Xperia Z mobile phones starting to find their mobiles are not at all 'water proof' and cannot be taken white water rapids, diving, boiled in soup or cooked in chocolate (I jest not go see the youtube clips) etc. .

Gear waterproof

Hello guys, yes i know i could google that, and did, but i do not figure out whether it is water restistant/proof.
i found this :
http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-V7000ZWAXSP-features
GALAXY Gear is certified IP55*, protected against penetration of dust and water splashes from daily use.
and watched this
/watch?v=sgIQdee4wDI&list=PLA8B9BACF92DA70AB
but i still do not know if it is water prof,
if i can do swimming or go bath with i ?
Which places are demageable(loudspeaker..?) what if i would make waterresistant TESA film on it?
Has Anyone some experinces with water or other influences ?
Please tell me
Thank you and have a awesome life friend !

it is "splash proof" meaning it shouldn't get hurt from occasionally getting a little water on it from sources like walking in a light rain, or washing your hands without submerging it.
It is most defiantly not water proof, do not submerge it under water, it will die.

Yes what Milimbar said. Don't bath, or swim with it.
Some users report the camera fogging up after getting wet.

creasqui said:
Hello guys, yes i know i could google that, and did, but i do not figure out whether it is water restistant/proof.
i found this :
http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-V7000ZWAXSP-features
GALAXY Gear is certified IP55*, protected against penetration of dust and water splashes from daily use.
and watched this
/watch?v=sgIQdee4wDI&list=PLA8B9BACF92DA70AB
but i still do not know if it is water prof,
if i can do swimming or go bath with i ?
Which places are demageable(loudspeaker..?) what if i would make waterresistant TESA film on it?
Has Anyone some experinces with water or other influences ?
Please tell me
Thank you and have a awesome life friend !
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and google didn't show you the other threads on XDA covering this already?

there was a post some time ago from a guy that left it on accidentally in the shower and it had no damage but i woudlnt recommend that

Just a quick selection:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2590033
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496940
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458450

I accidentally submerged mine while cleaning the fish tank pump. I nearly pooped when I did it but quickly shook off the water and it came out unharmed. Admittedly, I didnt go trying to take pictures afterward but the next day, the camera seemed fine too. That was two months ago and haven't had an issed or another serious accident.
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From the OP's link:
GALAXY Gear is certified IP55*, protected against penetration of dust and water splashes from daily use.
* IP55 rating means that device is protected against penetration of dust in quantity to interfere satisfactory operation and harmful ingress of water under test condition of spraying the enclosure from any direction with a stream of water from a standard 6.3mm diameter test nozzle for up to 3 minutes. According to accredited test results by Korea Labouratory Accreditation Scheme, individual results may vary.
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This is pretty specific and precise it seems to me. Not sure what the OP is unclear about.
From the IP55 rating, no, it is not suitable for full immersion for any length of time, nor is it protected at any depth.
Rather -- again just from the description above -- you can hit it with a stream of water for minutes at a time, from all different angles, and it will be fine.
IOW, no problem with getting it wet. Yes problem with immersion.

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IOW, no problem with getting it wet. Yes problem with immersion.
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Cant explain it any clearer than that.
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[Q] Is the original watch strap that comes with the watch waterproof?

I know the watch is waterproof, but is the leather band? I realize it's leather, but there is such a thing as waterproof leather. And why make a watch that's waterproof but give it a band that is not? If you know the answer, please point me in the direction of where you read that it was or was not. Thank you

my watch survived a kayaking experience (along with my s5) without any apparent harm.

Occasional waterdrops is no problem for the strap but it won't like a shower. For a waterproof strap you'll have to change to plastic type.

No, the watch ain't waterproof they way it souds when you say it. You can carefully walk in rain / wash your hands with watch on your wrist, but you can not put it under water (swimming or so) or keep it while going to shower. In fact you can, but it's most likely gonna suck water in.
Read more about IP rating here

It can be under water for short periods, with zero issues.
I've worn mine at a water park, going in and out of water for short periods, zero problems.
The watch is rated IP67. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code
Solid particle protection:
6 Dust tight No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact (dust tight)
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Liquid ingress protection:
7 Immersion up to 1 m Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion). Test duration: 30 minutes
The lowest point of enclosures with a height less than 850 mm is located 1000 mm below the surface of the water, the highest point of enclosures with a height equal to or greater than 850 mm is located 150 mm below the surface of the water
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I still would not recommend outright "swimming" with it. Since that may keep it under for longer than rated. I also would not try a shower, just because depending on the water jets, it's not 9k rated.

How much do you know about the waterproof function of mobile phones?

Some people have misunderstandings about the waterproof function of mobile phones. They think that if the phone has a waterproof function, water will not enter the phone. This is not the case.
Waterproof rating is 0-8.
IPX-1：Protection against vertically dripping water
IPX-2：Protection against vertically dripping water when device is tilted at an angle up to 15 degrees
IPX-3：Protection against direct sprays of water when device is tilted at an angle up to 60 degrees
IPX-4：Protection from sprays and splashing of water in all directions.
IPX-5：Protection from low-pressure water projected from a nozzle with a 6.3mm diameter opening in any direction
IPX-6：Protection from water projected in powerful jets from a nozzle with a 12.5mm diameter opening in any direction
IPX-7：Protected from immersion in water with a depth of up to 1 meter (or 3.3 feet) for up to 30 minutes
IPX-8：Protected from immersion in water with a depth of more than 1 meter (manufacturer must specify exact depth)
The phone supports waterproof but not professional waterproof, it is splash-proof and water-resistant. The mobile phone has reached the standard waterproof level at the factory, but it is not permanent. The bumping, squeezing, falling, etc. in daily life may damage the waterproof membrane and reduce the waterproof ability.
Therefore, it is recommended to avoid contact with the water source during normal use. If your mobile phone does not support waterproof function, you need to pay more attention.

Like your thread.

Very good write down. Very helpful
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MirageBlader said:
Very good write down. Very helpful
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Thanks!

Yummy99 said:
Some people have misunderstandings about the waterproof function of mobile phones. They think that if the phone has a waterproof function, water will not enter the phone. This is not the case.
Waterproof rating is 0-8.
IPX-1：Protection against vertically dripping water
IPX-2：Protection against vertically dripping water when device is tilted at an angle up to 15 degrees
IPX-3：Protection against direct sprays of water when device is tilted at an angle up to 60 degrees
IPX-4：Protection from sprays and splashing of water in all directions.
IPX-5：Protection from low-pressure water projected from a nozzle with a 6.3mm diameter opening in any direction
IPX-6：Protection from water projected in powerful jets from a nozzle with a 12.5mm diameter opening in any direction
IPX-7：Protected from immersion in water with a depth of up to 1 meter (or 3.3 feet) for up to 30 minutes
IPX-8：Protected from immersion in water with a depth of more than 1 meter (manufacturer must specify exact depth)
The phone supports waterproof but not professional waterproof, it is splash-proof and water-resistant. The mobile phone has reached the standard waterproof level at the factory, but it is not permanent. The bumping, squeezing, falling, etc. in daily life may damage the waterproof membrane and reduce the waterproof ability.
Therefore, it is recommended to avoid contact with the water source during normal use. If your mobile phone does not support waterproof function, you need to pay more attention.
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I have never water damaged a phone which is ip68 and I use them in water a lot. These are just bad manufacturers excuses. As long as you wash the phone off with fresh water and allow to dry properly before charging (and don't buy Sony phones), you're good to go.

Calling it waterproof all the time won't help your point here mate ? it's *water resistant you'll want to put instead.