Curious to hear some stories from those of you that have gotten your gear wet. I've done dishes (just splashes) and been in the rain with no problem.
Four days after getting it i accidently jumped in shower with it. I didnt notice untill it vibrated from a notifucation. And i was in there at least 10 minutes before that. No problems at all. To be noted i dont shower with it but it was good to know a full blast of water and shampoo didnt do anything to it.
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Four days after getting it i accidently jumped in shower with it. I didnt notice untill it vibrated from a notifucation. And i was in there at least 10 minutes before that. No problems at all. To be noted i dont shower with it but it was good to know a full blast of water and shampoo didnt do anything to it.
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Sincerely, With respect I do NOT suggest you make that a habit and other posters try to replicate that. The IP is rated at a mere 55. I suggest you are a very lucky person, in fact very lucky indeed. From reading this forum it is clear from many posts that even moisture caused by sweat has caused some owners problems in misting up the camera lens. Several members who use the Gear in a Gym have actually made their own under strap to prevent moisture touching the back of the Gear.
No confrontation on my part I just want to point out that what you did was maybe more to do with luck than the design capabilities of this watch?
Caution.
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A little rain going into my car thats it!
Absolutely. It was a singular event that actually freaked me out. I have no intentions of duplicating that mistake nor advise anyone to do that just because i was fortunate. I love my gear and am excited to partucipate in all the new developements happening here.
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im a truck driver, im always out in the weather. i have put this watch through so much stress, i even banged it into a trailer!
theres still not a scratch on it and my watch is white, and its not even dirty(yet). very durable watch. i even wash my hands alot and gotten water
into the speaker on the strap. everything still works perfectly. :good:
Guess the better question is if anyone has had water damage and from what. I am very cautious with the watch and water. Wash my hands a lot slower now.. Lol. Basically treat it as it can't get wet. Don't know a lot of people who have the money to waste to test it's limits. I sure don't want to find out.
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Guess the better question is if anyone has had water damage and from what. I am very cautious with the watch and water. Wash my hands a lot slower now.. Lol. Basically treat it as it can't get wet. Don't know a lot of people who have the money to waste to test it's limits. I sure don't want to find out.
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I will say 'Amen' to that.
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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hhadrian said:
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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If you read this forum and other forums many people have not been as lucky as you. The Gear should certainly have been produced and designed with a higher IP rating. Sony has been doing this for some time. It is truly the Achilles tendon of the gear.
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hhadrian said:
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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I have read the comments and apart from some misting on the camera lens water is not a problem, if I get very hot and sweaty mine mists up but it clears very quickly much like my car windscreen and I would not like to lose the camera on the gear or my car windscreen
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Submerged in Saltwater Fish Tank
Was tending to my Saltwater fish tank with the right hand. To make a long story short...a fish got in the way. I reached in with my left hand to get him out of the way. I forgot I had the watch on my left wrist. I had the GG in my 75 Gallon Saltwater tank for about 10 seconds. The S Voice sounded a lil gurgled for a bit. However, now everything seems fine. This happened 3 days ago.
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Was tending to my Saltwater fish tank with the right hand. To make a long story short...a fish got in the way. I reached in with my left hand to get him out of the way. I forgot I had the watch on my left wrist. I had the GG in my 75 Gallon Saltwater tank for about 10 seconds. The S Voice sounded a lil gurgled for a bit. However, now everything seems fine. This happened 3 days ago.
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For some actual visual of what the watch is rated for, this is the water part of an IP55 rating at 23 seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-J1QnQIhiA
And here is an IP55 rated radio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbDIB2yGuSY
Safe to say short of swimming with it, it should be fine.
How wet have you gotten your gear?
This sounds dirty... really wet! hahaha j/k sowwy.
Last night was the first time my watch got wet. I sweat heaps (and rather easily). Was at arcade and talked into a bit of impromptu dance dance revolution. Danced up a storm and sweated like a waterfall. No sign of moisture inside anywhere. If it continues that way, waterproofing is no longer a worry for me
Sucks that we have to worry about a watch like that...or is it just paranoia because of one guy and his 'it's only ip55 and therefore not workproof' stuff
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or is it just paranoia because of one guy and his 'it's only ip55 and therefore not workproof' stuff
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I think it's mostly this. You can't swim with it on, but look at the evidence here;
* Someone showered with it and no problems
* Someone dunked it in a fishtank and no problems (Salt water at that)
* Look at those videos I posted - that is literally an IP55 rating test.
The water in the camera thing seems to be the lack of a seal around the edge of the glass. That's NOT the lens, it's just a lens protector. Water in here won't hurt anything at all.
Wore it in the rain to test her out. Even used it while raining (not well, but I was kinda able to swipe back and forth). She still works like a champ with absolutely no problems. Worst case scenario I'll just buy another if this one takes a dive and gut it for parts to tinker with.
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You know, ive seen comments on the moisture in the camera and ive never gotten it even after my accidental shower incident and frequent handwashings.
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Check out this video on Youtube (add to the end of youtube.com) /watch?v=3o0MUGyU2Q4
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I think it's mostly this. You can't swim with it on, but look at the evidence here;
* Someone showered with it and no problems
* Someone dunked it in a fishtank and no problems (Salt water at that)
* Look at those videos I posted - that is literally an IP55 rating test.
The water in the camera thing seems to be the lack of a seal around the edge of the glass. That's NOT the lens, it's just a lens protector. Water in here won't hurt anything at all.
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Shall we talk facts rather than opinion. See below.
"The International Organization for Standardization issued a standard for water resistant watches which also prohibits the term waterproof to be used with watches, which many countries have adopted. The international standard ISO 2281 Horology – Water-resistant watches defines the water resistance of watches. This standard was introduced in 1990 and only designed for watches intended for ordinary daily use and are resistant to water during exercises such as swimming for a short period. They may be used under conditions where water pressure and temperature vary. However, whether they bear an additional indication of overpressure or not, they are not intended for submarine diving.
The ISO 2281 standard specifies a detailed testing procedure for each mark that defines not only pressures but also test duration, water temperature, and other parameters. Besides this ISO 2859-2 Sampling plans indexed by limiting quality (LQ) for isolated lot inspection and ISO 2859-3 Sampling procedures for inspection by attributes – Part 3: Skip-lot sampling procedures concerning procedures regarding lot sampling testing come into play, since not every single watch has to be tested for ISO 2281 approval.
ISO 2281 water resistance testing of a watch consists of:
Resistance when immersed in water at a depth of 10 cm. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water for 1 hour.
Resistance of operative parts. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water with a force of 5 N perpendicular to the crown and pusher buttons (if any) for 10 minutes.
Condensation test. The watch shall be placed on a heated plate at a temperature between 40 °C and 45 °C until the watch has reached the temperature of the heated plate (in practice, a heating time of 10 minutes to 20 minutes, depending on the type of watch, will be sufficient). A drop of water, at a temperature between 18 °C and 25 °C shall be placed on the glass of the watch. After about 1 minute, the glass shall be wiped with a dry rag. Any watch which has condensation on the interior surface of the glass shall be eliminated.
Resistance to different temperatures. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water at the following temperatures for 5 minutes each, 40 °C, 20 °C and 40 °C again, with the transition between temperatures not to exceed 1 minute. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
Resistance to water overpressure. Immersion of the watch in a suitable pressure vessel and subjecting it within 1 minute to the rated pressure for 10 minutes, or to 2 bar in case where no additional indication is given. Then the overpressure is reduced to the ambient pressure within 1 minute. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
Resistance to air overpressure. Exposing the watch to an overpressure of 2 bar. The watch shall show no air-flow exceeding 50 μg/min.
No magnetic or shock resistance properties are required.
No negative pressure test is required.
No strap attachment test is required.
No corrosion test is required.
Except the thermal shock resistance test all further ISO 2281 testing should be conducted at 18 °C to 25 °C temperature. Regarding pressure ISO 2281 defines: 1 bar = 105 Pa = 105 N/m2.
In practice, the survivability of the watch will depend not only on the water depth, but also on the age of the sealing material, past damage, temperature, and additional mechanical stresses."
Further t this please also note the following;
"Water resistance rating Suitability Remarks
Water Resistant 3 ATM or 30 m Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. NOT suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkelling, water related work and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 5 ATM or 50 m Suitable for swimming, white water rafting, non-snorkeling water related work, and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 10 ATM or 100 m Suitable for recreational surfing, swimming, snorkeling, sailing and water sports. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 20 ATM or 200 m Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving.
Diver's 100 m Minimum ISO standard (ISO 6425) for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Diver's 100 m and 150 m watches are generally old(er) watches.
Diver's 200 m or 300 m Suitable for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Typical ratings for contemporary diver's watches.
Diver's 300+ m for mixed-gas diving Suitable for saturation diving (helium enriched environment). Watches designed for mixed-gas diving will have the DIVER’S WATCH L M FOR MIXED-GAS DIVING additional marking to point this out.
Manufacturers water resistance classifications are interpretations and are not part of any ISO standard definition."
As you can read for yourself this is not me on some sort of quest to prove any point whatsoever, I don't need to its written for you above.
My aim is to try to prevent people from damaging their watch. Nothing more and nothing less.
From the above quotes you can clearly see that our galaxy gear is not even water resistant by definition and needs care when coming into any contact with water.
Personally speaking, I find this a total pain in the neck and a very large blunder on Samsung's part. This is a wrist watch and should at least be water resistant too 30m or put this way splash proof. Yes, your other daily watch that has written on the back " Water resistant to 30m does NOT mean that the watch can be submerged to a depth of 30m, you cant even shower or bath in it!.
This is one of the biggest complaints with the watch trade and one that causes numerous problems to all watch retailers and horologists. The 'standard' is absurd. See the above codification for yourself.
The other point that needs to be understood is just because one may shower in the Gear, Sauna in the Gear etc and the watch still functions is certainly NOT an indication that no damage was done, the opposite may apply, its often just a question of time and how long the water inside the Gear will take to cause a possible problem.
Those unfortunate owners who have the lens mist up due to water ingress, How many times do you think one can place the watch in rice and dry it out before corrosion starts to make some affect? Sure the watch may work today, for a week maybe even six months but as yet we simply don't have the living experience of what's to come as the device is so new.
Only now are those who abused the Sony Xperia Z mobile phones starting to find their mobiles are not at all 'water proof' and cannot be taken white water rapids, diving, boiled in soup or cooked in chocolate (I jest not go see the youtube clips) etc. .
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I dont know if anyone has asked this, but what happens after 30 mins of the Xperia Z being submerged in water? Though the flaps loosen up and give in? Any ideas?
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It will spontaneously burst into flames, even under water.
On a serious note, probably nothing. IP57 is a test made for 30 minutes but chances are it'll survive a lot more. The next level requires endless submersion at a higher depth and that is probably unreasonable to test/expect. I wouldn't try it out though.
You should see the waterproofing as an extra security. Dropped your phone in a puddle, spilled some water over it, need to take a call and it's raining? No problem. It's meant to survive those things. What it is not meant to do is to remain operational while submersed in water (they've said this on their website). It will, but it's not made to be used as an underwater camera or as a shower texting device (even though it can do those things).
Haha
Great to know, thanks.
I would though like to see a review site test it for longer, just to push the Xperia Z to its limits.
Id expect it it text in the shower like the Nokia 5210? Which I used to have years ago.
But I understand the rest. Thanks Ambroos
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(IP)(5)(7)
IP = Ingress Protection
5 = Dust protected
Desc - Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact
7 = Immersion up to 1 m
Desc:
Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion).
Test Routine:
Test duration: 30 minutes
Immersion at depth of at least 1 m measured at bottom of device, and at least 15 cm measured at top of device
The reason why it's not 8 because for you to be able to get IP58 is
8 = Immersion beyond 1 m
Desc: The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Normally, this will mean that the equipment is hermetically sealed. However, with certain types of equipment, it can mean that water can enter but only in such a manner that it produces no harmful effects.
Test Routine:
Test duration: continuous immersion in water
Depth specified by manufacturer
and to get the IP67
6 = Dust tight
Desc: No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact
The highest level is IP68 which requires a dust tight and is capable of staying underwater for an unlimited time. Like submarines.
But this isn't dust tight because of the open ports. And also this can't emerge underwater for an unlimited time because the body isn't airtight and moisture can develop inside the case if submerged longer.
So.......... It is only stated to last 30minutes underwater because that's the criteria level of IP rules is not very specific enough.
So sony only have 2 choices for this... Either go with the rule to state the device that it can be submerged 1meter for 30 minutes or state that it can be submerged down below the water for centuries
So to summarize it all the 30minutes 1 meter is not the device limitation but just the certification's description.
DarkKrypt said:
I dont know if anyone has asked this, but what happens after 30 mins of the Xperia Z being submerged in water? Though the flaps loosen up and give in? Any ideas?
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check this video
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x86rd1_submarine-model-pressure-hull-colla_tech#.URzR7Wdp7DU
Just means its ok to watch porn on the shower
while reading this thread, the follwing question comes into my mind: what about using the phone while taking a bath? don't get me wrong: i do not talk about reading websites UNDER water, but what about the steam? can the phone resist the steam? is this also included in ip 57?
hebbe said:
while reading this thread, the follwing question comes into my mind: what about using the phone while taking a bath? don't get me wrong: i do not talk about reading websites UNDER water, but what about the steam? can the phone resist the steam? is this also included in ip 57?
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thanks for your answer.
so just to be sure and safe: while taking a hot, steamy bath, i can surf the internet (above the water, of course), and the steam can't do any harm to the XZ?
that'll be awesome. how often did i wish i could use my tablet or smartphone for reading stuff while lying in the bath-tube...
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thanks for your answer.
so just to be sure and safe: while taking a hot, steamy bath, i can surf the internet (above the water, of course), and the steam can't do any harm to the XZ?
that'll be awesome. how often did i wish i could use my tablet or smartphone for reading stuff while lying in the bath-tube...
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Hot temperature expands air so it should be safe what you need to worry about is cold water Not that water will get inside but the air inside the device could become moisture if it's cold and wet so dunno for sure
from my experience as a diver, I can say that it is not so much about the duration in water but about the depth and the pressure. The deeper you go into water, the higher is the pressure. For every 10 meter, the pressure doubles. From 1 bar to 2 bar and so on. What this means, is, if you go beyond the depth for which the phone is specified and tested, the protective covers might be too weak to hold steady against the pressure of the water around it. Then they'll give in and bulge inside, thus water comes in -> phone's dead!
This may not mean that if you go 1,1m that the phone will die immediately. It could withstand 2 m, maybe even 3 or 5. But I wouldn't bet or try it out. It may survive these depths, but only for a very short time.
To conclude, I would assume that going to swim for 1 hour in up to 1 m should be fine. But going down to 3m for 5 minutes - not so good idea.
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Just means its ok to watch porn on the shower
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That made me literally laugh out loud:good:
Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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somewhere i read that after taking it out of the water, the speaker has to "dry" in order to work properly again. so just wait a few hours and tell us if sound is ok again.
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Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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wait till it dries off, then the speaker would be ok.
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somewhere i read that after taking it out of the water, the speaker has to "dry" in order to work properly again. so just wait a few hours and tell us if sound is ok again.
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That's normal. Wait till the water dries off, then the speaker will go back to normal.
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Well I've got my Xperia z, after 4 hours of playing with it, i have put it in the water, everthing its OK? Well no... The Loudspeaker now seems to be muffled. :/
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Wait it dries off the speaker or muffled and yes but not fully dry now. Give 30 minute it at least or more so it get out water.
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You are all right . 30m later was OK :highfive:
Thanks m8's
Hello guys, yes i know i could google that, and did, but i do not figure out whether it is water restistant/proof.
i found this :
http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-V7000ZWAXSP-features
GALAXY Gear is certified IP55*, protected against penetration of dust and water splashes from daily use.
and watched this
/watch?v=sgIQdee4wDI&list=PLA8B9BACF92DA70AB
but i still do not know if it is water prof,
if i can do swimming or go bath with i ?
Which places are demageable(loudspeaker..?) what if i would make waterresistant TESA film on it?
Has Anyone some experinces with water or other influences ?
Please tell me
Thank you and have a awesome life friend !
it is "splash proof" meaning it shouldn't get hurt from occasionally getting a little water on it from sources like walking in a light rain, or washing your hands without submerging it.
It is most defiantly not water proof, do not submerge it under water, it will die.
Yes what Milimbar said. Don't bath, or swim with it.
Some users report the camera fogging up after getting wet.
creasqui said:
Hello guys, yes i know i could google that, and did, but i do not figure out whether it is water restistant/proof.
i found this :
http://www.samsung.com/sg/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-V7000ZWAXSP-features
GALAXY Gear is certified IP55*, protected against penetration of dust and water splashes from daily use.
and watched this
/watch?v=sgIQdee4wDI&list=PLA8B9BACF92DA70AB
but i still do not know if it is water prof,
if i can do swimming or go bath with i ?
Which places are demageable(loudspeaker..?) what if i would make waterresistant TESA film on it?
Has Anyone some experinces with water or other influences ?
Please tell me
Thank you and have a awesome life friend !
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and google didn't show you the other threads on XDA covering this already?
there was a post some time ago from a guy that left it on accidentally in the shower and it had no damage but i woudlnt recommend that
Just a quick selection:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2590033
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496940
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458450
I accidentally submerged mine while cleaning the fish tank pump. I nearly pooped when I did it but quickly shook off the water and it came out unharmed. Admittedly, I didnt go trying to take pictures afterward but the next day, the camera seemed fine too. That was two months ago and haven't had an issed or another serious accident.
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From the OP's link:
GALAXY Gear is certified IP55*, protected against penetration of dust and water splashes from daily use.
* IP55 rating means that device is protected against penetration of dust in quantity to interfere satisfactory operation and harmful ingress of water under test condition of spraying the enclosure from any direction with a stream of water from a standard 6.3mm diameter test nozzle for up to 3 minutes. According to accredited test results by Korea Labouratory Accreditation Scheme, individual results may vary.
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This is pretty specific and precise it seems to me. Not sure what the OP is unclear about.
From the IP55 rating, no, it is not suitable for full immersion for any length of time, nor is it protected at any depth.
Rather -- again just from the description above -- you can hit it with a stream of water for minutes at a time, from all different angles, and it will be fine.
IOW, no problem with getting it wet. Yes problem with immersion.
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IOW, no problem with getting it wet. Yes problem with immersion.
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Cant explain it any clearer than that.
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So, I just got this s5 and decided to take the water resistancs to a new level.
I first ended up going to Cedar Point Amusement park, and went to the water park with it. Took a few video's with it on the slides, etc. Then went to the Wavepool , kept in my pock so it was no more then a few feet under water at any time.
Worked great, phone was still working. Just an FYI, if you do use it underwater, your signal strength will die, no cell signal underwater guys, I first thought the phone fried, but then relized, that was the issue, and then in a min, 4G was back! (I was freaked when I realized my pebble told me I was not connected.) Played with my Sphero for a bit.
a week later, I was at a festival doing some shooting, I was invited to the pool, with all the drugged up artists ,.. They all thought I was on every drug known to man because I brought my phone in the pool to take pictures (a few under water ones too!)
So far so good. I will admit that the phone at no time was fully submerged for more then 5 or 10 min at a time. but the phone still works great, and just needs a rince and dry to get the touch screen to work nomaly again.
so far, I'm not afraid!. I got the Samsung wireless back, I know it's got the seal, so that one is next! this week!
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so far, I'm not afraid!.
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To me it's a "just in case feature" lol... "just in case I..."
I left my phone in a bowl of water for an hour the first day I got it and everything is still fine.
Please report back to what finally drowns it lol.
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Please report back to what finally drowns it lol.
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You all have taken playing with your phone to a whole new level. Maybe I can see testing Samsung's numbers, but who in their right mind is going to intentionally search for the time where the phone actually drowns?
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You all have taken playing with your phone to a whole new level. Maybe I can see testing Samsung's numbers, but who in their right mind is going to intentionally search for the time where the phone actually drowns?
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my theory, is if I am going to actualy do long swimming with it, I will put it my waterproof bag, but jumping into the pool for a quick jaunt, playing with my Sphero, or a waterslide where my phone is not UNDER water for more then a few min at a time, I will risk it.
I never keep phones long enough anyways.
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So, I just got this s5 and decided to take the water resistancs to a new level.
I first ended up going to Cedar Point Amusement park, and went to the water park with it. Took a few video's with it on the slides, etc. Then went to the Wavepool , kept in my pock so it was no more then a few feet under water at any time.
Worked great, phone was still working. Just an FYI, if you do use it underwater, your signal strength will die, no cell signal underwater guys, I first thought the phone fried, but then relized, that was the issue, and then in a min, 4G was back! (I was freaked when I realized my pebble told me I was not connected.) Played with my Sphero for a bit.
a week later, I was at a festival doing some shooting, I was invited to the pool, with all the drugged up artists ,.. They all thought I was on every drug known to man because I brought my phone in the pool to take pictures (a few under water ones too!)
So far so good. I will admit that the phone at no time was fully submerged for more then 5 or 10 min at a time. but the phone still works great, and just needs a rince and dry to get the touch screen to work nomaly again.
so far, I'm not afraid!. I got the Samsung wireless back, I know it's got the seal, so that one is next! this week!
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Chlorine will destroy your waterproof capabilities.
Also your speaker will get saturated and sound like crap - eventually the phone will have a weak speaker resulting in popping/crackling sounds. Just FYI...You can take pictures and the phone can get wet but if your doing it everyday of summer, bad things could happen. I think the Active can do it better than the reg S 5, but I wont go swimming with it. Maybe take pictures once in a while in the pool.
? Makes No sense to me but hey i dont have a silver spoon in my mouth. Even if i could i woulnt cause its a waist of good hardware. Maybe everyone should be poor once in thier life and would appreciate things more.
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rbedell said:
Chlorine will destroy your waterproof capabilities.
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I highly doubt the chlorine content in a public pool is high enough to cause the waterproof seals on the S5 to deteriorate.
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I highly doubt the chlorine content in a public pool is high enough to cause the waterproof seals on the S5 to deteriorate.
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It's probably not high enough to break the seal, yes, but your headphone jacks are being exposed to chlorine, as are your speakers. Filtered water at home wouldn't corrode the equipment as fast since... well that's chlorine's job, you're not drinking chlorinated water at home. But yeah, the speakers and headphone jack aren't directly part of the board if I'm correct, instead they are attatched to it (I suck at explaining things, bear with me please) by the looks of it, probably explaining why you can buy the headphone jack and speakers separately as replacement parts instead if the whole board. The reason why the slip is on the charging port is to protect the board, which is in more cases a lot more important than sound equipment. I hope I explained that generally well for no sleep in 36 hours. :laugh:
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msavic6 said:
I highly doubt the chlorine content in a public pool is high enough to cause the waterproof seals on the S5 to deteriorate.
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Chlorine, maybe not. Extra pressure against the seals, almost assuredly.
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The only thing i can say with absolute confidence is that if you brick your phone, don't expect much help. You're using the phone way out of the normal guidelines.
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Some people have insurance policies, some people have more money and are willing to play with it. Some people are spoiled and didn't pay for their phone and can just ask for another one when it breaks. Whatever the reason, thank you.
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Some people have insurance policies, some people have more money and are willing to play with it. Some people are spoiled and didn't pay for their phone and can just ask for another one when it breaks. Whatever the reason, thank you.
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Good point
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Some people have insurance policies, some people have more money and are willing to play with it. Some people are spoiled and didn't pay for their phone and can just ask for another one when it breaks. Whatever the reason, thank you.
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and some people take the risk and deal with the consequences. I have taken the phone in the pool, and when I am done, I do clean it off, do I plan on doing it on a regular basis, NO, I only did it because I was thinking, I had 30 days to return this phone if it explodes, so I took the risk, in general, If I ever do plan on going to the pool in the future, I have a waterproof bag that I use.
Now the shower, man, is nice to change the song and see whats playing. but I don't submerge it.
Long story short, I was asking for outcomes, I was not asking if anyone was a spoiled brat, had more money then god, did't care if the phone exploded or whatever, those are just troll answers, I was looking for experiences of people willing to take risks, what their device's outcome was, not their financial outcome.
and about chlorine and the seals, that is a legit concern, just like salt in salt water pools. I did not think of that, and this is why i asked.
Water + electricity = busted ****. Common sense. And when the first battery does explode (not 100% on if the battery will do this) from taking into elements they have no business being in I'm sure someone will jump on some lawsuit even though it was there fault cause we all know water and electricity go so well together.
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Water + electricity = busted ****. Common sense. And when the first battery does explode (not 100% on if the battery will do this) from taking into elements they have no business being in I'm sure someone will jump on some lawsuit even though it was there fault cause we all know water and electricity go so well together.
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What? The phone is built to withstand a certain degree of water, hence the iP67 rating, I don't underatand why you are jumping to these astronomically implausible conclusions.
I don't know if you have seen the videos on YouTube but the S5 is highly resistant to water, even more so than the IP67 rating would lead you to believe.
Batteries can explode from various things, sitting too long can cause them to puff up, a direct impact/force can also cause it to explode.
Water+Electricity is bad but telling people their battery will explode if their S5 encounters water is simply doing a disservice to them. There are limits to the S5's water resistance as there are limits to many other things in life, we respect those limits and stay within the designated "safe" boundaries. There is no difference with the S5, respect the limits of the water resistance and continue enjoying the feature.
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What? The phone is built to withstand a certain degree of water, hence the iP67 rating, I don't underatand why you are jumping to these astronomically implausible conclusions.
I don't know if you have seen the videos on YouTube but the S5 is highly resistant to water, even more so than the IP67 rating would lead you to believe.
Batteries can explode from various things, sitting too long can cause them to puff up, a direct impact/force can also cause it to explode.
Water+Electricity is bad but telling people their battery will explode if their S5 encounters water is simply doing a disservice to them. There are limits to the S5's water resistance as there are limits to many other things in life, we respect those limits and stay within the designated "safe" boundaries. There is no difference with the S5, respect the limits of the water resistance and continue enjoying the feature.
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The battery exploding is more or less hypothetical as I said I wasn't a 100% and furthermore like I said water and electricity don't mix. One little flaw in you precious waterproof seals and poof your phones done. I myself have noticed just from charging my phone the USB flap is already loose so no I would not trust submerging my phone in water at any depth. and as for the waterproof rating i would think that applies to things like getting caught in the rain on your phone or dropping it in the toilet and ouickly removing it. Not jumping in a pool or going scuba diving and taking pictures underwater. Purposely Taking your phone into water or any other liquid is just STUPID it's water resistant not watertight or waterproof. Do with your phone what you will I just hate seeing hardware abused even if it is not mine. Sorry if this upsets anyone just my opinion.
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The battery exploding is more or less hypothetical as I said I wasn't a 100% and furthermore like I said water and electricity don't mix. One little flaw in you precious waterproof seals and poof your phones done. I myself have noticed just from charging my phone the USB flap is already loose so no I would not trust submerging my phone in water at any depth. and as for the waterproof rating i would think that applies to things like getting caught in the rain on your phone or dropping it in the toilet and ouickly removing it. Not jumping in a pool or going scuba diving and taking pictures underwater. Lastly this was supposed to be about opinions well here mine. Taking your phone into water or any other liquid is STUPID it's water resistant not watertight or waterproof. Do with your phone what you will I just hate seeing hardware abused even if it is not mine. Sorry if this upsets anyone just my opinion.
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The IP67 rating means Ingress Protection, the S5 in this case is 100% Dust proof as it has the highest value on the scale for dust resistance. The 2nd number in which the S5 has a 7 means water resistant at depths of up to 1m for up to 30 minutes, there is only one level above the S5's rating. This rating is given based on standardized testing so assuming you follow the specified limits and make sure your port covers are sealed, you should be fine taking your device with you in up to 1m of water.
Regarding the loosening of the port cover, that is a major point of concern. My port cover is still very tight fitting but I am have been extremely cautious in making sure it stays at 90° from the opening and doesn't bend in any other direction as to not weaken the flap.
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The IP67 rating means Ingress Protection, the S5 in this case is 100% Dust proof as it has the highest value on the scale for dust resistance. The 2nd number in which the S5 has a 7 means water resistant at depths of up to 1m for up to 30 minutes, there is only one level above the S5's rating. This rating is given based on standardized testing so assuming you follow the specified limits and make sure your port covers are sealed, you should be fine taking your device with you in up to 1m of water.
Regarding the loosening of the port cover, that is a major point of concern. My port cover is still very tight fitting but I am have been extremely cautious in making sure it stays at 90° from the opening and doesn't bend in any other direction as to not weaken the flap.
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Yea the flap is what has me believing it shouldn't be submerged. Say your sitting poolside and drop ur phone in, Yea it's good to have the iP67 rating but just from removing the USB flap to charge i would throw that rating out the window. It's loose
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I know the watch is waterproof, but is the leather band? I realize it's leather, but there is such a thing as waterproof leather. And why make a watch that's waterproof but give it a band that is not? If you know the answer, please point me in the direction of where you read that it was or was not. Thank you
my watch survived a kayaking experience (along with my s5) without any apparent harm.
Occasional waterdrops is no problem for the strap but it won't like a shower. For a waterproof strap you'll have to change to plastic type.
No, the watch ain't waterproof they way it souds when you say it. You can carefully walk in rain / wash your hands with watch on your wrist, but you can not put it under water (swimming or so) or keep it while going to shower. In fact you can, but it's most likely gonna suck water in.
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It can be under water for short periods, with zero issues.
I've worn mine at a water park, going in and out of water for short periods, zero problems.
The watch is rated IP67. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code
Solid particle protection:
6 Dust tight No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact (dust tight)
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Liquid ingress protection:
7 Immersion up to 1 m Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion). Test duration: 30 minutes
The lowest point of enclosures with a height less than 850 mm is located 1000 mm below the surface of the water, the highest point of enclosures with a height equal to or greater than 850 mm is located 150 mm below the surface of the water
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I still would not recommend outright "swimming" with it. Since that may keep it under for longer than rated. I also would not try a shower, just because depending on the water jets, it's not 9k rated.
This week I decided wash my device with tap water and for my surprise I realized a few hours later that my cameras was with water inside... I never let it fell down and I was shocked with the "protection" and even more after reading that Huawei doesn't guarantee protection against water...
So if it really has IP68, what's the point?
Anyone had trouble with water?
Still don't understand why people purposely put their expensive smartphones under water. regardless of the IP68 spec
It's a very sensitive electronic device which may or may not be correctly sealed, keep the IP68 rating for when it rains or when you accidentally get it wet, don't put it under water on purpose...
And why did you only check Huawei's water policy 'after' you put it in water? Why not check these things first?
Plus, how dirty was your phone that you needed to put it under the tap? A damp cloth would have been better no?
I'm fully understanding the last message, and as you I'm not gonna put my phone willingly under water...To clean it... Or anything else!
BUT, in other hand, huawei worked (and marketed communication) to put an ip certification on it and we all paid for it too.... Not 'the only' feature but it's part of the price for that product.
Will anyone say 'ok it's fine' if your water-resistant watch is filled with water after you've washed your hands or done some dishes?
Could be a 10€ ones or 15k€...water-resistant or ip is still the same... Even more with a device like this phone which was launched around 1k€.
Will somebody say 'ok...' too if your brand new jacket which was sold as bullet proof is scratch by a paintball ? ...
Etc etc.
OK : don't look to damage your stuff willingly
Not OK : companies wash their hands so easily...
Hope your device get repaired !
Or put in rice bag for the night ... Old style always relieved
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Did you bought it from an official seller??? Because there are a lot of cheap refurbished that they don't mention this of course.
I had a scare with my p30pro. Walked into a swimming pool with my phone in my swimming shorts. Phone fell out and stayed under water for approx 5mins in under 1m depth. Got the phone out and dried it with a towel. Had phone microphone issues for two days after that - people on a call could not hear me properly, but all issues cleared out after a couple of days, so I'm guessing there was some water stuck in mic holes that had to dry out. Since then, I had no issues so I'm guessing IP68 rating was true in my case
I've used mine in the Mediterranean Sea, no problems so far. Multiple times under water.
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I've used mine in the Mediterranean Sea, no problems so far. Multiple times under water.
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You know what salt water does to electronics right?
Even if the water doesn't cause a problem the salt will corrode the contacts for charger etc
Can I swim with my smartphone?
We certainly wouldn’t recommend swimming with your phone. When the IEC tests a smartphone it’s done under lab conditions, with the handset in standby mode – not in a swimming pool full of various chemicals used to cleanse the water.
The same applies to the ocean. Seawater is full of salt, a mineral device-makers stress isn’t tested when the unit is being put through its paces for an IP rating, so we’d also strongly suggest steering clear of that.
Let’s be clear here: the rating the International Electrotechnical Commission assigns is strictly for fresh water. That means it doesn’t guarantee protection from submersion in other liquids – beer, coffee, salt water and soda, to name but a few.
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You know what salt water does to electronics right?
Even if the water doesn't cause a problem the salt will corrode the contacts for charger etc
Can I swim with my smartphone?
We certainly wouldn’t recommend swimming with your phone. When the IEC tests a smartphone it’s done under lab conditions, with the handset in standby mode – not in a swimming pool full of various chemicals used to cleanse the water.
The same applies to the ocean. Seawater is full of salt, a mineral device-makers stress isn’t tested when the unit is being put through its paces for an IP rating, so we’d also strongly suggest steering clear of that.
Let’s be clear here: the rating the International Electrotechnical Commission assigns is strictly for fresh water. That means it doesn’t guarantee protection from submersion in other liquids – beer, coffee, salt water and soda, to name but a few.
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Yes, Did plug my port on the bottom first and give it 'normal' water bath afterwards.
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Yes, Did plug my port on the bottom first and give it 'normal' water bath afterwards.
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You will destroy your phone, hope you are rich
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You will destroy your phone, hope you are rich
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It'll be fine. Well worth the footage I got.
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It'll be fine. Well worth the footage I got.
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No, putting a smartphone into the sea will not be fine, but carry on
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This week I decided wash my device with tap water and for my surprise I realized a few hours later that my cameras was with water inside... I never let it fell down and I was shocked with the "protection" and even more after reading that Huawei doesn't guarantee protection against water...
So if it really has IP68, what's the point?
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never had any issue like this and i do clean my mobile like this quite often even cleaned it with soap on many occasions.
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never had any issue like this and i do clean my mobile like this quite often even cleaned it with soap on many occasions.
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Then you've been lucky so far, that's all, every time you put it in the sea it starts to eat away at the metal contacts, sooner or later they will fail, then you will be here on XDA asking why and how to fix it
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It'll be fine. Well worth the footage I got.
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There is a dedicated underwater case for P30 pro and underwater photo mode.
Much cheaper than new phone IMO, if you're into underwater photos.
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Then you've been lucky so far, that's all, every time you put it in the sea it starts to eat away at the metal contacts, sooner or later they will fail, then you will be here on XDA asking why and how to fix it
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I guess that you confused users, this guy said that he ony washed the device, no put in the sea (like mine)
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I guess that you confused users, this guy said that he ony washed the device, no put in the sea (like mine)
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Doesn't matter really, purposely putting your phone under any water isn't the best idea, they do not come advertising that you can do that, there is no picture of the phone under the water taking photos to show you what you can do with it, it is literally just a rating to say it is water 'resistant' and even then, only at a certain depth for a certain length of time, under lab conditions, so in other words, Not waterproof at all as it will eventually leak in, that alone tells me some devices will be better sealed than others, which has already been shown by people complaining water got in the camera and display
Your phone your choice, just don't come making threads on XDA asking how to fix it when it all goes wrong
Yes it has IP68, I tried putting it on a pool and under a waterfall. Just don't let your speaker grill and charging port submerged in the water for a long period
Wait i thought the p30 pro was waterproof???
Phone is IP68 rated. It can survive underwater. IP68 is great if you are under a rain shower or if the phone falls accidentally in water. Well, I use it in the shower and i wash it under tap water. Never had any problem. Remember that, if the membrane of mic gets wet, the quality of your voice will be worse.
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Wait i thought the p30 pro was waterproof???
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IP68 is splash proof only, not really a waterproof, even Samsung's S & Note series