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I understand that currently it cannot be relocked on it has been unlocked. But I would like to know why if anyone knows?
Would it be possible in the future?
And is there anyone working on this now?
There is no real reason to want to work on figuring it out.
The only reason would be to cheat on your warranty. And HTC is actually honoring all the hardware related warranty cases.
So no good reason to re-lock, and thus no real reason for devs to work hard on figuring it out.
Mine can be
Obviously that doesn't help you much though. To be able to lock it again, you need to know how to set S-OFF, which is something that (as it stands) can't be done.
Just wondering but if HTC honors the warranty on a phone with unlocked bootloader, why do the 2 different guides to rooting say one will void warranty (unlocking bootloader) and one will preserve the warranty (the one-click app)?
By law HTC can refuse to support but they are supporting for some strange reason. The disclaimers are there to warn that HTC could stop supporting at any time if they see unlocked bootloaders.
I think re-locking the bootloader is quite possible... the only problem at this point is... we don't know how... it could be a software or hardware hook, but ATM, no one knows...
And I don't believe anyone is eagerly trying to find this since HTC seems to be honouring hardware warranty even with unlocked bootloaders...
It is the price of doing business
Once the boot-loader is unlocked you can do things to your phone like over-clock the cpu or run the flash at super-bright for hours. In other words, you can do things that could damage your phone that would not be HTC's fault ... therefore they shouldn't be held liable.
So instead of just locking the phone down like most of the phones out there, HTC/Google give you a choice: Stay stock or unlock with one command. If you choose to unlock they they don't have to honour their warranty because you could be doing bad things to your phone.
The fact that they give us the choice is one of the reasons I bought this phone. The fact that they are honouring the warranties even when you unlock is extra nice of them.
Long story short: Unlocking is a sign that you've been messing with your phone and that is all it is. It is irreversible by design and there is no reason to reverse it.
It is not irreversable by design, HTC can do it.
Besides, unlocking the bootloader is not a pre-requiste to any of the things you listed above anymore (aside from FRG33 users, anyway).
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It is not irreversable by design, HTC can do it.
Besides, unlocking the bootloader is not a pre-requiste to any of the things you listed above anymore (aside from FRG33 users, anyway).
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My money is on a special hardware device that HTC uses that force-flashes the entire rom on the phone. With out the special hardware, I am betting there is no way to do it.
But like others said, who cares. There is no point in putting effort in to something so irrelevant.
That's what I assumed, 'til I noticed my phone was S-OFF after being repaired.
Looks like something along those lines, just got my device back yesterday from having the power button fixed and its locked again. now that we have one click root i can now load CM6 without unlocking it again.
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...The only reason would be to cheat on your warranty. And HTC is actually honoring all the hardware related warranty cases...
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They aren't honouring it for me, my mic and speaker have ceased to work, and they have flat out refused to even deal with me, because I have an unlocked bootloader
Yeah thee only reason would be to cheat my warranty. but im glad to here that HTC has been honoring a lot of your guy's warranty's anyways.
To be honest a lot of manufactures dont fix the product, they just give you a new one anyways. so they made not even notice. right now im having a hardware issue with the trackball (i bought it on eBay :[ ) and i want to send it in but idk if i should??
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They aren't honouring it for me, my mic and speaker have ceased to work, and they have flat out refused to even deal with me, because I have an unlocked bootloader
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Sorry to hear, for me it never came up as a question. With you, since both are broken they probably assumed it was caused by software and wrote you off.
I would say keep trying they should be at least let you send it in, and then let you know if it truly is out of your warranty and give you a price to fix.
New phone :d
Called HTC and got some of the best customer service of my life. Told them my trackball wasnt working properly anymore and they are sending me a brand new phone with next day shipping. Never asked once about it being unlocked.
So it seems as you guys are right, as long as it isnt an issue that could be caused my unlocking and messing with you phone they will still honor your warranty.
BEST THING THO...I get to keep the battery, and i bought my phone used for 450 and now im getting a brand new phone
Just so you know OP. I unlocked my Boot loader, but my phone had hardware problems. So I called them, they said they would send out a replacement, next day I cancelled it for reasons I am not going to get into detail over. Well they replacement arrived and my card hold was realized, so I got two nexus's Think I am going to call them and still send the bad one back anyways though.
Moral HTC is has superb warranty!
Hello,
I posted this in the other headphone jack thread amd didn't get an answer.
My headphone plug broke a few days ago. It works, until I barely touch the connector (i.e. in my jeans pocket), that's when I lose the left channel completely. I tried several units, they all the same problem.
I have unlocked the bootloader a while back. I understand that the warranty "may" have been voided as per HTC, however this is very obviously a hardware issue.
Does anyone know how HTC will handle this?
If that changes anything, I can also send it to Rogers' repair center instead of HTC directly.
Then again, I don't feel like loosing my phone for a few weeks if it's going to be useless or if I'm charged a pretty huge amount.
Has anyone been running into a similar issue?
Thanks!
Sent from my HTC Raider using XDA
Couldn't you just relock the bootloader?
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Just get the gingerbread ruu and restore yourself to stock.
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What if you went into a att store? Same issue
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Have you seen this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301998) thread? It offers a few things to try, like covering the exposed metal/silver with a piece of electrical tape, and also suggests an app that disabled headphone buttons, so if it's shorting and thinking a button's being pressed, it won't matter
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Couldn't you just relock the bootloader?
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Just get the gingerbread ruu and restore yourself to stock.
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In both cases, won't they see "RELOCKED" if they boot to HBOOT? I've never actually tried to relock it, so I don't know, however it is my understanding that you can never have back a "LOCKED" HBOOT, only "RELOCKED" or "UNLOCKED".
I just had this problem and I contacted ATT. Here is my chatlog with them:
me: so my friend did something called an unlock bootloader on my phone
me: will that affect my warranty
att: Rooting your device would certainly cause issues on your phone, and ultimately affect your device and warranty.
att: I would avoid any rooting systems on the device.
me: so is my warranty void?
att: Did you download that program on your device ?
me: my friend did something on the HTC website
att: That step is not available on the HTC manufacturer's website, rooting the device would be found on a 3rd party website.
att: Was the software on your device rooted ?
me: how do i check that?
att: How do you check if your software has been rooted ?
att: I would not have that information, only the HTC manufacturer would be able to diagnose if the software has been tampered with. Did your friend root your device software ?
me: he said he went on htcdev
me: and used an unlock tool
att: Correct ! that is a 3rd party website
me: so my warranty is void?
att: I will honor this exchange as a 1 time courtesy, for future reference I would advise no rooting of the software on your device due to that could cause issues on the device.
I had the exact same problem as you and I just sent my vivid to them. idk if they are going to charge me but so far it looks good
Ugh, join the club. I can't stand the headphone jack BS. I have to hold the phone perfectly still or playback will pause.
I recently had the same problem. Headphone jack quit on unlocked and rooted Vivid. Using the Superguide from the Development section, I relocked and unrooted the phone. I brought the phone to an AT&T store. They checked the headphone jack, made sure it was broken, and went and got me a new one. They didn't check for any modification to the software. But relock and unroot just in case.
cedrikfd said:
In both cases, won't they see "RELOCKED" if they boot to HBOOT? I've never actually tried to relock it, so I don't know, however it is my understanding that you can never have back a "LOCKED" HBOOT, only "RELOCKED" or "UNLOCKED".
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Play the "dumb" card and tell them you've had this problem before and sent it in for repair. >=)
Digging this thread from the graveyard.
My Bell Raider started doing this well... 30 minutes ago. I was actually having some minor issues with headphones, but until now, longer plugs (with mic) were working like a charm. Well now nothing works...
My problem is I am Bootloader Unlocked, S-OFF (void sticker gone...) and running a custom ROM...
Does anyone have a solution regarding this?
Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.
Find a way to get it back to stock should be all good. Worked with my captivate. I haven't rooted so i can't help ya
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It seems to be happening all the time, my HTC One 32GB has a very annoying problem with focusing: it keeps refocusing at "light speed" to the point where it's just a blur in at some times! I have HTCDev unlocked my phone and installed a rom which I had hoped would solve the problem as if it were a software issue but oh no, it still does it and it makes the phone vibrate a bit when it keeps doing it.
I'm worried that with it being HTCDev unlocked and slightly chipped with a fall I made, that I wouldn't be able to get it sent back (I've heard HTCs' repair service is a bit on the crap side), is there any fix or am I screwed?
I had a video I could show you but with my 2 post standing, I can't post links D:
Look here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41053489
So probably hardware defect. I had the same problem.
Concerning unlocked bootloader: there are many threads here about relocking using s-off.
Neuer_User said:
Look here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41053489
So probably hardware defect. I had the same problem.
Concerning unlocked bootloader: there are many threads here about relocking using s-off.
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I had my phone HtcDev unlocked, and doesn't that mean they'll have my phone's code on file in case I try for a replacement? I got the phone last week on Car phone warhouse, do you think they'll replace it in store if I lock it again?
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I had my phone HtcDev unlocked, and doesn't that mean they'll have my phone's code on file in case I try for a replacement? I got the phone last week on Car phone warhouse, do you think they'll replace it in store if I lock it again?
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Don't worry about it being unlocked! They never check or refuse warranty. I've never read of anyone being refused warranty service for having an unlocked bootloader. I've sent many in and never had a problem. People need to stop worrying about it.
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Don't worry about it being unlocked! They never check or refuse warranty. I've never read of anyone being refused warranty service for having an unlocked bootloader. I've sent many in and never had a problem. People need to stop worrying about it.
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That seems pretty good to me, how do you recommend going about locking it again as I've heard I need to do, and who should I return it to? HTC or CarphoneWarehouse? Many thanks!
harry9991 said:
That seems pretty good to me, how do you recommend going about locking it again as I've heard I need to do, and who should I return it to? HTC or CarphoneWarehouse? Many thanks!
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Is it s-off? If it's only bootloader unlocked go into fastboot and type fastboot oem lock. It will say relocked tho. If you're s-off there are ways to s-on and make it show "locked" but I'm not sure the s-on works very well. If you're sending it in for repair don't bother locking it at all. There are many instances were HTC hasn't cared if it's unlocked. In fact, like I said, I've never seen anyone be denied repair services because of it being unlocked or rooted. Try calling the place where you bought it first to see if they will send you out a replacement. Then call HTC if they won't.
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Is it s-off? If it's only bootloader unlocked go into fastboot and type fastboot oem lock. It will say relocked tho. If you're s-off there are ways to s-on and make it show "locked" but I'm not sure the s-on works very well. If you're sending it in for repair don't bother locking it at all. There are many instances were HTC hasn't cared if it's unlocked. In fact, like I said, I've never seen anyone be denied repair services because of it being unlocked or rooted. Try calling the place where you bought it first to see if they will send you out a replacement. Then call HTC if they won't.
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Hello, many thanks for your reply. I think I'll try to S-OFF to get it back to untampered, locked S-ON (seems odd, but apparently it works), I'm just worried that I wouldn't get a replacement from the shop I'd bought it from due to the damage on the phone (it has a noticeable chip and scratch on the back), I only got it a week back! Do you think I'd still be eligible, if so, I could take it into town today or tomorrow and get a replacement (hopefully) as it's so close.. Otherwise I may resort to HTC. One thing I've also noticed is that the sound is no where as near to loud as some people have suggested. I'm quite young (17) and have no hearing difficulties but the phone isn't "boomy" at all, it's only slightly superior in quality and a bit in loudness to my ol' HTC Sensation. I fear I may have a faulty device but the tampering I've been doing it and the chips may turn the warranty against me..
Hello XDA-Community!
I own an Unlocked HTC One 32 GB bought from Let's Talk HTC online dealer and shipped to US.
I have been using information from these forums ever since I ditched my old iPhone 4 to get the new Shiny HTC One. I have had it for about two months, since the beginning of may and only a couple weeks back decided to try the fun part of Android and successfully unlocked the bootloader with HTCDev, flashed a custom recovery and rooted the phone. Since then, tried a few roms and been having a blast. The only problem I had was weak battery life, but I decide to live with it and stuck with it.
Today I discovered an overlooked or recently appeared defect with this phone, and I haven't heard of other people with the same issue, but part of the screen on the sides of the phone is lifted as if it's not mounted properly and was poorly glued ( don't know how it's manufactured ). So, I'm gonna try to do a warranty claim on it as I believe should be possible with this phone. I can't and don't want to sit this problem out as it's too much as hopefully you can see.
Sorry can't post the images directly yet:
htt p://w ww.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9213961604/
htt p://w ww.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9211184769/
htt p://w ww.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9211182917/
Hopefully you can see in the links that it has risen and whenever I try to push it down it either springs back up with a clicking sound or stick for a second and then slowly rises back to that position. I think this is a bit unusual as I have not seen or heard of this complaint before.
The main Question I'm having is, how do I go from having S-off and being unlocked and rooted to completely stock, meaning S-on, stock recovery, stock rom etc.. The main reason I installed S-off is so that in case something like this happens I can reset even the "relocked" status back to "locked"in the bootloader as I understood S-off lets you achieve that. S-off was performed with Revone developer build without any issues encountered during process. I did not change/flash Hboot, CID, radios or anything to do with S-off other than removing the "Tempered" flag from the bootloader.
I have the Ruu ready and everything, but am puzzled by trying to figure out the process/order in which I should execute commands and what they shall be to achieve my goal of absolute factory stock.
If anybody has experience filing warranty claims, feel free to chip in with your experiences, troubles and processes.
Thanks to anyone that can help,
Alex
Zisilius said:
Hello XDA-Community!
I own an Unlocked HTC One 32 GB bought from Let's Talk HTC online dealer and shipped to US.
I have been using information from these forums ever since I ditched my old iPhone 4 to get the new Shiny HTC One. I have had it for about two months, since the beginning of may and only a couple weeks back decided to try the fun part of Android and successfully unlocked the bootloader with HTCDev, flashed a custom recovery and rooted the phone. Since then, tried a few roms and been having a blast. The only problem I had was weak battery life, but I decide to live with it and stuck with it.
Today I discovered an overlooked or recently appeared defect with this phone, and I haven't heard of other people with the same issue, but part of the screen on the sides of the phone is lifted as if it's not mounted properly and was poorly glued ( don't know how it's manufactured ). So, I'm gonna try to do a warranty claim on it as I believe should be possible with this phone. I can't and don't want to sit this problem out as it's too much as hopefully you can see.
Sorry can't post the images directly yet:
htt p://w ww.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9213961604/
htt p://w ww.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9211184769/
htt p://w ww.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9211182917/
Hopefully you can see in the links that it has risen and whenever I try to push it down it either springs back up with a clicking sound or stick for a second and then slowly rises back to that position. I think this is a bit unusual as I have not seen or heard of this complaint before.
The main Question I'm having is, how do I go from having S-off and being unlocked and rooted to completely stock, meaning S-on, stock recovery, stock rom etc.. The main reason I installed S-off is so that in case something like this happens I can reset even the "relocked" status back to "locked"in the bootloader as I understood S-off lets you achieve that. S-off was performed with Revone developer build without any issues encountered during process. I did not change/flash Hboot, CID, radios or anything to do with S-off other than removing the "Tempered" flag from the bootloader.
I have the Ruu ready and everything, but am puzzled by trying to figure out the process/order in which I should execute commands and what they shall be to achieve my goal of absolute factory stock.
If anybody has experience filing warranty claims, feel free to chip in with your experiences, troubles and processes.
Thanks to anyone that can help,
Alex
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Usually, as long as the defect is undeniably a hardware issue and completely unrelated to any software tampering, HTC will still honour a warranty replacement even if you have unlocked and rooted.
Before going down the road of trying to hide this (HTC will have a record of the phone’s IMEI number on the HTCDev unlocked phones list anyway) try and send this info to HTC. You may find that are happy to repair/replace it for you under warranty as it would have happened anyway even if you had left it locked down.
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Usually, as long as the defect is undeniably a hardware issue and completely unrelated to any software tampering, HTC will still honour a warranty replacement even if you have unlocked and rooted.
Before going down the road of trying to hide this (HTC will have a record of the phone’s IMEI number on the HTCDev unlocked phones list anyway) try and send this info to HTC. You may find that are happy to repair/replace it for you under warranty as it would have happened anyway even if you had left it locked down.
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Ok then, I see. I will try to do that, but would still want to know and I believe it would help other in the future to know. How can I go back to S-on and make sure it says "locked" in the bootloader instead of "relocked".
If anybody could help, would be really welcome.
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Ok then, I see. I will try to do that, but would still want to know and I believe it would help other in the future to know. How can I go back to S-on and make sure it says "locked" in the bootloader instead of "relocked".
If anybody could help, would be really welcome.
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Hey wait
Dont lose hope so early
I am here
I will help you get back to stock completely
Htc wont even say a word against you for tampering
Just do the following so that i can help you
Get in fastboot mode and in command prompt, put "fastboot getvar all"
And post the output here
I will help you
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
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Usually, as long as the defect is undeniably a hardware issue and completely unrelated to any software tampering, HTC will still honour a warranty replacement even if you have unlocked and rooted.
Before going down the road of trying to hide this (HTC will have a record of the phone’s IMEI number on the HTCDev unlocked phones list anyway) try and send this info to HTC. You may find that are happy to repair/replace it for you under warranty as it would have happened anyway even if you had left it locked down.
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Just an info:
Getting the unlock.bin from HTC Dev doesnt mean that the phone is for sure getting unlocked. So, unless and until the phone is literally unlocked, they cannot void the warranty.
yeah....i too unlocked my xperia from sony....never had a prob with warranty....I used to flash back stock rom from pc using flashtool .... You can use a similar software for htc
And @mathrania is right
The guys at service centre probably know less than you about this stuff
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Hi Guys
So, I'm going to send my phone back to HTC as it's only a little under 3 months old ... Can someone advise me on their experiences with sending back to HTC for repair in the UK? I'm on Hboot 1.54 so I'm unable to go S-Off and remove the tampered flag or change my bootloader to locked instead of relocked. I can wipe it all, flash stock ROM, install stock recovery and relock my bootloader but that's about it ... I assume it shouldn't be an issue, hopefully, as the device is faulty, not due to me unlocking the bootloader and flashing ROMs so my warranty should be ok
The guy on the phone when I booked it in said I should be fine as the issue has nothing to do with me unlocking the bootloader, but I was looking for any of your experiences in the UK
Cheers
I cannot tell you if you will have or not have a problwm but can you shate why you will return the phone ? What is the issue ?
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istoyanow said:
I cannot tell you if you will have or not have a problwm but can you shate why you will return the phone ? What is the issue ?
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The camera is faulty, it has lost focus unless you are doing a macro shot, all other shots are blurred. It also has what looks like a large area of screen bleed just at the top of the display (under the sensors and speaker grill).
hey
imalso sending mine in for a replacement now as its been in 3 times already for faulty loud speakers. each time it was returned with the same fault, they had repaired things that didnt need replacing.
anyway im also on the new hboot with android 4.2.2 installed/ i restored from backup.
im gona send mine back with a flat battery and hope they dont charge it as it has had its bootloader relocked
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hey
imalso sending mine in for a replacement now as its been in 3 times already for faulty loud speakers. each time it was returned with the same fault, they had repaired things that didnt need replacing.
anyway im also on the new hboot with android 4.2.2 installed/ i restored from backup.
im gona send mine back with a flat battery and hope they dont charge it as it has had its bootloader relocked
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Lol, I'm sure they'll be able to tell but hopefully it won't be an issue for us as they're faults not caused by unlocking the bootloader ... You say you're on your third, was your bootloader unlocked on the others you sent back?
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Lol, I'm sure they'll be able to tell but hopefully it won't be an issue for us as they're faults not caused by unlocking the bootloader ... You say you're on your third, was your bootloader unlocked on the others you sent back?
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No mate I was on the lower hboot with s-off. I relocked and romoved the re locked tag when sending it back. It came back updated.
Was in 2 minds wether to root again and unlock bootloader but I really didn't expect to have the fault again.
Can see em not exchanging now u watch
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No mate I was on the lower hboot with s-off. I relocked and romoved the re locked tag when sending it back. It came back updated.
Was in 2 minds wether to root again and unlock bootloader but I really didn't expect to have the fault again.
Can see em not exchanging now u watch
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Ahhh, hopefully it won't be a problem, if they refuse I'll not be happy because the faults have nothing to do with unlocking the bootloader so it's irrelevant ... the guy I spoke to said if they didn't do it under warranty then they'd quote me or charge me £25 to return my phone to me. that's just bo**cks tbh. I paid £489 for the phone, I've had it less than 3 months and it's faulty so me unlocking the bootloader to remove the garbage they filled my phone with is just not on.
Fingers crossed we have no issues otherwise I'll be unsure what my options are, who to complain to or whatever ... I'd certainly never buy an HTC phone again if they don't sort it out under warranty, I could understand if something I'd done had caused the screen to bleed because it's not sealed correctly under the speaker grill, or if I'd somehow damaged the camera but that's not the case.
There must be some more people on here that's sent a phone back to HTC in the UK?