Hey all, I'm looking for a program that will allow me to COMPLETELY lock my phone! I work in an area where I get up from my desk often and need to be able to lock my phone. The current program will lock it, but if the phone rings, it will show the number, etc., and allow you to answer it.
Yesterday, when I got back to my desk, someone said, "I was just coming over here to see you when your phone rang. It was your wife's picture. So I answered it for you." Now, I understand this lady's willingness to help, and she's a good friend of my wife, BUT... She wouldn't have answered if she didn't know who was calling (I told her how I didn't appreciate that BTW)!!!!
I need a program that will keep the face OFF, and the phone LOCKED, NO MATTER WHAT!!!
Is this possible?
Thanks.
Never seen any software to totally lock the phone even during an incoming call. Only software I can think of that may do a few things that you want is called "Call Hider". It's not very good though.
Simple solution: Why not just pick up the phone and take it with you when you leave your desk?
stuntdouble said:
Simple solution: Why not just pick up the phone and take it with you when you leave your desk?
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I don't have time or the brain to remember to get it each time. It's very fast-paced and most times I'm not gone very long. And, it's very heavy in my pocket and I prefer to leave it on top of my desk so that I can check texts, etc. periodically.
maiahsdad said:
I don't have time or the brain to remember to get it each time. It's very fast-paced and most times I'm not gone very long. And, it's very heavy in my pocket and I prefer to leave it on top of my desk so that I can check texts, etc. periodically.
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Maybe buying a case with a beltclip would help you out then.
One important security-related difference I have noticed after installing this ROM over the stock ROM I had:
On my stock ROM, holding down the power/sleep button on the lock screen used to do NOTHING. I had to unlock my phone (with the pattern lock) before I could power off the phone.
On this ROM, I can power off the phone even when it is locked.
If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
I'm hoping this is just an obscure setting somewhere, but I already tried checking in Settings -> Security and Settings -> Power. Can anyone give me some insight into this?
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If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
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There is a Xposed module that can be used instead of the one in this ROM that has exactly what you are concerned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2594642
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ZippyDan said:
One important security-related difference I have noticed after installing this ROM over the stock ROM I had:
On my stock ROM, holding down the power/sleep button on the lock screen used to do NOTHING. I had to unlock my phone (with the pattern lock) before I could power off the phone.
On this ROM, I can power off the phone even when it is locked.
If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
I'm hoping this is just an obscure setting somewhere, but I already tried checking in Settings -> Security and Settings -> Power. Can anyone give me some insight into this?
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if your phone is stolen, this is your friend. google.com/android/devicemanager just log in with your e-mail and you're good to go
ZippyDan said:
One important security-related difference I have noticed after installing this ROM over the stock ROM I had:
On my stock ROM, holding down the power/sleep button on the lock screen used to do NOTHING. I had to unlock my phone (with the pattern lock) before I could power off the phone.
On this ROM, I can power off the phone even when it is locked.
If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
I'm hoping this is just an obscure setting somewhere, but I already tried checking in Settings -> Security and Settings -> Power. Can anyone give me some insight into this?
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I have found avast make such an app that your after I can't get URL at the moment but search through the play store for avast rooted and stolen, I will see if I can get you a link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.avast.android.antitheft_setup
dronepro said:
if your phone is stolen, this is your friend. google.com/android/devicemanager just log in with your e-mail and you're good to go
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Didn't know about this, thanks. But it is useless if the phone is OFF (I just tested).
Madaz2 said:
I have found avast make such an app that your after I can't get URL at the moment but search through the play store for avast rooted and stolen, I will see if I can get you a link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.avast.android.antitheft_setup
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I already have a paid subscription to Avast Anti-Theft and it is installed on my rooted HTC. I appreciate the suggestion but you are entirely missing my point. It is BECAUSE I have installed tracking software on my phone that I am so concerned about someone being able to turn off the phone at the lockscreen. Avast is slightly more useful than the google device manager because it can keep a historical record of where your phone has been, but it is still not very useful in finding a stolen phone if the phone is OFF and not transmitting current data about where the phone is!!
Thela7 said:
There is a Xposed module that can be used instead of the one in this ROM that has exactly what you are concerned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2594642
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This looks good, but I am left uncertain about whether it would work on this phone. Browsing the thread reveals this information:
Confirmed Working Devices/Firmwares
HTC devices: HTC One X 4.2.2 stock Rom with Sense 5
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Promising, except we are on 4.4 now. And the thread also indicates there were problems getting it working with Sony devices after 4.3 which had to be fixed in a separate mod. I also see this note:
A user has reported that sound options disappear when using this mod on HTC One. I currently have no idea why this happens, and I'm too busy to figure it out at this moment. Sorry.
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I already have a paid subscription to Avast Anti-Theft and it is installed on my rooted HTC. I appreciate the suggestion but you are entirely missing my point. It is BECAUSE I have installed tracking software on my phone that I am so concerned about someone being able to turn off the phone at the lockscreen. Avast is slightly more useful than the google device manager because it can keep a historical record of where your phone has been, but it is still not very useful in finding a stolen phone if the phone is OFF and not transmitting current data about where the phone is!!
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yeah, but IF you have lost or had your phone stolen i was pretty sure if they take out your sim and put in a new one the phone will go into stolen mode and features will be disabled
Madaz2 said:
yeah, but IF you have lost or had your phone stolen i was pretty sure if they take out your sim and put in a new one the phone will go into stolen mode and features will be disabled
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I'm not worried about that. In my opinion, the first few hours after a theft are the most crucial (in fact, the first hour while he is escaping to his den). What I'm worried about is the thief IMMEDIATELY turning off the phone after it gets stolen, and then having the phone wiped at his leisure.
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I'm not worried about that. In my opinion, the first few hours after a theft are the most crucial (in fact, the first hour while he is escaping to his den). What I'm worried about is the thief IMMEDIATELY turning off the phone after it gets stolen, and then having the phone wiped at his leisure.
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What if the thief just turns airplane mode on? Does avast override it?
ZippyDan said:
One important security-related difference I have noticed after installing this ROM over the stock ROM I had:
On my stock ROM, holding down the power/sleep button on the lock screen used to do NOTHING. I had to unlock my phone (with the pattern lock) before I could power off the phone.
On this ROM, I can power off the phone even when it is locked.
If a thief steals my phone, I want to be able to track them as long as possible. As the HTC One does not have an easily removable battery, they would not be able to power off the phone or its data connection with my lockscreen password. On this ROM, that security feature is gone.
I'm hoping this is just an obscure setting somewhere, but I already tried checking in Settings -> Security and Settings -> Power. Can anyone give me some insight into this?
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Holding down the power button for 10 seconds will always simulate a battery pull on the one whatever lock screen you have.
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Holding down the power button for 10 seconds will always simulate a battery pull on the one whatever lock screen you have.
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then pray that the thief doesn't know about this :silly:
But yea, I think it's important to have long-press power button disabled when the phone is locked.
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Promising, except we are on 4.4 now. And the thread also indicates there were problems getting it working with Sony devices after 4.3 which had to be fixed in a separate mod. I also see this note:
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Ah k. Yeah, I'm still using 4.3 so I don't know about if it works on KitKat.
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ZippyDan said:
Didn't know about this, thanks. But it is useless if the phone is OFF (I just tested).
I already have a paid subscription to Avast Anti-Theft and it is installed on my rooted HTC. I appreciate the suggestion but you are entirely missing my point. It is BECAUSE I have installed tracking software on my phone that I am so concerned about someone being able to turn off the phone at the lockscreen. Avast is slightly more useful than the google device manager because it can keep a historical record of where your phone has been, but it is still not very useful in finding a stolen phone if the phone is OFF and not transmitting current data about where the phone is!!
This looks good, but I am left uncertain about whether it would work on this phone. Browsing the thread reveals this information:
Promising, except we are on 4.4 now. And the thread also indicates there were problems getting it working with Sony devices after 4.3 which had to be fixed in a separate mod. I also see this note:
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I am not aware of anything that can be helpful if your phone is off... Every app or software will require a satellite or cell tower ak or echo request in order to find your phone. if you can find anything that magically can turn your powered off device on and you're able to track, lock or delete it, I think the entire community will love you
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I am not aware of anything that can be helpful if your phone is off... Every app or software will require a satellite or cell tower ak or echo request in order to find your phone. if you can find anything that magically can turn your powered off device on and you're able to track, lock or delete it, I think the entire community will love you
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I don't know how you guys keep misinterpreting me I know nothing is useful when the phone is turned off. This is exactly why I am so eager to make sure it is impossible or at least more difficult for a thief to turn off my phone from the lockscreen, so that it STAYS ON so that I can track it.
ZippyDan said:
I don't know how you guys keep misinterpreting me I know nothing is useful when the phone is turned off. This is exactly why I am so eager to make sure it is impossible or at least more difficult for a thief to turn off my phone from the lockscreen, so that it STAYS ON so that I can track it.
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Ah I see, it's my understanding that holding the power button for about 15-30 seconds will power off your device no matter what. As sad as that is, I think it should be that way because if for any reason your phone locks up while asleep and you cannot wake it up, you should be able to turn it off. otherwise, if it gets stolen and the thief cannot turn it off, simply removing the SIM card will render any security feature useless until the phone battery is fully discharged and he can charge, enter recovery and wipe it...
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What if the thief just turns airplane mode on? Does avast override it?
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Avast does have an option (only when rooted I believe) to automatically activate WiFi and Cellular data even if turned off.
Of course, if you have a lockscreen this does not even matter as they would not be able to turn it off.
There is another option to have the device automatically search for open WiFi's and join automatically. I'm not sure if this is part of Avast or AndroidLost as I have both installed.
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Holding down the power button for 10 seconds will always simulate a battery pull on the one whatever lock screen you have.
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If this 10-second press is a hardware-limitation (as in there is no way for a ROM to override this), then so be it. But I would like that to be confirmed.
But what I am mainly asking for, at the very least, is that the 3 or 4 second power button hold be disabled when on the lockscreen. I know for sure that this has changed from whichever stock version I was running to this latest Revolution ROM I am running now.
10-seconds is a long time to hold the power button, and as a thief may not know about this feature (and it might be different for every brand or model), they might give up before they hit the 10-second mark. For example, I think the Sleep + Home button hard reset for the iPhone is much more widely known, but it also requires only like 5 or 6 seconds of holding.
ZippyDan said:
If this 10-second press is a hardware-limitation (as in there is no way for a ROM to override this), then so be it. But I would like that to be confirmed.
But what I am mainly asking for, at the very least, is that the 3 or 4 second power button hold be disabled when on the lockscreen. I know for sure that this has changed from whichever stock version I was running to this latest Revolution ROM I am running now.
10-seconds is a long time to hold the power button, and as a thief may not know about this feature (and it might be different for every brand or model), they might give up before they hit the 10-second mark. For example, I think the Sleep + Home button hard reset for the iPhone is much more widely known, but it also requires only like 5 or 6 seconds of holding.
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The 10-second press is a hardware thing. All HTC One's have it, regardless of what model. This is because of the non-removable battery, so that you can simulate a battery pull should need be, as mentioned already. I'm sorry, there is no way around this. And trust me, you would rather have that feature should your phone become unresponsive. THAT is more likely to happen than a thief stealing a phone. The only times I've ever heard of someone stealing a phone is when someone is careless with where they leave their device. Just be cautious and don't leave it in stupid places. Simple.
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The 10-second press is a hardware thing. All HTC One's have it, regardless of what model. This is because of the non-removable battery, so that you can simulate a battery pull should need be, as mentioned already. I'm sorry, there is no way around this. And trust me, you would rather have that feature should your phone become unresponsive. THAT is more likely to happen than a thief stealing a phone. The only times I've ever heard of someone stealing a phone is when someone is careless with where they leave their device. Just be cautious and don't leave it in stupid places. Simple.
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Well put.
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The 10-second press is a hardware thing. All HTC One's have it, regardless of what model. This is because of the non-removable battery, so that you can simulate a battery pull should need be, as mentioned already. I'm sorry, there is no way around this. And trust me, you would rather have that feature should your phone become unresponsive. THAT is more likely to happen than a thief stealing a phone. The only times I've ever heard of someone stealing a phone is when someone is careless with where they leave their device. Just be cautious and don't leave it in stupid places. Simple.
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Well put.
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Terribly put. I accept the 10-second press. Let me return to my original concern which is the much shorter 3 - 5 second which now allows the phone to be turned off from the lockscreen with an on-screen menu. I would like that gone.
The second part of the post is uninformed at best or arrogant at worst. The OP is probably speaking from the point of view of a first-world resident.
I live in a third-world country. I have had a iPhone 5 that was stolen from me by two men wearing helmets who drove an untagged motorcycle onto a sidewalk just to snatch the phone out of my hand. On a public bus, I was sandwiched by 3 men just so that one could pickpocket my HTC Desire (a 3-year old backup phone) from behind. When I confronted them, I was punched and left bloody so I let them go (valuing my life over a phone).
I have another friend who has lost two iPhone 5's. Once, she was pickpocketed in a crowded mall. Another time, she was walking on the street near a public metro station with her phone clutched to her chest. A man grabbed her arm as she was passing and threw her to the ground. Afterwards he ran across a busy divided highway into a slum area.
I just met a foreigner here who was riding in the back seat of a taxi while using his Galaxy S4. The taxi suddenly stopped and two men armed with guns and knives jumped into the taxi from both sides. The taxi then continued moving. His quick reactions allowed him to escape by jumping out a window while the taxi was moving. He showed me his scrapes and bruises. Unfortunately, he had to leave the phone behind, but he may have avoided being kidnapped.
I have another friend who has a brother whose entire bus was robbed of their phones at gunpoint.
I could go on. All of these instances have occurred in both poor and very nice areas, and the nature of this country is that utter poverty and extravagant wealth are often located side by side. It might sound like a hellhole, but most days are perfectly normal, and some are wonderful, even in a third-world country. You learn to live with the badness, but it still makes sense to take proactive measures just in case.
There are other measures I can take as well: I usually use a much cheaper "decoy" phone in public. I try to ride the metro more than taxis and taxis more than buses. I try to always keep my valuables in a bag in front of me instead of in my pockets. When riding a taxi, I try to always make a note of the taxi number and lock all the doors from the inside. But you can't seriously blow me off and tell me to be 100% vigilant all the time. Sometimes I forget one of these precautions because I am in a rush or my mind is preoccupied with other things. And the nature of the modern world dictates that I use my phone constantly throughout the day, for both professional and social reasons, just as I am sure you do.
The fact is the probability that my phone will get stolen here is much higher than in other places, even if I am not careless with where I leave the phone, because people are seeking to actively rob others, and it is extremely unrealistic to expect that I keep my guard up 100% of the time.
Additionally, my work involves frequent travel, and requires me to do lots of work and communication on the internet. Therefore, a fast, powerful smartphone is a necessity for me to put bread in my mouth.
Now, you may understand why my perspective is that the security features on my costly and essential phone are so important. Your perspective is probably from some rich, relatively safe country in Europe, the USA, or Asia. I hope I have educated you on the fact that the world does not revolve around your socioeconomic situation.
I will be honest and say that your post irritated me, but I have tried to keep my post civil and explain why your response is pretentious and insulated idealism. If you still want to lecture me from your world about how I can magically solve the problems of my very different and more dangerous world by simply being "cautious", I will have just two very small words to gift you.
Good God, can we please stay on topic of this fantastic Rom and what's coming soon?!
If you have issues with how HTC have developed their phone, please take it to the Questions & Answers section ?
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Guys, I have a problem with my HTC One M7. Phone is an AT&T phone however it's off contract (on AIO/Cricket) and has been S-OFF'ed, flashed to 4.4.4 with TWRP, etc.
I was commuting home from work on my motorcycle yesterday and got caught in rain/hail. Long story short, I was drenched by the time I got home and my phone got wet.
It's been in a bag of rice since I got home at 6:30PM.
From about 6:30-7:30PM the phones screen was black, but I heard the severe weather warning going off a few times. Then, from 7:30PM till about 1AM, it was in a reboot loop. I tried getting into recovery, etc. with no luck (as soon as I VOL DOWN to go to Recovery from Fastboot, it reboots) At that point, I went to bed so I don't know what it did all night.
Needless to say, this is my last HTC device unless they started making phones with removable batteries again. Regardless of what happens with this phone, I'm going to buy an LG G3 from T-Mobile today off contract.
I don't care what happens with this phone, but my issue or help request is: how do I get it to stay on so I can get my data off? That's the ONLY thing I am concerned with at this point.
IlyaKol said:
I was commuting home from work on my motorcycle yesterday and got caught in rain/hail. Long story short, I was drenched by the time I got home and my phone got wet.
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Ok let me understand... because the phone got wet and now it refuse to boot, you are saying:
Needless to say, this is my last HTC device unless they started making phones with removable batteries again
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the phone hardware was damaged with water, not related to the non-removable battery...
I don't care what happens with this phone, but my issue or help request is: how do I get it to stay on so I can get my data off? That's the ONLY thing I am concerned with at this point.
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Water damaged the phone, if it can't boot its probably an hardware problem and unless you replace the defective component, there is no way to make it boot and backup your data. You should consider making backups of your data on your pc each weeks/months (depending on your needs) with you future phone so if something happen, you'll be able to recover almost everything. Unfortunately you did not and you lost everything, sorry.
I know its frustrating but
the phone got wet by the user fault
data was lost because the user omitted to make backups
So I dont think HTC is to blame here...
keep you phone in some sort of desiccant or even in a bag of rice like you did and hopefully it will be able to boot someday.
My point about the battery was that the phone is a sealed unit and thus I can't get to ANY of the internals without doing some serious taking-apart-this-POS work (which I'm probably going to do now that I have my new phone). If the phone had a removable battery, I'd be able to dry the internals a bit more manually with a cotton q-tip, etc.
The other reason why I mention that I'll never get another phone without a removable battery is because there is NO WAY to stop the phone from rebooting other than letting it die. You know how long it took for the phone to die (I keep it on charge all day)? I literally had to put it in the other room under a pillow to f'in shut that thing up. It went on and on for HOURS.
And thanks for stating the obvious...lol.
Btw, this new LG G3 is SUHWEET.
This might be completely impossible but basically I'm trying to make it as difficult as possible for someone to shut down the phone without entering a passcode (I have an HTC m8 so they can't pull the battery).
There's apps that will prevent someone from using the shut down menu but that doesn't solve the issue of a hard reset. I'm aware you can reconfigure what the buttons do when using the phone but I'm skeptical if that will effect it on that low of a level.
So is there any way at all to completely reconfigure the switches or is that basically built into the hardware? I looked around and haven't found much.
I know this is probably a stupid question but it's worth a shot. I can turn on the screen in many other ways so I'm not too worried about that.
First, this is the M7 forum.
Second, I doubt it. I am pretty sure that the hard reset functionality is hardwired or at least coded into hboot, otherwise it wouldn't be much good for rescuing a frozen phone. Why would you want that anyway? What do you plan to do if the phone freezes up?
iElvis said:
First, this is the M7 forum.
Second, I doubt it. I am pretty sure that the hard reset functionality is hardwired or at least coded into hboot, otherwise it wouldn't be much good for rescuing a frozen phone. Why would you want that anyway? What do you plan to do if the phone freezes up?
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Doh! You're right, sorry for posting in the wrong place. I was at work and rushing to type this all up on my break.
You're wrong though, I found a solution. It's called Xposed Additions. And yea if my phone freezes up I basically have to wait until it dies. I'm willing to deal with that. I've had several phones stolen so now I have a phone that can not be shut off, can be tracked through GPS remotely, can take pictures remotely, and can listen to the microphone remotely.
Steal my **** again you lazy assholes. See what happens >
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Doh! You're right, sorry for posting in the wrong place. I was at work and rushing to type this all up on my break.
You're wrong though, I found a solution. It's called Xposed Additions. And yea if my phone freezes up I basically have to wait until it dies. I'm willing to deal with that. I've had several phones stolen so now I have a phone that can not be shut off, can be tracked through GPS remotely, can take pictures remotely, and can listen to the microphone remotely.
Steal my **** again you lazy assholes. See what happens >
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Make sure USB debugging is disabled also or adb could be used to bypass lock or reboot to bootloader.. [emoji14]
tstanley0426 said:
You're wrong though, I found a solution. It's called Xposed Additions. And yea if my phone freezes up I basically have to wait until it dies. I'm willing to deal with that. I've had several phones stolen so now I have a phone that can not be shut off, can be tracked through GPS remotely, can take pictures remotely, and can listen to the microphone remotely.
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That is interesting. I wonder, though, if it truly disables the (hypothetical) hardware/hboot level controls should the phone freeze up, since Xposed would no longer be running.
Hi, my SM-N960UZKATMB somehow disappeared. It had like 50% battery at 6:30am this morning MST. It is setup to secure startup, and has a screen lock. Mobile data is turned off, but wifi is on. I have its last location when I was connected to a wifi network yesterday at like 9:30pm MST using google find my mobile. After that it never was connected to the internet seemingly, or didn't pickup any internet signal.
Can you think of what the person that took it could do?
Call the police and the bus company.
If not returned have the imei blacklisted.
Unfortunately physical possession is everything... keep phones stashed when out and about. When not using put in pocket, out of sight. Avoid flashing phones in public, it signals that you are distracted.
Stay in real world mode unless in a safe spot. It may save your life someday. 99.99% of the time is same-same boring; it's the .01% that requires your ever present vigilance as it's a stone cold killer.
blackhawk said:
Call the police and the bus company.
If not returned have the imei blacklisted.
Unfortunately physical possession is everything... keep phones stashed when out and about. When not using put in pocket, out of sight. Avoid flashing phones in public, it signals that you are distracted.
Stay in real world mode unless in a safe spot. It may save your life someday. 99.99% of the time is same-same boring; it's the .01% that requires your ever present vigilance as it's a stone cold killer.
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Can the person get into recovery?
Has there been success rooting that particular note 9, latest security patch?
Does rooting allow access to recovery?
If the person roots it, then somehow factory resets it, is the google password for the account on the phone still required?