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I cannot seem to send sms messages when I install handcent on this phone. Mms work fine, and I can receive all day. Not sure why, has anyone else seen this?
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that's interesting cuz i was having similar issues as well.. not all the time, but just had that first occurence yesterday. Have you tried sending a message and waiting for the "spinning" timer disappear before exiting the convo?
I have used handcent since day one with the phone and have had no issues. Im not sure what may be wrong with yours but maybe wait until the circle stops spinning like ^^ said
ckochinsky125 said:
I have used handcent since day one with the phone and have had no issues. Im not sure what may be wrong with yours but maybe wait until the circle stops spinning like ^^ said
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Yeah, I have. It works fine on my gf fascinate, but not mine. Funny thing is, I've gone all the way back to stock and still won't work. Maybe a network profile thing.
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I have a similar problem except SMS works fine for me but I cannot receive MMS messages. I can send MMS fine though... I hope 2.2 will fix it.
Daswolven,
Aren't you the same person that posted that thread about removing junk apps? I think some of those VZWSMS apk's you deleted might be affecting your ability to text because I removed everything VZW.apk and had too many issues with texting such as receiving the same message 30x's, people receiving an error message saying I never received their message even though I did, etc... So I reflashed an ODIN file and only removed the obvious apps such as Bing, Blockbuster,etc. Phone has been perfect with handcent since then. The stock messaging app will not tell you which exact message failed to be sent which is why I went with handcent.
ithecho84 ,
Contact tech support and have the "flush" out your cell number. I had the same problem with my DROID and they did something to the switch in the network and I have never had an issue with MMS ever again.
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Daswolven,
Aren't you the same person that posted that thread about removing junk apps? I think some of those VZWSMS apk's you deleted might be affecting your ability to text because I removed everything VZW.apk and had too many issues with texting such as receiving the same message 30x's, people receiving an error message saying I never received their message even though I did, etc... So I reflashed an ODIN file and only removed the obvious apps such as Bing, Blockbuster,etc. Phone has been perfect with handcent since then. The stock messaging app will not tell you which exact message failed to be sent which is why I went with handcent.
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I am the same person.
I also know exactly what the apps I remove do.
None of the apps I removed affect sms to cause the issues I am having.
My g/f has the same phone. I have removed the same apps on hers, she doesn't have the issues.
I have a buddy with a droid incredible on CM6, he flashed a new radio and couldn't text his GF, but only her.
I have another friend with a Droid2 who cannot use handcent.
The handcent boards have posts from people on every network with various phone who have various issues.
I never had a problem with handcent on my N1.
So then, Mr. Logic boy. Put that together for me with the pieces I have given you.
let me know what you come up with.
P.S.: You may have missed the "I went back to stock and it still didn't work" part of This Thread.
Make sure the stock Mms.apk app is there, reboot and give it a try. I also saw a few days ago you moved the sns apps off - out of curiosity, do you know what these do? For some reason I left them in there. I know you said you went back to stock and all, but I had some issues when I tried to get rid of the stock Mms.apk. That's all I can think of. Outside of that, try doing a logcat while sending a text to see what the logs say.
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Make sure the stock Mms.apk app is there, reboot and give it a try. I also saw a few days ago you moved the sns apps off - out of curiosity, do you know what these do? For some reason I left them in there. I know you said you went back to stock and all, but I had some issues when I tried to get rid of the stock Mms.apk. That's all I can think of. Outside of that, try doing a logcat while sending a text to see what the logs say.
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The sns enable the syncing with the integrated Twitter, Facebook, and Myspace clients into your address book and the TouchWiz widgets. I have no use for these, as to me it's unnecessary contact clutter, and sync drain to boot.
The stock Mms app can be replaced, and has been, but I use the stock for the ability to select multiple recipients which is absent in the Android stock mms.
I haven't figured out all the differences between the Verizon and T-mo network stuff yet, but I will do some research as I have time, because I am 90% sure my problem lies there. The tech support I've been able to get through to seems uninterested in any kind of in depth troubleshooting, instead urging me to replace the handset, which I will not do.
I had same issue and I uninstall and put it back without using the back up data from a back up . Worked great .
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If you look at your contacts and see an + in front Example (+1-555-555-5555) it will not send. Im coming from GSM service so I had to re-edit all my contacts and remove all the + symbol from the front. It worked for me. Hope this helps with any SMS issues not just directly to Handcent.
rolo12010 said:
If you look at your contacts and see an + in front Example (+1-555-555-5555) it will not send. Im coming from GSM service so I had to re-edit all my contacts and remove all the + symbol from the front. It worked for me. Hope this helps with any SMS issues not just directly to Handcent.
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OMG.
I hate when something that drives you completely crazy is this simple.
Why in the hell doesn't Verizon know this? ha. Thanx.
Daswolven said:
I cannot seem to send sms messages when I install handcent on this phone. Mms work fine, and I can receive all day. Not sure why, has anyone else seen this?
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I was wondering if you resolved your problem with Handcent? I have a problem now where if I try and attach a picture to a mms directly from the camera Handcent force closes. I tried the same thing with the stock MMS and same result. I went to Rom Manager and downloaded the MMS.apk for the ROM that I am running. I tried it again on Handcent, same result, but I was able to do it from the stock MMS I downloaded. I personally like all the options that Handcent has and would like to know if you have any suggestions regarding my problem.
Yeppers. Whatever the issue was stopped after I changed my methods of building from stock a bit.
Never managed to pin point it.
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I'm confused by the notes about the "+" in front of phone numbers? Why would you have a "+" like that, and what does that have to do with GSM? Furthermore, can you send a text to these numbers with the stock Messaging app, but NOT Handcent? Or does it work in neither? Thanks.
If you find a specific, reproduceable issue with Handcent though, especially if you know the cause, let me know if you want, because I've been working with one of the developers (or the developer, I'm not sure) - Jack, directly and frequently. I'm the one that cleaned up the Handcent forums to get rid of all the spam threads/users recently (if you've ever been there, you'll know how horrible it was prior), and helped him get it changed over to SMF from phpbb2, etc. I'm also a mod on the forums there, and I've been testing a few bugs directly with him, on beta builds of Handcent. So I can certainly bring something to his attention directly if it warrants it.
I've noticed that I get a lot of duplicate texts or they are out of sync when coming in and just curious if anyone else is seeing this?
I'm currently on my own ROM but noticed this on full stock as well.
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+1 on duplicate texts. Also noticed when I get a reply in the same minute it lists above the original text
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Just an AT&T thing, methinks.
I've always had this, even when I was back on the LG Shine.
Same here. What SMS app are you all using? Go SMS here
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I usally get duplicates when I'm texting someone using a iPhone, out of sync happens when your having a fast paced text convo , notice it mostly happens texting a blackberry, with that said I don't have the sync issue much anymore but 6 months ago when everyone still had a bb it was out of control
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It happened most when it's within same minute but there's plenty of times where it could be 5 minutes between and I'll get duplicate texts that come in. It's pretty annoying. And I'm just using stock messaging app.
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I'm on the Rogers network here in Canada and I have noticed that as well. I thought maybe it was just the provider, but it may be a system issue. I'm just using the stock messages app that comes with the ROM. I have chompSMS installed as it sorts the message better than the stock app.
There's no fix for this yet, I've searched already. I think is related to the new pta lte apn since I didn't have the problem before on hspa...
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I have the same issue, but I've had it since I got the Vivid back in November. I just assumed it was an AT&T network issue, but I never had that problem before with other phones. Hearing that it happens with the Raider in Canada makes me wonder if it's something in the phone itself and the way it pulls messages from the network.
I'm not 100% sure of this (just a hunch) but I'm wondering if it has something to do with the NTP servers that HTC has the device set to sync with to get the time (or the method that it gets the current time from the cell network).
It would appear that the clock is just a few seconds behind everyone else's...
I suppose I'll take a look at it here shortly, since this has been happening to me since day 0 of owning this phone and it's quite annoying...
try using this to assign the correct time for w when the messages come through
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sms-time-fix/com.mattprecious.smsfix
Yeah, Ive noticed the exact same thing. If you get a message in the same minute as the one you sent it puts the new message you received above the one you sent. Ive also noticed duplicate messages from people as well, thought it was just them, but when it was mentioned about the duplicate messages coming from iPhone users, that sounds right. Does anyone see any fixes coming anytime soon? Forgot to mention that im completely stock right now, using the stock SMS app. Haven't unlocked the bootloader, rooted, or put a custom rom on it yet.
try using the link from the above post, let me know if you have any success
This issue has been driving me nuts. Sometimes I get the same text three times in a row. And sometimes every single text I get is duplicated. I have unlimited texts, but it's annoying and it shouldn't happen. I'm using stock ROM and stock messaging app and I seriously doubt any other app will resolve this. It's either something specific to Sense, or it's the LTE.
Either way, I wish they would fix it. If I didn't like the phone so much, I would have taken it back over this.
davidcampbell said:
try using this to assign the correct time for w when the messages come through
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sms-time-fix/com.mattprecious.smsfix
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Thanks for the link. App is downloading as we speak...
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I seriously doubt any other app will resolve this.
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If you simply follow the link, you will see that it is a timing correction app. Not an alternate messaging app.
All "messaging" app's on android utilize the same central database for text message storage, this app runs in the background and detects incomming messages, it then corrects the time on the message as it comes in to reflect the local time on the device, therefor correcting time sync issues. It is a common problem for many mobile devices and there are many apps that resolve the same issue.
This has happened on a large number of devices for a very long time. The root cause is often the time servers in use by either the sending or recieving ISP. The problem can be intermittant as often service providers utilize multiple servers operating in tandem, this same tandem issue can also cause the mutlple messages.
Please take my advice and try the app & hit the thanks button if it helps you
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If you simply follow the link, you will see that it is a timing correction app. Not an alternate messaging app.
All "messaging" app's on android utilize the same central database for text message storage, this app runs in the background and detects incomming messages, it then corrects the time on the message as it comes in to reflect the local time on the device, therefor correcting time sync issues. It is a common problem for many mobile devices and there are many apps that resolve the same issue.
This has happened on a large number of devices for a very long time. The root cause is often the time servers in use by either the sending or recieving ISP. The problem can be intermittant as often service providers utilize multiple servers operating in tandem, this same tandem issue can also cause the mutlple messages.
Please take my advice and try the app & hit the thanks button if it helps you
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Will try the app you linked to. Found the exact app in the Android Market since I didn't have AppBrain...
davidcampbell said:
If you simply follow the link, you will see that it is a timing correction app. Not an alternate messaging app.
All "messaging" app's on android utilize the same central database for text message storage, this app runs in the background and detects incomming messages, it then corrects the time on the message as it comes in to reflect the local time on the device, therefor correcting time sync issues. It is a common problem for many mobile devices and there are many apps that resolve the same issue.
This has happened on a large number of devices for a very long time. The root cause is often the time servers in use by either the sending or recieving ISP. The problem can be intermittant as often service providers utilize multiple servers operating in tandem, this same tandem issue can also cause the mutlple messages.
Please take my advice and try the app & hit the thanks button if it helps you
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Ive been using the app for a little while now, and it seems to have fixed the problem. All my messages have been in the correct order so far. Is this app supposed to fix the duplicate text problem too or just the issue with the time stamp? I havent gotten any duplicate text since I started using it, but I wasnt sure if it was because of the app or if Ive just been lucky.
I have been having the same problem as this as well. It's super annoying, especially since I tend to have fast paced conversations, so my texts are always out of order. And every time I get a duplicate text message, my phone vibrates or rings again, which is really irritating since there isn't actually a new message.
I noticed this happened on the stock messaging app, and a while ago I switched to Go SMS. I didn't seem to have nearly as many problems with texts being out of order or receiving duplicate texts. In fact, it seemed to go away almost completely with Go SMS. But while using Go SMS, my friends told me that about every 3 text messages, they would receive the same text from me anywhere from 2 to 6 times. That was ridiculous! I loved Go SMS, but I had to switch back to stock because of the repeated text sending, even though now I have to deal with the duplicates on my end.
Devin.Morris.007 said:
Ive been using the app for a little while now, and it seems to have fixed the problem. All my messages have been in the correct order so far. Is this app supposed to fix the duplicate text problem too or just the issue with the time stamp? I havent gotten any duplicate text since I started using it, but I wasnt sure if it was because of the app or if Ive just been lucky.
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I beleive that it identifies incomming messages and drops the text if it is a duplicate, but you would need to contact the developer, I'm just a google search user
So I somehow borked messaging on my phone. Only it's deeper than that. Let's rewind a bit, shall we?
So about a week and a half ago, I started experimenting with different popup programs for SMS/MMS messages, since I'm not a big fan of how laggy chat heads can be with FB Messenger. I went through app after app comparing features until I settled on Glowfly. Everything seemed to be working fine until my sister tried to message me and my parents. It looked to me like she had just messaged me individually, and when I tried to send out a new group message with them all in it, I noticed it sent separate SMS messages to each person instead of a group MMS. And they didn't receive as a group message; it was all individual messages to them too. My first reaction was to uninstall Glowfly, but the damage was done. No matter what I've tried, this issue is persisting. I don't know if something messed up MMS settings on the network for me, or what, but even wiping and doing a clean install of roms (both stock and Sense) have the exact same issue, even if I don't restore anything with TIBU or install anything at all. The only thing I can think is that maybe it's pulling wrong MMS settings from Google, or it's something on the network acting screwy, but no one else is having this issue. Oh, and here's the weirdest part: I can still get MMS messages with pictures. So MMS is not flat-out broken. I just don't understand how it can persist through wipes and clean installs. Anyway, does anyone have any idea what could be happening?
Its not MMS, its not an included feature in 4.1, it got added in 4.2. Try Textra. Its in the play store. Has popups and group messaging built in. Super clean and stable texting app. My wife and mom have been using it on their firsts, and have had no issues at all. Hope that helps.
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I've been having a lot of problems with MMS since picking up the Active and switching to AT&T.
I usually use Handcent, but right now it's pretty worthless when it comes to group messages or receiving a picture. in both the stock messaging app and Handcent settings I have it set to group messages, and to automatically download. when I receive an MMS, though, I still have to click on download (and they won't download at all in Handcent even after clicking).
say I receive a group text from someone and 3 other people respond. both apps now display 4 different entries, one for each person. if I open each individual's thread and click download (again just in the stock app) the messages will be removed from that individual's thread and then be added to a group thread.
this is pretty frustrating, and I really want it solved. is this an AT&T issue (I was on VZW riding the Droid train before) or something with the phone?
a little update on this:
sending of MMS is also way less than ideal, either not sending at all, or taking a really really long time. I tried to send a picture earlier and it took 40 minutes before it finally went through. my searching of the interwebs leads me to believe it's perhaps an APN issue? it would be strange if the default settings out of the box prevent it from working, though. anyone else have an issue with this?
MMS is horrible for me on Handcent, too. I have to open the stock Messaging app just to download an MMS and sometimes that doesn't work, either. I also tried AT&T Messages, but it won't ever even setup correctly.
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I'm not sure if this is a moto X specific thing, but I've not had this problem on my previous phones.
So I noticed when I send a MMS to a friend (i'm on t-mobile , he's also on t-mobile with an htc one though i'm doubing that matter) he says it will say the image is too big and can't be sent or something like that. or that it can't be received.
I google about this a bit, and i saw a little bit of talk of it being a bug in the phone, and that you can't send MMS when on wifi but it would work when not on wifi (not sure how that makes any sense either). I saw some other posts about how if you send a message attached via gmail THEN send an MMS then MMS would start working , which also makes no sense to me as that seems so unrelated.
So previous to this phone i had a droid razr m (was on verizon before and even unlocked it for t-mobile for a bit) and i remember on that phone, when i sent an mms, sometimes the phone would say somethign like "this image will be resized before sending". the moto X never says that so is that a bug in the moto x? since i know that is an MMS size limit, but this phone never seems to prompt to resize.
anyway has anyone else had this issue?
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I'm not sure if this is a moto X specific thing, but I've not had this problem on my previous phones.
So I noticed when I send a MMS to a friend (i'm on t-mobile , he's also on t-mobile with an htc one though i'm doubing that matter) he says it will say the image is too big and can't be sent or something like that. or that it can't be received.
I google about this a bit, and i saw a little bit of talk of it being a bug in the phone, and that you can't send MMS when on wifi but it would work when not on wifi (not sure how that makes any sense either). I saw some other posts about how if you send a message attached via gmail THEN send an MMS then MMS would start working , which also makes no sense to me as that seems so unrelated.
So previous to this phone i had a droid razr m (was on verizon before and even unlocked it for t-mobile for a bit) and i remember on that phone, when i sent an mms, sometimes the phone would say somethign like "this image will be resized before sending". the moto X never says that so is that a bug in the moto x? since i know that is an MMS size limit, but this phone never seems to prompt to resize.
anyway has anyone else had this issue?
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YES, I have the same issue as well! Finally I found someone else that has the same problem as me haha.
When I first got my Moto X it worked just fine but recently I tried sending pictures to friends who also have T-Mobile and they all say that they can't see the picture because it says it is "too big", so along the same lines as the problem that you're having.
I going to call T-Mobile tomorrow and see if its maybe something on their side because when I check the details of the picture/message I sent, the size of the picture is under 1000KB (1000KB = 1MB which is the limit for sending MMS through T-Mobile, anything over 1MB gets stopped on their network).
Quick update:
I called T-Mobile an a representative told me that there were two ways of sending an MMS, specifically a picture, with the Moto X:
1. Stock Messaging App > Thread > Attach(Paper Clip icon) > Pictures. Then you select a picture from your gallery
2. Stock Messaging App > Thread > Attach(Paper Clip icon) > Capture Picture.
With the representative on the line, we tried both ways and figured out that option 1. works while 2. does not.
The conclusion that we came to is that if you capture a picture immediately, then it takes a full size picture and DOES NOT re-size it for MMS at all. HOWEVER, if you take a picture beforehand and then add it to a message from the gallery, it DOES re-size it.
I plan to call Motorola tomorrow and tell them about this issue so that hopefully they can either send out a fix or add it to an overall OTA update.
Hopefully I can contribute something to this forum haha :laugh:
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Quick update:
I called T-Mobile an a representative told me that there were two ways of sending an MMS, specifically a picture, with the Moto X:
1. Stock Messaging App > Thread > Attach(Paper Clip icon) > Pictures. Then you select a picture from your gallery
2. Stock Messaging App > Thread > Attach(Paper Clip icon) > Capture Picture.
With the representative on the line, we tried both ways and figured out that option 1. works while 2. does not.
The conclusion that we came to is that if you capture a picture immediately, then it takes a full size picture and DOES NOT re-size it for MMS at all. HOWEVER, if you take a picture beforehand and then add it to a message from the gallery, it DOES re-size it.
I plan to call Motorola tomorrow and tell them about this issue so that hopefully they can either send out a fix or add it to an overall OTA update.
Hopefully I can contribute something to this forum haha :laugh:
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If I may ask..what r u using to msg? Stock message app.. Or something else?
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Same Issue
xpsychox said:
If I may ask..what r u using to msg? Stock message app.. Or something else?
Slapped my Moto
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Same issue here. I am using the stock messaging app. I am on Verizon and am having trouble sending to T-Mobile. Haven't tried to other Verizon phones yet. I tried it over hangouts and had no issues, but then again Hangouts is using wifi.. Please let me know if you guys figure this one out!
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Same issue here. I am using the stock messaging app. I am on Verizon and am having trouble sending to T-Mobile. Haven't tried to other Verizon phones yet. I tried it over hangouts and had no issues, but then again Hangouts is using wifi.. Please let me know if you guys figure this one out!
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I use handcent and don't have an issue.. I like the app 1000% better than stock...try it out... See if it ur phone or just the stock app.
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I use handcent and don't have an issue.. I like the app 1000% better than stock...try it out... See if it ur phone or just the stock app.
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Eh, I've tried that and GO sms app and multiple other ones back when I had a Samsung Mesmerize. Maybe that's why I grew favor to the stock AOSP app compared to the Samsung and other third party apps. O well.
Quick troubleshooting update: Ever since we got the update to Kit Kat and the introduction of using Hangouts to SMS, I've stayed with the stock app instead of Hangouts just because I like it better. However, I will switch to Hangouts just to see if I can send pictures successfully through that. Crossing my fingers this will work and will report back if anything improves
P.S. sorry for the long absence; I've been busy with school and haven't had time to post
Hey guys, I have come back baring good things.
So I've been using Hangouts for a couple of days and MMS and picture messaging works. I can send a picture to any T-Mobile number and they can download it and view it .
The only problem that I have experienced is that sometimes I get double-texts from a friend (but that can just be due to a faulty BlackBerry ;P).
Looks like Hangouts is the way to go for now
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Hey guys, I have come back baring good things.
So I've been using Hangouts for a couple of days and MMS and picture messaging works. I can send a picture to any T-Mobile number and they can download it and view it .
The only problem that I have experienced is that sometimes I get double-texts from a friend (but that can just be due to a faulty BlackBerry ;P).
Looks like Hangouts is the way to go for now
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I've read the same issue in another thread. and the 2 fixes you mentioned came up:
1. people saying using hangouts fixes the issue
2. People saying attaching to MMS works and capturing a photo doesn't.
It's a bug with the Kit-Kat AOSP messaging apk. Other phones have this issue as well. I'm assuming that Google removed the picture compression code in an effort to get people to use Hangouts for SMS/MMS as Hangouts will compress down the pic w/o notifying you.
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It's a bug with the Kit-Kat AOSP messaging apk. Other phones have this issue as well. I'm assuming that Google removed the picture compression code in an effort to get people to use Hangouts for SMS/MMS as Hangouts will compress down the pic w/o notifying you.
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same issue in Hangouts running the pre-installed and latest version. Also you need evidence to back that up if it's really a known bug and not a rumor.
Mitalis said:
It's a bug with the Kit-Kat AOSP messaging apk. Other phones have this issue as well. I'm assuming that Google removed the picture compression code in an effort to get people to use Hangouts for SMS/MMS as Hangouts will compress down the pic w/o notifying you.
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If that is so, it would make sense and would make me mad at Google
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Just a quick update:
I've been using Hangouts for a quite a while now and have not had a problem since. I have nothing against Hangouts but I would like to have a dedicated MMS/SMS application because I don't really want Hangouts to be checking for messages ever so often.
I have unlimited MMS/SMS and no unlimited data anyways