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On the dev edition Moto X? I mean the phone is fully unlocked, isnt it? There are hardly any roms available..
Well if you bought a developer edition wouldn't you cook your own rom?
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The Moto X is probably the first phone where a custom rom takes many desired features away, so why bother?
gunnyman said:
The Moto X is probably the first phone where a custom rom takes many desired features away, so why bother?
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Agreed. Similar to the G2, other than a few tweaks here and there, building a ROM defeats a lot of the stock features. Which in my opinion like the X, are very useful.
Now, if we were taking touchwiz, ROMS are needed to get rid of a lot of the crap!!!
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Agreed. Similar to the G2, other than a few tweaks here and there, building a ROM defeats a lot of the stock features. Which in my opinion like the X, are very useful.
Now, if we were taking touchwiz, ROMS are needed to get rid of a lot of the crap!!!
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G2? That has a lot of LG crap similar to touchwiz. You definitely need a aosp ROM for G2. For Moto X sure, it's stock android plus useful features not like the useless LG and Samsung gimmicks.
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gunnyman said:
The Moto X is probably the first phone where a custom rom takes many desired features away, so why bother?
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People could add the features on top of the current features.
For instance, it'd be nice to be able to modify quick setting tiles, center clock, etc. Xposed will hopefully give us those options though.
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kirdroid said:
G2? That has a lot of LG crap similar to touchwiz. You definitely need a aosp ROM for G2. For Moto X sure, it's stock android plus useful features not like the useless LG and Samsung gimmicks.
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The S4 has a lot of useless gimmicky features. LG implements just enough useful features to not make it over the top like touchwiz. I definitely prefer the Moto X over those two but I just needed to stand up for the G2 which was a great device. The G2 was plenty fast and it didn't need AOSP.
phositadc said:
People could add the features on top of the current features.
For instance, it'd be nice to be able to modify quick setting tiles, center clock, etc. Xposed will hopefully give us those options though.
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If you use GravityBox you can tweak tiles, clock, battery and much more.
bootloaders locked on ATT and Verizon probably don't help. I wonder what % of X's were sold through them.
I'll also agree with the fact that we'd give up some features with standard ROMS like AOSP, slimbean, PA, etc.
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If you use GravityBox you can tweak tiles, clock, battery and much more.
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Is this working on 4.4 yet?
Dburgessme2 said:
Is this working on 4.4 yet?
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Article in the Portal said Xposed is now working on 4.4, with most Apps
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Dburgessme2 said:
Is this working on 4.4 yet?
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The change log said that GB was experimental on 4.4 but I just tried to use it and it wouldn't load. My bad.
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Article in the Portal said Xposed is now working on 4.4, with most Apps
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The Xposed framework does work on 4.4 however many of the popular modules such as GravityBox and MotoXposed are currently not working/supported. It's also worth mentioning that Xposed Framework does not work with ART.
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The Xposed framework does work on 4.4 however many of the popular modules GravityBox and MotoXposed are currently not working/supported. It's also worth mentioning that Xposed Framework does not work with ART.
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And take out all the fun of reading the article for everyone, Never!!
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SupaSwag said:
The S4 has a lot of useless gimmicky features. LG implements just enough useful features to not make it over the top like touchwiz. I definitely prefer the Moto X over those two but I just needed to stand up for the G2 which was a great device. The G2 was plenty fast and it didn't need AOSP.
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We shouldn't be standing up for any OEMs who crap android and make it harder to update
Why did the moto X get updated so fast? It's essentially stock android with value added features on top of it. G2 is fast? Sure it's running the latest awesome soc but over time without updates it'll be left out to die a painful death.
I just unlocked my Verizon Moto X this week thanks to the Chinese site, and noticed after doing so that the only Rom I can find that is blur based is Eclipse, which at the moment doesn't support a lot of xposed add ons. I also don't see any kernels for blur. Am I blind or missing something? I have no regrets about unlocking the bootloader as I was now able to upgrade to 4.4.2 without issue, but I thought there would be a little more choices in this regard.
My reason for asking is because all the non blur roms, as far as I can tell, do not support touchless controls, assit or native motorola active display. Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I use these features a lot (touchless controls by far the most of the 3) and wanted to be able to continue using those on a custom rom, as well as tinker with custom kernels.
Welcome to Moto x. Not a huge development circle.
I think eclipse and kangakat are the only 2 stock based roms.
Faux kernel is for stock based only. And its the only custom kernel.
That's it....if you want to keep the Moto features.
Aosp roms don't have the Moto features.
Moto isn't a flashaholics phone...not at all.
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kj2112 said:
Welcome to Moto x. Not a huge development circle.
I think eclipse and kangakat are the only 2 stock based roms.
Faux kernel is for stock based only. And its the only custom kernel.
That's it....if you want to keep the Moto features.
Aosp roms don't have the Moto features.
Moto isn't a flashaholics phone...not at all.
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That's what I figured, although for the price the bootloader unlock was worth to be able to get 4.4.2 with everything accesible as well as future proof updates.
Eclipse room is quite nice. I have not yet seen an xposed module that is incompatible. You do have to get x control and it replaces some gravitybox features, but both still work.
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Just out of curiosity, why hasn't there been any custom roms or development ?
I really hope someone is working on root for non pure edition.
Development was pretty light with the 2013 version too. The combination of limited market (dev edition only) and the near stock experience, and the loss of what makes the Moto X special, means not very many people are seeking an alternative.
What about kernels? Surely we could benefit from custom kernels and keep all our moto x a pure android experience, correct? Like possible for color cal and battery life? :silly:
Custom roms ya custom kernel can come only after motolola releases its kernel sources
My impression was since its " pure edition" it would be developer friendly .
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My impression was since its " pure edition" it would be developer friendly .
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It is developer friendly. There just isn't a lot of development for the reasons listed above.
Restola said:
Development was pretty light with the 2013 version too. The combination of limited market (dev edition only) and the near stock experience, and the loss of what makes the Moto X special, means not very many people are seeking an alternative.
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This, I have a Droid Maxx and the wife has a Moto X. We enjoy the anti Samsung, pure Google experience enhanced with touchless and active display. No reasons to try any AOSP Roms. Development is so light for the Droid Ultra/ Maxx that CM dropped support for it, but that is due to how good the stock ROM is. I ran Paranoid on my RAZR Maxx HD but still moved back to stock because it is smoother and has better cell reception. All the cool little functions are just that, cool. Paranoid's implementation of their dynamic status and notification bars are the best I've seen, much better than the xposed modules. But at the end of the day, it is about functionality and useability. Stock Motorola Roms are very good, just need to debloat all the Verizon crap in my case. As far as kernels, hopefully faux123 will do something with the new Moto X. I'm running his kernel on my Droid Maxx and Moto X and it definitely enhances the phone more than any aftermarket Roms could. The reason why I hangout in the Moto X forums is because there are not a lot of us Droid owners and the Moto X forums is where we get most of our stuff. I'm running a Moto X port on my Droid Maxx for example. This holds true for the new Droid Turbo also which I am definitely interested in. That is if there's a way to unlock the bootloader. Unlocked bootloader with 3900 mAH battery and 21 mp camera and the Moto X experience? I'm in, still have an upgrade available! But I don't foresee the bootloader or root being available for these new phones for a long while. In the mean time, I'll enjoy my unlocked Droid Maxx and Moto X and continue to lurk around here. Lol
You can use Xposed Framework, I think, with the 2nd Gen. Moto X. It will give you many of the popular features from custom roms that aren't in stock Android.
The only other reason I can see for custom roms on the Moto X (at least as far as it concerns me) is that I think they can be better for privacy and getting rid of under the hood bits of code that might be abused for marketing/tracking purposes. Also I think the CyanogenMod Account is a more secure way to track and remotely wipe your phone, than the Android Device Manager. At the end of the day, I trust Cyanogen to have my security and privacy in mind more than Google or Motorola. But I don't think this is enough that people will feel motivated to develop a lot for the Moto X (for the reasons already stated above).
I can't see development being any busier than the quiet 2013.
Too many Moto limitations... Like bootloaders not being able to be unlocked on some big carriers. And as said, no custom features on aosp/cm roms. Downgrade issues.... If it's like the 2013. Etc.
The X's are not for flashaholics .... That's for sure.
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I really hope someone is working on root for non pure edition.
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The pure edition root method by jcase works fine on other devices. I rooted my xt1093 last week, seen some Brazilian carriers' rooted (also non pure, xt1092 maybe?), and I'm 100% confident it'll work for any moto x with an unlockable bootloader.
Am I wrong in thinking that only the pure edition has an unlockable bootloader?
Where to find stock firmware? For verizon?
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Am I wrong in thinking that only the pure edition has an unlockable bootloader?
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Yes, quite wrong. Search and Google are your friend here.
Only Verizon cannot be unlocked presently AFAIK.
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cornpollen said:
Where to find stock firmware? For verizon?
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I don't think any carrier branded X has made this available yet...
Well thats why I didn't know that. I have the VZW model.
cb474 said:
You can use Xposed Framework, I think, with the 2nd Gen. Moto X. It will give you many of the popular features from custom roms that aren't in stock Android.
The only other reason I can see for custom roms on the Moto X (at least as far as it concerns me) is that I think they can be better for privacy and getting rid of under the hood bits of code that might be abused for marketing/tracking purposes. Also I think the CyanogenMod Account is a more secure way to track and remotely wipe your phone, than the Android Device Manager. At the end of the day, I trust Cyanogen to have my security and privacy in mind more than Google or Motorola. But I don't think this is enough that people will feel motivated to develop a lot for the Moto X (for the reasons already stated above).
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I have mine rooted and running Xposed with GravityBox and it works just as well as my original version Moto X did. I don't see the need for a custom rom, though I might try CM once there is a version for it.
Well as someone said, even the Moto 2013 had very very little development. But I would love to see a Custom ROM based on Moto's software itself. Cleaning out small bugs and unrequired services and maybe add couple of extra features.
I just received my Moto X (2nd gen).... I should have looked on the forums first... Without custom ROMS - I'll most likely just send it back to Moto...
I like the options the custom roms bring. I like choosing the toggles I desire in the window shade, custom themes, etc... Not being able to do those things... Meh - I have been tweaking my experience since 2007. I don't like the idea of just running a plain Jane rom.. This sucks as I really like the hardware... Almost enough that I would spend the time trying to learn to make a custom rom myself... But, I can't expend the time to learn, debug, etc... Sadly, I'm too busy with my day job...
As long as you're not on Verizon, Xposed modules should be able to give you all the customization choices you'd ever need.
I was hoping for custom Lollipop roms and Xposed won't work on Android 5.0 (and, it is uncertain if it will ever work on Lollipop).....
Would it be doable to flash a stock Motorola ROM ("blur") from a Droid Turbo or Moto Maxx, given that the hardware is pretty much the same?
Maybe it's easier than it looks, or it sounds really easier than it really is. But has anyone tried it, and is there a risk of bricking the device?
Don't get me wrong, I love stock Lollipop, but am missing Moto Display a lot, and Moto Voice to a lesser extent...
no.
if you do try it, most likely youll make your n6 as useful as a doorstop from that point on.
I understand that... My wording was inaccurate I guess.
I meant I was wondering if it would be possible to port a Motorola ROM to the shamu, I guess that's more accurate.
johnny grep said:
I understand that... My wording was inaccurate I guess.
I meant I was wondering if it would be possible to port a Motorola ROM to the shamu, I guess that's more accurate.
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you can try, it wont be easy. if kitkat, then orobably not. where would you get n6 drivers for kitkat support?
There are lollipop roms for the Moto X, Droid Turbo shouldn't be too far behind.
Motorola blur is closed source, so no it wouldn't be feasible to do with the amount of resources put into it because to be honest there isn't much of a interest and it's difficult to reverse engineer closed source software especially when Motorola can just set out a cease and desist.
Moto rom is already quite close to stock aosp and their apps are propetiary to Motorola mobility. If you want Moto blur (or whatever it's called now) stick to using Moto devices, these Moto blur, touchwiz, HTC sense are what the companies make in order to make people keep buying their phones.
Just like how nexus is pretty much aosp with some Google Apps (dialer, etc). Each phone series has its own unique identity.
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I came from a Droid Maxx. I loved the active display feature and it's the feature that I miss most from my Maxx. Has anyone gotten Moto X's or Droid Turbo's Active Display to work with our N6? I realize there are apps in the Play Store that somewhat do this but they aren't the same.
Cincybearcatfan said:
I came from a Droid Maxx. I loved the active display feature and it's the feature that I miss most from my Maxx. Has anyone gotten Moto X's or Droid Turbo's Active Display to work with our N6? I realize there are apps in the Play Store that somewhat do this but they aren't the same.
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With the new Motorola X Pro on the horizon which appears to be the clone of the Nexus running stock Moto software I don't expect many devs to bother porting it over. I think they will wait till it releases and port over bits from the framework to make it easier.
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With the new Motorola X Pro on the horizon which appears to be the clone of the Nexus running stock Moto software I don't expect many devs to bother porting it over. I think they will wait till it releases and port over bits from the framework to make it easier.
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If we can get a system dump then it should be possible. I think devs will want to port features over and incorporate them into their ROMs.
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If we can get a system dump then it should be possible. I think devs will want to port features over and incorporate them into their ROMs.
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If they can't post it I hope they are able to port the entire ROM. It would be so nice to run the stock Moto software as it will probably be Lollipop and include stuff like the Active Display, camera software, Moto Assist and other stuffs
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If they can't post it I hope they are able to port the entire ROM. It would be so nice to run the stock Moto software as it will probably be Lollipop and include stuff like the Active Display, camera software, Moto Assist and other stuffs
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Its possible I suppose but we have to see what we can get our hands on. I suspect that you could run stock moto firmware on the nexus since it's virtually the same device. The ROM will probably need to be modified in some way to do this if its even possible but I feel like the features will be ported before a whole ROM is
um, doesn't the Nexus have active display? mine acts just like my motox
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um, doesn't the Nexus have active display? mine acts just like my motox
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It has Ambient Display, which I believe is not exclusive to the N6 but built into Lollipop and only active for compatible hardware. It is also slightly different as Moto Display will continue to flash, or "breathe", the latest notification till you view or dismiss it. It is also heavily optimized specifically for the Moto X hardware and screen technology which makes for great battery life.
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It has Ambient Display, which I believe is not exclusive to the N6 but built into Lollipop and only active for compatible hardware. It is also slightly different as Moto Display will continue to flash, or "breathe", the latest notification till you view or dismiss it. It is also heavily optimized specifically for the Moto X hardware and screen technology which makes for great battery life.
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That's correct only AMOLED screened devices have the ambient display. My Nexus 9 did not have it in the display settings. Since the Nexus is a Motorola device and the same exact specs as the X Pro we can assume that there will be some porting done. There is a OP discussion Moto X Pro in the Q&A section if you want to check there.
I cant wait till someone ports it over, would love to see MOTO X features on my Nexus 6
I'm definitely for this, even if it's a pipe dream. It would be awesome to have the moto display instead of ambient display, it's much better
mustangjoe302 said:
I'm definitely for this, even if it's a pipe dream. It would be awesome to have the moto display instead of ambient display, it's much better
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Why is it a pipe dream? I imagine there are many people that would like this to happen.
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Why is it a pipe dream? I imagine there are many people that would like this to happen.
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Things like this can be extremely difficult. Often the people who would like them to happen don't have the skills (or the inkling to learn) where as the people with the skills (or inkling to learn) don't care or want to get involved. Its quite rare that skills and would like meet up in a single person.
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I cant wait till someone ports it over, would love to see MOTO X features on my Nexus 6
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same here... I would so pay for this feature! Ambient display is a joke
What's the software like on Moto's Moto x pro?
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What's the software like on Moto's Moto x pro?
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Near stock android but with very useful features
What I meant was I believe the Moto X pro is the Nexus 6 with Moto software. If someone makes a ROM from its system dump, maybe we could have all the Moto features.
Yep waiting for that too haha even looking on baidu to see if I get anything
Does anyone have the Moto X Pro? Because I can't find a system dump for the life of me! I want to port Moto Display so fast
It looks like it was released recently
https://plus.google.com/106984013892934805292/posts/DKXkGMJ6gzs
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It looks like it was released recently
https://plus.google.com/106984013892934805292/posts/DKXkGMJ6gzs
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Let me know if anyone finds this, I really would like to have the moto voice