I have gmail and outlook on my phone, outlook can 'sync' email without me enabling the all sync services. For google products it seems all or nothing, with sync disabled I can't enable just gmail. I'd also like to point out that outlook can sync just calendar and emails without draining the battery. With wifi off gps on, data on, and just outlook checking for emails I can get 2-3 days of light usage (a few phone calls, texts, gps and music) with google's auto sync I get a day. Maybe.
may be you are using too many apps causing the power consuming to a great deal .. but to look at your post it does not seem so .. perhaps it would be good to see for other suggestions coming
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I have 3 email accounts setup on my SGS (Bell, 2.1): 1 exchange activesync using the stock email client set on push, and 2 gmail using the stock gmail app. I have been getting very bad idle battery drain, it can be over 5%/hour while idle, and have also had my activesync 'stall' and stop retrieving new messages after a period of time. Using the 'other usage' page in battery history I found that the phone was not sleeping very much (at least 65% running) and on the 'partial wake' page the culprit was identified as "Email". When I switched my exchange account from push to 10min poll the running stat dropped below 20%, but email remains the highest partial wake usage. It seems that the stock email activesync push is having a hard time keeping the push connection running and this is both killing my battery and not retrieving my emails.
I have 2 questions:
1) What does the "Email" entry on the partial wake screen of battery history cover? Is it just the stock email app, or does it also include the gmail app?
2) I have also read from many people that push from an exchange server works great and is light on the battery. Could there be something about the particular exchange server I am using that is causing my activesync woes? Several iphones use push from this server with no apparent issues.
Thanks.
To follow up my original post, I have found some new information on this. I shut off my exchange/activesync syncing completely and my battery life went through the roof. My idle battery usage went from 3-10%/hour to under 0.5%/hour and I still had 2 gmail accounts syncing via push. The 'running' at idle went from 20%+ to about 1.5%, and the partial wake usage of 'email' went down to 0. From this I have drawn 2 conclusions: 1) The 'email' entry on the partial wake history does not include gmail. 2) The stock email app uses a ridiculous amount of time and power to sync email via activesync, i get between 6x and 20x the battery life when I am not using activesync. Has anyone else seen results like this? I am still wondering if this is a peculiarity of my exchange server or if activesycn is this bad in general?
Thanks.
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This is exactly what Google wants you to think.
Activesync is bad, so let me switch to Google, etc...
Google is playing with fire, in my opinion. People simply love outlook and exchange.
it's a million times easier for them to dump google phones and switch to a large available mobile OS's like iphone, Microsoft, Symbian, etc... instead of dumping outlook.
it's true Android is very attractive to users being on many devices and by many vendors but outlook is more precious and the alternatives google is offering are ridiculous compared to outlook.
after trying and searching right and left, i concluded that i have to sell both my Android phones back to iphone or Windows phone 7. Exchange Activesync is a red line.
As many of us know, the google calendar sync process can be huge headache that results in battery drain in the form of the ambiguous "Android OS." Interestingly, even if we choose to manually sync entries, there is no option within the calendar for "visible, not sync." Thus we are forced to keep sync running if we want to see calendar entries. Terrible design. I tried a few third party calendar apps but when you sync them, the stock calendar syncs as well and shows up as "synced, visible" once again. I would like to have my data visible and sync when I please. Seems like this should be easy to do. Perhaps this option hasn't been important for CM7 on other devices because those using phones rather than tablets have access to data transfers almost always, whereas we have to rely on WIFI to sync. How have others worked around this issue? Is there a way to submit a CM7 request for future builds?
In the meantime, you can try ShutUp Battery Saver to schedule syncing. Makes the automatic syncing alot more bearable.
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As many of us know, the google calendar sync process can be huge headache that results in battery drain in the form of the ambiguous "Android OS." Interestingly, even if we choose to manually sync entries, there is no option within the calendar for "visible, not sync." Thus we are forced to keep sync running if we want to see calendar entries. Terrible design.
How have others worked around this issue?
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See my response to your request in the CM7 general thread. I use Calengoo and turn off autosync and use "Synker" to set up a manual calendar sync widget.
Thanks for the ideas, guys. I'm not really concerned about having auto-sync. I'm happy to sync manually. I did purchase calengoo and this seems to be a nice alternative to the stock calendar. It has a manual sync feature built into the primary menu. I set it up so that it pulls calendar info from the Google calendar directly rather than going through the Android interface (which I disabled). When I set up an appointment, the sync button is right there to manually integrate the data with the Google server. Works great and hopefully there will be no more headaches with the syncing and battery drain.
Also, the popup reminders in calengoo are really great to have. The reminder on a homescreen rather than the status bar is cool.
You are right. I didn't know what capabilities Calengoo even had. I too completely disabled my Android calendar and set Calengoo up for google calendar only. Turned off completely the google android calendar sync. The sync button on the menu makes it so I don't have to use "Synker" either. You can even set Calengoo to sync on a schedule you set manually if you want.
I even went so far add to "freeze" the google calendar and calendar storage apps with Titanium Backup so that they do not load or run. So far no issues for having done that.
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I even went so far add to "freeze" the google calendar and calendar storage apps with Titanium Backup so that they do not load or run. So far no issues for having done that.
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I thought about doing that, too, but I finally stopped freezing apps as a last attempt to improve battery life because some unidentified frozen app was indirectly related to the failure of the device to suspend properly. With no frozen apps (I just hide them with launcherpro so I don't have to think about them!), wifi enabled and set to off with screen off, and the crappy stock calendar turned off, I'm at 23 hours on battery, with 3 1/2 hours display time, and 46% battery left. This is much more acceptable.
I received, despite my best efforts, a system update this weekend.
AFAIK, before the update I was able to individually turn off sync services. For example, I disable sync to google contacts and calendar.
I have a syncml server at my office, and I set up my users with smartphones to sync to that using synthesis. I have found that when both google and syncml services are active my users (and me) get duplicate contact and calendar entries.
I am pretty sure that I had that turned off on my droid 3 before the update.
So I was surprised to find that the little toggles in the individual services under my google account were no longer there, and google services were happily syncing away. I suddenly found myself with three times the contacts I had on Friday night.
Has anyone else seen this change?
Are any of you experiencing sync failures of your various accounts?
My gmail and google contacts usually sync correctly, but I have had a sync failure a couple times.
My Yahoo email account is through the native email app. It often syncs when it's supposed to, but is experiencing a number of sync errors where it just hangs up during the sync process, and then fails.
My office email account is through the Exchange Active Sync. It includes email, calendar and contacts. The calendar and contacts sync when they're supposed to, sometimes. The email has not synced since yesterday. It gets hung up when syncing and then fails.
It's Monday afternoon, now, and I've had the phone since Friday afternoon. Didn't start noticing these sync failures until late yesterday.
I've tried restarting the phone. That didn't help.
Thoughts or advice would be appreciated.
Any help on this would really be appreciated. I'm stumped.
Yesterday afternoon, I removed my Exchange account and then re-installed. All worked perfectly until a couple hours ago.
Upon more careful attention, it appears that what's going on is that all parts of the Exchange account work properly except the email Inbox. Calendar and Contacts sync. Outgoing email syncs. But the Mail sync hangs-up with the turning circle and the Inbox will not sync.
I am having exactly the same problem on two different HTC One. Everything syncs fine except E-Mail. The only way to solve this is to remove the exchange account and add a new one. This happens when your Dataline is weak and switches around nothing-GPRS-Edge-3G or Wifi.
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Are any of you experiencing sync failures of your various accounts?
My gmail and google contacts usually sync correctly, but I have had a sync failure a couple times.
My Yahoo email account is through the native email app. It often syncs when it's supposed to, but is experiencing a number of sync errors where it just hangs up during the sync process, and then fails.
My office email account is through the Exchange Active Sync. It includes email, calendar and contacts. The calendar and contacts sync when they're supposed to, sometimes. The email has not synced since yesterday. It gets hung up when syncing and then fails.
It's Monday afternoon, now, and I've had the phone since Friday afternoon. Didn't start noticing these sync failures until late yesterday.
I've tried restarting the phone. That didn't help.
Thoughts or advice would be appreciated.
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Try this: In Exchange General Settings set mail-size limit to max and sync-timerange to all. This setting is now working for over 3 days.
I am using the simple email app included, Gmail is disabled. Using arhd 10.1 but this problem was here long before with original stock.
I guess I have already tried all possible combinations to have the mail sync, maybe someone else has an idea on how this works if at all.
In settings I tried the smart sync, then each number of minutes, whatever I put in there, the only way to have the mail query the server is to manually open the application. For instance, I send myself an email from desktop, my ipad picks it up in a matter of seconds, I mean the fu$#er is in sleep mode, cover on, then I almost instantly hear that notification sound. The One however, I could wait all day, no sign it knows about it.
I have 2 email accounts configured, yahoo and Gmail, I also tried to add one at a time, nothing seems to help.
Thanks for any idea on how to make it work or any suggestions on a third party app?
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Smartsync takes time to build a database of data about your usage and when to check for email. For Gmail the best bet is the Gmail app, which will get almost instant push notifications.
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Smartsync takes time to build a database of data about your usage and when to check for email. For Gmail the best bet is the Gmail app, which will get almost instant push notifications.
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I'd rather be using only one app for my email accounts - - the stock mail for instance.
It's just that no sync mode seems to work, be it smart or not
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I'd rather be using only one app for my email accounts - - the stock mail for instance.
It's just that no sync mode seems to work, be it smart or not
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like the guy said above. smart sync needs to build a repour before it will know when to check. its not having information pushed to it like the gmail app is. your best bet is to use the 2 separate apps since each individual app has the ability to push emails immediately while HTC's smart sync or manual sync is just basically timed sync-ing. its just that smart sync is timed to how the phone learns your usage?
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like the guy said above. smart sync needs to build a repour before it will know when to check. its not having information pushed to it like the gmail app is. your best bet is to use the 2 separate apps since each individual app has the ability to push emails immediately while HTC's smart sync or manual sync is just basically timed sync-ing. its just that smart sync is timed to how the phone learns your usage?
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As I said the manual mode doesn't work either.
I am going to try k9 for now..
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Okay, I think the problem might be elsewhere: the k9,same as mail doesn't seem to sync either. I have tried this over wifi and data, in power settings the sleep mode is disabled, I even disabled power saver.
Does email synchronization works for anyone excepting gmail users?
I am going to enable gmail, see how that behaves with sync..
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Manual mode as in your in the mail app and request it to refresh? And the email still doesn't come through? Not sure then.. I used smart sync for a while then I found it to not update fast enough for my needs. But it did always work.
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The mail app syncs over wifi, I found out. Yes, it took a while (set it up to check at 5 minutes.). However, it still doesn't work when screen is off.
While on data only, the whole sync is very conservative. Unless I open up myself the mail thing it doesn't bother to refresh. In fact, the only thing synchronizing over data is weather from BW widget, but even then I am afraid it only refreshes itself when opening the screen. Ah, and Google play, I get notifications over mobile data as well.
I mean I used to want this conservative data behavior when on 100mb data plan, however now I have 3gb to spend and having trouble with email notifications?
I suspect there might be a misbehaving app will try reinstalling everything and one app at a time..
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Does this help?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2267281
penultimate post.