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- Idea: Want to play Mobile Games on my big HD TV (has no DLNA), only solution so far: MHL Cable, but this is a pain in the a s s you need a MHL Adapter, a Charging Cable and a 5 meter HDMI Cable. b*tch please. that's no fun.
- Problem: TV has no DLNA function where i could mirror the Mobile Phone screen, else it would be solved.
Is there a Solution?
my PC is connected with DVI-HDMI to the HD TV, so if i could make my PC work like a DLNA Receiver with VLC Player or something, maybe i could get the Xperia Z find my PC in the LAN as DLNA device and stream the Xperia Screen (Games, Videos) to the PC VLC Player and watch it on my TV then like i play games on my PC.
Is this possible and how ?
DLNA will not enable you to play games on your tv. It will allow the playback of media.
You need something to mirror the phone image. Like MirrorLink. Which isn't available yet.
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ok, that's what i thought in the first place.
i contacted the sony support today and they told me that i can not play games from my phone on my older sony bravia tv without a MHL Adapter Cable (Micro USB to HDMI), but with a newer DLAN TV (yes DLAN, he thought it is correct like this, in the end i told him it's called DLNA).
that's where my thoughts came from, that a pc may also be able to view the screen picture and act as a DLNA Receiver like the newer DLNA TVs.
It's not DLNA, it's Miracast. Currently no solution to have your computer act as receiver exists, but it is theoretically possible on any device with WiFi and WiFi Direct.
Remember though that wireless mirroring doesn't work simultaneously with regular WiFi and has over a second delay.
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Ambroos said:
It's not DLNA, it's Miracast. Currently no solution to have your computer act as receiver exists, but it is theoretically possible on any device with WiFi and WiFi Direct.
Remember though that wireless mirroring doesn't work simultaneously with regular WiFi and has over a second delay.
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You could play limited media through your laptops DLNA server from the phone, just select your computer from the throw settings. But of course you will have to have the computer connected to the TV.
One scond delay over wifi, dude you need a new router or network config, there is a delay, but I would suggest it shouldn't be one second, this would be due to the connected device rendering the image for display not WIFI lag.
Yes as for using your tv for what you are asking MHL is really your only option
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You could play limited media through your laptops DLNA server from the phone, just select your computer from the throw settings. But of course you will have to have the computer connected to the TV.
One scond delay over wifi, dude you need a new router or network config, there is a delay, but I would suggest it shouldn't be one second, this would be due to the connected device rendering the image for display not WIFI lag.
Yes as for using your tv for what you are asking MHL is really your only option
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He asked about mirroring, not streaming. Streaming music or movies to your pc is easy, I just use foobar for that (music only).
Miracast doesn't use your router at all, it's WiFi Direct which means it goes directly from your phone to the receiving device. You obviously haven't tried it because there really is quite some delay. Your phone has to compress the display data on the fly, transmit it and then the receiver needs to decode it. Don't expect that too be to fast. Check some YouTube videos and you'll see there is a delay.
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He asked about mirroring, not streaming. Streaming music or movies to your pc is easy, I just use foobar for that (music only).
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Yep and what do you think DLNA is??? Only streaming of various media types. So the answer is clearly NO. That was his question. And that is what I told him
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Miracast doesn't use your router at all, it's WiFi Direct which means it goes directly from your phone to the receiving device. You obviously haven't tried it because there really is quite some delay. Your phone has to compress the display data on the fly, transmit it and then the receiver needs to decode it. Don't expect that too be to fast. Check some YouTube videos and you'll see there is a delay.
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Yes I wasn't referring to WIFI direct nor miracast, and neither were you in your quote stating about the over one second delay, well at least you didn't make that clear. I was referring to using wifi to mirror my screen on my Sony TV, and I state that quite clearly.
You ovbiously got out of the wrong side of the bed
Anyone having an issue where the Cc is not turning on your TV when you cast content?
I set mine up the recommended way with the power adapter powering it instead of one of the USB ports on the TV. I have a year and a half of Panasonic plasma TV that supports HDMI 1.3a.
I was trying to show my wife how it worked in the demo but I instead got laughed at. Is there some other standard I should check to see if it's the TV or the Cc or a setting/config I missed?
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Anyone having an issue where the Cc is not turning on your TV when you cast content?
I set mine up the recommended way with the power adapter powering it instead of one of the USB ports on the TV. I have a year and a half of Panasonic plasma TV that supports HDMI 1.3a.
I was trying to show my wife how it worked in the demo but I instead got laughed at. Is there some other standard I should check to see if it's the TV or the Cc or a setting/config I missed?
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The ability to change the input is found on HDMI 1.4 and higher I believe
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Well that sucks if that's the case. I reread the instructions and it seems that I was wrong. The recommended method is to use the USB on the TV and not the charger. I'll give that a whirl and hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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The CEC function is not HDMI version specific (it was defined in 1.0, though there have been revisions since).
Do you have the CEC feature enabled on your television set? The name varies by manufacturer (list lifted from Wikipedia HDMI article, CEC section): Anynet+ (Samsung), Aquos Link (Sharp), BRAVIA Link and BRAVIA Sync (Sony), HDMI-CEC (Hitachi), E-link (AOC), Kuro Link (Pioneer), CE-Link and Regza Link (Toshiba), RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) (Onkyo), RuncoLink (Runco International), SimpLink (LG), T-Link (ITT), HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, VIERA Link (Panasonic), EasyLink (Philips), NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi).
Also, I'd guess you should power it using an external adapter unless the television provides power to ChromeCast even when on standby.
mikejr83, I have a brand new LG 47LA6200 and I have the same problem. Chromecast does not turn on the TV when I try to cast a moving or video. Simplink is on.on the LG TV and I have tested it that it works with my LG Blu-ray player.
My Chromecast does turn on the tv when I push content to it. Does it turn off when idle though? i haven't left it on and not-casting for long but if it doesn't turn off then that would really suck. At the very least it needs to kill the hdmi signal so my tv will auto-turn off. I'm testing this on the Sony Playstation TV. I will then test it on my sharp aquos in my living room to see if it works there.
And if you have, tell us how you did it. I have been trying everything on my LG SIMPLINK TV and no go. All the right settings on the TV are ON but still no go,
CEC, or Consumer Electronics Control, allows for HDMI devices to be controlled with one remote control. If your television has CEC support, you may be able to turn on and change the input on your TV using your phone, tablet or computer while using Chromecast. Please note that in order for CEC to work (if CEC is supported by your TV), your Chromecast must be powered by a power outlet.
Manufacturers often call CEC by different names, including Anynet+ (Samsung), Aquos Link (Sharp), BRAVIA Link and BRAVIA Sync (Sony), HDMI-CEC (Hitachi), CE-Link and Regza Link (Toshiba), SimpLink (LG), HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, VIERA Link (Panasonic), EasyLink (Philips), and NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi).
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From: https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3210071?hl=en&ref_topic=3267370
larryvand said:
And if you have, tell us how you did it. I have been trying everything on my LG SIMPLINK TV and no go. All the right settings on the TV are ON but still no go,
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It worked after I turned on Anynet+ on my Samsung TV (from 2009). I also had to move from the TV USB to an external USB Power (actually it's my Google TV that provides power) because when the TV is off, it does not power the USB port.
This is a brand new 2013 LG smart TV. I have turned on the SIMPLINK and the auto power on, and the chromecast is using its own powersupply. I also have a SIMPLINK blu-ray player and that works perfectly. When I use the blu-ray player remote it will turn on the TV and switch to the right channel. Same with the LG TV remote control it can turn off and on the blu-ray player. So the HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) is not the issue. It is Chromecast as far as I can tell. With the TV off, if I try to cast a youtube video, chromecast does not turn on the TV for some reason. If the TV is already on but in a different input, it does switch to the right input so part of the Chromecast HDMI-CEC is working. I'm at a loss here.
What version of firmware your chromecast uses?
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From: https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3210071?hl=en&ref_topic=3267370
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That's interesting, because I have my Chromecast running off of USB power (from my TV's USB port), and it still turns on my TV and switches inputs automatically when it detects casting. For what it's worth, my TV is a cheap 32" Vizio smart TV (purchased earlier this year from Target).
Has anyone been able to plug it directly into their receiver and get it to turn it on?
Mine is working as advertised. Powered by AC.
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Has anyone been able to plug it directly into their receiver and get it to turn it on?
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I got mine to flip to the input when I started a YouTube. Still working with it to see what all can be automated.
Also no power without the USB.
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wsimon said:
Has anyone been able to plug it directly into their receiver and get it to turn it on?
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I got mine to flip to the input when I started a YouTube. Still working with it to see what all can be automated.
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I have a Monoprice 4 port HDMI switcher and the Chromecast is plugged into it. It keeps turning on the other TV. My wife thought we had a ghost.
My 5 yo Samsung 46in LCD detects it as an AnyNet device and switches inputs but won't power on. My 2 yo Insignia 24in powers on.
I think it all rests on age
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Mine works and turns the TV on and even switches to the Chromecast input if I start a cast.
I have a 3 year old Sony 46EX710 with the Chromecast plugged into power using the USB port on the TV. It seems my TV powers the USB ports at all time, even if the TV is off.
It doesn't switch back to the last input or turn the TV off if I stop the cast though (I'm sure that has more to do with the TV than the Chromecast).
My Sony 40EX400 turns on when I have it plugged into the wall, but not when plugged into the USB port. (indicating the usb port does not provide power when the tv is turned off)
I dont believe usb ports receive power from tvs when the tv is off thus the reasoning that you need the wall outlet. I have setup 3 chromecasts and all require wall outlet power to turn on tvs, 2 samsung and 1 sony tv.
I've got a 2011 LG TV (simplink) that works with turning it on. However, my Vizio smart TV doesn't turn on. I need to do some more testing with the Vizio, because it would be handy if it turned it on.
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That's interesting, because I have my Chromecast running off of USB power (from my TV's USB port), and it still turns on my TV and switches inputs automatically when it detects casting. For what it's worth, my TV is a cheap 32" Vizio smart TV (purchased earlier this year from Target).
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That is interesting. Your USB ports must be powered all the time, even when your TV is off. What TV do you have.
timtlm said:
I've got a 2011 LG TV (simplink) that works with turning it on. However, my Vizio smart TV doesn't turn on. I need to do some more testing with the Vizio, because it would be handy if it turned it on.
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Finally someone with an LG. I have a brand new LG 2013 47LA6200 smart TV and I still can not turn the TV ON (switches inputs just fine). I have both settings to ON for the SIMPLINK and AUTO POWER.
My Chromecast Firmware version is 12072 (you can see that on the Chromecast app). What is yours?
Mine has the same build number. My TV is the 47LW5600. Mine just worked without messing with any settings. Although, I've looked, and I can't seem to fine my simplink settings in the menus.
EDIT: Just realized that there's a simplink button on the stock remote that opens up the simplink menu. Only has options to turn off and on.
larryvand said:
That is interesting. Your USB ports must be powered all the time, even when your TV is off. What TV do you have.
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Here is the TV I have:
http://store.vizio.com/e322ar.html
However, after the TV has been off for a long while, the Chromecast seems to shut off at some point, not sure at what point though. Oh well, I can live with that. My TV is usually on, even when I'm not watching it, for some kind of background noise, haha
timtlm said:
I've got a 2011 LG TV (simplink) that works with turning it on. However, my Vizio smart TV doesn't turn on. I need to do some more testing with the Vizio, because it would be handy if it turned it on.
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I had to go into the CEC settings on my Vizio smart TV to make it work, but it now works perfectly!
mikaelsnavy said:
I had to go into the CEC settings on my Vizio smart TV to make it work, but it now works perfectly!
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I have turned CEC on in the settings. There's only an on/off option, and detect devices, which it does detect the chromecast. It switches inputs just fine, but won't turn on the TV. I've also tested my HDMI receiver, and it doesn't turn that on either. However, I know the receiver can be turned on via CEC because my TV is capable of turning the receiver on. Maybe an update will offer better CEC compatibility.
EDIT: My raspberry pi turns on my vizio TV when you power it on, so the TV is definitely capable of being turned on via CEC.
I really like how the Chromecast can turn my TV to the correct source and turn it on when I start casting. But is there a way to tell it to turn the TV off when I'm done with it. For example I'm using my ipad to start a movie on Netflix and cast it to the Chromecast. Everything works good. But I left the TV remote next to the TV. Is there a way to turn the TV off from the ipad or a computer with the Chromecast that way I can literally leave my TV remote in a drawer and never have to tough it?
I don't believe chromecast is capable of that. The device you're using has to have an IR blaster to be able to turn the tv on and off. Most new high-end androids have an IR blaster (G2, Note 3, S4, One).
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If you have Verizon fios they have an app that goes through your router that you can change tv don't need IR, since it uses wifi.
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The CEC Power off command is usually sent as part of the power down sequence of the device tat is sending it.
Pull the plug on the TV and it will not send a power down command to other devices on the CEC Network but hit the power Button and it will.
Since the Chromecast never really powers down (it does restart) it is difficult to know when it should send a power off command.
It would not be good to have it send one after every stream is done because most people aren't done watching TV after every stream completes.
Better would be if the CCast would send a Change Input command to go back to the last input before it took over (No command for that in CEC that I know of) so that if you streamed something when the TV was seeing the Cablebox, It would switch to CCast Input when it had a stream and then would switch back to whatever input it was on before CCast took over the screen.
That would be much more useful than a power off command which is great only when you want to watch one stream and then nothing else.
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I don't believe chromecast is capable of that. The device you're using has to have an IR blaster to be able to turn the tv on and off. Most new high-end androids have an IR blaster (G2, Note 3, S4, One).
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Huh? The Chromecast can already turn on and change inputs on some tvs using HDMI CEC. It is most likely a design decision not to turn the tv off when it disconnects.
My TV has an option in the menu to auto switch inputs when it detects activity on one of them through HDMI. So when I turn my bluray on the TV will detect that and switch to INPUT 3 and preempt my satellite input. It's kind of a pain that when I insert a bluray into the player it auto switches even if I'm not ready.
-- EDIT: nevermind, that was an older TV. New one doesn't, so it's HDMI CEC (VieraLink for mine) as bozzykid said.
Asphyx said:
The CEC Power off command is usually sent as part of the power down sequence of the device tat is sending it.
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Since the Chromecast never really powers down (it does restart) it is difficult to know when it should send a power off command.
It would not be good to have it send one after every stream is done because most people aren't done watching TV after every stream completes.
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It'd be nice if there was a manual option... Maybe an option when you long click the chromecast button...
edscholl said:
It'd be nice if there was a manual option... Maybe an option when you long click the chromecast button...
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I would rather they just made a TV Remote app for CCast to control the whole damn thing! LOL
I pull the USB plug (which supplies power) when I'm done watching.
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While I watching a stream on Chromecast, Google Android smartwatch with Chromecast control popped into my head as I picked up the smartphone to pause Netflix for a snack break.
How do you turn off your TV when you turn it on using your Chromecast ?
Here in France & Europe, many of us are using 3play boxes (Internet/TV/phone) to watch TV, these are connected to TVs using (another) HDMI port
Many (if not all) of those boxes are able to turn on/off TVs using their remotes, OR THEIR IOS/ANDROID EMULATED TV REMOTES
So now, when I want to turn off my TV turned on using my Chromecast, I use an android emulated TV remote to do that...
A Chromecast developer told me he saw nothing (documented) inside the Chromecast SDK code to send the appropriate HDMI CEC signal to the HDMI TV port in order to shutdown ; OK,but who will develop a widget button to do this using orders sent by boxes ?
Google will not like...
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PS : other possibility ? Please, Mr Google, give us the proper SDK code to do it, we ensure you we will continue to watch the nice pics / even ads if any... sometimes
Thats cause there is no CEC support to turn off the TV!
Is there any command to shutdown Chromecast?
I'm thinking that the TV maybe shutdown when it looses its HDMI signal?
/Marco
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Thats cause there is no CEC support to turn off the TV!
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Do you mean that chromecast hardware/software can not do it? Because as far as CEC commands, I believe there is such support.
In fact, my xbmc media player shuts down my TV (and also my AVR) when I shut it down (these are xbmc’s configuration options for libcec: http://imgur.com/Yrss7lw,nVrqyny ).
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Do you mean that chromecast hardware/software can not do it? Because as far as CEC commands, I believe there is such support.
In fact, my xbmc media player shuts down my TV (and also my AVR) when I shut it down (these are xbmc’s configuration options for libcec: http://imgur.com/Yrss7lw,nVrqyny ).
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Most devices do not support turning off a TV via CEC with the exception of AVRs.
And many AVRs choose not to do it using the TV as a Menu and info display instead.
Only powering off the AVR will trigger a TV off in those cases.
The CEC commands on the CCast are minimal at best....
Change the input and turn on the TV if it is off.
CCast would not turn off a TV cause it can not assume you are done streaming to it from the CCast. If that were the case every time the default screen loaded up the TV would go off. So it needs to be done via the CCast receiver/player and if you switch to another source the other source should determine if the monitor is needed or not so no need for the CCast to make that decision.
What really needs to be added to the CEC commands is the ability to use the TV or AVR remote to control playback.
But again thats something the Developer Receiver/Player on the CCast has to do the device itself can't really do that for them.
In regards to your XBMC, XBMC assumes it is the only device connected to the TV, It even expects you will watch your live TV through that and that no other device is connected to the TV but XBMC.
Buy a Belkin Wemo or a smart plug... easy peezy.
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Buy a Belkin Wemo or a smart plug... easy peezy.
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OR Hope Google creates some functionality on the Default screen to control the device, change inputs and turn off a TV if needed. But it would require leaving whatever app you were using and loading another app designed to access the default screen control layer.
Basically the device is capable of doing a lot of things it's just that the way it would have to happen is not all that much different than looking for the TV remote and doing it that way!
CCast is considered a "Source" device...Most Source devices are not meant to control power it is assumes the Source Selector device (or Router, in this case an AVR) will handle and determine if and when the TV is needed and shut it down appropriately.
This is why if you have an AVR you should be plugging the CCast into the AVR not the TV.
Only if the TV is acting as the router for sources should the CCast be plugged into it directly. If you have an AVR all your sources should go through that!
In fact it's already started as many AVRs already have the ability to network and play networked sourced content like Pandora and Sirius.
I suspect it won't be long before some type of CCast like capability is built into them that you can control from a mobile OR via the AVR Remote.
Of not AndroidTV then perhaps Amazon Fire or Roku support.