Is the OTA available for Verizon yet?
km8j said:
Is the OTA available for Verizon yet?
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It hasnt been released as far as i know.
i dont think they have even started the process for a soak test afaik
That is what I figured, good ole slow verizon. Can you pull the APK from another carrier for the camera? Would that work?
km8j said:
That is what I figured, good ole slow verizon. Can you pull the APK from another carrier for the camera? Would that work?
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From what i hear, apk won't work. Will have to wait for the VZW OTA.
I called to complain about some issues with my X and asked about the update and they have the update version as the current version for the phone, but if you buy one, you still have to wait for the update. They say that Motorola is the one holding the update due to a staged rollout depending on when you bought the phone. Not sure i believe that.
Yea... i dont have a link handy but one of the android sites has a quote from Motorola basically saying it's Verizon's fault now, not theirs.
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Yea... i dont have a link handy but one of the android sites has a quote from Motorola basically saying it's Verizon's fault now, not theirs.
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And Verizon blames moto and refuses to acknowledge that the update exists
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Lol yes. Not surprised but still pissed. I guess VZW has to make sure all the bloat is in tact and exploits are "gone" before they release. Siiiigh.
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How do these OTA updates not "leak"? Surely someone, somewhere has it.
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I've read nothing nor heard anything relating to a Verizon Moto X update. Not even as much as speculation that Verizon may be prepping the update.
wah.... I am wanting that update badly for the camera.....
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Can one of you with a 16 GB model post your system version? TIA
On average how far behind is Verizon usually compared to other carriers? Like not exaggerating, literally multiple months or just a few weeks to a month?
mikeosu said:
On average how far behind is Verizon usually compared to other carriers? Like not exaggerating, literally multiple months or just a few weeks to a month?
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Usually months 2-4. Look how far after a new device is released on all carriers and then verizon gets it 4 months later.
luniz7 said:
Usually months 2-4. Look how far after a new device is released on all carriers and then verizon gets it 4 months later.
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That's ridiculous. They better watch out once the other carriers get their LTE coverage out to full capacity. Verizon might be on to 5G or LTE-A but there will be a lot of content people getting newer phones and faster updates on the other carriers even if original LTE is "old".
Verizon isn't always that far behind with updates but with the Moto X update I will admit this is getting a bit ridiculous.
remember that verizon also is prob going to patch the camera for X/Ultra/Maxx/Mini at the same time... i work for an indirect verizon retailer and have a good relationship with 2 motorola reps. the patch is coming as far as they have told me.. just waiting for verizon to finalize on all four devices. TMo/ATT/Sprint have one device.. Verizon has 4 LOL. Patience grasshoppers.. patience.
If thats the case then I love that they are holding up 1 phone that could have 2 core issues resolved just so they can update 4 devices at once......
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The droid 3 is not listed no more on verizons web page no more and so does that mean they have stopted selling it because if thats so then we call all say 100% no to ics if im wrong then y is it not lised and will the lg ally is still there so i can be way off too
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The Droid 4 has been out a while so why would Verizon still stock an old version of the same product line unless it was on clearance or refurbs.
The Incredible 2 is also not on the site but it has been confirmed to get ICS.
(By the way, the only "Global ready" Android phone on VZW at the moment is the Droid Pro. Huh?)
It's no longer sold as new. Just given as refurbs.
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The Incredible 2 is also not on the site but it has been confirmed to get ICS.
(By the way, the only "Global ready" Android phone on VZW at the moment is the Droid Pro. Huh?)
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I think this is because the Droid Pro is yet to be phased out yet like the D3 has been by the D4? ...maybe. IDK!
XT860 is no longer on the bell site but they still have it in stores. Go. Figure
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By the looks of it i will have to get a new phone to stay updated but i dont wont to get a new one for the fact that they drop the support a few mouths after a phone comes out
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By the looks of it i will have to get a new phone to stay updated but i dont wont to get a new one for the fact that they drop the support a few mouths after a phone comes out
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Which support got dropped? Are you unable to get a warranty replacement? Did not Motorola just deliver an OTA update?
That said, if definitive OS upgrades over the course of a two year contract is critical to you, your best bet going forward is the iPhone.
Endoroid said:
XT860 is no longer on the bell site but they still have it in stores. Go. Figure
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There probably have not been any new D3's of any variant made since the D4 came out or even before. Everything we have seen since then was probably just using up the stock already built. Any stores that still have them would likely keep selling them until they are gone.
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Which support got dropped? Are you unable to get a warranty replacement? Did not Motorola just deliver an OTA update?
That said, if definitive OS upgrades over the course of a two year contract is critical to you, your best bet going forward is the iPhone.
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Will im talking about working cm roms when i had the xperia play from verizon locked bootloader no cm roms unless i payed to unlocked the bootloader then i got the droid 3 its a hell of a lot better then the others and some cm roms (thanks hashcode) but every thing is not working but its geting better but verizon is soon going to stop suport for the droid 3 moto is still sending us updats but its still possible we will not get a ota if ics and i was thinking a of geting a iphone but i like android to much to change os
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I'm going to get flamed for this but I'm getting irritated with Verizon or Motorola on how long this is taking. The 4.4 update took 4 weeks max and was a big update and this "minor" update has taken 2 months.....I don't understand what the hold up is. I bought this phone off contract because I wanted a phone that would receive updates relatively quickly and based my decision on the fast update to KitKat. I know there are a few Moto people here.....any insight on the delay? I do understand this is minor....just like being up to date. Okay...everyone yell at me for asking about this .
I'm used to updates taking 6-12 months, so I'm not complaining. It hasn't been that long since the last update.
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I'm going to get flamed for this but I'm getting irritated with Verizon or Motorola on how long this is taking. The 4.4 update took 4 weeks max and was a big update and this "minor" update has taken 2 months.....I don't understand what the hold up is. I bought this phone off contract because I wanted a phone that would receive updates relatively quickly and based my decision on the fast update to KitKat. I know there are a few Moto people here.....any insight on the delay? I do understand this is minor....just like being up to date. Okay...everyone yell at me for asking about this .
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Reason why because people are going to hard brick the frigging devices, all unlockable boot loader firmware will be sent out first to see how things go, at that point moto will send out Verizon and at&t firmware and watch all the hard bricks that happen, hope I'm wrong .
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How come with have a 4.4.2 deodexed verison for Verizon? Isnt that the release?
flashallthetime said:
Reason why because people are going to hard brick the frigging devices, all unlockable boot loader firmware will be sent out first to see how things go, at that point moto will send out Verizon and at&t firmware and watch all the hard bricks that happen, hope I'm wrong .
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Well, that's a reasonable explanation . Why are they messing with the bootloader with every update? I think it was you that posted in another thread about PM'ing this info rather than posting it on an open thread? If you don't mind I'd appreciate your explanation on this..If it's not a hassle PM'ing me with the info you have would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
The first update was a special occasion. Verizon never pushes crap out that fast. Money changed hands to get the first X and G updates through carriers ASAP is my guess. The carriers also got burned by the 4.4 exchange bugs which have probably been causing thousands of customer service calls and returns.
We're on a more normal schedule now, although still faster than Samsung or HTC as there is little to modify. Expect Verizon to be last with a 3-6 month delay for updates. Sunday will be 2 months since 4.4.2 pushed to the nexus 5. I would still be (pleasantly) surprised if we saw it before March or even April.
If you bought this phone thinking every update would be within weeks I'll remind you than a single data point does not make a trend.
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Ryno77 said:
Well, that's a reasonable explanation . Why are they messing with the bootloader with every update? I think it was you that posted in another thread about PM'ing this info rather than posting it on an open thread? If you don't mind I'd appreciate your explanation on this..If it's not a hassle PM'ing me with the info you have would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
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Verizon and at&t have locked boot loader on their consumer version, we all know about slapmymoto and all the root hacks, so does moto. The reason why the eliminated boot loader downgrade is due to slapmymoto, no other reason to do it. Just my thoughts . Moto left the vulnerability in the 4.4 upgrade , well its gone now so it should decrease hard bricks in theory but there's always someone who wants to stick a square peg in a round hole
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I'm pretty sure downgrading the bootloader hasn't been possible on many recent moto phones. I agree that it's likely to prevent exploits, but it's not something new or unique to the X
Having just received my Verizon Dev Ed only a week or so ago, it updated to 4.4 almost immediately. What's better about 4.4.2?
We should also stress that some people have the update. Motorola is known for doing "Soak Tests" which, is a good idea. For production devices even if you HAVE all the specs on the device and drivers and such with the source code for them so as a developer you can go and in really look at everything... Takes time to not only make sure it works with the device on a basic level (compiles, boots, phone calls, etc..) there is the fact that bugs crop up and I have read a lot of things about it being pulled because of devices being locked - that of course has to be solved and since each device comes with a bootloader for the carrier it is on (unless I'm wrong in that since Sprint uses the 1060 as well and has the update) I would imagine Verizon is being cautious and giving it extra time. Perhaps Verizon noticed some bugs and the other carriers said to release and work on a fix later and Verizon said - no, fix it first.
I know it is hard to think of Verizon as a 'good guy' like that but it is possible, last thing they need is another phone update the kills devices - they've played that game before.
Anyway, just my two cents worth. I think it is being tested and tweaked before release.
Comparing this to the fact that my Galaxy Note 8.0 (which has no carrier cruft) still is on v4.2.2 and has been since October, so... I'm pretty happy with waiting a few months knowing that they'll get it out to me for the Moto X.
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What's better about 4.4.2?
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My question exactly. I bet most people who harp about updates don't even know what the changes are. I have 4.4.2 on my N7 and I can't tell a difference in performance compared to 4.4. Most of the changes are camera related for the N5 and N7 which doesn't affect the Moto x's camera since it's updates come from the play store.
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Reason why because people are going to hard brick the frigging devices, all unlockable boot loader firmware will be sent out first to see how things go, at that point moto will send out Verizon and at&t firmware and watch all the hard bricks that happen, hope I'm wrong .
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You're not wrong. LOL. Unfortunately.
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Verizon customer complaining about slow updates? Surprise surprise. Dude there are phones on Verizon right now that are still on 4.1-4.3 I'd relax and thank my lucky stars Motorola is only taking months instead of years.
If fast updates were so important you should have gotten a developer edition. I've had 4.4.2 for at least a week now and I had most of the 4.4 bugs fixed months ago
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Verizon customer complaining about slow updates? Surprise surprise. Dude there are phones on Verizon right now that are still on 4.1-4.3 I'd relax and thank my lucky stars Motorola is only taking months instead of years.
If fast updates were so important you should have gotten a developer edition. I've had 4.4.2 for at least a week now and I had most of the 4.4 bugs fixed months ago
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Developer Editions don't get updates any faster than non-DE versions. The carriers still have to release the updates. I have a VZW DE, and I do not have 4.4.2 yet.
You do realize that you can install it yourself right? There are images all over the place now.
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You do realize that you can install it yourself right? There are images all over the place now.
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I don't think there are Verizon/xt1060 4.4.2 images available yet. There are 4.4 images readily available though,
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You do realize that you can install it yourself right? There are images all over the place now.
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I understand I can flash the system image from another service provider. Everything I've come across is a sbf file....I can't flash just system from that can I? My last two phones have been from Samsung so I'm not too familiar with this stuff yet.
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I understand I can flash the system image from another service provider. Everything I've come across is a sbf file....I can't flash just system from that can I? My last two phones have been from Samsung so I'm not too familiar with this stuff yet.
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I highly discourage you from doing this. There have been several people bricking by flashing the wrong thing. I almost bricked mine, but was able to save it. Then I had to spend 2 hours on the phone with Verizon because something I flashed made my phone show up as a non-Verizon device and temporarily blacklisted it. It now registers as a test device in Verizon's system, and I don't know what the implications of that is if I try to sell it later to someone else.
It was absolutely not worth it and I should have waited for my carrier to officially release an upgrade. I'm sure some here will disagree with me, but I'm telling you from personal experience.
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I highly discourage you from doing this. There have been several people bricking by flashing the wrong thing. I almost bricked mine, but was able to save it. Then I had to spend 2 hours on the phone with Verizon because something I flashed made my phone show up as a non-Verizon device and temporarily blacklisted it. It now registers as a test device in Verizon's system, and I don't know what the implications of that is if I try to sell it later to someone else.
It was absolutely not worth it and I should have waited for my carrier to officially release an upgrade. I'm sure some here will disagree with me, but I'm telling you from personal experience.
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Yes..this. be patient. 4.4.2 won't change your life or anything.
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I to agree with the previous poster, as you said you came from a Sammy product, forget and throw all the past experience with Sammy out the window. Moto is a totally different beast. Wait till your sbf firmware is available and flash that. I have seen to many know it alls royally screw their brand new moto's up. Patience soon all will be for told , I can see in the not so distance future the 4.4.2 update
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V is tight on information regarding availability at its stores. Arrrggg...
Anyone have an ideal time frame?
verizon hasnt announced it yet, so nobody knows.
Latest rumor is Verizon will not be carrying the Nexus 6. They wanted their own version. Like any other phone. Bloated apps that can't be removed, maybe even a locked bootloader. Google said NO and now maybe it won't be offered on Verizon.
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Finally Nexus 6
flyaway718 said:
V is tight on information regarding availability at its stores. Arrrggg...
Anyone have an ideal time frame?
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It's supposedly the 13th of December, a few sites on the web are announcing this now.
rebretz000 said:
Latest rumor is Verizon will not be carrying the Nexus 6. They wanted their own version. Like any other phone. Bloated apps that can't be removed, maybe even a locked bootloader. Google said NO and now maybe it won't be offered on Verizon.
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That doesn't hold weight, google mostly allowed it to at&t . . carrier locked, custom boot animation, carrier specific bloat, even at&t branding on the device.
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That doesn't hold weight, google mostly allowed it to at&t . . carrier locked, custom boot animation, carrier specific bloat, even at&t branding on the device.
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The AT&T version is only carrier locked until you pay it off.
That's what I've heard from someone who seems to be in the know and right a lot.
http://androidspin.com/2014/12/02/r...us-6-become-available-saturday-december-13th/
I hope this is true.
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Even if this is not true.... I do feel like we're edging closer. I spoke to rep at my local store yesterday and she said that it was def coming.... Just no date. In the past we got no information whatsoever.
I hope they do come soon. I need a new Nano SIM for mine.
I'm going to love when they finally get it. As long as Verizon doesn't pull the same **** the did with the m8, and try to lock the boot loader, idc what kind of bloat it has as I'll immediately be putting a custom ROM on it. And as long as they don't brand it with that ugly vzw logo.
Sometime mid to late December. At least that's what the rumors are saying.
It is almost a year since I got my N6 from Verizon. I would want to upgrade by December. Are the alleged Nexuses from HTC worth it?
Your question is a bit premature. Until the upcoming Nexus phones are released, there's no way to know whether they will be "worth" it or not.
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It is almost a year since I got my N6 from Verizon. I would want to upgrade by December. Are the alleged Nexuses from HTC worth it?
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and you know for a fact that htc is building the next nexus? its a rumor btw.. until there is solid proof. only nexus that htc built was the nexus one. and it was worth it, especially for the time. and it even was the first smartphone to make it to space
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and you know for a fact that htc is building the next nexus? its a rumor btw.. until there is solid proof. only nexus that htc built was the nexus one. and it was worth it, especially for the time. and it even was the first smartphone to make it to space
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I have no insider information, so yes it is the current rumor. Are there any others?
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I have no insider information, so yes it is the current rumor. Are there any others?
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Another rumor is that HTC and Huawei will manufacture the next Nexus devices but they'd be designed by Google.
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If it comes with a SD820 processor then sure.
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Will VZW sell a Huawei phone and/or allow it on their network? I got burned last year with a phone from Moto, that at that time, could not activate.
Considering how the current Nexus phones are only available in the Google store, VZW should allow it.
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Considering how the current Nexus phones are only available in the Google store, VZW should allow it.
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I could ask my VZW store before I buy it, but they are not the most knowledgeable about that sort of thing.
ronaldheld said:
I could ask my VZW store before I buy it, but they are not the most knowledgeable about that sort of thing.
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Lol calm down, they just released two new ones, still lots of time until the new one comes out.
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Lol calm down, they just released two new ones, still lots of time until the new one comes out.
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Never hurts to plan ahead and get some advice, here. Maybe they will be announced at MWC?
I would relax a bit guys. We have almost 6 MO the before the next nexus comes out.
I wouldn't be surprised if HTC does build it. Huawei on the other hand. Not very likely as the 6p was one of the worst selling nexus devices and most people refused to by it just because of who made it.
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I would relax a bit guys. We have almost 6 MO the before the next nexus comes out.
I wouldn't be surprised if HTC does build it. Huawei on the other hand. Not very likely as the 6p was one of the worst selling nexus devices and most people refused to by it just because of who made it.
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Six month for every carrier but Verizon. Should one expect 2 models?
ronaldheld said:
Six month for every carrier but Verizon. Should one expect 2 models?
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Im not sure google will make that mistake again.
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Im not sure google will make that mistake again.
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Verizon or two models lol
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Verizon or two models lol
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Either one. Due to the nature of Verizons network any AOSP device is gonna have trouble. Also Google will not make the same mistake of 2 nexus devices.
Google could have learned its session, but we will see. Verizon may sell none of them but allow them on their network, to eventually sell one of them. Did Verizon sl the 5X?
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Google could have learned its session, but we will see. Verizon may sell none of them but allow them on their network, to eventually sell one of them. Did Verizon sl the 5X?
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To be honest I am not sure. Verizon is not here.
Their biggest issue is the open source licensing. Alot of the telephone stuff for working on CDMA is closed sourced so it is hard to make it open source.
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To be honest I am not sure. Verizon is not here.
Their biggest issue is the open source licensing. Alot of the telephone stuff for working on CDMA is closed sourced so it is hard to make it open source.
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My view is Verizon wants as much control as possible and the Nexus phones give the user too much freedom
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My view is Verizon wants as much control as possible and the Nexus phones give the user too much freedom
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While this is true, the basics are that the stuff to run the phone operations on CDMA network are all closed sourced. So you cant really release a device that is supposed to be completely open source running a CDMA network. Thats why there are always issues with nexus devices and CDMA networks. You see the same thing with sprint the last few CDMA networks in the world as most use the updated GSM network.
So my phone recently upgraded itself to .49 without me telling it to. I'd here any way to downgrade it to .44? I was planning to unlock it but hadn't gotten around to it. Thanks!
No.
NO.the .49 already update the bootloader
FrostedWaffle said:
So my phone recently upgraded itself to .49 without me telling it to. I'd here any way to downgrade it to .44? I was planning to unlock it but hadn't gotten around to it. Thanks!
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Unfortunately friend I'm on the same boat. I've looked everywhere and everyone says its not possible as of right now. I'm sure there will be a solution in the future We just gotta wait it out.
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blackra1n said:
Unfortunately friend I'm on the same boat. I've looked everywhere and everyone says its not possible as of right now. I'm sure there will be a solution in the future We just gotta wait it out.
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Hate to be pessimistic, but don't be so sure. Took a year to find the first exploit when Sunshine devs were actively looking. Best bet is to sell it on Swappa and buy another that does not have the "49" OTA trojan horse Verizon update.
ChazzMatt said:
Hate to be pessimistic, but don't be so sure. Took a year to find the first exploit when Sunshine devs were actively looking. Best bet is to sell it on Swappa and buy another that does not have the "49" OTA trojan horse Verizon update.
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Oh well, I guess I'll just wait on MM from Motorola then. Gonna go with a Nexus next time lol. Thanks for helping me to learn not to trust you Verizon!
FrostedWaffle said:
Oh well, I guess I'll just wait on MM from Motorola then. Gonna go with a Nexus next time lol. Thanks for helping me to learn not to trust you Verizon!
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Right. Verizon could easily allow Motorola to unlock the bootloaders. Verizon is the one who demands Motorola lock it down and keep it locked down.
The identical Quark to the Droid Turbo, the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, same FCC ID, same Verizon bands, etc. runs just fine on Verizon with an activated Verizon SIM card and has an easily unlockable bootloader via the Motorola website. It's sort of the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo XT1254, but only comes in 32GB. No 64GB available.
But it's identical in every way. People have even flashed Droid Turbo stock ROM over it.
Point is, Verizon is to blame. They want to own and control your phone, no matter what.