It is almost a year since I got my N6 from Verizon. I would want to upgrade by December. Are the alleged Nexuses from HTC worth it?
Your question is a bit premature. Until the upcoming Nexus phones are released, there's no way to know whether they will be "worth" it or not.
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It is almost a year since I got my N6 from Verizon. I would want to upgrade by December. Are the alleged Nexuses from HTC worth it?
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and you know for a fact that htc is building the next nexus? its a rumor btw.. until there is solid proof. only nexus that htc built was the nexus one. and it was worth it, especially for the time. and it even was the first smartphone to make it to space
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and you know for a fact that htc is building the next nexus? its a rumor btw.. until there is solid proof. only nexus that htc built was the nexus one. and it was worth it, especially for the time. and it even was the first smartphone to make it to space
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I have no insider information, so yes it is the current rumor. Are there any others?
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I have no insider information, so yes it is the current rumor. Are there any others?
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Another rumor is that HTC and Huawei will manufacture the next Nexus devices but they'd be designed by Google.
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If it comes with a SD820 processor then sure.
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Will VZW sell a Huawei phone and/or allow it on their network? I got burned last year with a phone from Moto, that at that time, could not activate.
Considering how the current Nexus phones are only available in the Google store, VZW should allow it.
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Considering how the current Nexus phones are only available in the Google store, VZW should allow it.
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I could ask my VZW store before I buy it, but they are not the most knowledgeable about that sort of thing.
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I could ask my VZW store before I buy it, but they are not the most knowledgeable about that sort of thing.
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Lol calm down, they just released two new ones, still lots of time until the new one comes out.
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Lol calm down, they just released two new ones, still lots of time until the new one comes out.
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Never hurts to plan ahead and get some advice, here. Maybe they will be announced at MWC?
I would relax a bit guys. We have almost 6 MO the before the next nexus comes out.
I wouldn't be surprised if HTC does build it. Huawei on the other hand. Not very likely as the 6p was one of the worst selling nexus devices and most people refused to by it just because of who made it.
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I would relax a bit guys. We have almost 6 MO the before the next nexus comes out.
I wouldn't be surprised if HTC does build it. Huawei on the other hand. Not very likely as the 6p was one of the worst selling nexus devices and most people refused to by it just because of who made it.
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Six month for every carrier but Verizon. Should one expect 2 models?
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Six month for every carrier but Verizon. Should one expect 2 models?
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Im not sure google will make that mistake again.
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Im not sure google will make that mistake again.
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Verizon or two models lol
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Verizon or two models lol
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Either one. Due to the nature of Verizons network any AOSP device is gonna have trouble. Also Google will not make the same mistake of 2 nexus devices.
Google could have learned its session, but we will see. Verizon may sell none of them but allow them on their network, to eventually sell one of them. Did Verizon sl the 5X?
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Google could have learned its session, but we will see. Verizon may sell none of them but allow them on their network, to eventually sell one of them. Did Verizon sl the 5X?
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To be honest I am not sure. Verizon is not here.
Their biggest issue is the open source licensing. Alot of the telephone stuff for working on CDMA is closed sourced so it is hard to make it open source.
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To be honest I am not sure. Verizon is not here.
Their biggest issue is the open source licensing. Alot of the telephone stuff for working on CDMA is closed sourced so it is hard to make it open source.
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My view is Verizon wants as much control as possible and the Nexus phones give the user too much freedom
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My view is Verizon wants as much control as possible and the Nexus phones give the user too much freedom
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While this is true, the basics are that the stuff to run the phone operations on CDMA network are all closed sourced. So you cant really release a device that is supposed to be completely open source running a CDMA network. Thats why there are always issues with nexus devices and CDMA networks. You see the same thing with sprint the last few CDMA networks in the world as most use the updated GSM network.
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Is the OTA available for Verizon yet?
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Is the OTA available for Verizon yet?
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It hasnt been released as far as i know.
i dont think they have even started the process for a soak test afaik
That is what I figured, good ole slow verizon. Can you pull the APK from another carrier for the camera? Would that work?
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That is what I figured, good ole slow verizon. Can you pull the APK from another carrier for the camera? Would that work?
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From what i hear, apk won't work. Will have to wait for the VZW OTA.
I called to complain about some issues with my X and asked about the update and they have the update version as the current version for the phone, but if you buy one, you still have to wait for the update. They say that Motorola is the one holding the update due to a staged rollout depending on when you bought the phone. Not sure i believe that.
Yea... i dont have a link handy but one of the android sites has a quote from Motorola basically saying it's Verizon's fault now, not theirs.
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Yea... i dont have a link handy but one of the android sites has a quote from Motorola basically saying it's Verizon's fault now, not theirs.
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And Verizon blames moto and refuses to acknowledge that the update exists
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Lol yes. Not surprised but still pissed. I guess VZW has to make sure all the bloat is in tact and exploits are "gone" before they release. Siiiigh.
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How do these OTA updates not "leak"? Surely someone, somewhere has it.
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I've read nothing nor heard anything relating to a Verizon Moto X update. Not even as much as speculation that Verizon may be prepping the update.
wah.... I am wanting that update badly for the camera.....
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Can one of you with a 16 GB model post your system version? TIA
On average how far behind is Verizon usually compared to other carriers? Like not exaggerating, literally multiple months or just a few weeks to a month?
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On average how far behind is Verizon usually compared to other carriers? Like not exaggerating, literally multiple months or just a few weeks to a month?
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Usually months 2-4. Look how far after a new device is released on all carriers and then verizon gets it 4 months later.
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Usually months 2-4. Look how far after a new device is released on all carriers and then verizon gets it 4 months later.
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That's ridiculous. They better watch out once the other carriers get their LTE coverage out to full capacity. Verizon might be on to 5G or LTE-A but there will be a lot of content people getting newer phones and faster updates on the other carriers even if original LTE is "old".
Verizon isn't always that far behind with updates but with the Moto X update I will admit this is getting a bit ridiculous.
remember that verizon also is prob going to patch the camera for X/Ultra/Maxx/Mini at the same time... i work for an indirect verizon retailer and have a good relationship with 2 motorola reps. the patch is coming as far as they have told me.. just waiting for verizon to finalize on all four devices. TMo/ATT/Sprint have one device.. Verizon has 4 LOL. Patience grasshoppers.. patience.
If thats the case then I love that they are holding up 1 phone that could have 2 core issues resolved just so they can update 4 devices at once......
Is there anyone else who will get their Nexus 6 from Verizon? I will give it a try for a couple of weeks assuming I can easily root and install a custom recovery.
Nope. Got mine months ago and am already using it on Verizon.
I know I am wayyy late but there must be a person or two who will buy it.
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I know I am wayyy late but there must be a person or two who will buy it.
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Safe to say multiple people will buy it. Not sure what the point of this is?
I just changed my mind about getting this phone and wondered how many on Verizon will be doing the same.
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I just changed my mind about getting this phone and wondered how many on Verizon will be doing the same.
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I will be getting it. I doubt it will be locked down as bad as their Samsung devices.
Since it is a Nexus device we won't have to worry about kernels and locked bootloaders.
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I will be getting it. I doubt it will be locked down as bad as their Samsung devices.
Since it is a Nexus device we won't have to worry
Anyone see this, as it concerns me: http://rootzwiki.com/news/verizon-might-allow-unlock-nexus-6-bootloader-just-crazy/
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johnciaccio said:
I will be getting it. I doubt it will be locked down as bad as their Samsung devices.
Since it is a Nexus device we won't have to worry
Anyone see this, as it concerns me: http://rootzwiki.com/news/verizon-might-allow-unlock-nexus-6-bootloader-just-crazy/
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4 month old opinion article on a dead website.
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ronaldheld said:
4 month old opinion article on a dead website.
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This is true, but we know how Verizon likes to lock up their phones. I am more optimistic than a few hours ago.
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i dont like verizon, so ill never be on verizon, but fastboot oem unlock IS a nexus feature, introduced to us through the nexus one and every nexus after. while verizons version can be sim locked, all nexus come with an unlockable bootloader, even if the provider doesnt like it. and im pretty sure that this fact wont change. heck, im pretty sure the att version would have had a locked bootloader, if they were allowed to add that in.
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i dont like verizon, so ill never be on verizon, but fastboot oem unlock IS a nexus feature, introduced to us through the nexus one and every nexus after. while verizons version can be sim locked, all nexus come with an unlockable bootloader, even if the provider doesnt like it. and im pretty sure that this fact wont change. heck, im pretty sure the att version would have had a locked bootloader, if they were allowed to add that in.[/QUOTEI am only slightly concerned.
Verizon tends to be pretty good about upgrades and such which is why I am with them.
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Except for the locked phones I am reasonable satisfied with Verizon.
I searched but could find no info
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I searched but could find no info
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ask someone higher up in the verizon chain of command, thats the only way that you will know.
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but seriously, you are asking if they will stock a phone that hasnt been released yet, nor not even told if it actually will be released, yet.
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ask someone higher up in the verizon chain of command, thats the only way that you will know.
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but seriously, you are asking if they will stock a phone that hasnt been released yet, nor not even told if it actually will be released, yet.
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Ok thanks
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but i think they wont. i believe google is getting away from carriers selling them, as in look at the n6p and the 5x.
Verizon employee here, they don't tell us much, I do know that Google was very restrictive on who they let carry the 5x/6p so dunno.
I believe you have to buy it elsewhere and hope Verizon will allow it on its network.
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Verizon employee here, they don't tell us much, I do know that Google was very restrictive on who they let carry the 5x/6p so dunno.
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Its not really google that is restricting it. It is the out dated CDMA tech that verizon uses/used. Soon that wont be an issue as they finally move over the GSM for LTE.
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Its not really google that is restricting it. It is the out dated CDMA tech that verizon uses/used. Soon that wont be an issue as they finally move over the GSM for LTE.
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It's not that, the nexus has always supported all networks. issue is does it generate revenue and does Google want to partner. I can't say for sure since I don't speak for Verizon.
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It's not that, the nexus has always supported all networks. issue is does it generate revenue and does Google want to partner. I can't say for sure since I don't speak for Verizon.
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No they havent. If you look back there have been a few Nexus devices that Verizon did support. Verizon controls what devices are allowed on their network. I was a tier 3 support the first time the nexus was released and left the company after being an OPs manager. I am fully aware of what they require to carry a device.
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No they havent. If you look back there have been a few Nexus devices that Verizon did support. Verizon controls what devices are allowed on their network. I was a tier 3 support the first time the nexus was released and left the company after being an OPs manager. I am fully aware of what they require to carry a device.
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You mean tier 2 tech or ert, or crt?
I'm tier 2 tech and I can tell you we have no idea if the next is coming.
None of us can tell you for sure. The good news is Verizon has carried prior nexus phones and supported multiple unlocked nexus devices recently and other unlocked devices too. However, the bad news is the rumor is HTC is making the next Nexus and their last unlocked phone was the A9 which was supposed to support Verizon but Verizon didn't allow it.
Personally, I see Verizon supporting it, but that's just a guess.
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You mean tier 2 tech or ert, or crt?
I'm tier 2 tech and I can tell you we have no idea if the next is coming.
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I know you don't. Even the Ops managers only get a notice after the decision is made. They most likely dropped the tier 3 into something else. Heck I spent most of my time updating and writing a bunch M&P then I did anything else. Heck wouldn't surprise me if some of them are still in use. But that was back before they tied the techs hands.
We will see. As Verizon is moving to a GSM base then they should but it will be their call in the end.
Yeah I'm precluded from quite a few devices, one plus, axion etc.
looks like verizon probably will sell the 2016 nexus devices http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/05/yep-verizon-will-probably-sell-the-2016-nexus-phones/
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looks like verizon probably will sell the 2016 nexus devices http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/05/yep-verizon-will-probably-sell-the-2016-nexus-phones/
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I read it on Phonearena I wonder if Verizon will negate the ability to unlock the bootloader, inhibiting rooting and custom recovery?
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I read it on Phonearena I wonder if Verizon will negate the ability to unlock the bootloader, inhibiting rooting and custom recovery?
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that's a whole other question! if we look into history, any of the nexii that verizon has sold, has always retained their unlockable bootloaders.
Yes they will. They just won't be nexus branded it seems. So you'll get bloated "droid" versions.
https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/761435995627663360
wrong, I have never had Verizon not let me use what I want, as long as the bands are supported. And who cares anyway, Nexus devises are not carrier locked (unless you have an upgrade you want to use.)
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I read it on Phonearena I wonder if Verizon will negate the ability to unlock the bootloader, inhibiting rooting and custom recovery?
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No reason to think that. They didn't do that for the 6. Doubt google would allow it.
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I read it on Phonearena I wonder if Verizon will negate the ability to unlock the bootloader, inhibiting rooting and custom recovery?
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If they do I"am sure some xda devs will crack it.
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...06/oneplus-6t-tmobile-us-android-phone-report
Well this is interesting news and great for us T-Mobile customers.
The big question that remains is... will the T-Mobile version have a bootloader that can't be unlocked? If so, the deal is off. However, if the bootloader on the T-Mobile version is unlockable, this may be a great option for those of us on T-Mobile. It will allow me to sell the OP6 and pickup the 6T through my carrier, with no up-front cost, using my active 'JUMP! On Demand' program.
Pretty excited to see how this pans out. But I'll remain perfectly happy with my OP6, in the mean time.
What would be the difference between carrier and international unlock phone?
The bootloader would most likely stay unlocked. Due to the open betas it does and os previews. T-Mobile doesn't lock the devices it's the phone maker. And it's also the warrenty. Us has rule that if the bootloader is unlocked the warrenty is void. But OnePlus give you the tools to fix your device and doesn't void your warrenty if you unlock.
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What would be the difference between carrier and international unlock phone?
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That's still up in the air. It will come down to whether or not the bootloader is unlockable on the T-Mobile version. But, as joemossjr mentioned, it's unlikely that the T-Mobile variant of the 6T would prevent you from unlocking the bootloader, considering it goes against everything we know and love with previous/current OnePlus phones. But, time will tell.
It would be nice to be able to get the phone on my JoD. Of course I might have to wait as I just got the red OP6
Read about this today... definitely has my attention! The 6T spec's sound awesome...
It will definitely be network locked.
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I'm excited about this, but also curious about what changes will be made for the 6t. We may see an even bigger bump than from the 5 to the 5t, as this will be huge opportunity for OnePlus. What do you guys think?
I want to know what optimized for the carriers network means. Does that mean the unlocked version you get from OP won't be the same you pick up from T-mobile?
They both would have band 71 (the 6 does) so what are they optimizing?
I definitely want to take advantage of band 71 since my 5T isn't capable. Just curious to see the differences in the 2.
If the carrier version truly is better somehow, as long as it stayed the same price & didn't include bloat ware, I'd be tempted.
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This is horrible news. This is going to ruin op devices. They are going to get ready more expensive they are going to require you to buy a plan that your locked into for years. This will make it harder to get op devices in the future as well since they will do credit checks and all that to see if your even eligible. I hope this doesn't happen. The whole point of these phones is being unlocked already.
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This is horrible news. This is going to ruin op devices. They are going to get ready more expensive they are going to require you to buy a plan that your locked into for years. This will make it harder to get op devices in the future as well since they will do credit checks and all that to see if your even eligible. I hope this doesn't happen. The whole point of these phones is being unlocked already.
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LOL don't panic! Geez.
#1 there are no contracts for T-mobile and hasn't been for about 4 years or so.
#2 It will require a credit check if you do a payment plan over 24 months instead of buying it outright.
#3 You can STILL just buy the phone FROM OnePlus. They aren't only selling it through OnePlus. Buying through T-mobile will just allow you to make payments if you can't or don't want to pay in full upfront.
People actually use Tmobile???
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People actually use Tmobile???
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Are you trying to be sarcastic?
Lol
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People actually use Tmobile???
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People still use AT&T?
People still use Smartphones?! [emoji50]
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People still use AT&T?
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People actually use Tmobile???
Liking our tmobile $30. 5 gig plan's for the last 5 years.
Am I the only one who doesn't trust an American Cellular Provider to NOT completely destroy the software before they offer the phone and then delay standard updates for six months to a year? I think OnePlus would have been better off negotiating with Best Buy and making Amazon an official retailer (hell Walmart is an option too here).
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Am I the only one who doesn't trust an American Cellular Provider to NOT completely destroy the software before they offer the phone and then delay standard updates for six months to a year? I think OnePlus would have been better off negotiating with Best Buy and making Amazon an official retailer (hell Walmart is an option too here).
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Out off all the carriers. T-Mobile is the best one not to add a bunch of crap to it. Historically they don't do much to the overall software.
Everyone needs to relax, geez....[emoji849][emoji41]
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6T ~ T-Mobile :laugh:
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With the 3's and 3a's on T-Mobile, I am almost certain they will; but I have not heard/seen anything official. Hoping someone with some inside knowledge can confirm or deny.
Really hoping they don't go back to "exclusive", or wait until the 4a comes out to sell it on other carriers.
Their contract ended with Verizon so it would be very unwise of Google to limit the carriers it sells its devices on.
I highly doubt they'd renew a partnership given how successful the Pixel has been lately, and their move to sell the Pixel 3a at other carriers highly suggests that their premium devices will follow the same trend
If that isn't enough confirmation then I don't know what is. Their exclusivity with Verizon was initially a great thing to get things rolling, but with each iteration of the Pixel following that, it's really done more harm than good.
And with them supposedly talking to D ish about establishing their own full fledged carrier it seems even less likely that they wouldn't embrace other carriers too given that their new carrier would literally use TMobile and Sprint towers to comply with the 4 carrier requirement needed for a Sprint and TMobile merger.
So no, I don't have any direct information to state otherwise, but on a financial level it would be awful of Google to not endorse other carriers.
Honestly, what I'm more interested in is knowing how they plan to support Verizon's standard for 5g while complying with the others as it vastly differs... Or better yet, if it will support 5g at all
Doubts and hopes are what I started with, mate. I am well aware of the history behind the deals and partnerships.
Looking for confirmation from an inside source.
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Doubts and hopes are what I started with, mate. I am well aware of the history behind the deals and partnerships.
Looking for confirmation from an inside source.
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I spoke to my friend at T-MOBILE and she confirmed that they will in fact be selling the 4.
It's not like it really matters since Google sells it direct anyways. Even if it was available from my carrier (AT&T in my case) I'd still buy it from Google so the carrier can't get its hands on it.
I would never buy it from a carrier. They will lock the bootloader and no root for you! Just look at the forums for the recent pixel 3a/3axl. Even if you don't plan on rooting now, it's nice to know you at least have the option should you choose to. You can also finance through Google.
The OnePlus devices may be instructive: These had bootloaders which could be unlocked after they were sim unlocked. The timing for sim unlock depended on how good a customer you were in some cases but primarily was based on having the device paid off. The smarter money if no deals were involved was simply buying from OnePlus direct because the updates are significantly faster. I would expect something similar here if it is indeed sold by Tmo.
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It's not like it really matters since Google sells it direct anyways. Even if it was available from my carrier (AT&T in my case) I'd still buy it from Google so the carrier can't get its hands on it.
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I would never buy it from a carrier. They will lock the bootloader and no root for you! Just look at the forums for the recent pixel 3a/3axl. Even if you don't plan on rooting now, it's nice to know you at least have the option should you choose to. You can also finance through Google.
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Amen!! Haven't used a carrier phone since the Nexus 6P was released!
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Amen!! Haven't used a carrier phone since the Nexus 6P was released!
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It is true !
The page is live, but if they really lock the bootloader, you can count me out! I'm still pissed about the fingerprint reader anyway!
https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/google-phone-deals
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The page is live, but if they really lock the bootloader, you can count me out! I'm still pissed about the fingerprint reader anyway!
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Well, if it's fully paid for, I don't see why they won't let you unlock it. Unless you're going for a plan, which is completely understandable. Not everyone has a grand to drop at one time. But at the same time, you can't really gripe if they don't let you unlock a device you haven't fully paid for.