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How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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The popular carriers like AT&T and VZW don't allow it - so that prevents a large group from doing it.
Cause most carrier phones don't have their option to unlock the boot loader. But yes if you do unluck the boot loader you can root. But you can also root without unlocking thanks to jcase's pwnmymoto root method.
BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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Most people aren't talking about it because I guess they figure you know whether or not you bought a phone that could be unlocked. If you are bootloader unlocked then yes - you just flash su.zip in cwm or twrp and you are good to go.
So if you are on Sprint or T-mobile, US Cellular or international go for it.
Unlocking the bootloader voids warranties as well...doing it through the website makes that void permanent whereas if you did it without the website you can still have your phone go through the warranty process as long as you unroot and relock the bootloader. that's what i love about the nexus devices
Ugh!!!
Glad I ran into this. I was going through the process to unlock my XT1080M on the site...looks like I'm waiting for the non-Chinese path.
Radio2006 said:
Glad I ran into this. I was going through the process to unlock my XT1080M on the site...looks like I'm waiting for the non-Chinese path.
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There's no 'non Chinese' path for Verizon phones. Unless you have a developer edition
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Droyyd said:
Unlocking the bootloader voids warranties as well...doing it through the website makes that void permanent whereas if you did it without the website you can still have your phone go through the warranty process as long as you unroot and relock the bootloader. that's what i love about the nexus devices
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While this may be true for Nexus devices, it doesn't apply to the Moto X.
The Moto X bootloader has 3 states:
Locked, Unlocked, and Re-Locked
Once you have unlocked, if you subsequently re-lock, the status changes to "Re-Locked". You can NEVER get it back to "Locked". So regardless of whether you get your code from the official Moto Unlock site or the Middleman, they still know that you had unlocked previously. There is no way around this...
rocketsaucev2 said:
There's no 'non Chinese' path for Verizon phones. Unless you have a developer edition
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Hence the reason I am waiting.
Radio2006 said:
Hence the reason I am waiting.
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Waiting for what?
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Radio2006 said:
Hence the reason I am waiting.
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rocketsaucev2 said:
Waiting for what?
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Exactly! I'm not sure what he is waiting for. An BL unlock exploit to come along? Dan Rosenburg (author of the Razr M Bootloader exploit) has said himself that it is extremely unlikely that a new Moto BL unlock exploit will EVER come along.
@Radio2006 : The "china" method could end tomorrow. It is 99.999% sure to be the ONLY way you will ever get unlocked. If being unlocked is important you, I would urge you not to wait.
Its China method quick, before it ends again....maybe for good....
Or it won't happen. The bootloader won't be "cracked". If it could be, it would be by now.
I'd get in on the China method, or accept a life of no proper root for your device. And no developer made updates after the X stops getting official updates.
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Exactly! I'm not sure what he is waiting for. An BL unlock exploit to come along? Dan Rosenburg (author of the Razr M Bootloader exploit) has said himself that it is extremely unlikely that a new Moto BL unlock exploit will EVER come along.
@Radio2006 : The "china" method could end tomorrow. It is 99.999% sure to be the ONLY way you will ever get unlocked. If being unlocked is important you, I would urge you not to wait.
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Hey, gee thanks guys. I didn't know that. The China method has already shut down according to an XDA post that I read earlier. So I was hoping that something would occur later.
Radio2006 said:
Hey, gee thanks guys. I didn't know that. The China method has already shut down according to an XDA post that I read earlier. So I was hoping that something would occur later.
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It closed earlier this year, then reopened a couple months later. It is still available now. Find the thread titled "China Middleman Back?" Thread.
Good luck!
You rock bro...just sent the payment. Thanks again.
BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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I think only developer phones can be unlocked.
dhru1405 said:
I think only developer phones can be unlocked.
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Nope. Lots of moto x variations can be unlocked. And they all can do anything a dev edition can do, except keep their warranty.
I really HATE to have to post this and I will do so quite reluctantly....
I am certainly NOT a noob when it comes to Android, rooting, etc. But, the X is my first Moto android phone. I recently purchased mine via CTO with the AT&T Kitkat leak already installed. The person I bought it from claims there is NO WAY to gain root. He said he installed the leak via stock recovery.
The leak I'm running is 140.44.3.ghost_att.ATT.en.US.
Can anyone who's kind enough and well versed in Moto devices explain to me HOW I can how I can gain root on this leak and/or get Safestrap TWRP installed and if not, will I still be able to receive OTA updates being that the bootloader is locked and the stock recovery is intact? I just don't understand enough about Moto devices. I've searched and searched and can't really find the answers myself otherwise I wouldn't post here on XDA like the moron that I am.
I have a hard time accepting that I can't gain root despite not being able to unlock the bootloader. I realize that certain versions are only compatible with Safestrap (I hope I'm understanding that correctly) but, again I don't understand enough of how Moto's work. I've always had Samsung's or HTC's which are SUPER easy to use via ADB, etc.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
t3chn0s1s said:
I really HATE to have to post this and I will do so quite reluctantly....
I am certainly NOT a noob when it comes to Android, rooting, etc. But, the X is my first Moto android phone. I recently purchased mine via CTO with the AT&T Kitkat leak already installed. The person I bought it from claims there is NO WAY to gain root. He said he installed the leak via stock recovery.
The leak I'm running is 140.44.3.ghost_att.ATT.en.US.
Can anyone who's kind enough and well versed in Moto devices explain to me HOW I can how I can gain root on this leak and/or get Safestrap TWRP installed and if not, will I still be able to receive OTA updates being that the bootloader is locked and the stock recovery is intact? I just don't understand enough about Moto devices. I've searched and searched and can't really find the answers myself otherwise I wouldn't post here on XDA like the moron that I am.
I have a hard time accepting that I can't gain root despite not being able to unlock the bootloader. I realize that certain versions are only compatible with Safestrap (I hope I'm understanding that correctly) but, again I don't understand enough of how Moto's work. I've always had Samsung's or HTC's which are SUPER easy to use via ADB, etc.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Have you read this thread? It should give you a headstart if you haven't.
RagnaParadise said:
Have you read this thread? It should give you a headstart if you haven't.
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Thanks Ragna... I haven't. I appreciate the help greatly. Moto's are so different from anything I'm used to and being that I am not starting out from a stock position makes it even more confusing.
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t3chn0s1s said:
Thanks Ragna... I haven't. I appreciate the help greatly. Moto's are so different from anything I'm used to and being that I am not starting out from a stock position makes it even more confusing.
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You might want to check out whether your phone is bootloader unlockable. I think you should be able to flash 4.4 on it completely soon, I would suggest holding out until then.
By the way, welcome to the Moto X camp.
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RagnaParadise said:
You might want to check out whether your phone is bootloader unlockable. I think you should be able to flash 4.4 on it completely soon, I would suggest holding out until then.
By the way, welcome to the Moto X camp.
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If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
t3chn0s1s said:
Thanks Ragna... I haven't. I appreciate the help greatly. Moto's are so different from anything I'm used to and being that I am not starting out from a stock position makes it even more confusing.
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To get back to stock all you need to do is download the 4.2.2 stock firmware images and then use rsdlite to install them... Assuming you have adb anyway configured, it only takes a few minutes.
From there you can do a fresh install of the 4.4 ota or take the steps to get 4.4 ota with root.
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4
theraffman said:
If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
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I wasn't certain because it was flashed over. I'm running on a Verizon ROM and frankly I wouldn't have known it was a Latin America version if I got it like that. So... Oh well. I suppose the probability that it is an AT&T version is much higher. In that case, OP's SOL for a bootloader unlock. Lol
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theraffman said:
If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
To get back to stock all you need to do is download the 4.2.2 stock firmware images and then use rsdlite to install them... Assuming you have adb anyway configured, it only takes a few minutes.
From there you can do a fresh install of the 4.4 ota or take the steps to get 4.4 ota with root.
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4
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I'm just reading your post now but, this is exactly what I did... I just used RDS Lite to return to stock 4.2.2 and then OTA'd to 4.4 and now I'm gonna use jcase's exploit to gain root. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE INFO GUYS!
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If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
To get back to stock all you need to do is download the 4.2.2 stock firmware images and then use rsdlite to install them... Assuming you have adb anyway configured, it only takes a few minutes.
From there you can do a fresh install of the 4.4 ota or take the steps to get 4.4 ota with root.
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4
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RagnaParadise said:
You might want to check out whether your phone is bootloader unlockable. I think you should be able to flash 4.4 on it completely soon, I would suggest holding out until then.
By the way, welcome to the Moto X camp.
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Thanks Ragna. I appreciate the info and being the "welcome wagon", LOL. Yeah - I'm obviously on the AT&T version (not a Dev Edition) so my BL is unlockable which - is complete bulls**t. I don't get why Moto has to pull this crap or why AT&T gives a rats ass what we do with our phones.
I was able to root my Verizon on 4.4 Just take your time and read thoroughly.
It's sort of a rough set of instructions not for the faint of heart.
SYNSYNACKACK said:
I was able to root my Verizon on 4.4 Just take your time and read thoroughly.
It's sort of a rough set of instructions not for the faint of heart.
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Yea... So I've read. Telnet is SO old school... Was kinda surprised to see that as part of the process. I haven't yet taken the plunge but will probably eventually go for it. Just a little confused since I'm already on stock 4.4 so I'm not sure if I should start at step 1 or what. Oh well... I'll figure it out. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Hello all.
Ok, I have read all the posts/threads for rooting and am still confused as each thread links to another which links to another, which changes another ,etc. Need proper organization of threads it looks like.
Anyway, I just received the GSM Unlocked MOTO X (NOT DEV ED.) for TMO or ATT.
How do I root? Again, I have read the threads and am terribly confused. I have the 4.2.2 software and have NOT updated to any OTA.
Can someone clearly highlight the steps I should be taking?
Am not a noob and currently own N5 and S4 Dev Edition.
Thanks!
ditto
I am also confused, do I download the pwnmymoto for the att or tmobile version? Just got my moto x today.
markwebb said:
Hello all.
Ok, I have read all the posts/threads for rooting and am still confused as each thread links to another which links to another, which changes another ,etc. Need proper organization of threads it looks like.
Anyway, I just received the GSM Unlocked MOTO X (NOT DEV ED.) for TMO or ATT.
How do I root? Again, I have read the threads and am terribly confused. I have the 4.2.2 software and have NOT updated to any OTA.
Can someone clearly highlight the steps I should be taking?
Am not a noob and currently own N5 and S4 Dev Edition.
Thanks!
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RockMyMoto
then, MotoWpNoMo to keep root as w/o you have a "temp" root, or tethered, if that is the correct term. AKA, reboots/shutdowns can trip it back to stock w/o root.
so are these phones the x1053 or x1058?
buschris said:
so are these phones the x1053 or x1058?
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X1053
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TKTAB911 said:
RockMyMoto
then, MotoWpNoMo to keep root as w/o you have a "temp" root, or tethered, if that is the correct term. AKA, reboots/shutdowns can trip it back to stock w/o root.
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Thanks... then can I take the ota to kit Kat 4.4 or will I lose root? I did unlock bootloader BTW.
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markwebb said:
Thanks... then can I take the ota to kit Kat 4.4 or will I lose root? I did unlock bootloader BTW.
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I am thinking of unlocking mine as well, and I am on 4.4 already, just got the phone today.
Not sure if I should unlock, it will be my daughters phone and I'll probably need the warranty
markwebb said:
Thanks... then can I take the ota to kit Kat 4.4 or will I lose root? I did unlock bootloader BTW.
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Since you've unlocked the bootloader, follow the root directions for the dev edition. What you're doing is wholly unnecessary.
Unlock bootloader, download latest CWMR or TWRP and SuperSu, then fastboot (or mfastboot) flash recovery, boot into recovery, adb push supersu.zip /sdcard, flash in recovery. Done.
buschris said:
I am thinking of unlocking mine as well, and I am on 4.4 already, just got the phone today.
Not sure if I should unlock, it will be my daughters phone and I'll probably need the warranty
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I'd start with root without unlocking.
nhizzat said:
Since you've unlocked the bootloader, follow the root directions for the dev edition. What you're doing is wholly unnecessary.
Unlock bootloader, download latest CWMR or TWRP and SuperSu, then fastboot (or mfastboot) flash recovery, boot into recovery, adb push supersu.zip /sdcard, flash in recovery. Done.
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Thanks..that is what I was looking for. So, should I update to OTA first since I am unlocked, or root now per dev edition instruction? If so, then how would I take the OTA if I am on custom recovery? Is there a zip of the OTA?
Thanks again!
markwebb said:
Thanks..that is what I was looking for. So, should I update to OTA first since I am unlocked, or root now per dev edition instruction? If so, then how would I take the OTA if I am on custom recovery? Is there a zip of the OTA?
Thanks again!
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You should take the 4.4 OTA first. In order to take the OTA you need to have stock recovery. Once you take the OTA then you can flash a customer recovery and flash a super user app through it.
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You should take the 4.4 OTA first. In order to take the OTA you need to have stock recovery. Once you take the OTA then you can flash a customer recovery and flash a super user app through it.
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From current experiences with other devices, that is exactly what I did. I am now updated to 4.4, with custom recovery and root!
Thanks guys...shame this isn't in an updated simple "how to" thread
markwebb said:
Thanks guys...shame this isn't in an updated simple "how to" thread
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It isn't difficult at all. People seem to be easily confused and make things more complicated than necessary.
markwebb said:
From current experiences with other devices, that is exactly what I did. I am now updated to 4.4, with custom recovery and root!
Thanks guys...shame this isn't in an updated simple "how to" thread
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Rooting with an unlocked bootloader is perhaps the easiest thing to do. You know this from past experience so why would it be any different with the Moto X?
The real challenge is when you want to root with a locked bootloader (and even that is becoming gradually easier).
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Rooting with an unlocked bootloader is perhaps the easiest thing to do. You know this from past experience so why would it be any different with the Moto X?
The real challenge is when you want to root with a locked bootloader (and even that is becoming gradually easier).
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Correct.
But i began the process with a locked bootloader and getting to the answer/correct path was a challenge in these threads compared to other threads.
So I took the plunge and unlocked.
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Hi, I have a sprint Moto X on 4.4. I haven't unlocked the bootloader or rooted anything because I haven't felt the need to but since 4.4.2 came out it keeps nagging me to update but I don't want to loose my chance to root so I figured now would be a good time to root it. I've looked around the forums but haven't seen a guide specifically for the Sprint Moto X root for 4.4. What is the process to root my phone? Once I do I can just disable the moto ota app and I'll stop getting the notifications to update right?
Thanks
Edit: Also, is it possible (and a good idea) to flash a stock 4.4.2 rom and keep root?
If you unlock your bootloader, rooting is simple by flashing twrp.
If you want to leave your bootloader locked, you need to use safestrap and all that other stuff. Much more work.
Its all in the stickied complete guide to Moto x. Or in the dev threads. Doesn't matter if you are sprint. You want the locked bootloader method, or unlocked method....depending what you decide.
Lots of info in the sticky in general.
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kj2112 said:
If you unlock your bootloader, rooting is simple by flashing twrp.
If you want to leave your bootloader locked, you need to use safestrap and all that other stuff. Much more work.
Its all in the stickied complete guide to Moto x. Or in the dev threads. Doesn't matter if you are sprint. You want the locked bootloader method, or unlocked method....depending what you decide.
Lots of info in the sticky in general.
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I don't have a warranty on the phone so are their any cons to unlocking the bootloader?
I looked at the complete guide and it seems pretty straightforward.
My last question. Is there a way I can upgrade to stock 4.4.2 after unlocking and rooting? I don't want a rom with a bunch of changes and unneeded features.
Rayz321 said:
I don't have a warranty on the phone so are their any cons to unlocking the bootloader?
I looked at the complete guide and it seems pretty straightforward.
My last question. Is there a way I can upgrade to stock 4.4.2 after unlocking and rooting? I don't want a rom with a bunch of changes and unneeded features.
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If you unlock the bootloader, the only con is warranty. Everything else is a pro.
4.4.2 can be rooted just as simply as any other version, if your bootloader is unlocked. So the easiest thing to do is do the 4.4.2 OTA for your phone, then root after upgrading. Or flash 4.4.2 manually if the files are available yet.
Keep in mind, unlocking the bootloader will completely wipe your phone.
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Rayz321 said:
I don't have a warranty on the phone so are their any cons to unlocking the bootloader?
I looked at the complete guide and it seems pretty straightforward.
My last question. Is there a way I can upgrade to stock 4.4.2 after unlocking and rooting? I don't want a rom with a bunch of changes and unneeded features.
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there is one Con like said and that is the warranty but i could care less because being able to root any version of android is a huge plus side i would really unlock your bootloader
dray_jr said:
there is one Con like said and that is the warranty but i could care less because being able to root any version of android is a huge plus side i would really unlock your bootloader
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I'm unlocking my bootloader now.
Once it's done I just update to 4.4.2 and flash twrp?
Thanks for all the helps guys.
Yup.
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Yup.
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Thanks so much, I got everything working!
Is there an way that I can stop the warning bootloader unlocked screen from coming up on every boot?
Rayz321 said:
Thanks so much, I got everything working!
Is there an way that I can stop the warning bootloader unlocked screen from coming up on every boot?
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Awesome!
Look in themes and apps section. There's a few threads with different boot screens and instructions.
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Hey does anyone know if or when the moto x 2014 will get its bootloader officially unlocked by Motorola. Was researching on the site and it seems as though Verizon models are getting their bootloaders officially unlocked. Since they said the carrier models aren't getting marshmallow they could at least unlock our bootloaders so wencan get root and flash some roms. Or if anyone knows how to get it done unofficially..... I'm all ears. Thanks
I'm unlocked on Verizon, but att I don't know if or when. If you haven't upgraded above 5.0 you can root with mofo and unlock with sunshine.
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Hey does anyone know if or when the moto x 2014 will get its bootloader officially unlocked by Motorola. Was researching on the site and it seems as though Verizon models are getting their bootloaders officially unlocked. Since they said the carrier models aren't getting marshmallow they could at least unlock our bootloaders so wencan get root and flash some roms. Or if anyone knows how to get it done unofficially..... I'm all ears. Thanks
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That's the thing, motorola never announced that verizon got it. It just magically started to work when someone tried to unlock his bootloader then they told all of us. There is no way to know if it will ever be able to be unlocked. But everyone can keep trying, maybe one day it will work.
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oraixearl said:
I'm unlocked on Verizon, but att I don't know if or when. If you haven't upgraded above 5.0 you can root with mofo and unlock with sunshine.
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Already upgraded to 5.1
Zekedw said:
Already upgraded to 5.1
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Don't know of a way outside of unlock code from moto then. If you can gain root (at least temp root) sunshine will still unlock it. But haven't seen anybody figure it out yet for 5.1. Maybe keep an eye on kingroot see if they've got it yet.
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Don't know of a way outside of unlock code from moto then. If you can gain root (at least temp root) sunshine will still unlock it. But haven't seen anybody figure it out yet for 5.1. Maybe keep an eye on kingroot see if they've got it yet.
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It works now !!!
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Yann68 said:
It works now !!!
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What works now? Can you please guide me how to root and unlock bootloader of moto x 2014 at&t
abdullah.ahsan11 said:
What works now? Can you please guide me how to root and unlock bootloader of moto x 2014 at&t
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/root-bootloader-unlock-att-xt1097-5-1-t3309889
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/root-bootloader-unlock-att-xt1097-5-1-t3309889
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I've tried this already almost 20 times. Rooting via king Root won't get past 56% every time. Getting failure again and again and again.
abdullah.ahsan11 said:
I've tried this already almost 20 times. Rooting via king Root won't get past 56% every time. Getting failure again and again and again.
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Clear the cache of the app after it fails. Read the thread. It is random how it works...but it does.