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Why the nexus one doesnt record video like the Samsung I9000

hi,
why my nexus one doesnt record video in full hd with 30fps like the samsung i9000, the hardaware spec seems to be equal...
http://www.areamobile.de/handyvergleich/hardware/2371-samsung-galaxy-s-32gb/2329-google-nexus-one
And WHY TO HELL IS THE AUDIO ON RECORDED VIDEOS SOOOOOOOO BAD in my nexus? CANT nobody change this?!

Somebody's working on it. . .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=672823

audino said:
hi,
why my nexus one doesnt record video in full hd with 30fps like the samsung i9000, the hardaware spec seems to the same...
http://www.areamobile.de/handyvergleich/hardware/2371-samsung-galaxy-s-32gb/2329-google-nexus-one
And WHY TO HELL IS THE AUDIO ON RECORDED VIDEOS SOOOOOOOO BAD in my nexus? CANT nobody change this?!
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720p is not full HD. Also, that phone has 8GB of internal storage, the Nexus One has 512mb. Excluding the option is probably due to several things. One being the camera/video recording application on the Nexus One is the stock android software where phones like the Evo or that Samsung have custom apps for this. Second, HD video takes up tons of space, if you were going to allow HD recording a 4GB mSD card wouldn't be enough for all the videos and music, etc that people put on the phone. That isn't to say 8GB is enough, but it's a jump in the right direction. In the EVO4G's case it comes with 1GB internal and 8GB sd card out of the box.
The potential for the Nexus One to do HD video is there, but no one has figured out how yet, afaik. Pretty sure there is a thread with people working on getting 720p video recording working.

mlinz said:
720p is not full HD. Also, that phone has 8GB of internal storage, the Nexus One has 512mb. Excluding the option is probably due to several things. One being the camera/video recording application on the Nexus One is the stock android software where phones like the Evo or that Samsung have custom apps for this. Second, HD video takes up tons of space, if you were going to allow HD recording a 4GB mSD card wouldn't be enough for all the videos and music, etc that people put on the phone. That isn't to say 8GB is enough, but it's a jump in the right direction. In the EVO4G's case it comes with 1GB internal and 8GB sd card out of the box.
The potential for the Nexus One to do HD video is there, but no one has figured out how yet, afaik. Pretty sure there is a thread with people working on getting 720p video recording working.
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You´re right, 720p isnt full, sorry my mistake... But if you look on youtube to some sample i9000 recorded vids, the image quality is incredible and even the sound is much much better as the one on my n1 :-(!!!

It is completely awesome that we might have 720p. I don't care how much space it takes couldn't we just get bigger cards? Or is the rom the problem?

lol theres no "full" HD.
720P/1080i/1080P are all HD. Dont let made up lingo by TV companies to sell new sets skew your perception of tech.
fyi best available HD set by a country mile until this year were 720p Kuro sets.
As for recording quality. Its not about resolution at that point. Its about bit rate,FPS, and encoding quality.((software wise anyways))

I was under the impressiong the samsuns has a much better gpu component.

i dont see how or why the internal 512mb of memory has anything to do with it, nokia phones like the n97 have been recording 30 fps video directly to the sd card for years. maybe not in 720p, but couldnt we at least get the nexus one current resolution to bump up to 30 fps? and yes i read that thread, seems like lots of promise! cant wait

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6744172#post6744172

Samsung's 1GHz processor is not the snapdragon its something 3x better with a GPU 3x better i think its the "humming bird" processor!

There is nothing between CPU or GPU and realtime video encoding on mobile devices. It's done by dedicated hardware.
Nexus has the hardware, it can be made to do it, it was made to do it, and it'll hopefully improve even futher.
All the comparison of CPUs, GPUs etc with bare words and no facts is not going to do any good besides wasting forum pages.
There is a big difference between a question and a complaint. Complaining that the device doesn't do what it wasn't advertised to do is quite... strange, let's say.

[Q] Issue with Samsung internal memory - Fat32 Limits files to 4 GB in size

Is there any way to convert the internal memory from FAT32 to EXT3\4?
Its great that we have 13 gigs usable memory on the internal NAND, but with it formatted as FAT, I can not store files larger than 4 GB in size.
** Please No Discussion of reasons for large files on internal SD. **
** No Discussion on 720P vs 480P **

Is there really a need to have any single file larger than 4GB?

stuclark said:
Is there really a need to have any single file larger than 4GB?
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Definitely YES: 720p films

stuclark said:
Is there really a need to have any single file larger than 4GB?
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Lets not highjack this thread with the relevance of large files. Perhaps I am using my phone as a USB drive and I work with large files.
Can anyone with information relevant to the topic chime in ?

supercurio from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748880&page=11 appears to be having a lot of luck with doing almost exactly this.

RyanZA said:
supercurio from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748880&page=11 appears to be having a lot of luck with doing almost exactly this.
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Hrmmm, the link is to the lag fix... I seen quite a few posting of EXT3\4 partitions but they exist on the microsd card and not internal ( if I understand the directions correctly).
Thanks for your input Ryan.

They've almost finished mounting ext4 on internal memory(not using images etc, actually formating them) in Korea, people are testing it now. I think there are posts about that here too.
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Oops, seems that I missread the article. What i meant was 1.8gb program memory...
By the way, ext4 can't be used from windows os, you know. May be exFAT could be solution
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jychoi103 said:
They've almost finished mounting ext4 on internal memory(not using images etc, actually formating them) in Korea, people are testing it now. I think there are posts about that here too.
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Oops, seems that I missread the article. What i meant was 1.8gb program memory...
By the way, ext4 can't be used from windows os, you know. May be exFAT could be solution
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Does anyone have information on our partitions are mounted? Is this done by script at boot time?

Maybe your better off buying an external SD card and formatting it to EXT 3/4?
Just throwing it out there..

MrCeddy said:
Is there any way to convert the internal memory from FAT32 to EXT3\4?
Its great that we have 13 gigs usable memory on the internal NAND, but with it formatted as FAT, I can not store files larger than 4 GB in size.
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yes, i'm using ext4

Qazz~ said:
Maybe your better off buying an external SD card and formatting it to EXT 3/4?
Just throwing it out there..
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Agreed.... a 16 GB micro SD can be had for < $30 nowadays. It's not even worth thinking about IMO.

kungufli said:
Definitely YES: 720p films
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Why put a full 720P file on the phone? By definition 720P is 1280×720 pixels. The displays on our phones are only 800x480 pixels. You will see absolutely no gain in playing a 720P video, over a much smaller, converted video running at the native resolution. And you'll save battery life as well because the system doesn't have to down-convert the media to something it can show.
So, I am going to have to back up:
stuclark said:
Is there really a need to have any single file larger than 4GB?
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Electroz said:
Why put a full 720P file on the phone? By definition 720P is 1280×720 pixels. The displays on our phones are only 800x480 pixels. You will see absolutely no gain in playing a 720P video, over a much smaller, converted video running at the native resolution. And you'll save battery life as well because the system doesn't have to down-convert the media to something it can show.
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Movies to play over tvout/dlna, huge pdf files, large packet captures, dvd iso, 5GB file filled with NULL.
Does it really matter? The man wants the capability, hence the question.

Electroz said:
Why put a full 720P file on the phone? By definition 720P is 1280×720 pixels. The displays on our phones are only 800x480 pixels. You will see absolutely no gain in playing a 720P video, over a much smaller, converted video running at the native resolution. And you'll save battery life as well because the system doesn't have to down-convert the media to something it can show.
So, I am going to have to back up:
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maybe because you don't want to spend time converting the movie file. as smb else said, doesnt matter the reason behind, let's just find out if it is possible.
Btw, please smb enlighten me: I have formatted an SD with ext2/3 file system and SGS did not recognize it, returning error: SD card damaged or in an unknown format.
How can I format an SD in ext2/3 and to use it in SGS for large file transport? I believe I am missing smth, since lot of persons are talking about it. And yes, I did try to search a bit..

fearmonkey said:
5GB file filled with NULL.
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K, you got me!
But, the point of my post was to point out the flaw of the video file thing. Believe it or not, there are a lot of people that do think 720P would look better than 480P on our phones. I remember a discussion with someone complaining that the SGS doesn't do 1080P. Now, the DNLA does make sense. But, as for the TV out, there is no hi-def tv out option available for our phones that I have seen tested. Samsung does have a microusb to hdmi, but I have not seen any proof that it is compatible with our phones.

Electroz said:
K, you got me!
But, the point of my post was to point out the flaw of the video file thing. Believe it or not, there are a lot of people that do think 720P would look better than 480P on our phones. I remember a discussion with someone complaining that the SGS doesn't do 1080P. Now, the DNLA does make sense. But, as for the TV out, there is no hi-def tv out option available for our phones that I have seen tested. Samsung does have a microusb to hdmi, but I have not seen any proof that it is compatible with our phones.
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yes, you got a real point here. But rather than converting any >4GB 720p movie file, which takes time, I would rather prefer to copy it directly to my SD and see it from there with all the downsides that come with it.
So how do we do this?

brunes said:
Agreed.... a 16 GB micro SD can be had for < $30 nowadays. It's not even worth thinking about IMO.
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In order for me to have 32GB of useful space the internal 16 GB must also work with all file sizes.
If its not worth thinking about please don't fill the thread with your negativity, take it elsewhere.

fearmonkey said:
Movies to play over tvout/dlna, huge pdf files, large packet captures, dvd iso, 5GB file filled with NULL.
Does it really matter? The man wants the capability, hence the question.
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Thank you. Instead of speculating of the possible uses. Please answer the question only with RELEVANT data. That how we prevent simple questions from turning into a 80 page 500,000 view count thread.

Electroz said:
K, you got me!
But, the point of my post was to point out the flaw of the video file thing.
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Even if it is a valid point, it's completely irrelevant to this thread.

If you connect the phone to your pc in kies mode, you can put larger than 4gb files on the internal memory. When connected in this mode properly the phone will show up in My Computer under "other devices" as a GT-I9000. You can then open the phone and from there go into either the internal or external sd memory. When you copy a >4GB mkv movie over it will give you a warning "this media type may not be playable on the device" which you can ignore. The file is then split/transferred to the phone by the Kies background service. When it is finished it shows as one file but is really 2. It takes a bit of time as the transfer speed is slow (~8mbps) and it has to split the file as well. But considering Samsung put in drag and drop encoding that gets around the FAT32 limitations I'm pretty impressed.

fast sd card recommendations

hey guys what do you recommend the stock sd card that came with my nexus only gives me about 17 fps on video recording im looking for something so I can get the maximum possible framerate.

You can get a class 6, but the video performance gain will be minimal depending on conditions.

Video Encoding Suggestions...

Hello everybody. I am going out of town next week for business and wanted to be able to take some movies and shows that I have downloaded with me to play on my tab 2 7.0. They are 720p MKV files and I was thinking about reencoding them to try to shrink the file size down a bit. I know just lowering the res will help do that some but any other thoughts on file type bit rate ect?
I want to maintain as good a quality as I can but lower the file size. The original files look and play great but are a bit big, I only have a 16gb microSD. Thanks for any tips, I'm sure some of you have some experience with this.
Thanks!

I use avs video converter. The filesize is about 800MB for 2 hours of non-HD video. It's easy and works well. You can start multiple sessions.
BTW - I have not used many others.

Are there specific settings you use? A profile for the tab?
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try out ripbot264 its a great free little app try the iphone profile
the tablet is pretty decent with media files although I prefer AAC audio for its efficiency at lower bit rates, we dont need 5.1
bit rate is a bit of a Q really, try CRF and try some numbers till your find a decent trade off between quality and size

NickPDX said:
Are there specific settings you use? A profile for the tab?
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Here you go.....See attached...

I use xVid4PSP 5 they have a bunch of tablet options, none specifically for the gtab 2 but you can easily pick one according to the res. If you dont absolutely have to have stunning clarity, the psp settings work really well, you will only notice the res difference if you look closely. Some movies I've been able to get down to about 300mb and still look good. But xvid does a good job of retaining clarity and reducing file size while not allowing it to be anamorphic. Just my two cents!

h.264 will give much better results than xvid though, best to use that if you can

may I suggest a better alternative?
get a 32GB microSD card. I just randomly looked on Amazon and they have
a nice Sandisk 32GB microSD for only $20, delivered.(assuming you have
Prime, if not add a couple of bucks for shipping) $20 is nothing.... it's
less than two movie tickets.
you instantly double your storage capacity without the need to waster hours
trying to shrink your 720p mkv files. (but if you still want to shrink them,
your new 32GB will hold twice as many movies!) At 800mb per movie,
that card will hold almost 40 movies! Probably enough time to circle the
globe in a 747.
better yet, if you can spare $69, you can get a Sandisk 64GB microSDXC
card that has been proven to work on the Galaxy Tab 2 7.0. I personally saw
it working on my friend's GT2 7.0. All he did was put the card in the reader,
formatted it to FAT32 via a PC, then inserted the card back to the GT2 7.0.
Now that's a LOT of storage for movies.

Since this isn't specific to phones, I'm moving it to off-topic to see if you can get any help in there.
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Prevent camera from saving to internal storage

Hello I would like all the photos that I take to be saved on the external SD card. Please help.
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research47 said:
Hello I would like all the photos that I take to be saved on the external SD card. Please help.
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The Note 4 automatically saves photos and videos that you take in the
exernal sd card if the phone detects that you have an external sdcard .
When you first start the camera app you will see a popup telling you that
the camera detected the external sdcard and will make it the default for
saving your pictures/videos.
At least that's how it's supposed to work.
Good luck,
Have a great day!

Burst shots and and 4k video goto internal only as SD card not fast enough.

@rbiter said:
Burst shots and and 4k video goto internal only as SD card not fast enough.
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Oh okay..that's what I wanted to prevent, but it looks like there is no work around. I just wanted everything to go to SD card. Looks like it's a hardware limitation not software. Thanks!