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Getting Started on Moto X

Background: Just received my Moto X yesterday (Ebony back, black front, silver trim, SEXY!!!). I'm coming from a Droid 4 (tired of waiting on Droid 5) and I'm hoping you guys can help point me in the right direction by answering a few general questions for me. I've browsed through some of the forums already but since the Moto X has been out a little while now there is a LOT to wade through. So....
1. What is the current state of root on the Moto X? The last I saw there is not an easy root method for Moto X on KitKat. Is that still true?
2. On my D4 we did not really have options when it come to recoveries. It was safestrap, which is great, but that was it. I think I saw a safestrap for Moto X thread somewhere but are there other recoveries like TWRP or CWM available?
3. Probably a stupid questions but what is the difference between the "Moto X Android Development" forum and the "Moto X Original Android Development" forum?
Really love the XDA community and looking forward to getting started with my Moto X and finding ways to contribute. Thanks!

Read through the dev sections ....and all will be revealed.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

kj2112 said:
Read through the dev sections ....and all will be revealed.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Not afraid of a little reading. Just trying to figure out where to start. Can you at least clarify what the difference is between the "Android Development" and "Original Android Development" sections?

kj2112 said:
Read through the dev sections ....and all will be revealed.
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Read the sticky explaining the differences in the original android development section.
sent from Moto X

Jizzylax said:
Read the sticky explaining the differences in the original android development section.
sent from Moto X
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Totally missed the sticky. Thanks for the heads up.

kj2112 said:
Read through the dev sections ....and all will be revealed.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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OK, So I have read through a whole bunch of stuff now and I think I have root figured out. What I cannot seem to figure it out is the recovery situation. All the recoveries I see are for "Recovery Unlocked" or "Unlocked Bootloader" devices. I just have a plain old non-dev edition Moto X. Are there no compatible recoveries for regular non-dev edition Moto Xs?

kwyrt said:
OK, So I have read through a whole bunch of stuff now and I think I have root figured out. What I cannot seem to figure it out is the recovery situation. All the recoveries I see are for "Recovery Unlocked" or "Unlocked Bootloader" devices. I just have a plain old non-dev edition Moto X. Are there no compatible recoveries for regular non-dev edition Moto Xs?
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You need an unlocked bootloader to use custom recoveries. But it isn't just dev edition that can be unlocked.
If you can't or don't want to unlock your bootloader (which voids your warranty), then you can't use a custom recovery.
You can still root....but no custom recovery. Which means no flashing from recovery...since stock doesn't flash.
Again....this is all in the dev section....and Google can help you find this stuff too.
I can't help further, I'm not an expert at the unlocked bootloader root stuff, as I unlocked my bootloader on day one.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

kj2112 said:
You need an unlocked bootloader to use custom recoveries. But it isn't just dev edition that can be unlocked.
If you can't or don't want to unlock your bootloader (which voids your warranty), then you can't use a custom recovery.
You can still root....but no custom recovery. Which means no flashing from recovery...since stock doesn't flash.
Again....this is all in the dev section....and Google can help you find this stuff too.
I can't help further, I'm not an expert at the unlocked bootloader root stuff, as I unlocked my bootloader on day one.
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Thanks. I didn't see any threads related to unlocking the bootloader but I'll keep looking. Thanks again for the information.

kwyrt said:
Thanks. I didn't see any threads related to unlocking the bootloader but I'll keep looking. Thanks again for the information.
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You have to unlock the boot loader at Motorola's website. That way they know and your warranty is void. Lol
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kj2112 said:
You have to unlock the boot loader at Motorola's website. That way they know and your warranty is void. Lol
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Well poop. Looks like the normal VZ version is not supported by Moto's bootloader unlock program.

kwyrt said:
Well poop. Looks like the normal VZ version is not supported by Moto's bootloader unlock program.
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Well...you're familiar with safestrap already....that's a positive.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

kj2112 said:
Well...you're familiar with safestrap already....that's a positive.
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Yep. There's that at least. LOL
Makes things simple. Root, install safestrap, and enjoy!

kwyrt said:
Background: Just received my Moto X yesterday (Ebony back, black front, silver trim, SEXY!!!). I'm coming from a Droid 4 (tired of waiting on Droid 5) and I'm hoping you guys can help point me in the right direction by answering a few general questions for me. I've browsed through some of the forums already but since the Moto X has been out a little while now there is a LOT to wade through. So....
1. What is the current state of root on the Moto X? The last I saw there is not an easy root method for Moto X on KitKat. Is that still true?
2. On my D4 we did not really have options when it come to recoveries. It was safestrap, which is great, but that was it. I think I saw a safestrap for Moto X thread somewhere but are there other recoveries like TWRP or CWM available?
3. Probably a stupid questions but what is the difference between the "Moto X Android Development" forum and the "Moto X Original Android Development" forum?
Really love the XDA community and looking forward to getting started with my Moto X and finding ways to contribute. Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49260947#post49260947

No cyanogen mod?

I noticed that not even the maxx has a working installation of cyanogen and was wondering if once the turbo has a working method for root will people be more likely to create an installation?
I'm really looking forward to over clocking my processor if so

DireWolfAlpha said:
I noticed that not even the maxx has a working installation of cyanogen and was wondering if once the turbo has a working method for root will people be more likely to create an installation?
I'm really looking forward to over clocking my processor if so
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Dev is working on CM12 for the Moto Maxx. We're not bugging him, so he can work in peace.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59242949&postcount=2

ChazzMatt said:
Dev is working on CM12 for the Moto Maxx. We're not bugging him, so he can work in peace.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59242949&postcount=2
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Do you think a moto maxx ROM would work for the droid turbo once it's rooted and boot loader is unlocked

DireWolfAlpha said:
Do you think a moto maxx ROM would work for the droid turbo once it's rooted and boot loader is unlocked
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Root is almost available for the DT but BL unlock is not guaranteed yet so no one can say if DT owners (like myself) will even be able to flash anything. Good question though.

DireWolfAlpha said:
Do you think a moto maxx ROM would work for the droid turbo once it's rooted and boot loader is unlocked
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I think will work

matheus_sc said:
I think will work
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Likely not. You can't just "swap ROMS" between a CDMA device and a GSM device.
GreaterLesser said:
Root is almost available for the DT but BL unlock is not guaranteed yet so no one can say if DT owners (like myself) will even be able to flash anything. Good question though.
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I helped a few people with unlocked turbos out in rooting theirs. I can confirm that the Moto Maxx TWRP does boot, but in the long run it'll need a few recoveryfs tweaks.
DireWolfAlpha said:
Do you think a moto maxx ROM would work for the droid turbo once it's rooted and boot loader is unlocked
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Probably not. Look at the top of my post (yes, this one) where I replied to matheus_sc.

r3pwn said:
Likely not. You can't just "swap ROMS" between a CDMA device and a GSM device.
I helped a few people with unlocked turbos out in rooting theirs. I can confirm that the Moto Maxx TWRP does boot, but in the long run it'll need a few recoveryfs tweaks.
Probably not. Look at the top of my post (yes, this one) where I replied to matheus_sc.
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Were those turbos XT1250s? Because nothing has been shown about someone working on BL unlock for the DT (XT1254)......yet. but ofc the XT1250s are already unlocked but not the XT1254s which is the model I believe he was asking about.

GreaterLesser said:
Were those turbos XT1250s? Because nothing has been shown about someone working on BL unlock for the DT (XT1254)......yet. but ofc the XT1250s are already unlocked but not the XT1254s which is the model I believe he was asking about.
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They were XT1254s. They were all prototype models and came unlocked from the factory.

r3pwn said:
They were XT1254s. They were all prototype models and came unlocked from the factory.
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Probably not this simple, but if we get root maybe the bootloader from one of these prototypes can be copied to a turbo using a dd command. Then we would all have unlocked bootloaders
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jhoutz said:
Probably not this simple, but if we get root maybe the bootloader from one of these prototypes can be copied to a turbo using a dd command. Then we would all have unlocked bootloaders
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I have one of their bootloaders. It's not that simple. Good thought, though.

jhoutz said:
Probably not this simple, but if we get root maybe the bootloader from one of these prototypes can be copied to a turbo using a dd command. Then we would all have unlocked bootloaders
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That would not work because it is not signed by moto. The ONLY things that matter are: 1) Signed vs unsigned packages and 2) bootloader exploits. Some BL exploits require root, most do now since they have gotten advanced. I miss the days of hardware level exploits and stuff. No more though. Root will likely be needed for a BL unlock and I would assume once root drops people will start working on one. Jcase has unlocked many motos and I would assume he will work on one when he has time (he is sick and very busy).
So root will not allow a BL unlock by itself. I am not even sure if this root exploit removes /system write protection. Some don't. We just have to wait and see.

I was busy last week, but if there will be BL unlock for Verizon Droid Turbo, then I'll make the CM12 / CM12.1 universal.

Skrilax_CZ said:
I was busy last week, but if there will be BL unlock for Verizon Droid Turbo, then I'll make the CM12 / CM12.1 universal.
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Great news

Skrilax_CZ said:
I was busy last week, but if there will be BL unlock for Verizon Droid Turbo, then I'll make the CM12 / CM12.1 universal.
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Hi,
I haven't brought the moto maxx/moto turbo here in India. But I'll buy it soon and will be happy to help you in cm12 development.
Regards

##W4TCH0UT## said:
Hi,
I haven't brought the moto maxx/moto turbo here in India. But I'll buy it soon and will be happy to help you in cm12 development.
Regards
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Thanking you this way until my "thanks limit" re-sets. Thank you.

##W4TCH0UT## said:
Hi,
I haven't brought the moto maxx/moto turbo here in India. But I'll buy it soon and will be happy to help you in cm12 development.
Regards
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Great news, more devs make uor maxx even better

123421342 said:
That would not work because it is not signed by moto.
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Since when isn't a Motorola Engineering Bootloader signed by Motorola?
123421342 said:
Jcase has unlocked many motos and I would assume he will work on one when he has time (he is sick and very busy).
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But he already said he shows no interest in unlocking the turbo.

EDIT: Gah, double post didn't get merged.

r3pwn said:
Since when isn't a Motorola Engineering Bootloader signed by Motorola?
But he already said he shows no interest in unlocking the turbo.
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If you dump the package yourself I would imagine it would no longer have the same check sum no? Jcase has said this about many devices and then out of nowhere released exploits. I am not asking him to, I am just saying he enjoys doing this and is really, really good at it. I can see him collaborating with the root author to develop a proper exploit if it does not already exist. Either way, this root probably won't be released for another few weeks, if ever.

123421342 said:
If you dump the package yourself I would imagine it would no longer have the same check sum no? Jcase has said this about many devices and then out of nowhere released exploits. I am not asking him to, I am just saying he enjoys doing this and is really, really good at it. I can see him collaborating with the root author to develop a proper exploit if it does not already exist. Either way, this root probably won't be released for another few weeks, if ever.
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No, if you dump the bootloader yourself, it will be signed with the exact same certificates as when it was compiled. As a quick demonstration, take a device (not the Turbo) and download a custom kernel for it.
Check (and make note of) the MD5 checksum. Then install it.
Boot it once or twice, messing around with it. Then dump it (via
Code:
dd if="/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/boot" of="/sdcard/boot.img"
) and compare the MD5 of your dumped image to that of the one that had not yet been installed. Zero difference.

Droid Turbo rom on Moto Maxx?

Does anyone know if a Droid Turbo rom or system image can be flashed onto a Moto Maxx phone? Really like the VZW Droid widgets. Thanks in advance.

vince2398 said:
Does anyone know if a Droid Turbo rom or system image can be flashed onto a Moto Maxx phone? Really like the VZW Droid widgets. Thanks in advance.
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I would highly recommend against that. Someone sent me their system dump a while ago and I may be able to pull just the widget for you, if that's what you want (although, I thought the Moto Maxx has the same widget that the Turbo has?).

Thanks. Actually I saw a thread with the apk of the widget. Gonna give that a try first.

vince2398 said:
Does anyone know if a Droid Turbo rom or system image can be flashed onto a Moto Maxx phone? Really like the VZW Droid widgets. Thanks in advance.
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U can flash just the system n boot images...
People have done it... So have I...

Some thing to look in to devs

New root method found for 2014 moto x for at. Maybe it can be modified to work with droid turbo and get us wp off?!

Same method as mofo --- no wp-off

No bueno

At least its free tho

Someone could make a free version of mofo if they wanted. Personally, I wouldn't, purely out of respect.

Someone care to post the link for root on the x2 2014?
All I find is the lollipop root achieved but that is for an unlocked boot only.

aviwdoowks said:
Someone care to post the link for root on the x2 2014?
All I find is the lollipop root achieved but that is for an unlocked boot only.
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I accidentally missed the fact that it was for the 2013 model(s), not the 2014, but here you go anyways.
EDIT: Could've sworn I added a link. Was super tired.

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I accidentally missed the fact that it was for the 2013 model(s), not the 2014, but here you go anyways.
EDIT: Could've sworn I added a link. Was super tired.
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Right crashxxl original moto x

xt1095 bricked help.

i found a thread the other night and i'd like someone with more knowledge on the subject.
hopefully this can get us closer to unbricking our moto x 2014 on our own...instead of relying on motorola.
it has a few downloads as to the necessary files however i only get to an error 'flash failed'
http://wwwdotusoftsmartphonedotcom/t300062.html
thats the actual thread maybe someone can look in to it.
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fastercon said:
i found a thread the other night and i'd like someone with more knowledge on the subject.
hopefully this can get us closer to unbricking our moto x 2014 on our own...instead of relying on motorola.
it has a few downloads as to the necessary files however i only get to an error 'flash failed'
http://wwwdotusoftsmartphonedotcom/t300062.html
thats the actual thread maybe someone can look in to it.
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No it does not help at all. That page has the files for the 2013 moto x, which do not help nor work with our phone. That site has bad info, sorry.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk

ahh damn lol

For what it's worth...the blankfalsh.bat file does recognize the moto x 2014 and does try to flash...so maybe if we had the correct boot to flash it might work??

fastercon said:
For what it's worth...the blankfalsh.bat file does recognize the moto x 2014 and does try to flash...so maybe if we had the correct boot to flash it might work??
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That's the problem. We don't have the files. Only motorola has them. Motorola does NOT release them. The only way we will get the files is if they leak. So until that happens there is no way to fix a hard brick.
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OK got ya