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Hello,
Right now I have Galaxy Note N700, the original Note, and I am considering buying the new Moto G.
Do you consider this as an upgrade over my 3 year old phone specs wise?
When I compare it in GSM Arena, they are almost identical except for the processor which is Exynos 4210 for my old Note and Snapdragon 400 for the Moto G. When I google their differences, it seems that the Exynos chip is still more powerful than the Snapdragon 400 but the former is Dual Core 1.4 GHz Cortex A9 while the latter is Quad Core 1.2 GHz Cortex A7.
So is this a worthy upgrade? Because I do not wana buy expensive phones anymore, I will be needing it for call and texts, FB, browsing and some light gaming only.
Thank you!
Buy Moto G Asap!!
Upgrade Your Phone!! Buy Moto G (2nd Gen) cheap price. and smooth than butter. very fast phone. its feel like nexus phone. Moto G is Awsum device. with upgrade Garenty From motorola. Moto G also will get android lemon pie(5.0) on Jan to Feb. :good:
The Moto G is worth every dollar. Is go for it. It runs smooth, has a nice size and great build overall.
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The Asus ZenFone 5 has piqued my interest. More RAM, faster processor, same display, same with MicroSD slot.
Asus Zenfone 5 may not get the Android L update.
What to buy...
I have a get a "cheap phone" and a "expensive Tablet" attitude.
allansy said:
The Asus ZenFone 5 has piqued my interest. More RAM, faster processor, same display, same with MicroSD slot.
Asus Zenfone 5 may not get the Android L update.
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allansy said:
Hello,
Right now I have Galaxy Note N700, the original Note, and I am considering buying the new Moto G.
Do you consider this as an upgrade over my 3 year old phone specs wise?
When I compare it in GSM Arena, they are almost identical except for the processor which is Exynos 4210 for my old Note and Snapdragon 400 for the Moto G. When I google their differences, it seems that the Exynos chip is still more powerful than the Snapdragon 400 but the former is Dual Core 1.4 GHz Cortex A9 while the latter is Quad Core 1.2 GHz Cortex A7.
So is this a worthy upgrade? Because I do not wana buy expensive phones anymore, I will be needing it for call and texts, FB, browsing and some light gaming only.
Thank you!
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If you are happy with your Note, software is ok and everything els is fine, I would stay on Note
It will probably be an experience upgrade, because the Moto software is very light. I have touchwiz on a Note 10.1 (2014) and the Samsung bloat sucks. That said, my advice is get a first-gen G 16GB model while they are still available cheap. My impression is aside from not having expandable storage, it is a better phone (all same specifications except screen size, but the resolution did not improve). If you are willing to hold-off a bit and wait for a new mid-price phone option, the new Nexus should be out within a month or 2.
It is a worthy upgrade from the original G and the old Note. You will get Android L with this device as well. Read my review here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55536919
Just remember this is a budget phone at $180, when the Note came out it was $800. In any case it's still a better phone because of stock Android and useful Motorola additions. The new Nexus will probably be $400. (I don't think it will be $349 this time).
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I have moved from the N7000 to a G and it's great, initially I wanted the bigger screen, but the whole package on the G is faster smoother and generally easier to use, not so much stuff you won't ever use! It also fits in your pocket easily.
At the prices of the G at the moment try it, you will be surprised
I will skip on the original G since I really need the SD Card slot. That is why I am considering Moto G 2014.
I am using SlimKat now on my Note I. It lags but it is acceptable compare to when I flashed a JellyBean stock rom.
What is limiting for me with the G 2014 is the 1GB ram, because right now with my Note, it cannot handle a lot of apps. It will always open a new app and not from where I left it.
e.g.
The Chrome browser is really slow on my Note, not slow because of internet connection but slow because it just lags a lot.
Plays Youtube with stutters.
Facebook after clicking on an external link and returning to FB will start from the top.
I am also looking at Asus Zenfone 5, another value for money device.
I like the specs but there is no dedicated XDA thread for this device. It means no development.
The reason I am still holding on to my GNote and still acceptable for daily use is because there is still few developments happening, I still got Kitkat.
In that case, I would recommend a bigger jump and get a mobile phone with 2GB of ram
At Moto G's price point, do you recommend any other than Asus Zenfone 5?
The Tab S and Tab Pro are pretty close minus a few spec differences. My main question though, will the Tab Pro get more support due to it having a Snapdragon processor vs the eyxnos? Is it worth sticking it out with the Tab S and see where development leads to? I know the Eyxnos chips are harder and have less devs working on them due to this (from what I have read, source files, coding, etc).
here here here here here here and here are threads on Pro vs S
i should add i had a 10.1 Pro and bought a 10.5 S and Pro was sold next day.
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here here here here here here and here are threads on Pro vs S
i should add i had a 10.1 Pro and bought a 10.5 S and Pro was sold next day.
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What about development though? Will this device get more or does the eyxnos chip scare away devs?
Funny,
Everybody with a Tab Pro are worried it is an orphaned device because all of Samsung's energy is going into the S. I'd like to see sales numbers for both.
My main concern really is development, it can take a ok/good/great device and make it completely amazing.
Root makes these tablets amazing. The development community hasn't embraced these tabs but we still have root and now xposed makes most custom roms null and void. So if you're adament on flashing stuff then you might want to look elsewhere.... We'll there is the upcoming Nexus.
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I had a pro 8.4 and sold it to get a S 8.4. Love the S. Best tablet o ever used.
Part of it is a question of value. The Tab Pro is selling now for $200 refurbished. The Tab S is selling closer to $330. They have around the same performance (tab pro has a little bit of edge). But the tab S has an AMOLED screen and a thinner/lighter body.
If it's performance at any cost you want, then wait for the Dell Venue 7840 (uses tab s screen with 64 bit intel processor) or a Snapdragon 810 processor. Maybe get NVidia's Shield as it's the only tablet today with a 2014 ARM processor. More likely, wait for HTC's Nexus tablet
If form matters most, then the tab s (and don't sleep on the official samsung case, which is the first oem case to displace roocase as my go-to).
If value and compatibility matters most, then the tab pro. Having a Snapdragon 800 means that advances in Nexus 5, 7 and other android device kernels may make it's way into future development. According to Qualcomm the Snapdragon 800/801 is in the Nexus 5, LG G Pro 2, G Flex, G2& G3, HTC M8 & E8, OnePlus One, Samsung Galaxy Note 2014 LTE, Tab Pro, Tab S LTE, Note 3, S5 & S5A & Alpha US, Xperia Z Ultra, Z1, Z1C, Z2, Z3 & Z3C, Amazon's Kindle HDX and Fire, Asus's Padfone and Motorola X 2014.
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If it's performance at any cost you want, then wait for the Dell Venue 7840 (uses tab s screen with 64 bit intel processor) or a Snapdragon 810 processor. Maybe get NVidia's Shield as it's the only tablet today with a 2014 ARM processor. More likely, wait for HTC's Nexus tablet
If form matters most, then the tab s (and don't sleep on the official samsung case, which is the first oem case to displace roocase as my go-to).
If value and compatibility matters most, then the tab pro. Having a Snapdragon 800 means that advances in Nexus 5, 7 and other android device kernels may make it's way into future development. According to Qualcomm the Snapdragon 800/801 is in the Nexus 5, LG G Pro 2, G Flex, G2& G3, HTC M8 & E8, OnePlus One, Samsung Galaxy Note 2014 LTE, Tab Pro, Tab S LTE, Note 3, S5 & S5A & Alpha US, Xperia Z Ultra, Z1, Z1C, Z2, Z3 & Z3C, Amazon's Kindle HDX and Fire, Asus's Padfone and Motorola X 2014.
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also would like to add that if convenience of superior cross product integration is important to you like your tablet blending with your TV's (Samsung's) and your Phone (Samsung) then leaving Sammy for another manufacturer takes that away.
i stick with the best Sammy has to offer in all those items because i really like the cross platform software Sammy offers.
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My main concern really is development, it can take a ok/good/great device and make it completely amazing.
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Haha, I like how everyone is trying to avoid the question by giving an unrelated answer. Sorry this is coming off a bit negative BigMike but Samsung have poor development and software support ecosystem and they have shown it clearly in the past. Samsung owners will be lucky if they have more then 2 updates for their devices or support for more then 6 months. The company is out there just to make money from quick sales of hardware. Be warn and don't expect too much from Samsung if you're planning on getting any of their galaxy or tab variation devices. To answer your question in short format is neither devices will have any better development in the future from Samsung.
NixxonExxo said:
Haha, I like how everyone is trying to avoid the question by giving an unrelated answer. Sorry this is coming off a bit negative BigMike but Samsung have poor development and software support ecosystem and they have shown it clearly in the past. Samsung owners will be lucky if they have more then 2 updates for their devices or support for more then 6 months. The company is out there just to make money from quick sales of hardware. Be warn and don't expect too much from Samsung if you're planning on getting any of their galaxy or tab variation devices. To answer your question in short format is neither devices will have any better development in the future from Samsung.
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I don't think he means development by Samsung. I believe he is referring to custom roms.
My first and last samsung tablet was 7.7 after then i bought only ipad and nexus tabs , my latest tablet was iPad mini RETINA i sold it 2 days ago and i bought TAB S 8.4 / man i cant believe this tablet is for samsung it is awesome i love it wow
Tab pro has whiter screen ...., tab s has yellow white!
Tab pro has Snapdragon and 2gb ram but it' s more powerful than exynos and 3gb of tab s!
Although i already bought tab s, if could return in time i was gonna choose tab pro and saved some money!
Tab s has lags & hiccups everywhere!
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Tab pro has whiter screen ...., tab s has yellow white!
Tab pro has Snapdragon and 2gb ram but it' s more powerful than exynos and 3gb of tab s!
Although i already bought tab s, if could return in time i was gonna choose tab pro and saved some money!
Tab s has lags & hiccups everywhere!
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my Tab S 10.5 is far superior to my Tab Pro 10.1 when it comes to performance. the difference is HUGE. both are the Best Buy Wifi Versions
Why choose tab pro, just go for tab s
100 percent i recomend Tab S
Definitely take Tab S. The screen is awesome, especially when you watch movies or HD pictures in dark room besides, Tab S is slimmer and lighter.
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The Tab S and Tab Pro are pretty close minus a few spec differences. My main question though, will the Tab Pro get more support due to it having a Snapdragon processor vs the eyxnos? Is it worth sticking it out with the Tab S and see where development leads to? I know the Eyxnos chips are harder and have less devs working on them due to this (from what I have read, source files, coding, etc).
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At the moment I'm personally using Galaxy Tab S 10.5 and I have a White Tab Pro 12.2 and a Black Tab Pro 12.2 .
Then pro has a really nice back with stiches which looks really nice but I prefer the Tab S as it looks nice with the gold around it. It is also slimmer and lighter. The pro uses LCD technology while the tab s uses AMOLED. Amoled gives better colours and consumes less power. The tab pro has usb3 while tab s has usb2 which is strange. Personally i think the winner is Galaxy Tab S. Processor wise dont listen to people saying Exynos is bad as its not. If you debloat your tablet it will work smooth without lag and also exynos uses less power so battery will last longer.
I had the Tab Pro 10.1 WiFi version and Tab S is "out for delivery" right now... I sure hope as hell that Tab S is better, because the Pro was pretty bad.
I was recently thinking about selling my Tab S and get the Tab Pro since its a lot cheaper. Plus I thought it had a lot of dev support. However when I compared the specs, it didnt make sense to sacrifice on screen technology, less ram and a larger device to save a few bucks. I got Tab S for 299 when I gave bestbuy a crappy old android tablet for 100 off towards Tab S. Then I looked into Tab Pro forums. Yes they have a few more roms but its not like its getting nexus level love over there. I am sticking with Tab S for now. I got a heavy debloated rom on Skyhigh kernel. Its alot better than stock. Tried Aosp port for a little while which was excellent for daily use but no Netflix was a dealbreaker for me. With time I hope to see more support for this tab.
I've been looking for quite a while now for a similar app to the iPhones slow motion editing software and have come up empty handed. Not only that, but excuse after excuse on why Android doesn't support it, or the hardware can't support it, all BS. Sony came out with "time-shift" in the Z2, which shows there is no hardware problem, only software. The quality of the time-shift is really good and on par with the iPhone 5s/6/6+.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSoPwAJvrQs
The Time-Shift app has been ported successfully to the Z1 but not to other android phones. The Xperia phones all use Snapdragon 800/801 proccessors and Sony IMX220 sensors, which is pretty much what all 2014 flagships run (Note 4 is an imx240, still an Exmor RS sensor). The Sony devs have been great getting it ported to other Xperia devices and I'm hoping there is someone around here that can do work and get it working on the Note and possibly other Android phones.
I'm willing to put down 100 dollars towards a dev that can get it working on the Note 4, maybe some sort of bounty, and I'm willing to do more if that is what it takes.
Right now I have a note 3 for personal use but also a Note 4 here at the shop that I can do some testing with also.
Any news ?
These are only my options because of my budget .Both devices are same in Price here in PH . I' m hesitating to buy Z1 beacuse i ve read alot of reviews about the battery back up of stock rom ,and it abit old compared to m4 aqua .Please i need help for those who are using Stock rom and kernel USERS .
whats the average Screen on time .ive heard cant even reach 4h
Normally I get ~5hrs of SOT with my Xperia Z1 and it can last more than a day but I can't tell about M4 Aqua because I do not have it.
But Xperia Z1 is satisfying compared to my Galaxy S4 though (I had like 3hrs SOT with the S4)
Hope it can help you
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Normally I get ~5hrs of SOT with my Xperia Z1 and it can last more than a day but I can't tell about M4 Aqua because I do not have it.
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Snapdragon 615 has a slight lover Battery consumption (and pretty much slower), but the downside of the M4 Aqua is definitely the quite smaller 2'400 mAh Battery - compared to the 3'000 mAh of the Z1
Go for the Z1.
I think you should go for z1
See how Sony is still supporting the first of its flagship series (the original Z series), so it will not get old that quickly
Thank You for reply Guys ! I think Sony will Release 5.1 this month ,should fix alot of bugs . I think the best mid -range smartphone are those old flagship phones! So ill go for Z1 !
Btw M4 Aqua's forum seems to be really silent hahaha just saying and you're welcome!
Go for the Z1. Sony will be supporting the Z1 for a litt longer because it's a former flagship and part of the Z series and rn on stock Lollipop and Kernel the battery scene is not bad I can get about 6 hours SOT with STAMINA off. Plus Z1 has pretty good dev support. Also Z1s hardware isn't outdated and the physical aesthetics are pretty good too.
Hi. After two (tragic) years with Xperia SP, i'm deciding to sell it to buy my first flagship device this week. Currently, I have three options: Xperia Z3, Oneplus One or Zenfone 2 4gb. What do you guys think is the best of these three, considering the price and development support? TIA
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Hi. After two (tragic) years with Xperia SP, i'm deciding to sell it to buy my first flagship device this week. Currently, I have three options: Xperia Z3, Oneplus One or Zenfone 2 4gb. What do you guys think is the best of these three, considering the price and development support? TIA
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Asus Zenfone 2 uses Intel chipset so as of now very little development support. Otherwise it is best & cheapest option.
Amongst 1+1 and Z3 I would definetely choose Z3 anyday.
Thanks for the reply. Any thoughts about LG G3?
GaEul said:
Thanks for the reply. Any thoughts about LG G3?
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Ofcourse LG G3 is an excellent choice but it has 1 bad flaw .. it is the battery
However, the another features are fantastic . contains a good camera , software and design
But in my opinion , The Z3 is the best choice of them