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Hi guys Im new to this thread and I've been reading the whole treads for like 3 days and for some reason im getting confused about the pros and cons so I just want to ask if my understanding about the froyo leak flash with odin3 is correct. If there is something else that i forgot to mention that is really important please remind me before i flash my new captivate
PRos:
1. flash 10.1 on browser
2. JIt compliler
3. no need to root the phone
4. can save apps on sd card
5. GPs more accurate
6. can still be root
Cons:
1. unlocked code from 2.1 eclair to use other sim will not work anymore
2. IMEI number will change and impossible to retrived unless you send them back to samsung?
3. no more android keyboard
4. void the warranty?
5. updating through OTA will not work anymore after reverting from froyo 2.2 leak to the stock 2.1 eclair by using odin3
6. after flashing couple of times from reverting to eclair to froyo will ban you from andriod market and the phone will state that there is no sim even if there is one inserted
7. lag issues
This is my first time to have an android phone so im totally noob and no idea yet and a little scared of making mistake. Also if i root my phone will i be able to unroot it again in case i want to return back the phone to at&t? Thank you in advance
Are your pros supposed to be compared to 2.1?
"no need to root"? There was not a need a root 2.1 either - or the same reasons existed, so i don't follow this.
The way i see it, 2.2 gives you access to 2.2 only apps in the store. Not much else. It is 2.2, yes, but there is not a lot more functionality. I do want it, but I can wait for official build.
BTW, there are built in tether apps - no longer in 2.1 JH7. That could be a pro.
Cons:
How about bugs and work arounds. It is stable, but Google groups and Exchange groups don't work. Samsung email client is broken when replying, etc. There is a pretty good list.
I will wait for the next build from Samsung, but that is me.
If your a "basic" user such I am (no exchange support needed) and just do the basic tweet/fb/browse for porn (erm?)/ play music/txt etc... I think you would be fine.
But.. if your not comfortable flashing ROM's and realize that your going to be voiding your warranty as soon as you do. Then don't do it and wait for OTA.
And I can't imagine that the OTA would be any better or feature rich then Cognition's 2.2.X beta.
Btw.... you listed
"3. no more android keyboard"
DG added it into the latest build.
CON: ATT address book doesnt work.
PRO: better battery life.
Pro: Cognition any version
Con: You won't get anything done because you're playing with your phone too much!
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6. after flashing couple of times from reverting to eclair to froyo will ban you from andriod market and the phone will state that there is no sim even if there is one inserted
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Is there anyone that can elaborate a little bit? That kind of scares me
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Is there anyone that can elaborate a little bit? That kind of scares me
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I have not heard of this problem before. I will do some checking on it but sounds like he is a noob that is looking into anything that can possibly go wrong. Also sounds like whoever originally posted that problem most likely had no idea what they were doing and flashed 2.2 wrong even though I do not know how that is possible. I have flashed back and forth since SRE and have done so for each Cog build to keep current. Phone works amazingly, GPS is flawless and is the fastest phone I have ever owned. Go Cognition!!
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Hi guys Im new to this thread and I've been reading the whole treads for like 3 days and for some reason im getting confused about the pros and cons so I just want to ask if my understanding about the froyo leak flash with odin3 is correct. If there is something else that i forgot to mention that is really important please remind me before i flash my new captivate
PRos:
1. flash 10.1 on browser
2. JIt compliler
3. no need to root the phone
4. can save apps on sd card
5. GPs more accurate
6. can still be root
Cons:
1. unlocked code from 2.1 eclair to use other sim will not work anymore
2. IMEI number will change and impossible to retrived unless you send them back to samsung?
3. no more android keyboard
4. void the warranty?
5. updating through OTA will not work anymore after reverting from froyo 2.2 leak to the stock 2.1 eclair by using odin3
6. after flashing couple of times from reverting to eclair to froyo will ban you from andriod market and the phone will state that there is no sim even if there is one inserted
7. lag issues
This is my first time to have an android phone so im totally noob and no idea yet and a little scared of making mistake. Also if i root my phone will i be able to unroot it again in case i want to return back the phone to at&t? Thank you in advance
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DON'T DO IT!!!! wait for the Official release, this is a leaked..aka stolen version of froyo, you will void your warrenty. If you still want to do it after what i said keep in mind that when the Official release of froyo comes out and ATT wants to do an over the air (OTA) update, the ATT server will not recognize your phones firmware any more so you won't be able to get the update of the leagle version of froyo. This leaked...or stolen version is full of glitches don't download it.
ok seriously, its not going to void your warranty if u revert back to stock using the easy 1 click restore by odin...ive sent mine back once i was running cognition 2.2 and they had no problem exchanging it. the leaked version is NOT NOT NOT NOT full of glitches, it works perfectly and i have yet to find a problem with it! so dont talk here unless u knwo what u are talking about buddy
SiL3nTKiLL said:
ok seriously, its not going to void your warranty if u revert back to stock using the easy 1 click restore by odin...ive sent mine back once i was running cognition 2.2 and they had no problem exchanging it. the leaked version is NOT NOT NOT NOT full of glitches, it works perfectly and i have yet to find a problem with it! so dont talk here unless u knwo what u are talking about buddy
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Number 1 im not your buddy sir...number two it is glitch ridden and thats been posted all over the internet. As well as an att bulletin that was release...maybe you need to do a little more studying "buster". Check out the ATT bulletin and it will advise as well as other xda-developers not to install as this is not the final version but it is a stolen version and as with all stolen merchandise there are issues once recieved by the poor sucker who bought it. Once you down load this froyo stolen version 80% of the android market will not recognize your phone so apps that you had previously won't be available anymore. And yes as quoted by ATT this will void your warranty so download at your own risk "Pal"
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Number 1 im not your buddy sir...number two it is glitch ridden and thats been posted all over the internet. As well as an att bulletin that was release...maybe you need to do a little more studying "buster". Check out the ATT bulletin and it will advise as well as other xda-developers not to install as this is not the final version but it is a stolen version and as with all stolen merchandise there are issues once recieved by the poor sucker who bought it. Once you down load this froyo stolen version 80% of the android market will not recognize your phone so apps that you had previously won't be available anymore. And yes as quoted by ATT this will void your warranty so download at your own risk "Pal"
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you, 'SIR', are a plethora of misinformation....i love reading your posts. keep up the entertaining posts!
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you, 'SIR', are a plethora of misinformation....i love reading your posts. keep up the entertaining posts!
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And you "Young Lady" are and plethora of misleading post as well.
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And you "Young Lady" are and plethora of misleading post as well.
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i am offended that you would call me a young lady. thank you for your moronic ability to be a douche.
i am waiting for your classic 'your mom' one-liners.
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Number 1 im not your buddy sir...number two it is glitch ridden and thats been posted all over the internet. As well as an att bulletin that was release...maybe you need to do a little more studying "buster". Check out the ATT bulletin and it will advise as well as other xda-developers not to install as this is not the final version but it is a stolen version and as with all stolen merchandise there are issues once recieved by the poor sucker who bought it. Once you down load this froyo stolen version 80% of the android market will not recognize your phone so apps that you had previously won't be available anymore. And yes as quoted by ATT this will void your warranty so download at your own risk "Pal"
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I've been using 2.2 since like a couple days it was released. * touchwood* so far all I noticed is that my battery performance is better. I don't even know what "glitches" u r talking about.
Before u say some software is glitchy, please be specific atleast for a few of them. And an FYI, not having android keyboard is not a glitch.
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I got my first Captivate right on the 2nd day of its release. I exchanged it for another in 2 weeks due to battery issues. I rooted, n then flashed back to stock and returned. No question of warranty loss if you know how to revert back to stock.
stewart2568 said:
DON'T DO IT!!!! wait for the Official release, this is a leaked..aka stolen version of froyo, you will void your warrenty. If you still want to do it after what i said keep in mind that when the Official release of froyo comes out and ATT wants to do an over the air (OTA) update, the ATT server will not recognize your phones firmware any more so you won't be able to get the update of the leagle version of froyo. This leaked...or stolen version is full of glitches don't download it.
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ahaha wow this is seriously entertaining! Hopefully you continue as i needed a good laugh today.
I have been on the froyo LEAK since the day after it popped up and it has been much more stable than any version of eclair EVER was. This is the whole point of xda....you can go hang out with all the newbs at androidforums or something and preach about how dangerous it is and stick with eclair.
you have no clue if it is stolen. How do you know samsung didn't release this on purpose to get feedback?? I would never listen to a word ATT says they are a joke. Its people like you that need to just keep their mouth shut you obviously have yet to flash so how can you preach about how it is 'full of glitches' haha.
oh and its really hard to odin back to stock to get the official update.
I did not know that 80% of the market is not supposed to recognize my phone any more. Somebody should let the market know. Maybe now that I know 89% of the market is not supposed to work it will now quit working. Oh no! as I am typing this 93% of the market just disappeared from my cappy!
And by the way, if I get caught with stolen software in my possession - i'm turning all of you all in!
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I did not know that 80% of the market is not supposed to recognize my phone any more. Somebody should let the market know. Maybe now that I know 89% of the market is not supposed to work it will now quit working. Oh no! as I am typing this 93% of the market just disappeared from my cappy!
And by the way, if I get caught with stolen software in my possession - i'm turning all of you all in!
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60% of the time, it works everytime
Pirateghost said:
60% of the time, it works everytime
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Sex Panther - that stuff is not even legal in the U.S.!!!
dayv said:
I did not know that 80% of the market is not supposed to recognize my phone any more. Somebody should let the market know. Maybe now that I know 89% of the market is not supposed to work it will now quit working. Oh no! as I am typing this 93% of the market just disappeared from my cappy!
And by the way, if I get caught with stolen software in my possession - i'm turning all of you all in!
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It's a leaked rom, which means that someone decided to release this...why are so many people interested in having their phones flashed back to eclair if this leaked rom is so much better? I don't understand...If I own a ford and decide to buy a toyota and it's a much better car...why would i go back to a ford? That's moving backwards right?
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It's a leaked rom, which means that someone decided to release this...why are so many people interested in having their phones flashed back to eclair if this leaked rom is so much better? I don't understand...If I own a ford and decide to buy a toyota and it's a much better car...why would i go back to a ford? That's moving backwards right?
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id definatly buy a ford over a toyota right now. toyota is overrated and ford is moving up. really drive one before you speak.
ok froyo has market issues right now do to presumably the android id. it has many new gui features and is much faster and in my experiance better battery life. so if you cant deal with the market errors wait for an official release. that is why many are going back. that and some of us are addicted to flashing our phones every 48 hours.
Hi, I'm going to buy a Samsung Captivate unlock coz I'm using T-Mobile right now. But before buying it I have some questions to make sure that I'm not gonna regret of buying it.
1. What's version of Android it running ? I know it comes out with 2.1 but somebody said that It already updates to Froyo.
2. Will it be upgraded to Froyo or Gingerbread ? and can I get that update officially with my phone unlocked ?
3. I heard that AT&T restricted the Market and some Apps, so what's exactly that restriction about and can I get rid of that ?
4. Is there any custom ROM for this phone and what's the best ?
I really love the design of this phone and the spec is really good too but I also afraid of the AT&T restriction and the phone's OS won't be upgraded. There is noway I buy a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S coz it looks like the iPhone 3GS's clone .
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Hi, I'm going to buy a Samsung Captivate unlock coz I'm using T-Mobile right now. But before buying it I have some questions to make sure that I'm not gonna regret of buying it.
1. What's version of Android it running ? I know it comes out with 2.1 but somebody said that It already updates to Froyo.
2. Will it be upgraded to Froyo or Gingerbread ? and can I get that update officially with my phone unlocked ?
3. I heard that AT&T restricted the Market and some Apps, so what's exactly that restriction about and can I get rid of that ?
4. Is there any custom ROM for this phone and what's the best ?
I really love the design of this phone and the spec is really good too but I also afraid of the AT&T restriction and the phone's OS won't be upgraded. There is noway I buy a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S coz it looks like the iPhone 3GS's clone .
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1. 2.1 comes stock, and that's all that is available officially.
2. Maybe, we hope to get something. If so, you should be able to get it.
3. Yes, there are market restrictions. Go to Captivate, Android Dev sections and there's lots of custom tools for removing restrictions, along with lots of custom ROM's, ie, Phoenix, Cog, Darky, Doc's, etc.
4. See above. I personally like all that I have tried, so I usually flash a few times a week.
You really want a captivate over a nexus s or g2? They're probably better phones.
Yes, like I said I love the design of the Captivate. The Nexus S doesn't use the Gorilla Glass Display that is a negative point make me don't like it. Btw, when I use a new custom ROM, I don't need to unlock my phone again, do I ?
you do realize that when you use a captivate on tmobile, you dont get 3g?
Personally i would jump ALL over the nexus S. Its the captivate on steroids. But DO stay away from the G2....as far as i know its dead past 2.2 because it doesnt have the prerequesites for 2.3 and higher (1ghz processor)
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you do realize that when you use a captivate on tmobile, you dont get 3g?
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Thanks, I know that, currently I don't use 3G. I'm gonna make a new contract plan next month and I'm gonna get the Dell Venue because I love Windows Phone. However, I love to play with Android too that's why I wanna get one Android phone and I see that the Captivate has a really good design.
i have the DX and somewhat knowledgeable about ROMs and perks of each. unfortunately i am not too sure how the D1 and different ROMS would work since the radio is on Metro vs the standard Verizon that this phone is built on.
so my question is, which ROMs will work for her phone. also, will i be able to install any ROM i want without loosing the flash to Metro that i had to pay for and drive an hour out of town to get done?
this is my only concern is that whatever i install will break the flash and i do NOT want to screw this up.
i am seeing a lot of Camera application freezes and becoming a nucence. would it be just as easy to reinstall the Camera apk or is installing a different ROM even an option?
thanks for your support guys and gals. . . cheers
i say still try and root, flash a rom. i just flashed cy 6.1.2 stable. and i am going tomorrow to get metro flashed. but i say flash it cause you can allways re flash the stock .sbf and move on wit no problems.
but also did u flash metro or did you go pay to get it done. cause im tryna figure out how to do it myself. cause those guys had to learn it somewhere you feel me. so if you kno how please shoot me the steps so i can do mine. thanks in advance bro and hope you get it flashed.
i paid 50 bucks to get it done. at that price, why not. plus i have no time with a 5 month old baby. seems to be running ok though.
here is a link someone sent me that might help you out...
just asking, why do you think you can sbf it and re root and install custom ROM and it will still work on Metro? when you flash a phone to work on this provider, dont you change a bunch of things on the phone in order to make it work? i dont know how to do any of that and if i screwed up this phone and the wife was without it, she would flip out. i am sure you can appreciate that.
with that said, i would like to know if reinstalling the camera.apk would fix any problems.
maybe i will install Launcher Pro tonight for her vs ADW and see what happens. this isnt going to change the way the phone works.. only the way it looks.
just called some random person on Craigslist and they said there is only a few ROM's out there that will work with the Metro PCS.
is this true?
i would love to get her off this ROM, she has called me 3 times today complaining about the freezing and rebooting randomly. i would be upset too..
a little help please.
I have done it this time, I tried flashing a custom rom (Cynogen 10.1) and Ended up bricking it, I can get it into CWM but when I try to select anything the screen goes blank with just the image of the rom manager that is in the background and does nothing. It corrupted my SD card so recovery is not an option and Fastboot doesnt really work either. Kies doesnt recognize it neither does ODIN. I have tried just about every way to fix it that I have found and all it does is piss me off. CMD in windows does nothing. Anyone have any suggestions? Or can I just run it over with my car, I am totally sick of nexus, and the sidekick sucks just as much. So what are my options?
How about selecting with a different button? Like trackball instead of power, for example?
Nexus is super-easy to deal with and it's very hard to brick one. However, I suggest you read more to get the idea how to work with it. Fastboot is always an option, if you unlock the phone (and there is no reason to keep it locked).
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How about selecting with a different button? Like trackball instead of power, for example?
Nexus is super-easy to deal with and it's very hard to brick one. However, I suggest you read more to get the idea how to work with it. Fastboot is always an option, if you unlock the phone (and there is no reason to keep it locked).
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Holy mother of god you make me feel like such a tard lol.... I don't really know why I didn't think of the trackball. I actually like the Nexus I was just incredibly pissed at it. But I used to track ball to flash the stock rom onto it, Now time to re-root it this time with the boot loader unlocked, and try once again. So erm it works again..... Thanks for the option that was just about the easiest one there is. Definitively going to read up on this phone. I need to for my own sanity and the knowledge of how to do things the easy way lol.
I seriously spent the last 4 hours googling and reading how to fix it and nothing worked.... Then you provided a fix that I should have caught after reading so many pages on google about it :/
You know Kies and Odin are for Samsung phones, right?
I should just stop before I get to far ahead of myself. But the posts I read about fixing this thing. A lot of them said something about using Odin. I can't figure out how to flash roms or anything on this phone. All I have accomplished is unlocking it and rooting it.
Otherwise I just don't understand hboot, blackrose, the s-off thing and or why or how I have to partition anything to install a damned custom rom. I have never had this much of a problem with any other phone than the nexus. Can't get cwm to stick and am considering buying 4ext since there is no free version I don't really have a choice. There used to be a free version but not anymore apparently.
But I have tried to flash a 250mb hboot. Which didn't work, tried to flash cm10.1 which also didn't work. I can't figure it out. I had a friend with a note that wasn't this much of a hassle either. So I am just about ready to give up. I am waiting for the iPhone to come out on T-Mobile late march and I think I'm just going to ditch android. Mainly cause it now is starting to cost money to customize these Androids cause cwm sucks and everything else you have to pay for it seems. Or stay current with the new nexus 7 or whatever. Then when you have a newer phone there is absolutely no point to rooting or flashing roms on it because the only reason for it in the first place is to increase proformance and or upgrade from the crappiest OS's like gingerbread and froyo to jellybean or ICS.
Its whatever I guess. Just too phone illiterate to be able to cope with new technologies I guess.
Hell even pulling a galaxy noteII out of a hard brick is easier than rooting and customizing these phones.
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@kitsuKun, A lot of members here enjoy tinkering with their phone, including me to get the latest version of the Android OS on an old phone. It's not that we can't afford a new phone. So if you have questions, feel free to ask and don't whine
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I am not trying to whine. All I am saying is I don't get the HTC. Can't figure it out. If I have questions I will ask but right now I dont, I have understood what I have read.
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Okay I know I have a few things working against me....1 I am a chick....no offense to chicks that can develop....you guys rock.....this one however has issues....2 I know more about my old S3 than my new S5....
I have been racking my head and searching the net looking for a proper way to root my At&t Galaxy S5 Active.....I have seen several that say I may need to downgrade however non of the links are working to the firmware download.....also I have seen some that lean toward Safestrap and Towelroot. I had tried towelroot but it says my device is not supported. I do see that my baseband is ending in NG3. I am trying to find a way of course to root but to also customize with possible zips like OG Battery Mod.....ugh and get rid of bloatware.
Anywho....I am a huge Simple stupid kinda person. I guess that comes with being a visual learner....Thanks a ton to anyone who can hold my hand for a bit to help me understand how to root it......
Jinx
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Okay I know I have a few things working against me....1 I am a chick....no offense to chicks that can develop....you guys rock.....this one however has issues....2 I know more about my old S3 than my new S5....
I have been racking my head and searching the net looking for a proper way to root my At&t Galaxy S5 Active.....I have seen several that say I may need to downgrade however non of the links are working to the firmware download.....also I have seen some that lean toward Safestrap and Towelroot. I had tried towelroot but it says my device is not supported. I do see that my baseband is ending in NG3. I am trying to find a way of course to root but to also customize with possible zips like OG Battery Mod.....ugh and get rid of bloatware.
Anywho....I am a huge Simple stupid kinda person. I guess that comes with being a visual learner....Thanks a ton to anyone who can hold my hand for a bit to help me understand how to root it......
Jinx
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You're just fine go to this thread and follow the instructions.
It's actually quite easy just take your time and thoroughly read the instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3025119